lebrons game 7 2006 at the pistons entire 2007 finals and game 1 2008 at boston plus game 5 2010 east semis at home vs boston are low key some stinkers too...people tend to forget those moment for him...1 game happens like game 4 2011 fine it can occur to anyone one bad game a series thats normal but his first 2 finals outside of game 1 2011, lebron was flat out bad like even in his other win he was terrible carried by bosh and wade....his first 6 road finals games he was 1-5 and in that one win he had 17 and 3 rebs 4 turnovers 3 fouls and wade had 29...its pretty bad...the nerves got to him..
lebron fans need to stop making excuses and just call him out for choking against a ancient kidd older dirk old terry old marion a semi washed chandler who found his stride again after that year when people thought he had become a bench player so he was not yet at his peak an ancient peja a old haywood a old cardinal an older deshawn a young mahinmi experience wise and a youngish brewer....barea was the the only player playing at their peak that series and he came into his own that playoffs clearly ...my dude lebron had 2 points in game 2 in the 4th they lost by 2 he had 2 points in game 4 in the 4th they lost by 3 he had 2 points in the 4th in game 5 they were up in the 4th early...he just time and time again choked...miami should of won that series 5-0...they got outplayed in the 2nd half of game 6 I won't defend that but that series should of been over thats the point...the mavs stringed together one amazing half where shots fell..good job but before the last 5 minutes of game 5 miami had outplayed them for 5 games...should of swept them...mavs literally won this series with a 7-8 minute barrage late in game 2 a lebron choke job in game 4 a solid 5 minute stretch in game 5 late and one amazing half in game 6...they clearly were not the better team
mike bibby cost miami this series by being a flat out zero in 5 of the games and all 4 loses...he was awful...and they didn't trust house enough imo who could of made some shots over that zone they didn't use jones much they were scarred to use any bigs besides joel and haslem and they waited too long to trust chalmers and they threw juwan out there
lebron chose to go to miami and form a big three and he did not keep up his end of the deal in his prime in close games... this isn't old kg scoring 17 a night and being a defensive monster its lebron shitting the bed...he still had joel rio haslem miller juwan jones house pittman bibby..stop it...bibby was the only guy who played in this finals without a ring...miami had enough..the next year sure they added cole turiaf harris curry and battier but they lost bibby big z magloire dampier and house so it wasn't like they added a whole bunch..they basically lost the same amount they gained but battier was better than bibby so it worked out in 2012 in the finals where miami was basically 8 deep only and still won one night the 8th man being jones then joel then cole then turiaf ..only 7 guys showed up for miami in the 2012 finals and really 6 guys pre game 5 where miller exploded...and the 6th guy was more of a combo of haslem and miller for 4 games...it was basically miami's main 5 vs the thunder main 5 and miami won...nether team had a 9th man they trusted really...it was a 8 vs 8 battle pretty much with mia's 8th man revolving per game
The 2012 year was not remotely the same Dallas team. Peja was gone, Butler, Stevenson. They let everyone go to go after Dwight Howard and Deron Williams
Peja, Kidd, Marion, Stevenson and Barrea gave performances of their lives throughout that playoff run. Dirk and Terry where legendarily clutch in the finals.
um don't forget tyson barea and brewer too...in that playoff run they had 12 guys 5 of the best 10-11 were gone...cardinal and ian were important for like 1 game each in the playoffs...brewer was more necessary same for peja and barea and butler did carry them in the regular season so stiffs like deshawn kidd marion haywood barea and terry had legs still come june...
So no one... no one in the comments is going to mention what the 2011 mavs did to the western conference in the playoffs? Swept a PRIME Kobe right after he won a ring. Beat OKC, and the Blazers who had a well balanced roster Yes,Lebron choked tremendously.. but NO ONE predicted the mavs were going to run though the western conference playoffs like that.
These are facts that biased haters don't like though, Lebron absolutely and ironically choked/failed but you can't hate more if reality says that Wade lead-Lebron and the Heat (those no-space Heatles) took on the greatest Mavs team of all-time (and with Ben Wallace disguised as Tyson Chandler on top of The Jet Terry exploding back - RIP Terry though two years later by Lebron killing him, that was a shame - , and that terrorized the West by taking out those Brandon Roy-Aldridge Blazers, sweeping defending champion Kobe and his dynasty Lakers coached by Phil Jackson with then blowing out in 5 those KD-Westbrook-Harden-Ibaka Thunder and so on) and lost.
Kobe averaged 23-3-3 Lebron averaged 18-7-7 on better efficiency. It’s an underperformance but very over exaggerated. Lebron was still the 3rd best player in the series.
But you will never talk about how the Dallas Mavs sweeped Kobe and Pau right? Lebron doesn’t bring his best this one time in the finals and y’all shit on him for it
Joe Kama Yes and No, Jordan almost had a 2011 in the 1996 finals where the Sonics were really giving it to them and also count the Bad Boys Pistons but LeBron was worst in my book
Im in transit, or I would show how utterly Dallas outplayed Miami in the last three minutes of five of the six games. In the other 270 minutes of the series Miami was a little better, but Dallas totally owned the final 18 minutes. I doubt any other NBA Finals went like that.
Allow me: G1 - First 45:00 MIA 82, DAL 73 (MIA +9); Last 3:00 DAL 11, MIA 10 (DAL +1) G2 - First 45:00 MIA 90, DAL 86 (MIA +4); Last 3:00 DAL 9, MIA 3 (DAL +6) G3 - First 45:00 MIA 84, DAL 82 (MIA +2); Last 3:00 DAL 4, MIA 4 (Even) G4 - First 45:00 DAL 80, MIA 78 (DAL +2); Last 3:00 DAL 6, MIA 5 (DAL +1) G5 - First 45:00 DAL 100, MIA 100 (Even); Last 3:00 DAL 12, MIA 3 (DAL +9) G6 - First 45:00 DAL 97, MIA 89 (DAL +8); Last 3:00 DAL 8, MIA 6 (DAL +2) In summary: In the first 45 minutes of each game (270 total minutes), Miami outscored Dallas by a combined 5 points. In the last 3 minutes of each game (18 total minutes), Dallas outscored Miami by a combined 19 points. For perspective, if Dallas played a full game against Miami at that "final 3:00" pace, they would have won by 50. And if Miami had played a full game against Dallas at that "first 45:00" pace, it would have gone into OT unless there's a way to score 0.88 points in a single game. Granted, two of those games make up the vast majority of Dallas' margin, but I'd bet the house that, given no other information, one team would win five of the six closing stretches, and the other team would win none. At a glance, that seems rather improbable, mathematically speaking. I remember reading something about this years ago, but I wanna say that guy isolated it to the last FIVE minutes, not three. Time for another post.
G1 - First 43:00 MIA 75, DAL 69 (MIA +6); Last 5:00 MIA 17, DAL 15 (MIA +2) G2 - First 43:00 MIA 88, DAL 79 (MIA +9); Last 5:00 DAL 16, MIA 5 (DAL +11) G3 - First 43:00 MIA 81, DAL 76 (MIA +5); Last 5:00 DAL 10, MIA 7 (DAL +3) G4 - First 43:00 DAL 79, MIA 78 (DAL +1); Last 5:00 DAL 7, MIA 5 (DAL +2) G5 - First 43:00 MIA 96, DAL 95 (MIA +1); Last 5:00 DAL 17, MIA 7 (DAL +10) G6 - First 43:00 DAL 95, MIA 87 (DAL +8); Last 5:00 DAL 10, MIA 8 (DAL +2) In summary: In the first 43 minutes of each game (258 total minutes), Miami outscored Dallas by a combined 12 points. In the last 5 minutes of each game (30 total minutes), Dallas outscored Miami by a combined 26 points. Not surprisingly, this doesn't change the picture too much. Let's treat these two situations as one game again: If Dallas played a full game against Miami at that "final 5:00" pace, they would have won by 41. And if Miami had played a full game against Dallas at that "first 43:00" pace, they would have by 2 points.
Those Mavs and their coach Carlisle defense and schemes with Cuban were really top tier and stacked (on top of already Chandler too), greatly deserved 2011 West title and Finals title, and status as greatest Mavs team of all-time.
As a Bron fan this series hurts to talk about . My guy just didn’t show up for some reason. I still have no words, I’m just happy he turned it around the next season and finally got over the hump, but no excuses for my favorite player. Definitely was a choke job
Omar Hernandez Not as dominating as those Mavs, that were literally terrorizing the West, Kobe, KD and were the best Mavs team of all-time already on the spot for that, even before the Finals. Game 3 btw*
Today i got a video from you which was 4 or 5years ago man you talked about math homework and stuff and you sounded much happier :D. I like how you talk in your vids this rambly conversation thing. Just surprised me ^^.
The better team won the final. Did the Heat have better individual talent? Most definitely. But the Mavs built a roster that had great depth and synergy to get the most of their players' strengths and to cover for their weaknesses. Sure Dallas got beat heavily in 2012's opening game. Don't forget, Cuban didn't resign a good chunk of the team. Losing Chandler had a huge impact on the Mavs defense the coming years and Chandler still had a few prime years left in him. Don't forget: he did win DPOY with the NY Knicks in 2012. I doubt they would've been able to make a repeat to the finals, even with bringing back the whole team. But just look at the Raptors without Kawhi. Toronto isn't the same team, of course, but they're still giving the Eastern Conference a run for their money. I'm positive Dallas would've remained competitive for at least a season or two with the majority of their 2011 team.
