Laserdisc vs VHS quality
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I have a laserdisc collection. Almost 275 laserdiscs
lol i'm at 57 right now. Feeling like i have pretty much everything i always wanted, except for the CBS Fox Star Wars Laserdiscs and maybe Episode V and VI of the Definitive Edition too because of the Leonard Maltin Interviews with George Lucas.
Early LDs were pan & scan too, until Spielberg released The Color Purple on LD in 1986 in approximately a 1.66:1 letterbox, then E.T. on LD in 1987 in approximately a 1.78:1 letterbox.
I've got about 300 laserdiscs. I'm watching a Star Trek TNG episode on it right now in fact. A well-made disc wasn't far off from a DVD. There's just something really cool about this format.
Not all LDs used 425 though. Probably just later releases. Earlier releases were said to be 330 lines, same as broadcast tv.
VHS is an analog video format based on the 525/59.94/2:1 signal standard and utilizes Y/C encoding (contrary to popular belief, VHS and all the other analog videocassette formats do not utilize true 'direct composite' encoding for a variety of reasons). In digital signal and spatial and temporal resolution terms, it's closer to 245x486/59.94i for the luminance channel and 43x486/59.94i for both of the combined chroma channels.
I have a couple of players and about 40 discs. It really was the pinnacle of video quality for the home. It actually doesn't look bad on good TVs made in the last few years. They have great comb filters, just make sure you connect the LD player via composite. If you use S-video, you're getting the output from the player's far inferior comb filter. I still watch LDs fairly regularly. I have a lot of good concerts on LD that didn't make to any other format but VHS. And VHS sucks, so LaserDisc it is!
Laserdisc and TED we're awesome for it's days. With no having to fast forward waiting to get right to the fbi warning and movie, and no waiting for the video to rewind
Pioneer innovated the Laserdisc format, moved from gas laser to solid state (infrared) in 1983, added digital sound in 1984, which was uncompressed and in the same format as CD audio, this was 2 separate channels, that usually included Dolby surround encoding. (You can find many discs made in the ‘80s (and later) with digital sound.) Of course, this was the highest quality audio you could get, better than VHS Hi-Fi, though VHS Hi-Fi was a bit better than the analog tracks on a LD. ...AC-3 (Dolby Digital) & DTS compressed 5.1 (sometimes 6.1) channels came later ('90s).
The Star Wars Trilogy Special Edition was available in a widescreen VHS set. The tapes are silver instead of gold. You could use that to do an otherwise identical comparison with your 1997 Star Wars laserdisc set.
The original cuts of Star Wars were also available on widescreen VHS, I had SW and ROTJ widescreen.
Even in widescreen there are various aspect ratios to consider, I'd be interested to learn what the SE VHS set's aspect ratio actually ended up being, compared to the Japanese letterbox trilogy release on LD.
My family only had the Pan & Scan VHS tapes of the Star Wars movies :( No matter if CBS Video or the 1995 THX remastering. I think the 1997 "Special Edition" was the first time i could see these movies in the original widescreen format. I don't remember it ever having a Pan Scan release too. However i also have a VHS of "Episode 1" and it's Pan & Scan. lol literally useless.
I very much like VHS better I grew up watching these VHS on my vcr at my grandmas house
Cool video! Some later players have a digital image buffer which allows you to freeze-frame CLV discs too. Albeit not a perfect frame like a CAV disc offers.
Most 80s laserdiscs used vhs negatives only with higher resolution. Big increase in audio quality though and the the big covers are a huge draw for film buffs.
What VHS and Laserdisc had in common was both stored analog video as a composite (or FBAS) signal. Also Laserdisc came with Analog audio too. Which either contained the same audio like the digital PCM track or one Mono Channel with the combined mix while the left analog channel contained the modulated signal for the 5.1 AC3 sound that went to the Demodulator which then gave the demodulated 5.1 signal to the AV receiver. Or one analog track was used for Audiocommentaries and the other one for the soundtrack. I think you could compare S-VHS to Laserdisc, quality wise. Even thou that comparison is kinda unfair since S-VHS doesn't use a combined signal like composite, in order to get a better picture and it also had a higher resolution than regular VHS as well. But there never really was a home video market for pre-recorded S-VHS movies.
In the digital age there really is not a very huge visual / definition difference between VHS and Laserdisc, if you watch it on a digital screen. Because both VHS and Laserdisc were made for interlaced screens like CRTs. And interlaced material is a problem for modern digital Screens who all show progressive pictures. If digitized there really is not that much of a huge difference between SP VHS or Laserdisc. It also matters a lot how bad the VHS is worn off or how bad the Laserdisc is affected of laser rot. I should do a comparison sometimes between my german Indiana Jones Trilogy sets. Have the late 90s release of them on VHS and Laserdisc (the THX remastered versions) and this should be a good comparison because both the VHS Box set and the Laserdiscs are all Letterbox.
VHS actually stored the signal separately as luma and chroma. Very few VCRs had S-Video though.
@@pungisotu Yeah but i meant regular VHS. Because SuperVHS was really just a sidenote. Almost nobody had it. Some LD player also had SCART and S-Video output. Even thou that really didn't make all that much sense as it just passed through the composite signal. However the signal processing and path was also different with various LD players. Some looked sharper, some looked muddier and some also had digital image processing filters that could be turned on or off. One of my Later VHS decks from LG had something similar. It was a sharpening feature with 3 steps.
@@KRAFTWERK2K6 regular VHS was also encoded in Y/C.
@@pungisotu are you able to provide a source for that? To my knowledge, only S-VHS could do luma and chroma separately, while ordinary VHS would only do composite video.
@@KRAFTWERK2K6 The S-video on an LD player is a sort of a faux S-video signal, since LaserDiscs were encoded as composite video.
If you owned a TV, which wasn't able to filter out composite artifacts properly, chances were that the player would be able to do a better job.
Until recently I still had a high end Panasonic 28" CRT from the mid-90s, which had excellent circuitry to proces artififacts inherent in a composite video signal. Even if I connected my LD player to the TV using the S-video output, the TV did a better job at suppressing those artifacts than the player's internal filters through the S-video output.
Some players had digital frame buffers which would allow perfect still frames on CLV discs. My Pioneer V9000 has the largest frame buffer in any player, and it has the fastest seek time as well. 0.5 of a second on CAV discs. Since its a high-end Industrial model it can be computer controlled and will also play LD-ROM discs, used in arcade games like Dragon's Lair.
TED format was awesome from 1980-2000 and laserdisc was awesome from 1983-1989
How do you have a CZcams Silver Play button with only 1.2k subs?
I still have my 2 sided LaserDisc player from the early 90s. I only have a handful of movies, though. There was a video rental store by my house that rented LDs that I'd frequent.
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Laserdisc is like a huge dvd disc
So, VCD based their format from the Laserdisc... Movies on VCDs usually comes in 2-3 discs. So you need to change the disc halfway through the movie.
most of the earlier laserdisc were barely better than vhs i think the jump from laser disc to dvd was bigger than VHS to laserdisc
Who else came here from regular show?
No laserdisc just dvd VHS blu ray and 4k and 3d and CD rom
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