Music teacher reacts: JINJER - Pisces (Live Session)
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Music teacher reacts: JINJER - Pisces (Live Session)
You guys asked for it so here it is! Jinjer is a pretty killer band and upon further research, I noticed their live videos are just as sick. Don't be so distracted by the killer vocalist that you forget to pay attention to the killer musicians in the band. Super unreal talent here!
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Max Morton is their producer. He is finally receiving the attention he deserves thanks to Jinjer. He is the genius who came up with the idea of putting distortion in Tati's headphones so that she hears herself as if she is in the setting of a live show. That's why she sounds in a live setting just like she does in studio. He is also the one who paid the $300 to mix their first song after he heard them. He gambled on them, because he said he saw something very special in them. He and they worked so hard to get where they are. They're like the Rocky of metal, coming from abject poverty in a war torn country with no hope of escape. Music was literally their one and only shot.
Hey thanks for sharing that, I didn't know the headphone thing and found that very interesting! Hope all is well with you and yours!
You guys were so vocal (pun intended) about doing this one next! Thank you a million times over for your support of this channel. You guys rule!
@mickor yeeeeees definitely!!
If you are that impressed by Pisces you should really check the musical and lyrical composition in "Teacher Teacher".
And nonstop time changes
Absolutely
Oooh... 27
Yeah, Pisces is great and, for an average band, would be their one hit wonder song. Instead, by Jinjer's standards, Pisces is kind of average.
For sure!
JINJER - Perennial (Live at Wacken Open Air 2019) | Napalm Records
Great to see someone picking out the individuals in the band and not focused on the singer. She's an absolute beast, but so is the rest of the band.
This song is one of my favourites of all time. So freaking good.
The rest of Jinjer I've checked didn't grab me as much as this one. But they are indeed super talented.
As for how the hell did your channel grow so fast, I think the answer starts with 'Night' and ends with 'Wish'
This was the first song they did with their newest drummer Vlad. The song was already recorded and on an album with their previous drummer, but Vlad added so much to the song with things like the ghost notes you noticed that the band just had to record it for the world as his debut. Vlad is also an amazing guitarist and came up with some of their newer material on the Micro/Macro albums.
As far as their writing process, the guys write the songs in advance and give demos to Tati to write lyrics to. They don't even know what she writes until she records, hell sometimes she doesn't even know, she just comes up with a lot of it on the fly as she's recording. Her lyrics are pretty deep and always have a lot of meaning with clever metaphors.
Tati is one of the best in the business. She has amazing vocal control and they use backing vocal tracks live that she can harmonize to quite well (usually, 95% of the time). Sometimes you'll see her pull out her ear monitors and the harmonies suffer occasionally when that happens (Resurrection Fest live).
As mentioned elsewhere, I too feel its about time that someone looks at this song beyond our dearest obsession that is Tatiana, and addresses just how tight this band is! They make her sound great!
Don't get me wrong, Tatiana draws us in with her beauty, her angelic/demonic voice, but the boys in the band give her the legs she requires to be able to stand there and make us all aware of this awesome band known as Jinjer.
Jinjer - Perrenial live wacken is a must..btw good reaction
music ginger piece reacts: "Teacher Teacher"
Fun reaction and great analysis - subbed. Seen them twice and they are sooo amazing on stage. I'd highly recommend some concert videos.
That studio setup is just epic in the most understated way - It looks so much like someone said "oh, hey this room is free, let's record there" and yet all the little details of subtle but complex lighting to create all those highlights, costuming vs. decor (Star Wars' black and white costuming theme replicated by the musicians, echoing the ANH poster). The way the gold filter really contributes to the jazzy feel in the beginning - I still remember my first time seeing this thinking how this could be played at a casual but classy jazz bar somewhere before the growls started haha. I feel total awe and respect for the folks who put the visual aspect of this together every time I see it. And then there is the song which is so amazingly great.
The funny thing about the doubled vocals on the growls is that they actually kept Tati's vocals more moderate in her medium growl range or a bit lower, and I suspect that was because if she was going into her low growls a lot like she frequently does when performing Pisces in concert, it would have been a lot harder to match up the two tracks so they sounded right.