This was the one Finals loss that can legitimately be held against LeBron. In the two losses to the Spurs and three losses to the Warriors, LeBron did everything he individually possibly could, but his teammates were completely outmatched by their opponents in those five Finals.
Oh absolutely, that goes without saying and it doesn't even fill the description that would hold the achievements accomplished there and in those playoffs, 2016 on top of 2012 finalized his all-time 1-2/top 3 status plus the fixing of this. Ironically, this complete choke and failure happened when he wasn't the biggest underdog and winning/being overwhelmed by either superteams or all-time teams either in the Playoffs or in the Finals, when he had actual teammates (aside the no spacing and total bricking, and the Heatles) and finally when he wasn't the leader and first option of the team lol, he definitely made himself a favour returning in the dire and clutch/extreme odds and situations of before after 2011, luxury evidently wasn't for him (of course elite competition, everyone wanting him to fail, the greatest Mavs team of all-time terrorizing and annihilating the West, Kobe, KD and everyone and the most scrutiny and hate of all-time didn't help, but still).
It just simply means be wasn't, is not, and will not be the GOAT, if when he loses it is "his teammates not stepping up". Being able to team-carry is the minimum requirement to be considered as the GOAT.
LeBron's 2011 Playoff run was insane up until the Finals G4. Including a killer series closing sequence vs the Celtics AND a killer series closer vs the Bulls. He was indees phenomenal defensively though, even in the Finals... Maybe the best wing defensive performance I've seen...
I wouldn't say that, probably even, or, if considering the off-court damage, hate, cheer to fail etc on one man that Lebron recevied, Heatles problem, no spacing and bricking teammates, no more total underdog but also no leading and no first option Lebron etc, slightly in favour for the greatest Mavs team of all-time and their better coach, but I would say still in favour for the Heat/Lebron/Wade leading.
LeBron wasn't passive in this series, it was Jason Kidd who got in his head. Not many people understand that LeBron's weakness are high IQ teams. LeBron always wanted to play with J-Kidd because of his high IQ. Watch how J Kidd defended LeBron that series as well as Marion. Both Kidd and Marion never get the credit but they are the ones who shut down LeBron by getting in his head. Oh, also DeShaun Stevenson as well.
One problem Miami had in that 2011 season was not having a true leader or go to guy. They weren't sure at that point whether it was LeBron or Wade's team. Thus causing LeBron to be a lot less aggressive and very passive. Wasn't until they talked during the summer following the Finals, that Wade offical made it Lebron's team and making him the guy in charge. I believe if LeBron mentally believed he was that guy that the 2011 series wouldn't ended differently. Dallas still could win due to Miami being so top heavy lacking a bench in 2011 and themselveshaving a great defensive team, but I don't see LeBron only dropping 8 points.
Great comment, that's complete facts too of course, and it remains a good thought and question, aside being another pivotal key, factor and another 2011 Heat/2011 Finals Heat aspect (though Funky did mention it in some way and the video remains perfect and unbiased anyway), and I too still struggle with the result even though I myself very much agree with you. So let's take out a year of wait and problem and make Wade give the keys to Lebron in 2011 already (that of course wasn't a crippling problem anyway for the Heat/Lebron, even in the Playoffs and all the East, just until it reached the Finals). So no more Heatles problem and no more Lebron not being the leader and not being the first option problem, that definitely were some ironic and relevant ones there when it all happened, well, definitely I too confidently say the extreme choke and failure don't happen (way more than 18 points, more on other stats, probably some more on defense too and definitely no the single Game where he put only 8 points), that's to begin with, then a choking is something both made but also unexpected and affected by many factors too, so, considering that he is still facing the greatest Mavs team of all-time (MVP Tyson Chandler turning into Bill Russell, Terry The Jet one of the most proficient three point shooters of all-time exploding back and worth 2 players, Jason Kidd with the keys on offense etc) and a better team in itself (so better than many of his role players and spacing in both actual talent alone and then team basketball, chemistry and veterancy too, only him and the other stars can do it and definitely there must be, even though it's still only Year 1 for them, some completely functional Lebron-Wade showing), with tremendous plans, tremendous defense and better coach too, the role players are still not good and not up to the task and there's no spacing, though they still get called a superteam facing Dirk ''alone'' (but in concrete to me they are still slightly a favourite over the Mavs) and still there's complete hate, hope for failure and all the odds against him, off the court (on a 26 years old too Lebron pre-in fact the topic-subject Mavs debacle and all the lessons and finalizing after it), on top of all that then I would say it can happen, but what can happen is also the usual leading, clutch/pressure, no luxury etc Lebron could remain and show up, and then there's still totally the chance that it remains a loss but so it would be a way better and with way more showing than even going to 6, so no choking at all, maybe to 7, maybe having even more of close calls, scores and tides vs the Mavs and putting a great performance. Definitely a better Finals for all of us, also more clutch and closer, absolutely not that less of a great showing for the deserving Mavs and then, for Lebron, not only it would complete very well/sufficiently his great 2011 Playoffs performance in the East but also it wouldn't be anymore the only Finals that he had a fault into (again, ironically, literally from extreme to extreme, for 5 whole Finals he was so good and did so much that not only he wasn't at fault but he had them as plus, aside the fact that 9 Finals and a decade Playoffs run in the Finals with 8 is completely insane anyway, but for the only one he was at fault he literally is in the worst place, so completely choked, was all the way in his own head and wasn't himself, it was in the ''best'' situation or at least luxury though again he thrives and do the best at the opposite and against the worst possible odds, he was the one mainly causing the loss etc, wow), and I would say instead that it would directly skyrocket to maybe even better/over than, I don't know, maybe the taking on of the locked-on all-time best normal team 2014 Spurs with a retirement home as teammates and crippled Wade and Bosh, or the taking on the greatest superteam of all-time KD Warriors but with a good team. Anyway surely not the last of all 6 great, insane performances both in the stats both in the clutch in the Finals and justified losses, considering that doing what he did in the 2011 Finals was really the ''only'' thing that killed something that could have been truly a great showing, considering again all the greatest Mavs team of all-time destroying the West, Kobe, KD etc, Heatles problem, no leading, no first option, no keys, no spacing, trash role players or no role players showing up around the stars, no the apt role players that would have came after it etc context.
Ckproduction03 Nah, there would be the need to specify too how it was the greatest Mavs team of all-time and their defense and clutch (without even mentioning the Heat, what was the status of Lebron in that Heat team etc) but with all of this it still remains a failure, a complete choke, of course Lebron is the most scrutinized player of all-time and the hate and those standards are completely unbiased, rigged and doesn't make sense but this remains a bad loss for a player like him, he absolutely killed it in the Playoffs (even on the Celtics and Bulls) but in the Finals there was a down turn and Lebron was everywhere up in his own head or something.
You can’t be the GOAT and have a 3-6 finals record, Jordan always balled out in the playoffs especially in the biggest stage, Lebron has had a couple embarrassing playoff series in his career
Naw, 2016 imo made up for 2011 and the other L's really were not his fault. Jordan isn't winning the 2007, 2017, 2018 finals with the same roster as Bron and '15 is definitely questionable as hell. I think the finals record is always gonna be a philosophical difference tbh
@@HaveFunLosingBro yeah there is, he did it in 2016. Coming back 3-1 vs a 73 win win returning champ warriors team is one of them most impressive accomplishments by anyone ever. 11 was horrible but 16 was at the very least equally as great
Wrong about one thing. The Mavericks were clearly the better team. They had the best defense and 3pt percentage of the playoffs that year. And in the lead up to games Terry, Stevenson, Marion and others were talking about how passive LeBron was in the series and he never proved them wrong. Yes Chandler left the next year, because the Mavs were over the cap and couldn't afford to keep half the team. Within the next 3 years almost everyone was gone. He was only the first domino to fall, and he was probably the most important. The Mavs have never had a consistent rebounder or defensive threat since he arrived, and they haven't had one since he left.
This finals was fixed because of the loss to Shaq and dwade which was supposed to be dirks first title look at the players involved prime lebron offense defense everything versus Jason terry and jj barea
Got tons of love for LeBron, but yeah that series put a huge nail in the GOAT conversation. Only way he could've recovered from 2011 was to beat the Warriors in 2017 which was damn near impossible.
So winning finals MVP on the only team ever to come back from a 3-1 deficit, against a team that broke the all-time win record, on back-to-back 40 point games, and giving Cleveland its first professional title in decades, doesn't do it? If it were anyone but LeBron, nobody would even *remember* the Dallas series after that 2016 championship.
one thing no one mentions is how every maverick on that roster that played in the playoffs plus butler in the regular season before he got hurt played at least 11 and a half seasons in the nba...pretty nuts...they weren't a team of scrubs
@@mastniburek5386 if you remove the top players on each squad mavs are obviously better. Still the heat should have won it since their star power was too great but LeBron's meltdown and cb not playing that well either they couldn't generate as much offence I mean dwade tried to carry them but it was ultimately a wasted effort
For sure, ironically both in quantity and quality, and both with overwhelming numbers (one struggles to even choose in where he is better because there's just sheer difference for both really, and any player with this kind of event wouldn't even recover let alone pass it and potently with both 2012 and 2016), but it's still good to look at what was and what happened, and what it changed and how it got even passed/fixed, and this of course counts for all the other players too and their careers.
