5 Common Nautical Campaign Mistakes in Dungeons & Dragons

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  • @theDMLair
    @theDMLair  Před rokem +13

    MARITIME & MADNESS | Ship and naval combat ruleset and the Seas of Tasslebrook Adventure Arc
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  • @goliathcleric
    @goliathcleric Před rokem +310

    Actually, fire on a ship at sea is a massive danger and very difficult to extinguish. That's the reason all sailors in the US Navy are certified firefighters (or at least, they used to be, not sure anymore). Even though you're surrounded by water, there's often no way to get that water to the fire and it just turns into a graveyard of burn victims. Grisly stuff.

    • @theDMLair
      @theDMLair  Před rokem +36

      That makes sense. :D

    • @karsonkammerzell6955
      @karsonkammerzell6955 Před rokem +33

      No official certification, but we absolutely were trained to don equipment (and timed), maneuver the hose in small spaces, concerns on backdraft, training spaces where they'd light the floors on fire, etc. Each of the divisions on the ship had individuals dedicated to fill in if a fire-based emergency required more people than we had normally allocated to it.
      In fact in the modern Navy we're also trained on what we need to use for different classifications of fire; flammable metals, electrical fires, primary methods to extinguish them alongside the secondary 'oh shit' method, etc. Class Delta fires, for example, generate their own 'triangle' (fuel, heat, oxygen) where you cannot actually cut off one from the others; the metal of landing gear on aircraft can be Delta and you just dump it into the ocean because you cannot actually put it out. Just jettison and let Poseidon sort it out, lol.

    • @goliathcleric
      @goliathcleric Před rokem +11

      @@karsonkammerzell6955 ah, that certainly sounds like the military. All the training, none of the certifications. I went army myself, so I only knew what I was told by my father, but that certainly runs the same as we did.

    • @jameskristofferson1488
      @jameskristofferson1488 Před rokem +3

      They are, i went through firefighting training and reoccurring firefighting training

    • @valeri0n38
      @valeri0n38 Před rokem +7

      Retired Navy here and yes, all of the training to fight fires can be intense.
      In all my years I only ever had to fight one actual fire and that wasn't even on a Navy ship.
      We pulled into Busan where a merchant had also moored. The merchant had, on the foggy night before, collided with another ship which resulted in a fire in the cargotainers. The merchant specifically requested our help so a bunch of us were assigned to go help fight the fire.
      Nothing really exciting, mostly just pouring water on the cargotainers to keep them cool while plans were made on how to get to the fire itself. The most excitement I saw was when a Korean firefighter tried to bring an electric saw aboard to cut into containers. One of the guys in charge, a big, burly guy, lost it at this small Korean dude, grabbed the saw, and threw it across the deck.
      Fun times.
      Oh, and if you're ever interested in what the Navy Fire Fighting training video looks like, search for it here on CZcams: Learn Not To Burn. It has actual footage of the accident that led to the worst fire in US Naval history, the USS Forrestal.

  • @cermence3931
    @cermence3931 Před 7 měsíci +25

    0:10 Random Encounter after Random Encounter after Random Encounter after...
    4:40 Solution
    7:18 Running Crappy Naval Combat (rules should be concise, easy to pick up...)
    12:12 Not capitalizing on the Nautical Backdrop
    12:50 Examples of situations while sailing
    16:22 Fumbling Underwater Combat
    18:40 Tracking depth/height
    22:17 Having an empty World

    • @Skrighk
      @Skrighk Před 3 měsíci +2

      Bless you, may your seas be calm

  • @O4C209
    @O4C209 Před rokem +140

    Additional thing I did in my nautical campaign was treat the ship as a combo tavern/ home base.
    Just having a short role play section where food or Grog is handed out, or plans are discussed really brings the ship to life.

    • @twilightgardenspresentatio6384
      @twilightgardenspresentatio6384 Před rokem +22

      Player ships are home base, enemy ships are dungeon terrain

    • @inthefade
      @inthefade Před 4 měsíci

      Maybe it is a good idea to have the ship be run entirely by NPCs so that where the players want to go is a negotiation.

    • @oystersaucee_
      @oystersaucee_ Před 4 měsíci +1

      @@inthefade thats how ive been thinking, im prepping a game of 4 PC'S and im thinking 4 NPC's on the crew would be perfect, especially having the captain be an NPC at first so my players can earn/fumble their way into it

    • @ronly_driver
      @ronly_driver Před 3 dny

      Gonna be DMing a nautical for my party in the next few months(gotta finish the current adventure with our current DM) and all of us are very interested in pirate things(SoT, OP, etc) so I'm tryinf to make it very apparent that being a pirate on the sea won't come without danger(speccing out a bronze dragon and some lawmen for the inevitable early streak of murderhoboism) but since we have a 9 man party, I'm gonna have their positions on the crew based on stat combos, which I think will be interesting if a character that normally rushes into battle winds up in a position requiring tact and patience.
      Everybody is pumped for it, and I want to make something special for the crew regardless of how they decide to play it.