I'd recommend all of their official live videos. Not sure if you've heard the live versions of Who Is Gonna Be The One and Pit Of Consciousness live in Kiev - both take the growls way lower. Perennial live at Wacken is also epic and showcases the flexibility of everyone with another epic display of ghost note skills so good I've seen people reacting to it think they are using a shaker. :)
Temple Music Academy...coming through for your fans!!! Great reaction Brother!!!
Thank you so much! Welcome to the channel!
try JINJER - Teacher teacher
Really "Epica" is also awesome.....
-Consign into oblivion (live at Zenith)
-Sancta terra ft. floor Jansen (retrospect)
-kingdom of heaven
And really would like your thoughts about "Revamp"
Try:
-Wildcard
-Disdain
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This performance right there is one of the highest displays of musicianship that I have ever heard, especially the non-growl bits. Every single little thing is spot on, and the song is not in a 4/4 notation (?) as most other songs are, which I can only assume makes it even harder to play cause it's not a "natural" timing to play on. Yet it just flows. It has just the right amounts of everything. It's just brilliant.
Agreed 100%
I am so glad someone pointed out the drummer!!!! He is phenomenal !!!!
It’s such a subtle part that non drummers don’t notice it. It is one of the best drum performances out there. The set of skill set you need to play it like he does is off the charts great. So as you nicely communicated,,,,EVERYONE NEEDS TO OAY ATTENTION TO THE DRUM PART”. People should listen to the drum part specifically on their own
React "EPICA SANCTA TERRA ft FLOOR"
Kamelot Elizabeth I II III or Abandoned
This has become one of my personal favourite songs of all time.
I LOVE your reactions of Jinjer. You look so happy it makes me happy. This band literally saved my life I adore them all. Thank you. More please!
Killer band, and totally amazing live (was lucky enough to see them last year in London). What I particularly love about Tatiana is that there's a clarity to even her most brutal growls which means the lyrics are still clear as day.
They decided to do this live video for it at the time both as a video, but also because Vlad (the drummer) had joined recently and played the song differently than the recorded version (all that ghost note work etc), so they wanted the video to include his style instead of the original recording. Its also why they added a lot of that stuff like vocal harmonies, to replicate the original recording.
Beautiful. Please do more, they are all insanely great. Jinjer will wow you as much as you wowed us with your analysis. Subbed
Comments on the backing vocal tracks were spot on. More and more we’re seeing musicians doing small gigs, clinics, and performances at music booths using backing tracks tied to a click track in what ever Daw they just happen to use. In fact, you mentioned Jason Richardson (all That Remains) not only uses the click track with backing instruments, but uses midi commands within the tracks, to change his presets during a show.
Glad I found your channel, great post.
Love your reaction! One of the best! And I have seen like a thousand Pisces reactions. You know what you're talking about and you noticed the musicians too!
What a kind comment. Thank you for this! Made me smile, legit. Thanks for supporting the channel
I can't tell you how many reaction videos I've watched to this song WAITING for someone to mention the time signatures. Finally, SOMEONE says something! I think they deserve more attention, though. Go back and listen to the first section again. It starts with 7 beats, goes to 3, then briefly to 4 beats before the transition. As a long time Rush fan and high school drummer. the rhythm changes in this song really make me happy. Great reaction. Like most people, I usually watch reactions to this song for the eye pop at the first chorus, but this reaction was just as good in its own way.
Just found your channel and awesome to see how passionate you are about the different aspects of the music. I love the comments about the growling, many of my friends, family etc just think its noise...but after listening to it for so long you learn to break it down and there is a beauty in art! New Fan!!!
Hey Stephen! Welcome to the channel! Thanks for your comments :)
Loved your input on the song. Can´t wait to see you react and comment on more Jinjer. "Teacher, Teacher" and "Perennial" live are a must do! Keep up the great reactions.
You know your stuff big time. Your station is awesome because your not just a singer. You are teaching music on your station and really educating everyday lovers of music. I think you are providing non musicians the most incredible gift....knowledge and insight the takes listening enjoyment to an even higher level. I hope non musician listeners realize they are getting all of this for free.