@Minimal Interest 2007 finals: he was 22 and the Spurs were already veteran champions. you're insane if you think that he had a bad performance going up against a superteam at that age when their entire defensive game plan was to shut him down. By that logic, every time MJ lost to the Pistons was a "bad performance". 2009: LeBron averaged 39/8/8 on 49% shooting. One of the highest PPG in a playoff series ever, and you call it a choke job. 2010: Yeah he played pretty bad in games 4-6 but those were still fairly exaggerated. Idk why everybody else gets a pass for poor playoff games, while having an overall decent series, except LeBron. Win or lose too. 2015: That Warriors team should have destroyed them. He was the only option and played heavy iso and took way more shots than he normally does because the Cavs' plan was to basically force the Warriors to play slow. It should have been a sweep, to pin that loss on him is nuts. 2016: That's just not true. He played well the whole series except game 2, where the entire Cavs team was complete dogshit. 2017: LeBron averaged 34/12/10 on 56% shooting and 39% from 3. The team he way playing against had nearly back to back 70-win seasons, set a record for best start to an NBA season, and swept every team in the Western Conference en route to the Finals. 2018: You actually have to be an irrational hater for pointing out a flaw in an efficient 51pt performance in the Finals as a 4th seed going against one of the most stacked teams of all time. Not to mention the frustration and defeatism you would feel after your teammate literally throws the game away, and the refs reverse a call that should not have been reversed.
This makes no sense, stars - or even just separate stars and with no-spacing brickers, like for the 2011 Heat, or no actual help, like for the 2014 Heat, around them (in the case of the 2011 Heat, not only all of that but also having the Heatles problem + Lebron not being the leader and first option) - are worth nothing if you have Ben Wallace + Bill Russell disguised as Tyson Chandler (as valuable a-la Pau Gasol, so mind you both a real mvp like Chandler but also an actual multiple all-star), Jason The Jet exploding back and worth two players, Jason Kidd and Shawn Marion on top of everyone turning back the clock and especially being a better team (or, in the case of the Heat, actual team), waaaaay better team/chemistry as a team, and having a better coach and experience on any player and veteran. They aren't the greatest Mavs team of all-time for nothing, all of this matters (it's win-win for Dirk too, same work and same help but also taking on all the glory and nobody mentions Mavs team and coach and defense) + if you take out the best players/stars the roster is waaaay better for those stacked Mavs; without even mentioning the value of sixth men like Jason Terry or Toni Kukoc.
Drake has been great best artist right now but every artist falls off eventually when people get tired of the sound and I’m a drake fan but his last few albums have been mediocre and all sound very similar so I agree with funky diabetic
It's crazy, it's so bad and worse that it turned into a cult and by decades now, if not poor Lebron at least poor Kareem or even Bill Russell, Wilt and the rest of the top 10 all-time and so on (together with of course all the 80s and 90s opponents, especially the 80s that get specially disregarded and disrespected, and Rodman, Bulls, front office, Phil and so on, especially Scottie), the myth of MJ and the BS career of apparently 1991-1993 and 1996-1998 pollutes everything, apparently even seriously the college and the players too LOL, even Laettner, Grant, all the elite Tar Heels teammates, James Worthy and double-time Kareem got screwed all-time by sheer ignorance and bias.
Why ya all ways say lebron was bad and dont give credit to the Dallas Mavericks and what they did they also swept the two-time champions Lakers with kobe Bynum and Gasol with Phil Jackson
@@dstreet4599 He meant that too but he specifically meant the Lebron haters spewing bs and having double standards and all that here and when generally talking about the 2011 (2011 Finals only* really), of course he wasn't referring to Funky, that in fact did a perfect, informing and unbiased video covering this choke.
Henry No way dude you could literally run D.Wade at point, Mike Miller at the 2, James Jones at the 3, Bron at the 4, & Bosh at the 5.. Will never lose with that lineup
Josh Loach I mean, we can't know, ever-favourite MJ won only vs no-alone-crippled competition (and guarded by Scottie, and later Rodman too, called to bail out the Shaq problem and the Sonics-GP and Kemp problem) and the only all-time team he faced in the 90s was in the locker, so his stacked Bulls rained by the front office and Scottie, of course when he wasn't taking breaks to retire and pad his career. Don't know how he would have fared against the greatest Mavs team of all-time and with those bricks Heat and lead by Wade, definitely either Scottie or Rodman would have took care of their best players, just like it would happen when down 3-1 having to clutch (no Kerr and Paxson to save you though) vs the 73-9 Warriors unanimous MVP and best back court of all-time, with two games to dominate and win with over 40 points and with a series-all the players on the court to lead and dominate in every stat.
Fun fact: MJ still holds the longest consecutive 10-point games streak with 1,041 games including both regular season and Playoffs. bron is just at 780 games.
Loosing this series was good for Lebron's legacy because if Miami won D Wade would of been the finals MVP. The narrative would have been Lebron joined D Wade and D Wade carried him.
You might not think it was the best series Dirk ever played but it was before that series Derek had a reputation of being soft and couldn't play D he shed that reputation in that series it was a toughest I've ever seen Dirk play grabbing rebounds just getting it done making tuff clutch shots he barely took any threes that series.
@@FranqRise13 so i disagree about 2015 he did the best he could his 2 best players that series was delly and mozgov. the one people need to talk about more is that 2014 spurs series. Lebron was far and away the best player in that series but he got beat by the spurs role players.
Iirc Bosh played some center minutes but certainly not enough. Lebron melted down. It's crazy he scorched the earth of the footage. Edit PS please dont do that maybe Dallas could have lost thing. Then we do the maybe Lebron would only have 1 ring if 2 shots didnt go in (Kyrie and Ray Allen) the things that happened. Jason Terry got in Lebron's head and talked a ton of trash during the series.
You got that wrong, it's not like the excuses for Kobe and the Lakers getting swept by those Mavs (or whatever there can be for the rest of the annihilated West, be it Brandon Roy/Aldridge and those KD-Westbrook-Harden-Ibaka Thunder blown out in 5), it's factual that it could have gone either way against the Heatles, scores and tides were very close and that it still went to 6. Plus, you got totally wrong about the ''Ray and Kyrie'' flawed excuse, especially the Kyrie shot of course because Ray really did save all the Heat (though just like Fisher, Horry and Artest twice + Pau saved Kobe and Kerr and Paxson saved MJ, do double standards), that's a concrete and reasonable take and He Got Game having the biggest and clutchest shot of all-time is straight facts, though it was only thanks to Lebron that were there in Game 6, they were there in that fourth quarter and they were on the podium after Game 7 with Game 7/back against the wall Lebron delivering and living in the clutch as usual.
LeBron being 26 wasn’t the reason he didn’t put the blame on himself because till this day he has not addressed his terrible 2011 Finals performance. I don’t understand how some basketball fans truly believe that LeBron is the greatest of all time.
Lou York City Stop with this unbearable mix of ignorance + lying, he anyway probably put the blame on himself behind the cameras at that time and he already has completely took care of the 2011 Finals but, especially, he already absolutely addressed and he held himself accountable and responsible about the 2011 Finals, those great Mavs and what it showed to him/made him realize and how he changed and learnt totally from that. You are not credible after this lie and bs to spread your narrative.
Dusk TheHunter You’re a typical LeBron fanboy. LeBron never admitted that the 2011 Finals loss was on him. He didn’t accept the blame. All he said was because of that 2011 loss, it molded him into a better player. He took that loss as a lesson and became a better player since then. I respect LeBron for that. But LeBron has NEVER owned up to the fact that HE choked in the Finals. Not then and not now. Saying “I didn’t play well” is not the same as saying “I choked and that Finals loss was on me” He would never admit that he choked and couldn’t get by Jason Terry and JJ Barea
Dusk TheHunter And my narrative is “LeBron is not the greatest of all time”. I stand behind that and challenge anyone who disagrees to prove be wrong. If you can’t, then log off CZcams.