  • @sauce7670
    @sauce7670 Před rokem +38

    new DM here! and I decided I wanted to run a high seas campaign for my first game ever and its been a blast but I really had to develop my setting first. I made a "bermuda triangle" type area of the sea thats distorted by wild magic and its a place where the plains converge and all kinds of strange places and monsters and treasures can be found there. But I made sure that there was a large "hub city" where players can get a change of scenery away from the strange islands and situations out to sea and its amazing to me how much my players appreciate dry land after many sessions at sea so I make sure theres always something to do that develops the city and its characters. My irish satyr bar keeper is a sight for sore sea salted eyes for my group every time they return "home"

  • @michaelstowe2167
    @michaelstowe2167 Před rokem +26

    I'm running a Ghosts of Saltmarsh campaign right now, and I'm excited to report that it's going really well! I can definitely vouch for Luke's advice here! I've made some of these mistakes, and the game got much better once they were corrected.

  • @know-nothingmillennial3043

    I'm literally starting to make a nautical campaign this week so this was a crazy coincidence.

  • @MJ-jd7rs
    @MJ-jd7rs Před rokem +84

    If the group isn't getting horses, that means some combination of:
    1) You've made gold too scarce, they can't afford them.
    2) There's no time limit for the group, no 'running clock'. They can take however long they wish.
    3) You've vastly underestimated the travel distances between where they're at and where they need to be.

    • @Thenarratorofsecrets
      @Thenarratorofsecrets Před rokem +13

      4) they got windwalk

    • @theDMLair
      @theDMLair  Před rokem +44

      I feel like there are other reasons and possibilities besides it being the game master's fault.

    • @sebastianleiva9278
      @sebastianleiva9278 Před rokem +6

      Ive found that new groups arent proactive enough to do thing like that. Might be biased but even harvesting monster hasnt really been a thing in my groups. Sad

    • @sixoffcenter80
      @sixoffcenter80 Před rokem +4

      I've heard a bit of conflicting information on this, but from what I understand while horses are good for shortish bursts of speed, humans have better endurance so the two pretty much level out with a full day's travel.

    • @O4C209
      @O4C209 Před rokem +21

      5) The players don't realize that's an option.
      You'd be surprised at how often you'll have a surprised look from the players when you have an npc mention getting a ride.

  • @toddleatherman3431
    @toddleatherman3431 Před rokem +11

    I’m working on a nautical campaign which is also my first every time DMing. I don’t know if it’s a bad idea but I’m really excited. The king is hosting this great boat race and he’s rooting for my party. Wish them luck 😂

  • @xylonpesquera8605
    @xylonpesquera8605 Před rokem +36

    This is my favorite dnd CZcams channel. One of the few that doesn't swear so I can share the videos with my little sisters. These videos have helped my dming immensely.

    • @theDMLair
      @theDMLair  Před rokem +12

      Awesome, so happy to hear it! I avoid swearing 1) because I just don't talk that way in real life and 2) family friendly means the content is more accessible and appropriate for all audiences. I believe that in almost all cases, using adult language adds little value to content, whereas removing it does.

    • @barrysargent3104
      @barrysargent3104 Před rokem +2

      I agree completely. I run a campaign for my wife and 2 kids and DMLair is a channel I recommend to my son because he DMing a party of school friends. I just can't let them watch critical role or even GinnyDi. unfortunately she has been curaing on a regular basis. It might make her look cool to some people but that dont make it right.

    • @twilightgardenspresentatio6384
      @twilightgardenspresentatio6384 Před rokem +3

      I used to let my daughter watch Ginny Di but it gets adult in there. I like it, I just can’t share it.

    • @Sadew_Sadew
      @Sadew_Sadew Před rokem +1

      @@barrysargent3104 Not saying this is the situation between you and your daughter, but when I was a kid I learned to swear because it was one of the few ways to get adults to look at me as anything but a kid. Bad habit to get into. Could be worth asking her why she thinks it's necessary.

    • @barrysargent3104
      @barrysargent3104 Před rokem +1

      @@Sadew_Sadew I can see where you are coming from and that is some good advice for a parent but GinnyDi is a dnd CZcamsr, that I do enjoy her videos and I am subscribed. I just notices she has been more vulgar in her latest videos. But she is an adult and she has freedom. Taming the tongue is one of the hardest things to do. Thanks for your adviceSadew42? Are you 42 years old? I am.

  • @elfbait3774
    @elfbait3774 Před rokem +15

    Lots of good advice.
    I would add to this that leaning into the cliches on this one is a good thing. Most people coming to a nautical campaign have various pirate movies in mind first and foremost with Sinbad and Jason the Argonauts being somewhere in there with a smattering of Hornblower, Mutiny on the Bounter, and Master and Commander. Regardless, mine every last ocean=going story you can.
    Nautical campaigns are perfect places for spooky coastal mansion, Lovecraftian horror, pirate shenanigans, curses, superstitions and everything in between.
    I run a campaign I call Vagabond Seas and have peppered it with strange races, interesting NPCs and organizations. A lot can be achieved by setting up interesting places and characters just like any other campaign. We had new and interesting games of chance, we had nautical-themes minor magic items like the Dead Man's Maw or Sea Charms. Also having your setting dotted with old ruins and local sea peoples is a good way to establish this as different from your normal land campaign. One of my players, of islander descent himself, wanted to make a character from a group of sea-dwelling, Polynesian-themed orcs. He used the half-orc stats and suddenly I had a whole new culture in my game. I also included the monkey goblins from one of the MtG crossovers as an exotic race and gave them the underlying story arc that nobody knew where they came from, not even them and they just sort of showed up in the area.