I love watching you geek out. Very entertaining!
Definitely do more Jinjer! Teacher teacher and Perennial live at Wacken are worth the watch!!
(Little secret, ssst, don’t tell anyone, but when you start with some Dutch talent from the tv show Beste Zangers you might get even more subscribers...... and have some more fun too🤘) Your reactions are such pleasure to watch. Tatiana gives me goosebumps time after time
Probably very true at least if he does the 2019 with Floor
Helge Hansen It was because of Floor that I started watching too and flipped through previous years on NPO (I don’t watch tv) on demand. Now I am enjoying the reactions, drinking more of our water cause that is what is wondering them all, what is in it🙃.
@@martinehermans6661 hehe i dont speak dutch do only been seeing the 2019 season that got translated by Denise and if not for Floor's participation i probably would have missed out on all the other great singers to
New subscriber purely on the fact that you are the first one that I have seen to actually watch this video and give it the time and attention that it deserves beyond just the "WOAH!!!!!" factor of listening to it for the first time.
More please...
Also, you should listen to the original album version of Pisces, they had a different drummer when they recorded it and the difference in feel is kind of shocking.
I've seen these guys live and by god were they mesmerising to watch and listen to. Their technical and artistic abilities both individually and collectively are something to behold.
And each time I listen to one of their songs, I find something new. That is a rare thing to find. Only other examples I can think of are Jaco Pastorius' Reza/Giant Steps/Reza of his Invitation (Live) album, and Nigel Kennedy playing the Gypsy Chardash live - saw him live recently too. Utterly (and insanely) brilliant. :)
I love the stuff man!! My favourite reactor of all time (and I’ve listened to a lot).. keep it up!!
Wow what an amazing compliment, thank you! Means the world to me and you've made me smile today :)
Temple Music Academy That’s what it’s all about, just trying to do my part in these tough times, I hope you’re doing well!
Now, THERE'S a refreshing reaction without the shock effects. Finally, someone who can appreciate the whole song in its entirety and have a real listen to the other musicians! Excellent!! Subscribed!!
Thank you for the kind words, Rahim and welcome to our family!
When I first heard Jinjer (it was actually an older song "Sit, Stay, Rollover") I knew I found a band that was amazing. My musical talent is... lacking... virtually non-existent... but I do really get into lyrics and lyric writing. I have yet to find a single song from Jinjer that I don't love. Every single member of Jinjer has such amazing talent and I love that every song they do.
As a side note I heard in one interview that the whole point of this live video for Pisces was actually to show off Vlad Ulasevich as a drummer as he was the most recent addition to the band and I love that you kept going on about him since that is what they wanted in the first place.
So glad I checked out your channel, keep up the good work!
Some beautiful things about this. This song was originally recorded on their album King of Everything with their previous drummer. The album was released just before this current drummer came on. They decided to re-record it with the new drummer and his interpretation of the drum part adds many more ghost notes than the original drummer had and it's more the better. Also, in the original recording, the high vocals during the bridge were layered with the harsh growl vocals that were almost at the same record level which kind of obscured the impact of her beautiful high vocals. I love that they didn't do that for this recording. It should be noted that when they do this song live during vocal part in the bridge she does the growl vocals because personally she thinks she'll bust the high notes at the end of the phrase in the moment and would rather not worry about it.
Thanks man, i loved your reaction, because you tought me more than i already knew. And you said what i suspected was right but couldnt figure out myself. I try to make my friends a jinjer fan but it takes some time it seems like. After hearing this and astronomy, teacher teacher, etc etc i have no doubt. I was also looking forward to see them this summer but that wont happen. Take care and be carefull about the covid. Thank you.
You know, something I've never heard any reactor mention or even seem to notice are those badass pre-bent notes of Roman's in the chorus. I only play a little guitar, and it's been a long time, but that seems to me like it would be _really_ tough to do so consistently every single time like that.
Am I missing something and that's easier than I think?