@@dropoff2986 I'm definitely not a biased fanboy and instead you're evidently a bit biased on Lebron, or at least in this topic I don't know (especially with the further bs, misleading/incorrect and ignorant ''couldn't get by Jason Terry and JJ Barea'' as you definitely know yourself, come on man), though it's not like you're mindlessly hating or anything, of course I want to make that clear. ? What do you mean? Of course, obviously it's like that and I agree, there was no explicit and complete admitting and addressing of all that and stuff but, if you're familiar with sports leagues, media/athletes or public characters and the approaches in this case and especially with media themselves and the careful and dangerous dynamic with them (or even common sense about the topic, really), I would say to you ''are you serious?...'' Like, you're treating this completely like it's nothing or a normal scenario and you pretend the same stuff and actions that would be (rightfully) requested and done between normal people with nothing more behind or that don't touch themselves relevantly, like Lebron and the NBA is equal to people and acts in a normal and not-business real life scenario or even virtually, I mean, of course he didn't, wouldn't in a lifetime probably and definitely nobody else would, but the point is that he/they don't need to do that (unless you're not aware of what you're requesting from him/them or you want them to self-harm, both aren't possible to be taken), like, you are telling me that you fault public people, like Lebron, for doing their interest or even protecting themselves (because of course a part of the media, but especially all the critics as you would know, would use it or even distort it, can you imagine the haters alone already cheering at Lebron admitting and talking about this in that gradation and in this stretch?) when exposing themselves officially and to the public, and also that they should do more (the normal/real life/uninterested approach so) and this isn't enough? You do realize that you can't treat Lebron and the 2011 NBA Finals question or MJ with the multiple First Round streak questions or Kobe with his many ones and stuff like we ourselves would talk or debate and request each other for honesty, complete transparency and responsibility (be it here on CZcams or even out of the internet face to face and knowing each other), right? It's not even excusing them or talking about complete artificiality or continuosly lying and stuff, it's only that you can't frigging ask a player or any other character about a stain and pretending that they nonchalantly do the complete and proper package like it's anything else and there's no consequences (even in social media themselves/him answering from Instagram or something, they still remain people with their business, brand and working and exposing themselves all the time), and especially you can't ask more from a guy like Lebron who already did everything for what he could about this topic and his answer (on himself and even on the competition, though again you can't pretend that players should also come there and talk with no filter even about others, especially opponents, nonchalantly.... or were you about to say to me that he should also tell ''oh yeah, I choked for this, this and this and it was my fault but also they were great and stacked and Tyson, Dirk, Terry, Kidd and Shawn gave me some work!' Also my teammates struggled too and as a team we did even worse so yeah the 2011 Finals were trash for us and I admit it!''? I hope not because it's a folly request) when he addressed it that time, you can't act like they should do like players with no more interests or something and in podcasts/talking with each other on camera on TNT or wherever else and willing putting themselves there and wanting to talk without fundamentally much care, like a Charles, C-Webb, Shaq, Isiah, KG, Rasheed, or TMac, Pierce, RJ, Gilbert and stuff, you feel me, not even Kobe (retired too, let alone as a player, like Lebron of course, let alone MJ that wants to preserve his aura and so on, aside his actual contract, responsibilities, restraints and stuff, and so he shows up or is up for answers very really and only for special occasions/official ones) did anything about that, no interview, no direct and clear answers and such (aside of course way later, so I think the last podcast before the tragedy), and you can't fault him for that, or you can't fault Ernie, Kevin McHale or Kerr, especially when/as coaches, for still not pushing it and them still taking stuff with the minimum care even in those scenarios. ...Man, about that (C-Webb and TNT in general) also, I just recalled when they had one of those moments talking about the Shaq's Lakers context and stuff and Steve Smith straight talked it straightly and mentioned/criticized/''exposed''/called out the bs of the Lakers and them cheating in 2000 WCF and 2002 WCF ahahah; but again, see, not even there (or even anywhere else, C-Webb really doesn't talk about it and nobody can bash C-Webb for being bitter or something) it's not like C-Webb did anything or went with it, be it personally (Shaq, Kobe if he ever heard of it, the Lakers organization, Kings, NBA or whatever) or again publicly for the official organizations, workplaces, the league, media and stuff C-Webb still didn't want to push it, or TNT, Ernie, Kenny and whatever cautious person there really doesn't want stuff like that to really happen; but again, you won't ever see Isiah or whatever forcing Magic (in the past of course), MJ or Pippen to expose and excuse or whatever for the Dream Team stuff, and Isiah-Magic talking about that and then some + Shaq-Kobe was all about themselves and them deciding it that way, and I guess taking even there their right precautions and whatever, so let alone all of them owning something to the public and fans and doing themselves a disservice for that. Now, privately instead would be something different, and in fact, again, not only with himself but also with others/teammates and between them he definitely addressed and did the complete proper and decent stuff, so yeah, if Lebron, MJ, Kobe, Shaq, whatever and all players in their situations wouldn't do this than there's a problem, for themselves directly too, but you can't act like their position doesn't exist and they are some random guys talking on social and keeping it completely real and without thought/consequence whatsoever, you can't force them to do that holding them at fault, it doesn't make sense. Though, about ''Lebron and all the players in his similar position'', one must say that the difference between him (or even others eh, I don't know, it's not like Lebron is the only virtuous one, at all-time or lower level at least or whatever further category as a public person he might be) and MJ, Kobe or anyone else, definitely KD too as you must know, in this situation is that not only they wouldn't properly and completely take on their bad losses publicly, and again I don't fault them for that of course like I explained completely, but also they wouldn't even mention them unlike Lebron. I bet there's just some passive-aggressive bashing on the Bulls/Lakers teammates and self-excusing, unlike what factually Lebron does, be it here or in his other justified and good losses, but the difference is MJ, Kobe, others and stuff is that they don't have haters and instead have absolute love cults, or either they are just less popular and scrutinized than of course frigging Lebron, so either no one talks about that for MJ and Kobe (or even would say ''yeah that's what they should do, it means that they are stronger!'', complete cognitive bias and double standard) or either no one cares or anyway doesn't get outraged like at Lebron, but when talking about Lebron then the bashing is extreme and absolute + nothing is enough and Lebron should always push or even reach levels of self-bashing, so this is complete bullshit, folly and unfair by the haters, and not fair critiques by people fairly disliking Lebron or something. Sorry for the long ass comment and explanation, just wanted to be clear, unbiased and cover it as completely as possible.
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Can u clear up ur thoughts drakes new tape? I thought it was better than his last 3 albums for sure
lebrons game 7 2006 at the pistons entire 2007 finals and game 1 2008 at boston plus game 5 2010 east semis at home vs boston are low key some stinkers too...people tend to forget those moment for him...1 game happens like game 4 2011 fine it can occur to anyone one bad game a series thats normal but his first 2 finals outside of game 1 2011, lebron was flat out bad like even in his other win he was terrible carried by bosh and wade....his first 6 road finals games he was 1-5 and in that one win he had 17 and 3 rebs 4 turnovers 3 fouls and wade had 29...its pretty bad...the nerves got to him..
lebron fans need to stop making excuses and just call him out for choking against a ancient kidd older dirk old terry old marion a semi washed chandler who found his stride again after that year when people thought he had become a bench player so he was not yet at his peak an ancient peja a old haywood a old cardinal an older deshawn a young mahinmi experience wise and a youngish brewer....barea was the the only player playing at their peak that series and he came into his own that playoffs clearly ...my dude lebron had 2 points in game 2 in the 4th they lost by 2 he had 2 points in game 4 in the 4th they lost by 3 he had 2 points in the 4th in game 5 they were up in the 4th early...he just time and time again choked...miami should of won that series 5-0...they got outplayed in the 2nd half of game 6 I won't defend that but that series should of been over thats the point...the mavs stringed together one amazing half where shots fell..good job but before the last 5 minutes of game 5 miami had outplayed them for 5 games...should of swept them...mavs literally won this series with a 7-8 minute barrage late in game 2 a lebron choke job in game 4 a solid 5 minute stretch in game 5 late and one amazing half in game 6...they clearly were not the better team
mike bibby cost miami this series by being a flat out zero in 5 of the games and all 4 loses...he was awful...and they didn't trust house enough imo who could of made some shots over that zone they didn't use jones much they were scarred to use any bigs besides joel and haslem and they waited too long to trust chalmers and they threw juwan out there
lebron chose to go to miami and form a big three and he did not keep up his end of the deal in his prime in close games... this isn't old kg scoring 17 a night and being a defensive monster its lebron shitting the bed...he still had joel rio haslem miller juwan jones house pittman bibby..stop it...bibby was the only guy who played in this finals without a ring...miami had enough..the next year sure they added cole turiaf harris curry and battier but they lost bibby big z magloire dampier and house so it wasn't like they added a whole bunch..they basically lost the same amount they gained but battier was better than bibby so it worked out in 2012 in the finals where miami was basically 8 deep only and still won one night the 8th man being jones then joel then cole then turiaf ..only 7 guys showed up for miami in the 2012 finals and really 6 guys pre game 5 where miller exploded...and the 6th guy was more of a combo of haslem and miller for 4 games...it was basically miami's main 5 vs the thunder main 5 and miami won...nether team had a 9th man they trusted really...it was a 8 vs 8 battle pretty much with mia's 8th man revolving per game
Drakes new mixtape is mediocre, fantastic way to start off this video absolutely electric
Bryan Ryder LMAOOOOO REALLY THO
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Cam Reddish has never had a bad playoff series.
Reddish for MVP
Cam reddish has never finished a season where he wasn’t mvp
Sir Cartier At this point he’s quickly approaching GOAT status
Hawks need to trade Trae so they can build around Cam
Cam Reddish #1 Fan he’s gonna be the best player once he develops and adjust to the nba
A drake album/mixtape that’s mediocre? Shocker...
to be fair, it is a demo tape. so just lefties. but i'd imagine the album later this year not being a whole lot better tbh.