    • @Seraphina-Rose
      @Seraphina-Rose Před rokem +2

      I agree about leaning in to the stereotypes the players likely have. Pirates of the Caribbean has my group hyped!

    • @minnion2871
      @minnion2871 Před rokem +5

      Don't forget the occasional derelict ship dungeon, that may or may not be haunted by undead.... Or heck have a shadow on their ship picking off the crew one by one and making more shadows until either everyone is dead, the shadows have been purged from the ship, or the survivors hop in a life-raft and burn the ship...
      Maybe give the players a map with a bunch of islands dotted on it, not all of them are labled and ask them.... Where do you want to sail to? (And maybe use a pawn to keep track of where the ship is on the map... or a marker to draw their course as they explore....

    • @elfbait3774
      @elfbait3774 Před rokem

      @@minnion2871 the list really does go on and on. There is plenty to have happen on and off the waves

  • @beverleybee1309
    @beverleybee1309 Před 4 měsíci +2

    A random piece of trivia, the hunchback of Notre Dame was written as a means of getting the building declared an historic monument. So, the cathedral was actually a main character in the story.
    The weird things to know when DMing. 😉

  • @sleepinggiant4062
    @sleepinggiant4062 Před rokem +5

    Ships make great mobile headquarters. I remember the Pirates of Dark Water cartoon, and always wanted to try and capture that in a D&D campaign.

    • @Trenell83
      @Trenell83 Před rokem +2

      I gotta give you a like on the Pirates of Dark Water. I still need to see the end since they never finished it and it might be an underrated cartoon series.

    • @Raycheetah
      @Raycheetah Před rokem +2

      There was actually a Pirates of Dark Water RPG released in the '90s. I doubt copies are easy to come by, but an online search might turn something up. =^[.]^=

  • @michaellove784
    @michaellove784 Před rokem +4

    You can buy small, colored mosaic tiles made of plastic from craft stores that perfectly fit in a battle grid. Each one counts as 5 ft off the ground and you can even glue some together so you're not knocking over squares. Every time someone tries to move a mini. We've used these for years and they've been super effective.

  • @UberHypnotoad
    @UberHypnotoad Před 3 měsíci +1

    I have two lists in my nautical campaign: Events and places. Places are permanent locations with NPCs, loot, quests, rest, trade, etc. Events are more fungible on the map but may include, large changes in weather, encounters with either creatures or factions, lost floating items, or even a place that can only be found by chance because it moves (floating fishing town, giant island sea turtle, magical islands that only appear under specific conditions, ghost ships, etc.)
    With lots of content and places to stick plot hooks, hopefully my players don’t feel too restricted or bored. I also mixed in some obvious long term side quests if they choose to follow them (treasure maps, dragon balls, partial plans for a new type of ship that needs to be jig-sawed together, etc.)

  • @mohawkgunsmith7569
    @mohawkgunsmith7569 Před rokem +10

    This episode and DM magazine has come at the absolute perfect time!!! I’m currently writing a fantasy steampunk campaign with floating worlds that the players can sail to, I’m going for a Treasure Planet feel with the flying ships. Can’t wait to go get the magazine!

    • @theophrastusbombastus1359
      @theophrastusbombastus1359 Před rokem +2

      Have you played Skies of Arcadia before? That's a treasure trove waiting to be mined for ideas on a nautical campaign

    • @mohawkgunsmith7569
      @mohawkgunsmith7569 Před rokem +1

      @@theophrastusbombastus1359 I haven’t, I’ll check it out thank you!

  • @EilonwyG
    @EilonwyG Před rokem +6

    I am always looking for more Nautical adventure content. My world is an island world with vast oceans and complex underwater civilizations. This is absolutely perfect for me. Great advice!

  • @kyleward3914
    @kyleward3914 Před rokem +3

    My campaign world is a giant ocean with islands, no continents. The fun thing about an island is that it can be a completely isolated location. Just like real-world islands are often home to unique creatures found nowhere else (see Madagascar or Australia, for example), an island in game can have odd monsters without it necessarily having to affect the rest of the world. I've put some things I wasn't sure whether I wanted in my world on one island somewhere just to try using them.

  • @Mr_GoR_
    @Mr_GoR_ Před rokem +6

    I thought that Bludgeoning and Slashing all having disadvantage underwater *WAS* the rule... there's just a list of Piercing weapons and a note "These attack as normal" ? 😆

  • @megaairsoft15
    @megaairsoft15 Před rokem +5

    Depending on your surroundings even darkvision can be less than helpful in the midnight zone. Imagine there being no terrain cause you’re diving down, grayscale doesn’t do much to help if there’s nothing to see. Still dark and terrifying, especially if they’re the first ones to see the giant set of jaws coming right for the group

  • @aaron2923
    @aaron2923 Před 25 dny

    I am in the process of writing a nautical campaign and This has helped greatly, thank you!

  • @KermodeBear
    @KermodeBear Před rokem +6

    The biggest mistake I've ever experienced during a nautical campaign was the DM being very, very, very proud of his weather and sailing simulation system.
    We sat there for about two hours doing absolutely nothing while he rolled dice and told us what the weather was that day and if we were on course.

  • @cmorales018
    @cmorales018 Před rokem +2

    I’m making my first Pirate campaign now and this made me realize that as prepared as I thought I was I have sooo much more I can bring now!