Also, _thank you_ for having a good ear and/or just a clue about how studio production works. Of _course_ her voice is layered in places. It's plain as day! Not just on the cleans, too, but on the screams as well. No, that doesn't mean she can't really scream like a beast; clearly she can. I'm so sick of people who either think it has to be all 100% natural, or just an effects pedal, and whoever thinks the opposite is crazy.
Yes, this was a live studio session, but it's still a produced, studio-quality finished track, complete with effects, layering, EQ, compression, etc. Hell, there's even an entire extra guitar track recorded by Roman that sounds like a _Wurlitzer_ that 90% of people never seem to notice. Or maybe they think it's magic? I dunno.
Best reaction I've seen on this track!
Well good sir!!! You have a new follower!! Keep up the good work.
This song is so perfect, each time^^
The moment you noticed their Opeth influence, INSTANT SUBSCRIBED!!! I love your analysis and insight! Great reaction.
I was surprised you didn't mention the time signature changes until the end. With a deep musical breakdown that is usually the first thing to grab the ear. They use like 5 different time signatures through the song. But you heard those ghost notes. Vlad is killing it with some of those beats so soft and harmonic. It is truly eargasmic. Jinjer takes pride in their progressive metal backbone and you clearly have an appreciation. And lastly let's talk about Tati. So beautiful in her look. So beautiful in her clean vocals. And amazing growls, which are real and not doctored. Yes this is a live studio recording with post production added to augment the sound. It in no way falsifies the performance. Watch their live performances to become a believer.
You are going to love their song teacher, Teacher
you are right man > this band is one of a kind, and I'm also a musician for a long time like you!
maybe you can do next a live video:
JINJER - On The Top (Live in Kiev) | Napalm Records
and then an official video:
JINJER - Teacher, Teacher! (Official Video)
and the another live video:
JINJER - Perennial (Live at Wacken Open Air 2019) | Napalm Records
thanks for your reaction on an outstanding band > including the drummer :-))
greetings from germany and from a german musician
That's by far the best reaction I've seen about this song.
Jinjer is awesome. I saw them live in November. Once again I'd love it if you reacted to the song And Plague Flowers The Kaleidoscope by the band Ne Obliviscaris do the live version its amazing.
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so many reacters focus solely on the vocals and i really wanted someone to appreciate the amount of talent coming from everyone involved in the production. Fucking great reaction man, and educational. Subbed.
Thanks so much for your comment. Means the world to me that you're supporting the channel :)
liked your reaction - you analysed aspects i hadnt heard of yet
I saw them live in the fall. They were absolutely incredible
Some of my favorite parts of this song are the transitions. Just flawless.
Great reaction and analysis. Tati's vocal slides are absolutely impressive. These four band members (5 with Sasha, their sound guy) are awesome. I would say they are a once in a lifetime combination, but their previous band members were fantastic too.
Jinjer is hands down my favorite band. Ever. If you haven't listened to them in a while then you've missed out on some new music. Check out Teacher Teacher, Who is Gonna be the One - Live, Retrospection, Judgement & Punishment - Live.
They have said in some interview there is some minor layering here and there on the live session so doubt anyone will tear your head off for pointing it out lol
Well this is fantastic news! Please bring this up if im ever on trial for the layering comment :)
it is also in the description of the original video "...then added over some extra lines, like a few backing vocals and guitars..."
After your description of Cattle Decapitation, I checked them out and holy shit, thank you!
haha did you!?! That's so awesome! I hope you like them :)
I saw in an Interview that the only effect Tatiana uses is a slight delay. She uses it to give her cleans a layered effect and helps give her grows a little more punch.
Gained a new sub my man great reaction love jinjer this band is talented
Thank you so much for the sub! Welcome to the family and our channel!
Nobody talks enough about that drummer!
Finally, at least someone noticed the drummer. Like
Liked & subbed. You encapsulated how I feel about this track (except you know what you're talking about). Tatiana's vocals give me full-body goosebumps every time. More Jinjer please!
May I suggest Jinjer's "Judgement & Punishment"? There's a recent live recording that's very good & the official video version has a very dark fairy story vibe, funny too. Either version is fine...
I am glad you mention the ghost notes, becuase i heard this video was made to actually showcase their new (at the time) drummer. The studio version of this song is a little bit different becuase it was recorded with the old drummer.
