that honestly is terrible for him. But i’m gonna keep saying this trauma isn’t an excuse for being a shitty person, there’s no excuse for that. A shitty person isn’t even enough to describe nate
Tbh I think the nightmare he has of his dad screwing him is likely not something he wants or has experienced when he was younger. I feel this is more just a disturbing melting pot of his traumas and bad experiences in one single symbolism. I feel Nate being the one who's being screwed(rather than being the one doing the screwing), his father being the partner, and it being a an incestuous sex act between two men is all just one huge mind screw for him
My husband has nightmares like this he was raped and molested at the Catholic Church and school he went to. He was 12 and he’s been battling PTSD since. And I was by his side even when I was 12.
I didn't understand really when they showed his dad on too of him. If it had happened when he was younger or if it has deeper meaning all i know is he got issues and he needs a therapist.
I Don’t think that actually happended , I the biggest fear of Nate , the reason why he hatea his dad , he dislikes him yo the point that he’s afraid of him
he can’t face himself in the mirror or who he is, maddy is his trauma bonde that’s most meaningful because she accepts him for who he is, but he wants jules and he can’t face that head on, so he chose cassie to play the part of jules.. but cassie was just a reminder of jules i believe which was a reminder of his dads “secret” sexuality, but maybe in his mindset led him back to his dad because even tho he hated him maybe they weren’t so different. (or he was possibly groomed)
Can be, but I never got that impression, it is said multiple time in the show that cal is not a pedophile, I think it's more about Nate not being able to accept his homosexuality and seeing his own father as the example for masculinity and always trying to surpass him
I don’t think Cal molested Nate, but I do feel like something must have happened. Some experience in his childhood that triggered this along with him watching the videos.
In the series it is already explained that Nate found pornography of his father with other trans men and women, so being exposed to that, especially from a family member or father figure, is considered sexual abuse
@@akiractmI would agree, especially since the people he preferred were so young, but idk… That scene where Cal was on top of Nate fighting him and Nate started screaming slamming his head to the floor in what I can only call a raging fit of terror tells me something happened at some point.
@@akiractmreally? as someone who’s experienced familial sexual abuse (actually) that’s insulting. seeing a family member in such a way vs being actually harmed by them in such a way is so f’n different
ppl commenting never watched the show at all... It can be a trauma, bc when he was young he found all the tapes of his dad, fcking different people, men or women.
As messed up as it seems my theory is that Cal's appearance is meant to symbolise something about Nate and the sex itself is more about sexuality rather than sex
he can’t face himself in the mirror or who he is, maddy is his trauma bonde that’s most meaningful because she accepts him for who he is, but he wants jules and he can’t face that head on, so he chose cassie to play the part of jules.. but cassie was just a reminder of jules i believe which was a reminder of his dads “secret” sexuality, but maybe in his mindset led him back to his dad because even tho he hated him maybe they weren’t so different. (or he was possibly groomed)
This scene alone is more scary and disturbing than a lot of horror movies
that honestly is terrible for him. But i’m gonna keep saying this trauma isn’t an excuse for being a shitty person, there’s no excuse for that. A shitty person isn’t even enough to describe nate
Girl it’s a series calm down
They are calm? 💀 they’re just exposing how they feel abt the series
@@jadaaakkthis happens in real life.
You can still have empathy for them because this kind of trauma makes you a shitty person
The best scene in the episode, straight from a horror movie.
Watching all those videos of his dad really screwed him up
this was so weird to me.. i was flabbergasted
Tbh I think the nightmare he has of his dad screwing him is likely not something he wants or has experienced when he was younger. I feel this is more just a disturbing melting pot of his traumas and bad experiences in one single symbolism. I feel Nate being the one who's being screwed(rather than being the one doing the screwing), his father being the partner, and it being a an incestuous sex act between two men is all just one huge mind screw for him
this is actually so fucking sad
This is perhaps the only moment in the series where you feel bad for Nate
My husband has nightmares like this he was raped and molested at the Catholic Church and school he went to. He was 12 and he’s been battling PTSD since. And I was by his side even when I was 12.
i'm sorry about that. i hope he's doing better now! it's such a traumatic thing to go through, it's amazing that he has you to aide him in his battle.