  • @357Dejavu
    @357Dejavu Před rokem +4

    I have had a few of these issues with my ship based game in 5e. I am planning an airship based game some time next year and I hope to avoid some of my previous mistakes.

    • @haiku_king
      @haiku_king Před rokem +1

      Mind sharing your mistakes? I wanna start one now :)

    • @357Dejavu
      @357Dejavu Před rokem +2

      @@haiku_king mostly making things too complicated. I think the thing that worked the best is still allowing the players to do there actions but make the ship give them “lair” actions on the ships turn. The lair actions are things like steering the ship or firing the cannon. The only rule is that to do that “lair” actions you have to be with in 5 feet the thing thing you are using (cannon, wheel, rigging).
      This is helps players have more things to do rather than less when running a ship, they can still cast spells and fight and such just they get more to do on the ship…. Down side is it does slow it down.

    • @haiku_king
      @haiku_king Před rokem +1

      @@357Dejavu thanks! Any advice for exploration and wordbuilding? Making an entire world full of islands sounds very overwhelming

    • @357Dejavu
      @357Dejavu Před rokem +1

      @@haiku_king I tend to build as I go. If I have an adventure planned in a swamp then the next island they find would be swampy. It does not mater which way they go.
      I do put it on the map though so if they sail back to a place they have already been then I do need to plan a little more. I tend to make a 1-2 sentence note about how they left an area when the party leaves.

  • @Lazycandle
    @Lazycandle Před rokem +1

    For keeping track of three d movement in water you could use poker chips of a type of color just stack them
    Red for above 0 height
    Blue for below 0 height
    Each is the equivalent of five feet

  • @OrKkTeKk
    @OrKkTeKk Před 2 měsíci

    I play a lot of 7th sea, for ship combat I have each player make a single die check based on there position. i.e. leadership check, gunner check, etc... then I use that to run the entire thing cinematicly until the ships meet. Afterwards the boarding becomes a standard map based combat scenario.
    My players love it and ship combat becomes a lot less cumbersome.

  • @danickiminajjjj1179
    @danickiminajjjj1179 Před rokem +1

    Im doing my first ever campaign as DM, and i decided on an ocean world with tons of tropical islands. I have five players joining and the finale battle planned out. Here to avoid classic mistakes, so thanks for this video.

  • @Jdude217
    @Jdude217 Před 3 měsíci

    It is a very rare yet very satisfying thing when I have somehow by complete happenstance not fallen victim of any of the things on a list like this. Thank you, as I now know to actively avoid those scenarios as well.

  • @ronly_driver
    @ronly_driver Před 5 dny

    Am currently designing a sea campaign for my party, I'm building very basic bones for about a dozen islands that the party can choose to go to(geography, population/society/kingdom,a few choices for monsters/villains).
    There will be random encounters, but I want to focus more on the crew keeping the ship intact than trying to kill them at sea before they can get to an island that I'm legitimately building from scratch.
    We're currently in the middle of our first module as a party, so I have at least 2 more months before I have to put on the crown and take us to sea.

  • @nathanrumm9092
    @nathanrumm9092 Před rokem +1

    Actually made all the newbie DM mistakes in 1st campaign built my own world ran a nautical campaign with making some of these mistakes in early sessions. Now a year in much better.
    I learned quickly you want land and sea so I expanded the size of islands they would travel to instead of being small 2-3 mile islands some are 40-50 miles with 2-3 towns so the party now spends a couple sessions on an island then goes back to sea. That simple adjustment made it much more enjoyable all around.
    Great video wish I had it 18 months ago lol

  • @rjmichael01
    @rjmichael01 Před rokem +1

    We have electrical damage like lightning do aoe damage with submerged and for height on the flying or swimming we use the pizza tables because they stack nice and fit on the maps well each table we use as 10’ elevation

  • @Xingmey
    @Xingmey Před měsícem +1

    Ships are there to get you from point a to b.
    So use them as such and have point a and b. And maybe a location in between.
    The best part is that you can switch settings, aka cultures if needed.
    Want western european today? Tomorrow ,oure in india etc.
    Thats the beauty and versatility

  • @sam7559
    @sam7559 Před rokem

    2:34 legit I'm in a campaign that after our original plan of just hike though a mountain range instead of going around was foiled by the fact that a ancient white dragon exist, we stopped by a town a bought horses and a carriage for the travel by road around the mountains. It was something I brought up to do especially since I doubt a wizard would actually like walking by foot for 3 weeks to the destination given the party was level 3

  • @jlogs9967
    @jlogs9967 Před 6 měsíci

    With the whole fire spells underwater thing I love to flavor it as boiling water or steam. A fireball is a big orb of boiling water that scorches everything it touches

  • @mabbott093
    @mabbott093 Před rokem +1

    This comes in at the perfect time, I am about to run a nautical campaign in a couple weeks.Thanks GM Lair!

  • @pintobean4858
    @pintobean4858 Před rokem +2

    Hey, glad to be here. I had a game that failed that was nautical themed, which fell flat 😂 nice to get some tips, thank you!

  • @Buttonpusher42
    @Buttonpusher42 Před rokem +1

    Love the video. Seafaring campaigns are one of my favorite settings, now i think i want to send my story adrift for a couple sessions to take advantage of new plot ideas.
    Just a note about Hunchback of Notre Dame though... the book was written with the intent to celebrate the architecture design and beauty of the cathedral, because it was in disrepair and the best way to get funding is to attach a story that rich benefactors might like. Kind of worked too.