Dude, sick reaction and analysis.
Thanks Neal! Great to have you on the channel :)
Love your style brother.
For more Jinjer reactions just do everything. Especially live performances.
Thanks so much for supporting this channel!
Yay for the ghost notes emphasis
That drummer is SICK
Hey mate, awesome reactions, Love watching em! As a Follower from Germany i‘d absolutely Love to see you react to an absolutely mad, talented german progressive metal Band, Unprocessed - Abandoned. They Go absolutely crazy on their Instruments, and the singer is awesome! Keep the great work going & stay healthy :)
Subscribed ) Would LOOOVe to listen to new jinjer reactions from you )
Love the Death Atlas shoutout
This Chanel is growing fast because you have professional broadcasting skills.
For me the best part of her singing is her clean highs at the end.
I also love as soon as you heard the Opeth part you noticed it, the first time I heard this I was blown away by how much it reminded me of Opeth.
My favorite part also, too bad she does not do that live, she says it is too high and is afraid he will mess it up.
this is the only band out there you cant put in frame...every song is art with no borders
So if you'll notice the part in the bridge where she does the slur at 11:08 in your video, she does that slur right on point with the bass melody going up and down.. perfectly. I never noticed until someone pointed out in another reaction video. I ingest more of this song with every listen. Sooo good!
🤘🤘❤️🤘🤘 Sweet!!! 😁🤘🤘
Funny thing about their purpose for making the video in the first place, it was to feature their new drummer, but it's exploded on the interwebs for other reasons, as you know.
Not sure if it is even realised by many, but in the description of the video it actually states this:
"I believe we had this idea to record a new version of “Pisces” when we first rehearsed the song with Vlad Ulasevich as a new drummer. His drumming makes the song sound really different. So we finally had some free time last winter, we went to Istok studio in Kiev, did a live recording and shooting, then added over some extra lines, like a few backing vocals and guitars, then Max from Morton Studio made this new magnificent version of mixing and here we are - Pisces video. I hope you will enjoy it!"
So yes, they openly admit to vocal layering, but this video in particular was designed to highlight Vlad (the new drummer) and his interpretation of the song, so focusing on him and his usage of ghost notes in particular is not a bad thing to do!
Love the reaction!
Yet another great video.
Nightwish - Yours is an Empty Hope live at Wembley, you really need to check it out. Floor has a little surprise in the chorus.
Now I'm off to look up the term "ghost notes."
Mad props for the Best of the Best clip :-P
😊...I like the intro... Jinjer is awesome.
2:19...it's cool you mentioned the instruments, really it's what I hear first when I find a new band (as I did with Jinjer three years ago) and then if I'm into that, then I get into the vocals. 👍
Thanks for your comment! Im still blown away by that drummer!
I had been stumbling down a CZcams hole of Nightwish, Jinjer, and Devin Townsend reactions tonight/this morning...
And you, sir, have just earned a sub!
Would love to see you react to Kamelot - Elizabeth (the live version from the One Cold Winter's Night concert).
Cheers!
I hadn't had much of an emotional response to music before, but 11:33 I got chills and my eyes watered a little. My favorite song of all time.
Yeah, they said that was the whole reason for the video, so that they could layer her voice in studio. Still KILLED IT
Actually, this drummer joining was the whole reason they re-did Pisces. Dude nails it. Recommendations for songs:
- Unleash The Archers - Awakening (official music video)
- Wintersun - Sons of Winter and Stars (Sonic Pump Rehearsals)
- Ne Obliviscaris - And Plauge Flowers the Kaleidoscope (Live in Colorado)
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Good to see someone else catches the Opethy part of the song ^^
Gotta have opethy parts.... haha welcome to the channel!
Who knew that the phrase "Virgin innocence" could be so intimidating?
This song has launched more channels than youtube has.
Tatiana- vocals, Roman- lead guitar, Eugene- epic bass, and last but not least, Vlad- on super percussion
DJ - Sincere reactions and utter gingerness. haha. Thanks for your comment!
