Those are both really neat. With that wrench I was thinking that the Wenger would make a great tool to carry as part of a bicycle kit. They both pack a lot of tools but the wrench and the unique magnifying glass put the Wenger ahead of the Victorinox for me. Fun video!
I bought my Swiss Champ new in 1985 and have pocket carried it almost every day since. It has the half stop on the caplifter, a chisel, pen and pliers. No hook and pin though. It is very well used, the Stainless cross and shield fell off more than 10 years ago and left a little hole and the scales are chipped and cracked but it still does everything it did in the beginning and has saved my day many many times.
The Wenger Champ is a large 85mm eight-layer model that preceded the Tool Chest. It was also sold as the Classic 28, and later as the Evolution 28. This model could be regarded as the Wenger version of the Champion by Victorinox. ✌🏻👱🏻♂️✌🏻
I also have a Champion-C. Major difference with the Champ is the Champ has pliers. I love that leather sheath! Gotta get one for my Champ. Thanks KD, one more week!
I’ve always heard Wenger’s are more robust but Victorinox more elegant. Both are too much pocketful to me. I have always liked the dangly chain on Wengers. I like the tweezer and toothpicks of Victorinox. Wenger has better scissor until the spring goes. The push down flathead on the Wenger is nice. For me the magnifier and the scalers are a wash. The cut in the Wenger scaler is so you can more easily guide down the fishing g line. The longer wood saw definitely goes to Victorinox. I do like the file over the small blade. What the heck! This is ‘Merica! I’ll take both. Don’t want to hurt anyone’s feeling.
I think I like the Wenger, I definitely like the main blade better. The can opener too. But very nice comparison. Thanks for the video. Be blessed my friend.
Good comparison. I have a big collection of both Wenger and Victorinox SAKS, including several Champs/Champions from each make. I like both but will always have a bias for Wenger as it was my first Swiss Army Knife and also I prefer the smaller 85mm size. My original Wenger was a Tool Chest Plus I got at 10 years old, 26 years ago and it still functions perfectly.
I watched this when it 1st came out, but I was able to use both and I like tools from both but I prefer Victorinox's scissors. I always liked how Wenger had a File instead of a small 2nd knife. I am so glad that the Victorinox Sportsman and now the new Companion have small file. I kinda wish the spring of the Wenger could be put on a Victorinox scissor, but at least it's easy to find and replace a Victorinox spring. I carry a Leatherman with a Victorinox so I don't need a plier but I definitely always liked the Wenger plier. I had a Wenger with a plier growing up and I get nostalgia when I see 1 again. Both are nice tools and I definitely like both scissors over Leatherman scissors, but that's why I carry a Victorinox Rambler, a 2 to 4 layer medium Victorinox and a Leatherman Bond, Rev, or Knifeless Rebar. They covers most things that can go wrong in a day. I feel like I am naked if I don't have them all on me.
Choosing between Victorinox and Wenger is mostly subjective. I have always been a Victorinox fan ( the larger 91mm fits me better) That being said there was a lot to admire about Wenger. They were more of a risk taker when it came to innovation, it is sad they are not around to push Victorinox a little to come up with new designs & tools. A couple of points of info on your Wenger knife, the patent stamp on the screwdriver means it has the patented locking screwdriver. When you put pressure on the blade it retracts into the knife a little and locks the blade from closing until the pressure is released. (probably the philips screwdriver also locks). The cutout in the fish scaler is designed to help guide the hook remover to the hook by threading the line through that slot. I have collected several Wenger models just for there unique tools and designs. Interestingly Swiza has some of the former Wenger people, it will be interesting to see what new innovations they come up with.
I question how useful the Wenger wrench tool would be. I think that to loosen or tighten you would need to flip the tool over so that it bites the bolt head in the correct direction, but not have the handle fold up on you as you turn. In one of those positions the body of the knife would prevent the tool from getting anywhere near a flat surface where the bolt might be located. If the head of the bolt is not against a flat surface it might work OK. I might be wrong and would like to see a short video where you try it out.
It's wierd not having a date stamp on something. Every single part we make at work has the year and month at the minimum on it. Some things we even put a dot on the date stamp to tell what shift it was made. That is why we call them date stamps.