The 2012 year was not remotely the same Dallas team. Peja was gone, Butler, Stevenson. They let everyone go to go after Dwight Howard and Deron Williams
Peja, Kidd, Marion, Stevenson and Barrea gave performances of their lives throughout that playoff run. Dirk and Terry where legendarily clutch in the finals.
um don't forget tyson barea and brewer too...in that playoff run they had 12 guys 5 of the best 10-11 were gone...cardinal and ian were important for like 1 game each in the playoffs...brewer was more necessary same for peja and barea and butler did carry them in the regular season so stiffs like deshawn kidd marion haywood barea and terry had legs still come june...
In hindsight it is so fucking dumb I’ll never forgive them for that especially Tyson if we just kept him and his defense we could run it back
To bd fair Caron Butler didnt play for the whole playoffs cause of an injury
@@gabe425 Doesn't matter, Terry exploded for two players, and that doesn't count the rest of that stacked all-time Mavs team.
So no one... no one in the comments is going to mention what the 2011 mavs did to the western conference in the playoffs? Swept a PRIME Kobe right after he won a ring. Beat OKC, and the Blazers who had a well balanced roster Yes,Lebron choked tremendously.. but NO ONE predicted the mavs were going to run though the western conference playoffs like that.
These are facts that biased haters don't like though, Lebron absolutely and ironically choked/failed but you can't hate more if reality says that Wade lead-Lebron and the Heat (those no-space Heatles) took on the greatest Mavs team of all-time (and with Ben Wallace disguised as Tyson Chandler on top of The Jet Terry exploding back - RIP Terry though two years later by Lebron killing him, that was a shame - , and that terrorized the West by taking out those Brandon Roy-Aldridge Blazers, sweeping defending champion Kobe and his dynasty Lakers coached by Phil Jackson with then blowing out in 5 those KD-Westbrook-Harden-Ibaka Thunder and so on) and lost.
theyre mainly kobe lovers and lebron haters that cant accept hes the GOAT
Kobe averaged 23-3-3 Lebron averaged 18-7-7 on better efficiency. It’s an underperformance but very over exaggerated. Lebron was still the 3rd best player in the series.
Unfortunately that Mavericks run is looked at in the context of LeBron instead of the kind of crazy unexpected run it was for Dirk and the team
Dirk was UNSTOPPABLE. I am not a Mavs fan but I knew Dirk would go on a run eventually
the series that seperates lebron and jordan
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But you will never talk about how the Dallas Mavs sweeped Kobe and Pau right? Lebron doesn’t bring his best this one time in the finals and y’all shit on him for it
Gucci Ak-47 he didn’t ‘not bring his best’ he straight up choked
@@gucciak-4740 not saying LeBron ain't great, just saying that Jordan different cause that never happened to him.
Jordan on another level.
Joe Kama Yes and No, Jordan almost had a 2011 in the 1996 finals where the Sonics were really giving it to them and also count the Bad Boys Pistons but LeBron was worst in my book
Im in transit, or I would show how utterly Dallas outplayed Miami in the last three minutes of five of the six games. In the other 270 minutes of the series Miami was a little better, but Dallas totally owned the final 18 minutes. I doubt any other NBA Finals went like that.
Allow me:
G1 - First 45:00 MIA 82, DAL 73 (MIA +9); Last 3:00 DAL 11, MIA 10 (DAL +1)
G2 - First 45:00 MIA 90, DAL 86 (MIA +4); Last 3:00 DAL 9, MIA 3 (DAL +6)
G3 - First 45:00 MIA 84, DAL 82 (MIA +2); Last 3:00 DAL 4, MIA 4 (Even)
G4 - First 45:00 DAL 80, MIA 78 (DAL +2); Last 3:00 DAL 6, MIA 5 (DAL +1)
G5 - First 45:00 DAL 100, MIA 100 (Even); Last 3:00 DAL 12, MIA 3 (DAL +9)
G6 - First 45:00 DAL 97, MIA 89 (DAL +8); Last 3:00 DAL 8, MIA 6 (DAL +2)
In summary:
In the first 45 minutes of each game (270 total minutes), Miami outscored Dallas by a combined 5 points.
In the last 3 minutes of each game (18 total minutes), Dallas outscored Miami by a combined 19 points.
For perspective, if Dallas played a full game against Miami at that "final 3:00" pace, they would have won by 50. And if Miami had played a full game against Dallas at that "first 45:00" pace, it would have gone into OT unless there's a way to score 0.88 points in a single game.
Granted, two of those games make up the vast majority of Dallas' margin, but I'd bet the house that, given no other information, one team would win five of the six closing stretches, and the other team would win none. At a glance, that seems rather improbable, mathematically speaking.
I remember reading something about this years ago, but I wanna say that guy isolated it to the last FIVE minutes, not three. Time for another post.
G1 - First 43:00 MIA 75, DAL 69 (MIA +6); Last 5:00 MIA 17, DAL 15 (MIA +2)
G2 - First 43:00 MIA 88, DAL 79 (MIA +9); Last 5:00 DAL 16, MIA 5 (DAL +11)
G3 - First 43:00 MIA 81, DAL 76 (MIA +5); Last 5:00 DAL 10, MIA 7 (DAL +3)
G4 - First 43:00 DAL 79, MIA 78 (DAL +1); Last 5:00 DAL 7, MIA 5 (DAL +2)
G5 - First 43:00 MIA 96, DAL 95 (MIA +1); Last 5:00 DAL 17, MIA 7 (DAL +10)
G6 - First 43:00 DAL 95, MIA 87 (DAL +8); Last 5:00 DAL 10, MIA 8 (DAL +2)
In summary:
In the first 43 minutes of each game (258 total minutes), Miami outscored Dallas by a combined 12 points.
In the last 5 minutes of each game (30 total minutes), Dallas outscored Miami by a combined 26 points.
Not surprisingly, this doesn't change the picture too much. Let's treat these two situations as one game again:
If Dallas played a full game against Miami at that "final 5:00" pace, they would have won by 41. And if Miami had played a full game against Dallas at that "first 43:00" pace, they would have by 2 points.
Happy Marc Cuban Defensive scheme noises
Those Mavs and their coach Carlisle defense and schemes with Cuban were really top tier and stacked (on top of already Chandler too), greatly deserved 2011 West title and Finals title, and status as greatest Mavs team of all-time.
As a Bron fan this series hurts to talk about . My guy just didn’t show up for some reason. I still have no words, I’m just happy he turned it around the next season and finally got over the hump, but no excuses for my favorite player. Definitely was a choke job
Us Mavs fans remember that series well. The Heat dominated the Eastern conference playoffs, then ran into a brick wall... at the end of game 2.
well the heat won game 3. then they hit a wall.
Omar Hernandez Not as dominating as those Mavs, that were literally terrorizing the West, Kobe, KD and were the best Mavs team of all-time already on the spot for that, even before the Finals.
Game 3 btw*
Today i got a video from you which was 4 or 5years ago man you talked about math homework and stuff and you sounded much happier :D. I like how you talk in your vids this rambly conversation thing. Just surprised me ^^.
lmaooo the intro 😭😭😭😭
What pisses bronsexuals off the most is telling them Iggy had LeBron boxed in the 2015 finals. They say 36 points I say 39%.
Hahahaha. What pisses them off even more is when LeBroom got swept in 2018.
@@johnbest4513 😂😂😂
John Best I’m still mad about it
John Best I’m not like a LeBron fan or anything like that but like who was on the team? Kevin love but that’s about it
@@kennethhanes5702 Kevin Love been garbage too 🤣
The better team won the final. Did the Heat have better individual talent? Most definitely. But the Mavs built a roster that had great depth and synergy to get the most of their players' strengths and to cover for their weaknesses.
Sure Dallas got beat heavily in 2012's opening game. Don't forget, Cuban didn't resign a good chunk of the team. Losing Chandler had a huge impact on the Mavs defense the coming years and Chandler still had a few prime years left in him. Don't forget: he did win DPOY with the NY Knicks in 2012.
I doubt they would've been able to make a repeat to the finals, even with bringing back the whole team. But just look at the Raptors without Kawhi. Toronto isn't the same team, of course, but they're still giving the Eastern Conference a run for their money. I'm positive Dallas would've remained competitive for at least a season or two with the majority of their 2011 team.
This was the one Finals loss that can legitimately be held against LeBron. In the two losses to the Spurs and three losses to the Warriors, LeBron did everything he individually possibly could, but his teammates were completely outmatched by their opponents in those five Finals.
Oh absolutely, that goes without saying and it doesn't even fill the description that would hold the achievements accomplished there and in those playoffs, 2016 on top of 2012 finalized his all-time 1-2/top 3 status plus the fixing of this.
Ironically, this complete choke and failure happened when he wasn't the biggest underdog and winning/being overwhelmed by either superteams or all-time teams either in the Playoffs or in the Finals, when he had actual teammates (aside the no spacing and total bricking, and the Heatles) and finally when he wasn't the leader and first option of the team lol, he definitely made himself a favour returning in the dire and clutch/extreme odds and situations of before after 2011, luxury evidently wasn't for him (of course elite competition, everyone wanting him to fail, the greatest Mavs team of all-time terrorizing and annihilating the West, Kobe, KD and everyone and the most scrutiny and hate of all-time didn't help, but still).