Take a look at one of these, Slaughter To Prevail - Demolisher
is one of my favorites, but the other 2 are amazing!
Slaughter To Prevail - Agony
Bad Omen- Dethrone
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yo, TMP! have you listened to the studio version of this song at any time?
Really enjoying your reaction style. Great to have someone who is familiar with video game music.
Would be interesting in seeing reaction to Faith & Decision by Versailles.
Also Van Canto and Ancient Bards well worth a listen. Anyway have a great week.
We all come for Tatiana, but the musicians stay for the details.
Nice balance of enthusiasm and explanation. Jinjer Forever! \m/\m/
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If you want to see some BADASS technical drumming check out Arïen van Weesenbeek of Epica. Mind-blowing! In particular, look up "Universal Death Squad" for which you can find the official video, official drum playthrough video, and live drumcam video. Simone Simmons also is another clean neoclassical metal vocalist fronting Epica and a joy to listen to alongside the other fantastic musicians!
For another mixed-vocal female singer, have you reacted to anything from Toronto-based The Agonist? They started with Alyssa White-Gluz (currently of Arch Enemy) and have had Vicky Psarakis up front for a few years now.
Master of Vocal Layering? Hansi from Blind Guardian. There's like 12 different layers of vocals on every track. It's fucking awesome. Also, this song very much reminds me of Change (In the House of Flies). So many similarities.
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So, for the record: you are from Canada, you have your own Band, you like Metal and i guess (i am not a musician, i just enjoy music) you know, what you are talking about. Well, you got a new subscriber! Greetings from a german, living in Switzerland!
What kind things to say. Thank you very much! Welcome to the channel and I look forward to chatting together soon!
I discovered this song a month or so ago and long story short guess what band is my most listened on pandora and spotify for june....holy crap is this band good
I would love to see you do some Unleash the Archers -Awakening. I found Jinjer because of Pisces being in my CZcams recommended videos after watching Awakening.
Also, obviously more Jinjer. Any songs/videis/official live stuff you haven't heard before.
Oh man... wish I could but its tough to do songs by your friends... Our bands have played together often so it would make me a little uncomfortable to be honest :)
@@TempleMusicAcademy That's cool. Brittney is an awesome singer and the band shreds. I wouldn't be here listening to Jinjer and Nightwish stuff if I hadn't found them years ago. \m/
Excelent....react
Thank you :) Welcome to the channel!
Drummer wise you have to take a look at Mario Duplantier from Gojira (take a look at the band too ...).
Thank you for not faking it and telling that you knew the song (as you are a metal, I would have been surprised that you didn't :D).
Keep going man!
what I know about this session from their interviews, yes there is layering, The producer that did the audio for the video was the same from the album, so he had the vocal takes from the album laying around, he did the magic of layering them with the live take in the video, and boom, done.
and yes, if layering is auto-tune, I guess then I autotune my guitar takes -_-... because you know it's not like there's 2 takes of my rhythm and then 2 of my lead layered to make it feel more like a wall of guitar.
The guitarist always gets glossed over, but, having learned this song, one, yes, it's actually easier to play a 7 string than a 6 (vertical extension so I have an extra 3 descending notes in any position)
However, if you've ever played this song, The stretches are monsters especially on the extended scale of a 7 string. The position is a bit awkward for a few of them, the runs down when you kick the stomp box are incredibly hard to get clean. you're going from above the octave to open in a single run, never an easy feat to do cleanly at that speed.
also any time you transition from something that heavy, going back to clean and sounding good doing it, it's an incredibly hard task, usually as a guitarist we take a moment to reset, usually it's a long ringing note or chord then to clean, not just *heavy*.. *boom*.. *clean* that's not how we normally approach it, because the chord shapes that work clean often do not work with high gain, and a lot of structures that sound good with a lot of gain are boring when you play them clean.. it's a different vocabulary, it's like speaking English then switching to speaking Ukrainian mid sentence. (pun)
Just a quick note. The correct terminology in the world of youtube reactions is that if you're not hearing the song for the first time it's not a "reaction" anymore, but a "review". I've seen many reactors on yt put in a "reaction/review" if they've heard the song before :)