I have the Wenger Champ, it was given to me new in the 1980s, but purchased in The UAE, where you can buy almost anything. Here is an interesting observation, I have tried to replace the tweezers & toothpick as both were lost. Ordering the easily available replacements online, results in both sitting proud of the red plastic faceplate. I can only think that when Wenger was bought out, spares for them were discontinued? Look after your tweezers brothers!
In my opinion Wenger's wider accessories are more pleasing to the eye. The Wenger can opener is fantastic, it doesn't leave any sharp burrs on the can. The scissors and metal backed loupe look better to me on the Wenger. I'm sorry Wenger no longer makes pocketknives.
Both knives ive had still have the Victorinox Champion but got shot of the Wenger Champ . The thing I hated was the poor magnifier lense? And to be honest the wrench was of little use too ! It just doesn't get in there to work ! But i am now thinking I should have kept it after watching your video .
For me, Victorinox knifes are best. I prefer the Huntsman to go to the forest. It's not too big, but you have a wood saw in it (very sharp). And with the hook you can carry at least 50 kg (about 100 pounds). It will not break.. Swiss quality since about 1898..I still have my Soldiers knife (Aluminium) from 1985. It still works. And we used it daily in Military service.. Anyway, thank you for your well made video. If somebody comes to visit Switzerland, don't forget to buy one or several. Greetings from Switzerland.
Wenger scissors , that little wrench and the Wenger magnifying glass .Just about pips Victorianox to the post. The current evo range of vic knives have many of the old Wenger features
I’m a big fan of the 85mm Wenger knives. I feel the Wenger tools are better with one exception, the Reamer. The addition of a hole in the Victorinox Reamer turns it into a sewing awl. Wenger missed out here.
Being a Swiss Army guy, I'd have to say in this head to head, I'd have to go with Victorinox.. The magnifying glass at this time is I believe is 8 power, while the Wenger is notorious for falling out. Both at this time had solid cellidor scales, but Victorinox takes it due to it having the secondary pen blade, as well as superior toothpick and tweezers. Plus the corkscrew is flouted, which was a change I would have preferred that Victorinox would have kept..
@@henryofskalitz2228 I'll always take a Wenger. The real innovator. That is why they now put their stamp on the better knives. Rangers and Evos are still being made.
The Victorinox is smaller so it would fit in a pocket better but they would both make a good pocket knife (0-1) and the Wenger has a metal screwdriver magnify glass but the Victorinox only has a plastic one (1-1) the Wenger and the Victorinox has a scaler but the Victorinox is longer (1-2) both of them have a saw (2-3) both have a Phillips screwdriver (3-4) both have scissors (4-5) Wenger has a nail file (5-5) Wenger knife is wider the Victorinox is longer (6-6) Wenger wrench is good for Vehicle repairs Victorinox doesn’t have one (7-6) Wenger has more tools (8-6) Wenger wins
@@KnifeDetector no it does not. as far as i know at the beginning they were both official suppliers to the swiss army, maybe initially it was just one company which then split. Recently Wenger has left the exclusive production of knives to Victorinox and now produces only camping articles or similar.
You know what? I think when these two knives were new in 1980s they were so close to being equal it didn’t matter much which one you picked. Victorinox still makes Wenger models with most of the same tools in their Evolution models. I would say you have two tools that are equal. But the Champ is just a cooler name. 🔎🔪🔍😂
@@KnifeDetector Well; you got me there; I was thinking of the Victorinox Swiss Army Evolution Knife. Back then Wenger wasn’t part of Victorinox. How old were you in 1980? I just got of the Marines in 1978 after a four year enlistment. What were you doing in your high chair eating Cheerios? Were you even on planet then? Old People still make mistakes. 😂😅🤣
I've had Victorinox knives since 1995 and they've never failed me. Wenger knives haven't failed me either, but I have a personal preference for Victorinox. I'm not a big fan of Wenger's serrated scissors (huge downer), the lack of an edge on its awl, and that Wenger wrench I've never used either. The Victorinox pliers have been more useful to me as well (more precise), and IMO Victorinox's tweezers and toothpick are better too (because they're longer). I've found the ballpoint pen really useful over the years too (Wenger knives don't have a pen), so Victorinox wins by a wide margin in my opinion. On a 0-10 scale, I'd rate Victorinox a 10 and Wenger an 8.