  • @martinpat94
    @martinpat94 Před rokem +2

    So I think that this advice could also be used with the new Spelljammer stuff as it is just a nautical adventure in “space”. Also as for the 3D maneuvering I had an idea to have a separate grid off to the side that indicates the height of each creature, but I haven’t had the chance to use it so I’m not sure how effect of easy it would be to implement.

  • @RIVERSRPGChannel
    @RIVERSRPGChannel Před rokem +3

    That’s funny, I just ran a session last weekend and they fought a kraken. The kraken was after them because they disturbed him using an earthquake spell on an island

  • @cheetor1987
    @cheetor1987 Před 8 měsíci

    Our group use horses all of the time, and we keep on getting them killed. It was a milestone for us when we had no deaths of the equestrian sort after traveling to an area.
    One time we had a character Yoshie sacrifice his horse.

  • @mikelane4005
    @mikelane4005 Před rokem +1

    A "Random Points of Interest" video would be amazing. I despise and usually avoid caravans and such like the one in "Hoard of the Dragon Queen" because I'm unsure how to make them interesting.

  • @walkergamble4504
    @walkergamble4504 Před 11 měsíci

    The rules for naval combat in the 3.5 dnd book storm wrack is fairly straightforward and easy to convert

  • @corsaircaruso471
    @corsaircaruso471 Před 6 měsíci

    I’ve been trolling around youtube for videos on Naval Campaigns, as I’m going to be including both naval and underwater content in my upcoming game. Thanks so much for the great advice!

  • @oniminikui
    @oniminikui Před rokem +1

    I don't have horses in my campaigns. Instead, I use riding birds (Axebeak stat block, but less aggressive).
    In one of my old D&D groups, we were playing 3.5. I was in the process of trying a new mechanic, where the characters would teleport back and forth from 2 different realities; one being D&D and the other being MURPG (Marvel Universe Role-Playing Game). Except the MURPG wasn't the marvel universe. I had books of NPCs, that I was going to use.

  • @Leniathan
    @Leniathan Před rokem +1

    A video on your points of interest system would be nice 👍

  • @valeri0n38
    @valeri0n38 Před rokem +1

    A minor gripe... It's not Boat-SWAIN. It's Bo'sun.
    As a Boatswain's Mate in the Navy for 20 years it kinda, sorta grates my nerves. But, I also understand because you might not have had any experience with that.

  • @ajdynon
    @ajdynon Před rokem +1

    That Star Trek game you described sounds like “Star Fleet Battles”.

    • @Raycheetah
      @Raycheetah Před rokem

      SFB was a war game, not an RPG (though, as in so many cases, Task Force Games also released an SFB universe RPG). =^[.]^=

    • @ajdynon
      @ajdynon Před rokem

      @@Raycheetah True, but from what was said it sounded like the game wasn’t necessarily an RPG. OTOH, from what I know some of the Star Trek RPGs have been pretty complex too. (Edit: In fact, now that I think of it, I vaguely recall hearing that Prime Directive was set in the SFB Universe. Never played it, so I could be wrong though)

  • @mohawkgunsmith7569
    @mohawkgunsmith7569 Před rokem

    Also got a say you videos have been monumental in my progression as a DM from complete fumbling bumble jack to a fairly competent Wonder joe. THANK YOU!

  • @danielpayne1597
    @danielpayne1597 Před rokem

    This is so timely! I've been working on my own system, except instead of for a nautical adventure, it's in space. I'll create random encounter tables but take Luke's words of advice to heart and also have planned events to ensure things stay interesting.

  • @Kirrand
    @Kirrand Před rokem +1

    I love running nautical games, the 3D combat is so fun to run. I am currently running a 3rd Pirate campaign that I have run over the last decade, I always end up with a waiting list for players because my table fills very quickly when I run these games.

  • @eliinthewolverinestate6729
    @eliinthewolverinestate6729 Před 7 měsíci

    We usually have horses and a wagon or cart. Which the wagon and cart with fire suppression have been destroyed in random encounters. They have been stolen and even some horses too.

  • @jamesg9840
    @jamesg9840 Před rokem

    Random encounters just strung together, dude that’s my daily life.

  • @JadeyCatgirl99
    @JadeyCatgirl99 Před rokem

    I had a nautical portion of the adventure I am running last Summer. The players got an old boat from a Duke, and were searching for an island with a dungeon on it. I made a grid with 64 charts, and different events on each chart. They were given an unlabeled chart to make notes on. That was great for a while in game, but doing a whole campaign of that would not have been fun.
    For the naval combat, the Monk jumped from their boat to the enemy's to attack. It was a really cool battle.

  • @gamersgamestorm8291
    @gamersgamestorm8291 Před rokem

    Thanks for the tips
    I’m running a Pirate Campaign soon so these are good tips. I was planning on doing most of these, but they are very useful advice. I never thought of having a fire on the ship.

  • @alexisartfeild2807
    @alexisartfeild2807 Před rokem

    Currently running a campaign where the 'world' map is an archipelago. The ocean travel bits are often just that, travel to the next POI in an effort to move forward the over arching plot. And planning travel is important as the rest of world does NOT remain static waiting for the PCs to show up.
    Each day, my players make a navigation check which may speed or slow their travel progress. And a single encounter roll, options include: monster battle (if spotted ahead of time a skill challenge to avoid available), weather event (good or bad), a chance at obtaining a consumable resource, other travelers, or something just plain Weird.