It just simply means be wasn't, is not, and will not be the GOAT, if when he loses it is "his teammates not stepping up".
Being able to team-carry is the minimum requirement to be considered as the GOAT.
LeBron's 2011 Playoff run was insane up until the Finals G4. Including a killer series closing sequence vs the Celtics AND a killer series closer vs the Bulls. He was indees phenomenal defensively though, even in the Finals... Maybe the best wing defensive performance I've seen...
That's facts, a shame that those events and off-court battle happened, it ruined a performance.
Call me crazy but I’ve always said top to bottom the mavs were a better team. Coach included
I wouldn't say that, probably even, or, if considering the off-court damage, hate, cheer to fail etc on one man that Lebron recevied, Heatles problem, no spacing and bricking teammates, no more total underdog but also no leading and no first option Lebron etc, slightly in favour for the greatest Mavs team of all-time and their better coach, but I would say still in favour for the Heat/Lebron/Wade leading.
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LeBron wasn't passive in this series, it was Jason Kidd who got in his head. Not many people understand that LeBron's weakness are high IQ teams. LeBron always wanted to play with J-Kidd because of his high IQ. Watch how J Kidd defended LeBron that series as well as Marion. Both Kidd and Marion never get the credit but they are the ones who shut down LeBron by getting in his head. Oh, also DeShaun Stevenson as well.
One problem Miami had in that 2011 season was not having a true leader or go to guy. They weren't sure at that point whether it was LeBron or Wade's team. Thus causing LeBron to be a lot less aggressive and very passive.
Wasn't until they talked during the summer following the Finals, that Wade offical made it Lebron's team and making him the guy in charge.
I believe if LeBron mentally believed he was that guy that the 2011 series wouldn't ended differently. Dallas still could win due to Miami being so top heavy lacking a bench in 2011 and themselveshaving a great defensive team, but I don't see LeBron only dropping 8 points.
Great comment, that's complete facts too of course, and it remains a good thought and question, aside being another pivotal key, factor and another 2011 Heat/2011 Finals Heat aspect (though Funky did mention it in some way and the video remains perfect and unbiased anyway), and I too still struggle with the result even though I myself very much agree with you.
So let's take out a year of wait and problem and make Wade give the keys to Lebron in 2011 already (that of course wasn't a crippling problem anyway for the Heat/Lebron, even in the Playoffs and all the East, just until it reached the Finals).
So no more Heatles problem and no more Lebron not being the leader and not being the first option problem, that definitely were some ironic and relevant ones there when it all happened, well, definitely I too confidently say the extreme choke and failure don't happen (way more than 18 points, more on other stats, probably some more on defense too and definitely no the single Game where he put only 8 points), that's to begin with, then a choking is something both made but also unexpected and affected by many factors too, so, considering that he is still facing the greatest Mavs team of all-time (MVP Tyson Chandler turning into Bill Russell, Terry The Jet one of the most proficient three point shooters of all-time exploding back and worth 2 players, Jason Kidd with the keys on offense etc) and a better team in itself (so better than many of his role players and spacing in both actual talent alone and then team basketball, chemistry and veterancy too, only him and the other stars can do it and definitely there must be, even though it's still only Year 1 for them, some completely functional Lebron-Wade showing), with tremendous plans, tremendous defense and better coach too, the role players are still not good and not up to the task and there's no spacing, though they still get called a superteam facing Dirk ''alone'' (but in concrete to me they are still slightly a favourite over the Mavs) and still there's complete hate, hope for failure and all the odds against him, off the court (on a 26 years old too Lebron pre-in fact the topic-subject Mavs debacle and all the lessons and finalizing after it), on top of all that then I would say it can happen, but what can happen is also the usual leading, clutch/pressure, no luxury etc Lebron could remain and show up, and then there's still totally the chance that it remains a loss but so it would be a way better and with way more showing than even going to 6, so no choking at all, maybe to 7, maybe having even more of close calls, scores and tides vs the Mavs and putting a great performance.
Definitely a better Finals for all of us, also more clutch and closer, absolutely not that less of a great showing for the deserving Mavs and then, for Lebron, not only it would complete very well/sufficiently his great 2011 Playoffs performance in the East but also it wouldn't be anymore the only Finals that he had a fault into (again, ironically, literally from extreme to extreme, for 5 whole Finals he was so good and did so much that not only he wasn't at fault but he had them as plus, aside the fact that 9 Finals and a decade Playoffs run in the Finals with 8 is completely insane anyway, but for the only one he was at fault he literally is in the worst place, so completely choked, was all the way in his own head and wasn't himself, it was in the ''best'' situation or at least luxury though again he thrives and do the best at the opposite and against the worst possible odds, he was the one mainly causing the loss etc, wow), and I would say instead that it would directly skyrocket to maybe even better/over than, I don't know, maybe the taking on of the locked-on all-time best normal team 2014 Spurs with a retirement home as teammates and crippled Wade and Bosh, or the taking on the greatest superteam of all-time KD Warriors but with a good team.
Anyway surely not the last of all 6 great, insane performances both in the stats both in the clutch in the Finals and justified losses, considering that doing what he did in the 2011 Finals was really the ''only'' thing that killed something that could have been truly a great showing, considering again all the greatest Mavs team of all-time destroying the West, Kobe, KD etc, Heatles problem, no leading, no first option, no keys, no spacing, trash role players or no role players showing up around the stars, no the apt role players that would have came after it etc context.
The top of this vid is peak
It’s crazy that 18 7 and 7 is considered an all time bad series. That just shows how high of a standard Lebron is held too.
18 points is bad for an MVP level player in the finals
Ckproduction03 Nah, there would be the need to specify too how it was the greatest Mavs team of all-time and their defense and clutch (without even mentioning the Heat, what was the status of Lebron in that Heat team etc) but with all of this it still remains a failure, a complete choke, of course Lebron is the most scrutinized player of all-time and the hate and those standards are completely unbiased, rigged and doesn't make sense but this remains a bad loss for a player like him, he absolutely killed it in the Playoffs (even on the Celtics and Bulls) but in the Finals there was a down turn and Lebron was everywhere up in his own head or something.
You can watch the full games of any finals if you have nba League pass/nba tv
Josh Garcia I also think amazon prime
Quick question how would the next seasons one regular season game show that the better team lost? That doesn’t make much sense to me.
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this mixtape was DEFINITELY better than Scorpion.
That first sentence was the best shit I’ve ever heard on this channel
NBA league pass has all the finals from the 2000s so u can watch the full games (not an ad just response to what you said)
Good times..
You can’t be the GOAT and have a 3-6 finals record, Jordan always balled out in the playoffs especially in the biggest stage, Lebron has had a couple embarrassing playoff series in his career
Naw, 2016 imo made up for 2011 and the other L's really were not his fault.
Jordan isn't winning the 2007, 2017, 2018 finals with the same roster as Bron and '15 is definitely questionable as hell.
I think the finals record is always gonna be a philosophical difference tbh
@@Storm-jn5ct there is no making up 2011.
@@HaveFunLosingBro yeah there is, he did it in 2016.
Coming back 3-1 vs a 73 win win returning champ warriors team is one of them most impressive accomplishments by anyone ever.
11 was horrible but 16 was at the very least equally as great
Arshdeep Singh Jordan also played on the best team of al time and LeBron always carried his teams other than the heat witch he only lost one
Minimal Interest I can tell you know nothing about the nba
Dirk's playoff performance was awesome. Most exciting performance since Dwade
You should talk bout music, movies, tv, games, events dat happen in da world bruh. I fw what you say
Pain 1993 was over hyped
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Crazy to think udonis is still in the league
Wrong about one thing. The Mavericks were clearly the better team. They had the best defense and 3pt percentage of the playoffs that year. And in the lead up to games Terry, Stevenson, Marion and others were talking about how passive LeBron was in the series and he never proved them wrong. Yes Chandler left the next year, because the Mavs were over the cap and couldn't afford to keep half the team. Within the next 3 years almost everyone was gone. He was only the first domino to fall, and he was probably the most important. The Mavs have never had a consistent rebounder or defensive threat since he arrived, and they haven't had one since he left.
Damn
I could send you unedited 2011 finals
Im pretty damn sure that you made this video knowing that there would be a small war in the comments. You God damn genius
A Lebron video about him falling and a bash of drake album, you starting off a new month of quarantine right aren’t you funky😅
Wow funky I actually enjoyed that drake tape you broke my heart
I thought Scorpion was bad, this new Drake makes that sound decent
This finals was fixed because of the loss to Shaq and dwade which was supposed to be dirks first title look at the players involved prime lebron offense defense everything versus Jason terry and jj barea
This was the best moment. As a MFFL
I’ll never forget Dirks 48 against the thunder it was the best performance I have ever seen in my life
Drakes mixtape is honestly not good it seems like he tried way too hard to sound like his old self. It’s just not the same.
The series that proved Lebron cant be the goat.
Got tons of love for LeBron, but yeah that series put a huge nail in the GOAT conversation. Only way he could've recovered from 2011 was to beat the Warriors in 2017 which was damn near impossible.