Those are both really neat. With that wrench I was thinking that the Wenger would make a great tool to carry as part of a bicycle kit. They both pack a lot of tools but the wrench and the unique magnifying glass put the Wenger ahead of the Victorinox for me. Fun video!
That is a really cool 🔧:) Thanks partner!!
Thanks for the comparison. I don't know a whole lot about Wenger so I appreciate the info.
I was pretty sure I'd prefer the Victorinox but that Wenger impressed me more. Thanks for the video.
Thanks partner !!
Great looking knives! I like both for deferent reasons! Thanks 🙂🙏
Yup, me too, had to have them :)
A very cool comparison. I had a very similar Swiss champ when I was a kid. Great video 👍
Thanks buddy!
Those are both amazing.
I’m a Victorinox fan, but deciding between these two would be hard. They are both really cool! Thanks, buddy.
I know amigo, that’s why I got both :)
Very neat, big fan of the Victorinox brand! Interesting differences 👍
I bought my Swiss Champ new in 1985 and have pocket carried it almost every day since. It has the half stop on the caplifter, a chisel, pen and pliers. No hook and pin though. It is very well used, the Stainless cross and shield fell off more than 10 years ago and left a little hole and the scales are chipped and cracked but it still does everything it did in the beginning and has saved my day many many times.
They are built to last!!
that's good to know.
The Wenger Champ is a large 85mm eight-layer model that preceded the Tool Chest.
It was also sold as the Classic 28, and later as the Evolution 28.
This model could be regarded as the Wenger version of the Champion by Victorinox.
✌🏻👱🏻♂️✌🏻
I also have a Champion-C. Major difference with the Champ is the Champ has pliers.
I love that leather sheath! Gotta get one for my Champ. Thanks KD, one more week!
I’ve always heard Wenger’s are more robust but Victorinox more elegant.
Both are too much pocketful to me. I have always liked the dangly chain on Wengers. I like the tweezer and toothpicks of Victorinox. Wenger has better scissor until the spring goes.
The push down flathead on the Wenger is nice.
For me the magnifier and the scalers are a wash. The cut in the Wenger scaler is so you can more easily guide down the fishing g line.
The longer wood saw definitely goes to Victorinox.
I do like the file over the small blade.
What the heck! This is ‘Merica! I’ll take both. Don’t want to hurt anyone’s feeling.
Me too buddy:) I think I’ll keep both :) I like the subtle differences, and I also like the file on the Wenger quite a bit.
I think I like the Wenger, I definitely like the main blade better. The can opener too. But very nice comparison. Thanks for the video. Be blessed my friend.
Thanks buddy, blessings to you!
cool😊
Good comparison. I have a big collection of both Wenger and Victorinox SAKS, including several Champs/Champions from each make. I like both but will always have a bias for Wenger as it was my first Swiss Army Knife and also I prefer the smaller 85mm size. My original Wenger was a Tool Chest Plus I got at 10 years old, 26 years ago and it still functions perfectly.
Thanks partner!! I have to find a tool chest, I’ve been hunting for one.
I picked up both because I couldn’t decide.
I love them both I wouldn’t be without either of them.
Wenger always. The innovator. No springs to get lost because folding knives are springs. If you want larger, Mountaineer.
I’m need to go find that one :)
@@KnifeDetector Ebay. Been carrying a Mountaineer for 30 years or more.
I watched this when it 1st came out, but I was able to use both and I like tools from both but I prefer Victorinox's scissors. I always liked how Wenger had a File instead of a small 2nd knife. I am so glad that the Victorinox Sportsman and now the new Companion have small file. I kinda wish the spring of the Wenger could be put on a Victorinox scissor, but at least it's easy to find and replace a Victorinox spring. I carry a Leatherman with a Victorinox so I don't need a plier but I definitely always liked the Wenger plier. I had a Wenger with a plier growing up and I get nostalgia when I see 1 again. Both are nice tools and I definitely like both scissors over Leatherman scissors, but that's why I carry a Victorinox Rambler, a 2 to 4 layer medium Victorinox and a Leatherman Bond, Rev, or Knifeless Rebar. They covers most things that can go wrong in a day. I feel like I am naked if I don't have them all on me.