  • @genearmstrong9974
    @genearmstrong9974 Před rokem +1

    We demand a video on your Point of Interest System!

  • @angrytheclown801
    @angrytheclown801 Před 7 měsíci

    I think if all every random encounter you're running has to be combat in a pirate adventure then you're not using your imagination. In this case especially, encounters can be events. Marooned sailors, friendly merchants, islands based off the gallapagos, even treasure maps in bottles. If you must and you should must, random weather events. No pirate or privateer ship should be just wandering around, that's begging to run out of supplies.
    And I would suggest poker chips or glass beads for depth. Anyone in melee can fight within one difference of depth, and each ranged attack has to deal with an additional 5 foot increment based on those chips. Player A has 2 chips up, Player B has 3 down, A is below B so there is no real difference, ranged is normal but if A has a difference of 1, that takes away 5 feet from range.

  • @cliffwarden5934
    @cliffwarden5934 Před rokem

    I'm running a campaign with a lot of boat travel, but its not the primary story element. The group managed to stumble into a quest line that they WOULD NOT give up on despite being balanced for later in the game. through sheer perseverance and a few very lucky rolls talking to some dangerous wizards, they managed to get a ship that was enchanted to sail itself. So unless they have something to do with the passengers they might be carrying, I usually just have them roll daily travel checks on a roll table I made myself to see if anything interesting happens or if they got sped up or slowed down by the weather.

  • @aarongarrett6271
    @aarongarrett6271 Před rokem

    love it. recommendation for depth for battles. for those that use minis - there are many products the basically together that create elevated platforms. it gives a nice visual and creates visual perspective. they are usually clear plastic so it does not interfere visually with battle maps

  • @joeallen7981
    @joeallen7981 Před rokem

    I'm running a pirate campaign and the rules in Salt Marshes suck!
    We started with the players being passengers and ship to ship combat happened in the background until someone wanted to take command of a cannon then I just let them shoot a few times but didn't change my plan. The characters got in the action when the pirates boarded our ship.
    Then they wanted to buy their own ship so I had to come up with ship prices and crew wages.
    But no they wanted to custom build their own ship and spend more money on making it faster.
    So I had to come up with basically slots where they could trade off things like speed for durability, or number of cannons for cargo space, etc.
    Then they wanted to do the crew stuff themselves so I had to come up with tasks and challenges like climb and seamanship checks to raise or lower a sail in two rounds so the ship can turn 90 degrees to get guns on the enemy before they shot a volley at our unprotected stern.
    Now I basically have an entire source book on nautical rules.
    At least I had fun learning a tone of stuff about the age of sail.

  • @jeanvelezroman852
    @jeanvelezroman852 Před rokem

    Just found this channel thanks to this video. It's definitely worth watching if you're building a nautical campaign or a campaign that has ocean elements to it. I'm going to be using a lot of your stuff😅 Thanks for this!

  • @creterb2659
    @creterb2659 Před rokem

    I found this perfectly when I was looking for some tips on running a pirate campaign it is a mix of Greek and fantasy style similar to simbad in greek style but I wanted to have unique interactions than just
    "Oh siren attack" or "oh bad guy ship"
    Because of this I got ideas of using Charybdis a monster which is made to pull ships in to shred them to bits and as well having a mutiny that ends with the ship catching on fire

  • @AflacMan13
    @AflacMan13 Před rokem +1

    What about this? A Nautical Campaign... but the PC's have been cursed as a ship crew. The curse states that they must never stray more than 1/4 of a mile from their ship, and may only step on land for no more than 1 hour at a time, or the curse will get worse, and they will be more deformed and take on various penalties.
    Then, as they progress in levels (Milestone will probably be best here) at say 4th, 9th, 14th, and 19th level, the curse's range and time on land increase exponentially, as they get stronger they can resist the curse better and better. At 4th it becomes a 1/2 mile and 2 hours. At 9th it becomes 1 mile and 4 hours. At 14th it becomes 2 miles and 8 hours, at 19th it becomes 4 miles and 16 hours. Then, if they manage to reach level 20, they finally discover that they are strong enough to finally break the curse, but then a good aligned deity shows up and shouts for them to stop just before they are able to break it, telling them that the only thing stopping the BBEG from being released from its eternal imprisonment is them staying cursed for all eternity. If they break it, the BBEG is released. If they keep it, they are cursed to their ship for the rest of eternity, but they become immortals. Buuut... the only way to be free of the curse AND defeat the BBEG and ACTUALLY save the world... is to break the curse and release it, and then destroy the BBEG. And the BBEG is slowly corrupting the known universe, by drawing the Far Realm closer and closer towards the Prime Material Plane. the forces of Good are barely able to keep the BBEG's influence and pull at bay, but they are fighting a stalemate battle as the BBEG finds little ways to break through their protective barriers every so often, and the Good forces are not sure if they can keep it up forever. So, the only way to *ensure* the universe is *actually* saved, is to destroy said BBEG, but they have to release it to destroy it, and the only way to do that is to break the curse, but if they fail... they doom the universe forever.
    Thoughts?