So winning finals MVP on the only team ever to come back from a 3-1 deficit, against a team that broke the all-time win record, on back-to-back 40 point games, and giving Cleveland its first professional title in decades, doesn't do it?
If it were anyone but LeBron, nobody would even *remember* the Dallas series after that 2016 championship.
Do you have league pass?
I would’ve tittled the video the series that dirk proofed he’s definitely better than kg
Tbh wade was probably the best player in that series it's just dallas was hot af and LeBron's disappearing act screwed the heat big time
one thing no one mentions is how every maverick on that roster that played in the playoffs plus butler in the regular season before he got hurt played at least 11 and a half seasons in the nba...pretty nuts...they weren't a team of scrubs
Asmosis Jones but still had a way worse roster than the heat
@@mastniburek5386 if you remove the top players on each squad mavs are obviously better. Still the heat should have won it since their star power was too great but LeBron's meltdown and cb not playing that well either they couldn't generate as much offence I mean dwade tried to carry them but it was ultimately a wasted effort
Y do u want to remember his worst moments, he has more good ones than bad ones
Because there’s so few of them lmao
For sure, ironically both in quantity and quality, and both with overwhelming numbers (one struggles to even choose in where he is better because there's just sheer difference for both really, and any player with this kind of event wouldn't even recover let alone pass it and potently with both 2012 and 2016), but it's still good to look at what was and what happened, and what it changed and how it got even passed/fixed, and this of course counts for all the other players too and their careers.
@Minimal Interest 2007 finals: he was 22 and the Spurs were already veteran champions. you're insane if you think that he had a bad performance going up against a superteam at that age when their entire defensive game plan was to shut him down. By that logic, every time MJ lost to the Pistons was a "bad performance".
2009: LeBron averaged 39/8/8 on 49% shooting. One of the highest PPG in a playoff series ever, and you call it a choke job.
2010: Yeah he played pretty bad in games 4-6 but those were still fairly exaggerated. Idk why everybody else gets a pass for poor playoff games, while having an overall decent series, except LeBron. Win or lose too.
2015: That Warriors team should have destroyed them. He was the only option and played heavy iso and took way more shots than he normally does because the Cavs' plan was to basically force the Warriors to play slow. It should have been a sweep, to pin that loss on him is nuts.
2016: That's just not true. He played well the whole series except game 2, where the entire Cavs team was complete dogshit.
2017: LeBron averaged 34/12/10 on 56% shooting and 39% from 3. The team he way playing against had nearly back to back 70-win seasons, set a record for best start to an NBA season, and swept every team in the Western Conference en route to the Finals.
2018: You actually have to be an irrational hater for pointing out a flaw in an efficient 51pt performance in the Finals as a 4th seed going against one of the most stacked teams of all time. Not to mention the frustration and defeatism you would feel after your teammate literally throws the game away, and the refs reverse a call that should not have been reversed.
I love your videos bro they are the best!! Even inspired me to make my own channel check it out!!
Drake is typically mediocre. I doubt I’ll ever listen to it.
Hello There He's all marketing.
Day 12 (I think) of asking funky to make an Isaac okoro video
Drakes mixtape is fire
Heat not being talented is a poor excuse when Dallas had sixth men and role players around Dirk no second and third star
This makes no sense, stars - or even just separate stars and with no-spacing brickers, like for the 2011 Heat, or no actual help, like for the 2014 Heat, around them (in the case of the 2011 Heat, not only all of that but also having the Heatles problem + Lebron not being the leader and first option) - are worth nothing if you have Ben Wallace + Bill Russell disguised as Tyson Chandler (as valuable a-la Pau Gasol, so mind you both a real mvp like Chandler but also an actual multiple all-star), Jason The Jet exploding back and worth two players, Jason Kidd and Shawn Marion on top of everyone turning back the clock and especially being a better team (or, in the case of the Heat, actual team), waaaaay better team/chemistry as a team, and having a better coach and experience on any player and veteran.
They aren't the greatest Mavs team of all-time for nothing, all of this matters (it's win-win for Dirk too, same work and same help but also taking on all the glory and nobody mentions Mavs team and coach and defense) + if you take out the best players/stars the roster is waaaay better for those stacked Mavs; without even mentioning the value of sixth men like Jason Terry or Toni Kukoc.
Drake has been great best artist right now but every artist falls off eventually when people get tired of the sound and I’m a drake fan but his last few albums have been mediocre and all sound very similar so I agree with funky diabetic
Tell that to Mark Cuban lol people still think he was right on first take
Bro I use to love Jordan but Jordan fans are super toxic. Low key made me not like him because of his stans
It's crazy, it's so bad and worse that it turned into a cult and by decades now, if not poor Lebron at least poor Kareem or even Bill Russell, Wilt and the rest of the top 10 all-time and so on (together with of course all the 80s and 90s opponents, especially the 80s that get specially disregarded and disrespected, and Rodman, Bulls, front office, Phil and so on, especially Scottie), the myth of MJ and the BS career of apparently 1991-1993 and 1996-1998 pollutes everything, apparently even seriously the college and the players too LOL, even Laettner, Grant, all the elite Tar Heels teammates, James Worthy and double-time Kareem got screwed all-time by sheer ignorance and bias.
Why ya all ways say lebron was bad and dont give credit to the Dallas Mavericks and what they did they also swept the two-time champions Lakers with kobe Bynum and Gasol with Phil Jackson
He did credit the Mavs. Specifically how they guarded Lebron and how everyone hit clutch shots.
@@dstreet4599 He meant that too but he specifically meant the Lebron haters spewing bs and having double standards and all that here and when generally talking about the 2011 (2011 Finals only* really), of course he wasn't referring to Funky, that in fact did a perfect, informing and unbiased video covering this choke.
btw mavs could not even beat the heat in 2k that year 😂💯
mavs won 3 out of 4 games in miami that season in real life ...they were tough
Zephyrheals The 2011 Heat were easy to beat on 2K, all you had to do was run a 2/3 zone. It was like the Mavs did in real life
Henry No way dude you could literally run D.Wade at point, Mike Miller at the 2, James Jones at the 3, Bron at the 4, & Bosh at the 5.. Will never lose with that lineup
The glazed look Dirk had at the end of some of those games. He was completely in the zone, on a different level.
Chief Keef > Drake
Now I'm no hater but ain't no way Jordan would've let this Mavs team beat him in the finals
Josh Loach I mean he is the second greatest of all time and the greatest didn’t sooooooooooo😬
Kenneth Hanes delusion
Josh Loach I mean, we can't know, ever-favourite MJ won only vs no-alone-crippled competition (and guarded by Scottie, and later Rodman too, called to bail out the Shaq problem and the Sonics-GP and Kemp problem) and the only all-time team he faced in the 90s was in the locker, so his stacked Bulls rained by the front office and Scottie, of course when he wasn't taking breaks to retire and pad his career.
Don't know how he would have fared against the greatest Mavs team of all-time and with those bricks Heat and lead by Wade, definitely either Scottie or Rodman would have took care of their best players, just like it would happen when down 3-1 having to clutch (no Kerr and Paxson to save you though) vs the 73-9 Warriors unanimous MVP and best back court of all-time, with two games to dominate and win with over 40 points and with a series-all the players on the court to lead and dominate in every stat.
Prime AD that’s all you
I think it’s mediocre 😂😂
im happy dirk got a ring :)
Fun fact: MJ still holds the longest consecutive 10-point games streak with 1,041 games including both regular season and Playoffs.
bron is just at 780 games.
Loosing this series was good for Lebron's legacy because if Miami won D Wade would of been the finals MVP. The narrative would have been Lebron joined D Wade and D Wade carried him.
You might not think it was the best series Dirk ever played but it was before that series Derek had a reputation of being soft and couldn't play D he shed that reputation in that series it was a toughest I've ever seen Dirk play grabbing rebounds just getting it done making tuff clutch shots he barely took any threes that series.
Derek...
That reminds a seriously hilarious one, again about Dirk, reading ''Drink Nowitzki'' in the comment section killed me back then ahhahaha, man....
LeBron was trash in this series not gone lie but the Mavericks was a good team to they beat the lakers and okc
you are really running out of ideas...
This and 2015 are the evidence that he isn’t the best player since he had far superior teammates than jordan but failed.
2015?
Siddh Shahi Both his all-star teammates were injured in 2015
@@bangobuck8722 He shot 39% from the field, 31% from 3 and 68% from the ft line
@@FranqRise13 so i disagree about 2015 he did the best he could his 2 best players that series was delly and mozgov. the one people need to talk about more is that 2014 spurs series. Lebron was far and away the best player in that series but he got beat by the spurs role players.
@fresh prince no because curry was up 3-1 in 2016 u telling me they can't win one game without Andrew bogut or Dray?
Iirc Bosh played some center minutes but certainly not enough. Lebron melted down. It's crazy he scorched the earth of the footage.
Edit PS please dont do that maybe Dallas could have lost thing. Then we do the maybe Lebron would only have 1 ring if 2 shots didnt go in (Kyrie and Ray Allen) the things that happened. Jason Terry got in Lebron's head and talked a ton of trash during the series.