I live Leathermans and Victorinox.
@KnifeDetector yeah, I feel naked without at least 1 of them on me. I prefer to have both though.
Have a couple of champ SAK ,GREAT knife its a champion of the SAK range.
I have had the Wenger since the early 90's and it is an awesome multitool. But there is nothing wrong with the Victorinox. I would call it a draw.
Choosing between Victorinox and Wenger is mostly subjective.
I have always been a Victorinox fan ( the larger 91mm fits me better)
That being said there was a lot to admire about Wenger. They were more
of a risk taker when it came to innovation, it is sad they are not around to
push Victorinox a little to come up with new designs & tools. A couple of
points of info on your Wenger knife, the patent stamp on the screwdriver
means it has the patented locking screwdriver. When you put pressure on
the blade it retracts into the knife a little and locks the blade from closing
until the pressure is released. (probably the philips screwdriver also locks).
The cutout in the fish scaler is designed to help guide the hook remover
to the hook by threading the line through that slot. I have collected several
Wenger models just for there unique tools and designs. Interestingly Swiza
has some of the former Wenger people, it will be interesting to see what
new innovations they come up with.
Wow partner!!! Amazing information👍 Thank you!!
I question how useful the Wenger wrench tool would be. I think that to loosen or tighten you would need to flip the tool over so that it bites the bolt head in the correct direction, but not have the handle fold up on you as you turn. In one of those positions the body of the knife would prevent the tool from getting anywhere near a flat surface where the bolt might be located. If the head of the bolt is not against a flat surface it might work OK. I might be wrong and would like to see a short video where you try it out.
Very good point partner!! I can see where the wider side will be a problem in certain cases.
It's wierd not having a date stamp on something. Every single part we make at work has the year and month at the minimum on it. Some things we even put a dot on the date stamp to tell what shift it was made.
That is why we call them date stamps.
I have the Wenger Champ, it was given to me new in the 1980s, but purchased in The UAE, where you can buy almost anything. Here is an interesting observation, I have tried to replace the tweezers & toothpick as both were lost. Ordering the easily available replacements online, results in both sitting proud of the red plastic faceplate. I can only think that when Wenger was bought out, spares for them were discontinued? Look after your tweezers brothers!
So true, I have to buy used models, just to canablize the tweezers and toothpicks.
In my opinion Wenger's wider accessories are more pleasing to the eye. The Wenger can opener is fantastic, it doesn't leave any sharp burrs on the can. The scissors and metal backed loupe look better to me on the Wenger. I'm sorry Wenger no longer makes pocketknives.
Gods points partner!!! Yes, Wenger had it right👍
If the awl does not have a bevel, then what year is my champion C?
Both knives ive had still have the Victorinox Champion but got shot of the Wenger Champ . The thing I hated was the poor magnifier lense? And to be honest the wrench was of little use too ! It just doesn't get in there to work !
But i am now thinking I should have kept it after watching your video .
I like the uniqueness of the tools, but yeah, the magnifying glass is too small.
There is another flat blade screwdriver on the back of the Victorinox.
For me, Victorinox knifes are best. I prefer the Huntsman to go to the forest. It's not too big, but you have a wood saw in it (very sharp). And with the hook you can carry at least 50 kg (about 100 pounds). It will not break.. Swiss quality since about 1898..I still have my Soldiers knife (Aluminium) from 1985. It still works. And we used it daily in Military service..
Anyway, thank you for your well made video. If somebody comes to visit Switzerland, don't forget to buy one or several. Greetings from Switzerland.
Greetings Daniel!!! Thank you for watching my video!!
The Victorinox can opener works much more smoothly than Wenger's.
The victorinox plastic magnifying glass puts me off 👍🏻
Wenger scissors , that little wrench and the Wenger magnifying glass .Just about pips Victorianox to the post. The current evo range of vic knives have many of the old Wenger features
Yup, they are so much fun to collect.