    • @IvanBarsch
      @IvanBarsch Před rokem

      If you ever do this game I want to play in it

  • @valeri0n38
    @valeri0n38 Před rokem

    Since I finally got a chance to finish watching I realized I had one other tiny little gripe. And that was when you said that it would be boring to be sailing in the middle of the ocean with nothing to do and there should be *things* to go do.
    There are times when I wished we could have had an adventure to do while floating in the middle of the ocean because it IS boring.
    BUT! The good thing is that this is D&D! And I don't have to run an adventure that's completely boring.

  • @whitevii1533
    @whitevii1533 Před 11 měsíci

    As someone running Spelljammer 5e this is all highly relevant and very useful, thank you

  • @gongyooho7312
    @gongyooho7312 Před rokem

    i completely built an entire world and premise for my players to explore and story that changes the surrounds and town. it was set in saltmarsh and i made it a sand box but my party opted for random encounter after random encounter swords for hire route
    lol

  • @BobcatWolfenstein
    @BobcatWolfenstein Před 9 měsíci

    This might sound a bit ridiculous but I've been thinking about ways to recreate the battle room from Ender's Game as a ttrpg. 0G 3d battle map with goals, obstacles/cover and basically just a generic ranged freeze ray skill

  • @Seraphina-Rose
    @Seraphina-Rose Před rokem

    This, and the new Maritime issue of Lair magazine, are a timely help. I'm prepping to run Saltmarsh in January, and need adventures to fill the gaps in the campaign. The encounter's in Lair are great, and I'll probably use bits from the three adventures in it too.

  • @yaboi3710
    @yaboi3710 Před 9 měsíci

    I pick horses all the time, usually along side a cart too so i can carry stuff around. Feels more immersive

  • @AcurelyObtuse
    @AcurelyObtuse Před rokem

    Id add to the weapons underwater have disadvantage is that thusting weapons dont have disadvantage.
    Using a bow or similar projectile weapons have massive disadvantage in that past a certain range it completely fails! Something like 10 feet, but a gun IRL loses all momentum almost immediately (favorite John Wick moment) so a bow just shouldnt work at all.

  • @BenjaminDaniello
    @BenjaminDaniello Před rokem

    Hey DM Lair, thanks for this video, im currently making my own homebrew campaign and this is perfect for my prep 😁❤️😊

  • @liamjones8122
    @liamjones8122 Před rokem

    loved this vid i am a DM And am planing a Nautical campaign and this gave my so maney good ides

  • @KermodeBear
    @KermodeBear Před rokem

    A fireball may not have as much of a fiery effect, but water does not compress very well. The shockwave from the explosion might be nasty.

  • @rebeccabielow3176
    @rebeccabielow3176 Před rokem

    My current campaigns play in ancient Greece so we are travelling both land and sea. My lvl 5 group just discovered a frozen island in the middle of summer and in the middle of the mediteranen. It´s a fun adventure that after working on it and playing with a different group now even ties in with the major story. But it can also just be a fun adventure to plug into any sea. Everything is frozen, the reason is a bheur hag that is holding the island hostage. You can add a lot of fun things into this premise :)

  • @smokedbeefandcheese4144

    So far in every game I’ve been in. The adventuring party has had a cart and some means to pull it.

  • @mcscrubington3120
    @mcscrubington3120 Před rokem

    You used to be a missionary? I would have never guessed that. Also thanks for the advice, I just started a pirate game and you've made very good points.

  • @geckoram6286
    @geckoram6286 Před rokem

    I had my first game with a new group and we went from a cyberpunk secret government agency to buying a ship for 150 gold, and my table is so excited about a pirate adventure that I think I'll just make a nautical campaign. This video was really helpful on what to avoid, thanks

  • @JaketheEmpoleon
    @JaketheEmpoleon Před rokem

    Running saltmarsh rn, Ty for the help

  • @duttdits
    @duttdits Před 9 měsíci

    In underwater combat, I'd have players move in 15 ft zones, and instead of using a battlemap, I'd use theater of the mind. Just note everyone's zone xyz+/- from zone xyz-0

  • @derekstein6193
    @derekstein6193 Před rokem

    An idea for tracking height/depth of characters in combat:
    Take a cheap dowel and glue it vertically to a sturdy base.
    Cut out squares/rectangles from cereal boxes or the like.
    Glue those pieces of cardboard (inside surface facing you) to the side of clothespins.
    Cover those pieces of cardboard with masking tape (or any other with a slick surface) to make a wet-erase surface.
    You can now write with a wet-erase marker the names of PCs and creatures on those modified clothespins, including their height/depth. Clip them onto the dowel so that the labeled side faces everyone, making sure that those that are higher in altitude are higher on the dowel. This should give at a glance a visual means of comparing creature locations relative to each other. Maybe even clip all PCs and friendly npcs to one side, and enemies on the other to help keep track of friend and foe.
    For extra utility, paint one vertical side of the dowel with a few colored bands. That side can face players when you need to represent what floor/area of the ship every creature is on. Have the highest band represent the rigging/sails, the one below being the deck, the next being below deck, and the last being overboard.
    A bonus for this is that it should be cheap to make if you go to a dollar store for materials, or use some otherwise useless miscellane that is just sitting around being unused.

