They didn't come with the same teachings. Earlier scriptures taught that Paradise will be on earth. Earlier scriptures taught that the soul is mortal. Earlier scriptures taught that we need a mediator before God and man. Earlier scriptures taught that man should marry one wife. Earlier scriptures taught that true worshippers shouldn't participate in war. Mohammed didn't teach none of these.
The trick is : shamshe can interrupt anytime he likes but he gets suddenly sensitive if the other tries to stop him to clarify , because in his assumption he - shamshe- has the “ truth”
Shiffa my brudda!! ain’t gone lie man like shamsi although not very articulate he still buried you in this 🤦🏾♂️ when the dust is settled and ego/pride put to the side you will watch it back & you will see fam TNTS where the rest of this? It got even worse the longer the debate went on 🤷🏾♂️
To be honest if we want to call someone accurate that's when time is called into question if it is an open suggestion I still would not consider it to be a prophecy but some people may of they believe that to be a good enough standard
@@shiffadonx397 Shamsi explained on the prophecies of prophet Muhammad pbuh briefly seeing as he could have given you many more examples but didnt feel your sincerity, the only point you were right on was the part about Egypt to an extent because Musa A.S did grow up in Egypt.
This would of been a finisher: Ask him if he believes in the day of judgment. If yes, remind him that the prophets that passed that message on from Allah never mentioned the exact date (from the Quran OR the old and new testament) yet he accepts that prophecy. Therefore the exact date is not necessary for a prophecy to be valid and not a criteria.
This is the *PROPHECY* From ’Abdullah ibn ‘Amr ibn al-‘Aas, who said, I heard the Prophet of Allaah ﷺ say, *“In the last [part] of my nation there will be men who ride on means that resemble saddles. They will alight at the doors of the mosques. Their women are clothed but naked. On their heads are [what appears to be] like the humps of [lean] camels. Curse them for they are cursed. If there were a nation from the nations to come after you, your women would serve them, just as the women of the nations that were before you served you.”*
muhammad never spoke about Jesus. he used gnostic heresies to depict his isa!!! Jesus teaching was the opposite of muhammads. shamsi muhammads prophecies werent powerful at all according to your way of thinking nostradamus is a prophet too!!! muhammad prophecied about cars thats not a prophecy prophets dont speak about such things but things in the spiritual realm!
From ’Abdullah ibn ‘Amr ibn al-‘Aas, who said, I heard the Prophet of Allaah ﷺ say, *“In the last [part] of my nation there will be men who ride on means that resemble saddles. They will alight at the doors of the mosques. Their women are clothed but naked. On their heads are [what appears to be] like the humps of [lean] camels. Curse them for they are cursed. If there were a nation from the nations to come after you, your women would serve them, just as the women of the nations that were before you served you.”*
@@TheScritzCure Shamsi said it's in Abu dawud and that does not mean nothing to us, now since you jumped in can you provide us with the book name, page number. I just want to read it for myself.
@@Psalm_23_ All Muslims are his nation (Ummah), and he is talking about this time. This is the reference: (أخرجه أحمد وابن حبان في صحيحه والطبراني في الأوسط، انظر: السلسلة الصحيحة؛ برقم: [2683]).
Oh wow the Prophet predicted people will one day travel to the mosque in a box, 600 years after Romans were already riding around in chariots. Wow what a miraculous prophecy.
@@deficrypto1234 I wouldn't call anyone a prophet because there is no such thing! Just a bunch of people making predictions & claiming them to be God given.
@@1986tomdavies I can see where ur coming from. If I am able to accurately predict the future, what word would u use to describe me? Also, how where would u say is the source of the ability?
@@deficrypto1234 you answered your own question with your first comment! People predict things accurately all the time, like the financial crash as you said. There's almost 8 billion people in the world, so whenever something important happens one of us is bound to have predicted it! Now if you were able to make lots of precise predictions that you couldn't possibly have had any foreknowledge of, & you never got anything wrong, then i'd eventually assume you were a prophet. However, I don't believe such a person has ever existed.
Dictionary definition doesn't require specific time or date lol Also his definition of scripture is not from the English dictionary. Scripture is not defined as something new lol definition : body of writings considered sacred or authoritative
Shamsi clili said anggaints prophet mohammad shalalalasalam cause taqiyah all the time 😂... Oh no im wrong..@shamsi gonzales and his prophet mohammad Shalalalasalam clili anggaints prophet google Pbuh who said thats is not true. 😂😂🙈.
hahaha dude that will happen by the permision of Allah. there is no muslim that does not believe that the universe will come to an end. its just matter of time
The Kemet guy is right. He just had a filled day at Shamzy's expense. The "prophecies" of Mohammed do not meet the criteria of prophecy- otherwise any imaginative talkative will be considered a prophet.