Love the eagle claw can opener style imo works way better than the victorinox version
Me too!!
I’m a big fan of the 85mm Wenger knives. I feel the Wenger tools are better with one exception, the Reamer. The addition of a hole in the Victorinox Reamer turns it into a sewing awl. Wenger missed out here.
Totally agree
Being a Swiss Army guy, I'd have to say in this head to head, I'd have to go with Victorinox.. The magnifying glass at this time is I believe is 8 power, while the Wenger is notorious for falling out. Both at this time had solid cellidor scales, but Victorinox takes it due to it having the secondary pen blade, as well as superior toothpick and tweezers. Plus the corkscrew is flouted, which was a change I would have preferred that Victorinox would have kept..
You make a very strong case partner!! Thanks!!
Never had that problem with my wenger champ but the victorinox champ lens for the magnifying glass always kept falling out
@@henryofskalitz2228 I'll always take a Wenger. The real innovator. That is why they now put their stamp on the better knives. Rangers and Evos are still being made.
If you use the screwdriver on the wenger the glass falls out.
Thanks partner!! That’s good to know!
No wonder vicky wins. Should have bought stock in wenger back then.
"Right"
The Victorinox is smaller so it would fit in a pocket better but they would both make a good pocket knife (0-1) and the Wenger has a metal screwdriver magnify glass but the Victorinox only has a plastic one (1-1) the Wenger and the Victorinox has a scaler but the Victorinox is longer (1-2) both of them have a saw (2-3) both have a Phillips screwdriver (3-4) both have scissors (4-5) Wenger has a nail file (5-5) Wenger knife is wider the Victorinox is longer (6-6) Wenger wrench is good for
Vehicle repairs Victorinox doesn’t have one (7-6) Wenger has more tools (8-6) Wenger wins
That is a very sound mental process you have amigo, 😀 You built a solid case, I must agree :)
What model of wenger is that? Actually model name
I think it’s also called the Champ
@@KnifeDetector okay I want to try and snag one from someone. Might be hard to find these days
You missed a tool on the back of the Victorinox.
Yes I did. Sorry, got excited 😆
Why are there 2 companys for roughly the same item? One must have copied the other.
Yes, they eventually merged
@@KnifeDetector ahh ok. Makes sense Thanks.
@@KnifeDetector no it does not. as far as i know at the beginning they were both official suppliers to the swiss army, maybe initially it was just one company which then split. Recently Wenger has left the exclusive production of knives to Victorinox and now produces only camping articles or similar.
Wenger mejor ! Saludos desde Argentina.
Saludos!!
You know what? I think when these two knives were new in 1980s they were so close to being equal it didn’t matter much which one you picked. Victorinox still makes Wenger models with most of the same tools in their Evolution models. I would say you have two tools that are equal. But the Champ is just a cooler name. 🔎🔪🔍😂
Well then they’re both cool because they both have “champ” in the name :)
@@KnifeDetector Well; you got me there; I was thinking of the Victorinox Swiss Army Evolution Knife. Back then Wenger wasn’t part of Victorinox. How old were you in 1980? I just got of the Marines in 1978 after a four year enlistment. What were you doing in your high chair eating Cheerios? Were you even on planet then? Old People still make mistakes. 😂😅🤣
What? A multi-blade video withour bloodshed?
I got lucky :)
Senza ombra di dubbio meglio il wenger❤
I've had Victorinox knives since 1995 and they've never failed me. Wenger knives haven't failed me either, but I have a personal preference for Victorinox. I'm not a big fan of Wenger's serrated scissors (huge downer), the lack of an edge on its awl, and that Wenger wrench I've never used either. The Victorinox pliers have been more useful to me as well (more precise), and IMO Victorinox's tweezers and toothpick are better too (because they're longer). I've found the ballpoint pen really useful over the years too (Wenger knives don't have a pen), so Victorinox wins by a wide margin in my opinion. On a 0-10 scale, I'd rate Victorinox a 10 and Wenger an 8.
You have laid out a very good case sir!!