You got that wrong, it's not like the excuses for Kobe and the Lakers getting swept by those Mavs (or whatever there can be for the rest of the annihilated West, be it Brandon Roy/Aldridge and those KD-Westbrook-Harden-Ibaka Thunder blown out in 5), it's factual that it could have gone either way against the Heatles, scores and tides were very close and that it still went to 6.
Plus, you got totally wrong about the ''Ray and Kyrie'' flawed excuse, especially the Kyrie shot of course because Ray really did save all the Heat (though just like Fisher, Horry and Artest twice + Pau saved Kobe and Kerr and Paxson saved MJ, do double standards), that's a concrete and reasonable take and He Got Game having the biggest and clutchest shot of all-time is straight facts, though it was only thanks to Lebron that were there in Game 6, they were there in that fourth quarter and they were on the podium after Game 7 with Game 7/back against the wall Lebron delivering and living in the clutch as usual.
LeBron being 26 wasn’t the reason he didn’t put the blame on himself because till this day he has not addressed his terrible 2011 Finals performance.
I don’t understand how some basketball fans truly believe that LeBron is the greatest of all time.
He has. He said before that 2011 made him mentally stronger and made him.just a better basketball player and since then he hasn't underperformed.
Lou York City Stop with this unbearable mix of ignorance + lying, he anyway probably put the blame on himself behind the cameras at that time and he already has completely took care of the 2011 Finals but, especially, he already absolutely addressed and he held himself accountable and responsible about the 2011 Finals, those great Mavs and what it showed to him/made him realize and how he changed and learnt totally from that.
You are not credible after this lie and bs to spread your narrative.
Dusk TheHunter
You’re a typical LeBron fanboy.
LeBron never admitted that the 2011 Finals loss was on him.
He didn’t accept the blame.
All he said was because of that 2011 loss, it molded him into a better player.
He took that loss as a lesson and became a better player since then.
I respect LeBron for that.
But LeBron has NEVER owned up to the fact that HE choked in the Finals.
Not then and not now.
Saying “I didn’t play well” is not the same as saying “I choked and that Finals loss was on me”
He would never admit that he choked and couldn’t get by Jason Terry and JJ Barea
Dusk TheHunter
And my narrative is “LeBron is not the greatest of all time”.
I stand behind that and challenge anyone who disagrees to prove be wrong.
If you can’t, then log off CZcams.
@@dropoff2986 I'm definitely not a biased fanboy and instead you're evidently a bit biased on Lebron, or at least in this topic I don't know (especially with the further bs, misleading/incorrect and ignorant ''couldn't get by Jason Terry and JJ Barea'' as you definitely know yourself, come on man), though it's not like you're mindlessly hating or anything, of course I want to make that clear.
? What do you mean? Of course, obviously it's like that and I agree, there was no explicit and complete admitting and addressing of all that and stuff but, if you're familiar with sports leagues, media/athletes or public characters and the approaches in this case and especially with media themselves and the careful and dangerous dynamic with them (or even common sense about the topic, really), I would say to you ''are you serious?...''
Like, you're treating this completely like it's nothing or a normal scenario and you pretend the same stuff and actions that would be (rightfully) requested and done between normal people with nothing more behind or that don't touch themselves relevantly, like Lebron and the NBA is equal to people and acts in a normal and not-business real life scenario or even virtually, I mean, of course he didn't, wouldn't in a lifetime probably and definitely nobody else would, but the point is that he/they don't need to do that (unless you're not aware of what you're requesting from him/them or you want them to self-harm, both aren't possible to be taken), like, you are telling me that you fault public people, like Lebron, for doing their interest or even protecting themselves (because of course a part of the media, but especially all the critics as you would know, would use it or even distort it, can you imagine the haters alone already cheering at Lebron admitting and talking about this in that gradation and in this stretch?) when exposing themselves officially and to the public, and also that they should do more (the normal/real life/uninterested approach so) and this isn't enough?
You do realize that you can't treat Lebron and the 2011 NBA Finals question or MJ with the multiple First Round streak questions or Kobe with his many ones and stuff like we ourselves would talk or debate and request each other for honesty, complete transparency and responsibility (be it here on CZcams or even out of the internet face to face and knowing each other), right?
It's not even excusing them or talking about complete artificiality or continuosly lying and stuff, it's only that you can't frigging ask a player or any other character about a stain and pretending that they nonchalantly do the complete and proper package like it's anything else and there's no consequences (even in social media themselves/him answering from Instagram or something, they still remain people with their business, brand and working and exposing themselves all the time), and especially you can't ask more from a guy like Lebron who already did everything for what he could about this topic and his answer (on himself and even on the competition, though again you can't pretend that players should also come there and talk with no filter even about others, especially opponents, nonchalantly.... or were you about to say to me that he should also tell ''oh yeah, I choked for this, this and this and it was my fault but also they were great and stacked and Tyson, Dirk, Terry, Kidd and Shawn gave me some work!' Also my teammates struggled too and as a team we did even worse so yeah the 2011 Finals were trash for us and I admit it!''? I hope not because it's a folly request) when he addressed it that time, you can't act like they should do like players with no more interests or something and in podcasts/talking with each other on camera on TNT or wherever else and willing putting themselves there and wanting to talk without fundamentally much care, like a Charles, C-Webb, Shaq, Isiah, KG, Rasheed, or TMac, Pierce, RJ, Gilbert and stuff, you feel me, not even Kobe (retired too, let alone as a player, like Lebron of course, let alone MJ that wants to preserve his aura and so on, aside his actual contract, responsibilities, restraints and stuff, and so he shows up or is up for answers very really and only for special occasions/official ones) did anything about that, no interview, no direct and clear answers and such (aside of course way later, so I think the last podcast before the tragedy), and you can't fault him for that, or you can't fault Ernie, Kevin McHale or Kerr, especially when/as coaches, for still not pushing it and them still taking stuff with the minimum care even in those scenarios.
...Man, about that (C-Webb and TNT in general) also, I just recalled when they had one of those moments talking about the Shaq's Lakers context and stuff and Steve Smith straight talked it straightly and mentioned/criticized/''exposed''/called out the bs of the Lakers and them cheating in 2000 WCF and 2002 WCF ahahah; but again, see, not even there (or even anywhere else, C-Webb really doesn't talk about it and nobody can bash C-Webb for being bitter or something) it's not like C-Webb did anything or went with it, be it personally (Shaq, Kobe if he ever heard of it, the Lakers organization, Kings, NBA or whatever) or again publicly for the official organizations, workplaces, the league, media and stuff C-Webb still didn't want to push it, or TNT, Ernie, Kenny and whatever cautious person there really doesn't want stuff like that to really happen; but again, you won't ever see Isiah or whatever forcing Magic (in the past of course), MJ or Pippen to expose and excuse or whatever for the Dream Team stuff, and Isiah-Magic talking about that and then some + Shaq-Kobe was all about themselves and them deciding it that way, and I guess taking even there their right precautions and whatever, so let alone all of them owning something to the public and fans and doing themselves a disservice for that.
Now, privately instead would be something different, and in fact, again, not only with himself but also with others/teammates and between them he definitely addressed and did the complete proper and decent stuff, so yeah, if Lebron, MJ, Kobe, Shaq, whatever and all players in their situations wouldn't do this than there's a problem, for themselves directly too, but you can't act like their position doesn't exist and they are some random guys talking on social and keeping it completely real and without thought/consequence whatsoever, you can't force them to do that holding them at fault, it doesn't make sense.
Though, about ''Lebron and all the players in his similar position'', one must say that the difference between him (or even others eh, I don't know, it's not like Lebron is the only virtuous one, at all-time or lower level at least or whatever further category as a public person he might be) and MJ, Kobe or anyone else, definitely KD too as you must know, in this situation is that not only they wouldn't properly and completely take on their bad losses publicly, and again I don't fault them for that of course like I explained completely, but also they wouldn't even mention them unlike Lebron.
I bet there's just some passive-aggressive bashing on the Bulls/Lakers teammates and self-excusing, unlike what factually Lebron does, be it here or in his other justified and good losses, but the difference is MJ, Kobe, others and stuff is that they don't have haters and instead have absolute love cults, or either they are just less popular and scrutinized than of course frigging Lebron, so either no one talks about that for MJ and Kobe (or even would say ''yeah that's what they should do, it means that they are stronger!'', complete cognitive bias and double standard) or either no one cares or anyway doesn't get outraged like at Lebron, but when talking about Lebron then the bashing is extreme and absolute + nothing is enough and Lebron should always push or even reach levels of self-bashing, so this is complete bullshit, folly and unfair by the haters, and not fair critiques by people fairly disliking Lebron or something.
Sorry for the long ass comment and explanation, just wanted to be clear, unbiased and cover it as completely as possible.
This must’ve been a pretty traumatizing vid for you to make huh funk?
Almost like lebron threw the finals that year or something.
He robbed my guy DWade of finals MVP smh
did he jus disrespect drake?? nah. I can’t no longer watch you woe🤦🏻♂️
How tf is drakes mixtape mediocre🤦♂️
Drake haters can’t wait to tell you they don’t like drake lol
Dudes a complete corn ball lol, stills flows and styles from smaller rappers constantly and doesn’t even give credit.
please take your cold takes on music elsewhere
Lol this is why LeBron will never be the goat