Nope, otherwise can you please bring someone who didn't get anything wrong, prophecised about Arabs building tall buildings in the desert, cars taking people from homes to peoples mosques. Lies being spread from across the world east to west from morning to evening. oh right, you can't... All you can do is bring some guy who predicts the weather right 3 days a week and Nostradamus who always made mistakes in *predicting*. Carry on lying to yourself of "any talkative person is able to be a prophet" according to criteria smh
They didn't come with the same teachings. Earlier scriptures taught that Paradise will be on earth. Earlier scriptures taught that the soul is mortal. Earlier scriptures taught that we need a mediator before God and man. Earlier scriptures taught that man should marry one wife. Earlier scriptures taught that true worshippers shouldn't participate in war. Mohammed didn't teach none of these.
This is very clear to understand that Islam is the truth.
The prophecy of the hour - no1 knows the hour except god
The trick is : shamshe can interrupt anytime he likes but he gets suddenly sensitive if the other tries to stop him to clarify , because in his assumption he - shamshe- has the “ truth”
Shiffa my brudda!! ain’t gone lie man like shamsi although not very articulate he still buried you in this 🤦🏾♂️ when the dust is settled and ego/pride put to the side you will watch it back & you will see fam
TNTS where the rest of this? It got even worse the longer the debate went on 🤷🏾♂️
ur a dikhed fam
shiffa is a cune bled
You guys are following Satan clearly good luck and I will pray for you 🙏🏿🙏🏿👌🏿👌🏿😂😂
@@shiffadonx397 you don’t believe in religion so why are you talking about satan🤌
The English definition of prophecy does not specify time as a condition of it's meaning
🤣🤣🤣🤣 makes no difference
@Tariq The guy tried to put a time and date even running for the dictionary but it goes against him 🤦♂️
@@abk6450 no it's just my criteria which he asked for but could not fulfil as he goes by a different standard of criteria
To be honest if we want to call someone accurate that's when time is called into question if it is an open suggestion I still would not consider it to be a prophecy but some people may of they believe that to be a good enough standard
@@shiffadonx397 Shamsi explained on the prophecies of prophet Muhammad pbuh briefly seeing as he could have given you many more examples but didnt feel your sincerity, the only point you were right on was the part about Egypt to an extent because Musa A.S did grow up in Egypt.
This would of been a finisher:
Ask him if he believes in the day of judgment. If yes, remind him that the prophets that passed that message on from Allah never mentioned the exact date (from the Quran OR the old and new testament) yet he accepts that prophecy. Therefore the exact date is not necessary for a prophecy to be valid and not a criteria.
This is the *PROPHECY*
From ’Abdullah ibn ‘Amr ibn al-‘Aas, who said, I heard the Prophet of Allaah ﷺ say, *“In the last [part] of my nation there will be men who ride on means that resemble saddles. They will alight at the doors of the mosques. Their women are clothed but naked. On their heads are [what appears to be] like the humps of [lean] camels. Curse them for they are cursed. If there were a nation from the nations to come after you, your women would serve them, just as the women of the nations that were before you served you.”*
Can you explain this so called prophecy, also post the link( reference) you got it from.
Heard him say 🤣🤣🤣 where's the proof
@@Psalm_23_ there is no link it's an oral history passed down hundreds of years after Muhammad died 🤣🤣😊
@@shiffadonx397 there are very similar hadith to this one. It makes no sense
sunnah.com/riyadussaliheen/18/123
How is this a prophecy? It’s a vague statement that could apply to anybody, you want to see a real prophecy read Isaiah 7:14, Isaiah 53 etc.
You like the sand of your voice
Sand of your voice 🤣🤣🤣🤣
muhammad never spoke about Jesus. he used gnostic heresies to depict his isa!!! Jesus teaching was the opposite of muhammads. shamsi muhammads prophecies werent powerful at all according to your way of thinking nostradamus is a prophet too!!! muhammad prophecied about cars thats not a prophecy prophets dont speak about such things but things in the spiritual realm!
prophecy
/ˈprɒfɪsi/
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noun
a prediction of what will happen in the future.
Any of Shamsi's fan boys provide us with references of these so called prophecies?