I'm so sorry about this I hope he is in a better place now
wouldn't that be a nightmare- not a dream..
It is so weird seeing McSteamy like this. I can't even imagine the trauma caused to create a dream like this 😕
Why am I just realizing that he’s Mcsteamy
THATS WHAT IM SAYINGGG
I didn't understand really when they showed his dad on too of him. If it had happened when he was younger or if it has deeper meaning all i know is he got issues and he needs a therapist.
His dad is gay asf
I Don’t think that actually happended , I the biggest fear of Nate , the reason why he hatea his dad , he dislikes him yo the point that he’s afraid of him
My theory is that Cal is a representation of a part of Nate's pysche and the sex part is more about Nate's sexuality rather than actual sex
so many levels of wtf right now..
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Nobody:
My face the whole time:😯😐😯😐😯😐😯😐
Same
he can’t face himself in the mirror or who he is, maddy is his trauma bonde that’s most meaningful because she accepts him for who he is, but he wants jules and he can’t face that head on, so he chose cassie to play the part of jules.. but cassie was just a reminder of jules i believe which was a reminder of his dads “secret” sexuality, but maybe in his mindset led him back to his dad because even tho he hated him maybe they weren’t so different. (or he was possibly groomed)
This can be some past trauma
Can be, but I never got that impression, it is said multiple time in the show that cal is not a pedophile, I think it's more about Nate not being able to accept his homosexuality and seeing his own father as the example for masculinity and always trying to surpass him
@@carlosguillen5683 has nate slept with other guys around his age before
@@hirukosharinganuchiha5732 not that we know
I don’t think Cal molested Nate, but I do feel like something must have happened. Some experience in his childhood that triggered this along with him watching the videos.
In the series it is already explained that Nate found pornography of his father with other trans men and women, so being exposed to that, especially from a family member or father figure, is considered sexual abuse
Sorry, "men and trans women"
@@akiractmI would agree, especially since the people he preferred were so young, but idk…
That scene where Cal was on top of Nate fighting him and Nate started screaming slamming his head to the floor in what I can only call a raging fit of terror tells me something happened at some point.
@@akiractmreally? as someone who’s experienced familial sexual abuse (actually) that’s insulting. seeing a family member in such a way vs being actually harmed by them in such a way is so f’n different
@@machine_maggotIt is different. A different form of sexual abuse.
Ok wherever this came from seriously needs to be discussed with someone cuz this was hella disturbing
im flabbergasted
ppl commenting never watched the show at all... It can be a trauma, bc when he was young he found all the tapes of his dad, fcking different people, men or women.
this is probably one of my favorite scenes of s2
what 💀
Poor Nate
Why?!!😭😭😭
I’ve been traumatized
As messed up as it seems my theory is that Cal's appearance is meant to symbolise something about Nate and the sex itself is more about sexuality rather than sex
pure horror
Cassie comforting him😒
sooo sad
Nooooooo
Ew.
Ok this shit is disgusting and disturbing as hell like really? who does that fantasize of their own father f--king his flesh in blood smh.
it's a trauma
its not a fantasy
it’s not a fantasy it’s a nightmare…
he clearly seems distraught while the nightmare is happening. you can tell he doesn't want it even without context.
It's probably more that Cal represents a part of Nate's own pysche and the sex is more to do with sexuality rather than sex
What does maddie have to do with it
ليش ما يعمل شقلت تخلو الوحد ينحمس
Incest?! WTH
weird
😅😅
First!
Цйкйс
WTF
NAH
he can’t face himself in the mirror or who he is, maddy is his trauma bonde that’s most meaningful because she accepts him for who he is, but he wants jules and he can’t face that head on, so he chose cassie to play the part of jules.. but cassie was just a reminder of jules i believe which was a reminder of his dads “secret” sexuality, but maybe in his mindset led him back to his dad because even tho he hated him maybe they weren’t so different. (or he was possibly groomed)