  • @christophercassidy-schroed9169

    As a brand new potential DM a points of Interest video would be great

  • @Dragondan1987
    @Dragondan1987 Před rokem

    We use horses for travel, but get off them before any battle since horses basically get one shot after like level 3, so they are almost useless. Which sucks because I tried to do a horseman my first like 3 games before I gave up on it.

  • @trioofone8911
    @trioofone8911 Před rokem

    Would that "points of interest" thing be another name for the thing called a "point crawl"?

  • @risw.3821
    @risw.3821 Před rokem

    My little brother and SIX of his friends want me to DM a nautical pirate game. Ive never DM'd for a party above 4 or 5. So I'm plenty nervous because I'm very out of my depth with not only it being a table of teenage boys, but also the player count, and campaign type. This video helped a ton!

  • @tista42
    @tista42 Před 9 měsíci

    My party are on their 3rd set of horses they keep losing them or getting them killed. One the scraficed to a chimera to distract it so they can sneak up on it

  • @AvenueStudios
    @AvenueStudios Před rokem

    Haha was literally talking last night about running a nautical campaign sometime soon! Good timing thank you!
    -Dan

  • @Kirrand
    @Kirrand Před rokem

    Fire spells under water still work because magic... Pathfinder turns it into steam for damage and a steep concentration check for casting them under water unless you can breathe water.

  • @benhaney9629
    @benhaney9629 Před 11 měsíci

    Not enough horses. Hell not enough traveling supplies in general. Imo. Before and on each long journey the PCs should play at least a little bit of Oregon Trail. Food, forage, maybe wagons depending and if wagons then horses and oxen to pull them. Depending on how detailed you want to get extra yokes and wagon wheels. Expands the economy of the game greatly and it’s just another thing to talk about and plan.

  • @rainey82
    @rainey82 Před rokem +1

    Alternatives to combat during travel would be great!

    • @Seraphina-Rose
      @Seraphina-Rose Před rokem +2

      I love peppering non-combat encounter's into my game.
      I'm going to have my group seek out an NPC marid in his coral fortress, the father of our water genasi, a tie-in to her backstory, who has info they'll need. I'm also going to have them encounter a patrol of merfolk on giant seahorses and learn more about the sahuagin threat. And to sneak some dragon in, they're going to meet a bronze dragon who's bored and wants to swap stories and be entertained.

  • @Ridliman
    @Ridliman Před rokem

    The first pitfall is literally the plot of Star Trek TOS and TNG.
    About the horses thing you said, we have a Horse, only one, pulling our cart to bring us to all our adventures but that gracious creature never complains... mainly because it's a esqueleton horse we found in our first adventure.
    In fact, we are now very scared because in the last session we finally destroyed the very thing that was causing the zombie infestation in the zone and we are dreading about if the horse died too when we killed the final boss.

  • @crashcitygames1592
    @crashcitygames1592 Před rokem +1

    Your Star Trek game may have been Star Fleet Battles. Does that sound right?

  • @Darkestcatlol
    @Darkestcatlol Před rokem

    I’m running strahd and I started it with a group of well established adventures going to a calmer city to relax, I remember saying they were walking or on horse back when the road ended, nothing but trees, i narrate them going in as you can’t not go into berovia in curse of strahd and one player wanted to keep there horse, but I didn’t want to so I brushed it off and said that the group didn’t have horses. Very minor situations as no one really cared about keeping the horses.
    Also people start games with some establishment in the group, I can’t stress how bad it feels to play as a player and want to do a “you are my friends” but then get blocked by “we are strangers” for the first 3-10 sessions, I had a barbarian that had a murderer twist like “I’m a good guy now” but due to the barbarian and mystery characters everyone built this anti trust system that ruined the relationship I wanted to build.
    A lot of games don’t role play minute moments so if you start a game with a bit of relationships your players have more say on how they interact with each other.
    Rant over nice vid

  • @TalasBlue
    @TalasBlue Před 11 měsíci

    Cam you do one on airships now, im having to cknvert a lot of ship stuff to airships for a campaign

  • @simon1847
    @simon1847 Před rokem

    Really awesome content! Some great ideas and really a great inspiration for naval campaign creation!

  • @cadenceclearwater4340
    @cadenceclearwater4340 Před rokem +1

    Diagonal movement is faster.
    That's why ninjas always run that way.

  • @justinweatherford8129

    Not that anyone would actually do so, but filling an aquarium with clear gelatin or gelatin like substance might also be useful for an aquatic map.

  • @dcast781227
    @dcast781227 Před rokem

    Came here after watching the trailer for the last voyage of the Demeter! So many ideas and I wanna make sure I run it really well!!

  • @kulkankulkan1539
    @kulkankulkan1539 Před rokem

    What is about armor under water?
    Are u slower then the other?
    Do u sink down and down ect?

  • @PowersOfDarkness
    @PowersOfDarkness Před 3 měsíci

    on your first point, One Piece might be inspiration to use, as its naval, they are pirates, but most of the adventuring happens on various islands.

  • @ajdynon
    @ajdynon Před rokem

    I have a campaign in the back of my mind inspired by Django Wexler's "Wells of Sorcery" series, starting with the PCs being imprisoned on a mysterious, self-sailing prison ship and told they'll be pardoned if they can figure out a way to control the ship and hand it over to the country that imprisoned them. (Of course, being PCs they're more likely to take control of the ship themselves...)