From ’Abdullah ibn ‘Amr ibn al-‘Aas, who said, I heard the Prophet of Allaah ﷺ say, *“In the last [part] of my nation there will be men who ride on means that resemble saddles. They will alight at the doors of the mosques. Their women are clothed but naked. On their heads are [what appears to be] like the humps of [lean] camels. Curse them for they are cursed. If there were a nation from the nations to come after you, your women would serve them, just as the women of the nations that were before you served you.”*
@@MrAlio84 explain this prophecy which men of Muhammad nation ride in a box whose women are clothed but look naked. I want references as well please?
@@Psalm_23_ Shamsi mentioned that reference in the video if you were listening. It's okay to be shocked when stumbling upon the truth in a CZcams vid
@@TheScritzCure Shamsi said it's in Abu dawud and that does not mean nothing to us, now since you jumped in can you provide us with the book name, page number. I just want to read it for myself.
@@Psalm_23_
All Muslims are his nation (Ummah), and he is talking about this time.
This is the reference:
(أخرجه أحمد وابن حبان في صحيحه والطبراني في الأوسط، انظر: السلسلة الصحيحة؛ برقم: [2683]).
Oh wow the Prophet predicted people will one day travel to the mosque in a box, 600 years after Romans were already riding around in chariots. Wow what a miraculous prophecy.
Prediction is not prophecy. People predicted the financial crisis of 2008. Will u say they are prophet's?I doubt so.
@@deficrypto1234 I wouldn't call anyone a prophet because there is no such thing! Just a bunch of people making predictions & claiming them to be God given.
@@1986tomdavies I can see where ur coming from. If I am able to accurately predict the future, what word would u use to describe me? Also, how where would u say is the source of the ability?
@@deficrypto1234 you answered your own question with your first comment! People predict things accurately all the time, like the financial crash as you said. There's almost 8 billion people in the world, so whenever something important happens one of us is bound to have predicted it! Now if you were able to make lots of precise predictions that you couldn't possibly have had any foreknowledge of, & you never got anything wrong, then i'd eventually assume you were a prophet. However, I don't believe such a person has ever existed.
@@1986tomdavies Good. Now pls answer my questions?
Dictionary definition doesn't require specific time or date lol
Also his definition of scripture is not from the English dictionary. Scripture is not defined as something new lol definition : body of writings considered sacred or authoritative
Oral tradition is not considered authentic lol 😂🤣😂🤣
Only shamsie is allowed to interupt
Clearly he thinks he is a prophet 😂😂🤣🤣
This man not sincere,he dont want listen shamsi say.
English please proper English 🤣🤣
shamsi always talk crap!
Shamsi clili said anggaints prophet mohammad shalalalasalam cause taqiyah all the time 😂...
Oh no im wrong..@shamsi gonzales and his prophet mohammad Shalalalasalam clili anggaints prophet google Pbuh who said thats is not true. 😂😂🙈.
@@shiffadonx397 what you mean..dont you hear shamsi talk verry clili anggains the guy..clili man..very clili. 😂😂
Shamsi is so petatic...false teacher. 👎
🎲🎲🎲🎲🎲🎲
Muslim arguments are weak today😐
they always were
I predict that the Sun will go super nova & all life on Earth will end. & there is nothing that your Gods can do about it.....& that is a fact.
hahaha dude that will happen by the permision of Allah. there is no muslim that does not believe that the universe will come to an end. its just matter of time
@@ilyasancharad8640 I did not say the universe would come to an end. I said the Sun would as we all know. & therefor the power to the Earth will end.
and i say not only our sun will end but the entire universum will come to an end
Lol
@@ilyasancharad8640 are all Muslims prophets then 🤣🤣🤣
Why does the creator want or desire worship.
Shamsi the runner
Shamsi arguments are all over the place. Take a seat!!
I feel sorry for Shamsi, he's a convert.
He was free from the devils cult now he's a part of it, shame.
care about yourself.
Lol liar. He is not a convert.
The Kemet guy is right. He just had a filled day at Shamzy's expense. The "prophecies" of Mohammed do not meet the criteria of prophecy- otherwise any imaginative talkative will be considered a prophet.
Olisa Daniel he’s a Hebrew Israelite/Christian.
Nope, otherwise can you please bring someone who didn't get anything wrong, prophecised about Arabs building tall buildings in the desert, cars taking people from homes to peoples mosques. Lies being spread from across the world east to west from morning to evening. oh right, you can't... All you can do is bring some guy who predicts the weather right 3 days a week and Nostradamus who always made mistakes in *predicting*. Carry on lying to yourself of "any talkative person is able to be a prophet" according to criteria smh
@@eesafrimpony6432 no Hebrew just Israelite lol
@@IllinNoise86 😂🤣😂 less vanity
Shiffa Don X what’s the difference my brother I haven’t heard you explain that?