living in the northeast, Nokian Hakkapeliitta tires are the best snow tires you will ever buy. ive used a few of them on multiple vehicles. My Evo was a beast in the snow with them. Wife's Honda Pilot same result. Im not surprised you love their offroad tires.
Oh yea man. I had no idea. I guess these are the next evolution. The type of Tyres your used to mixed with armor for desert running and toughness. Basically took the performance of the standard tires and made them tougher. Thank you for your input
Just wanted to say thanks for this video..... may sound a bit cheesy, but the instructions and tips you shared help give me the confidence to take the plunge and do a bit of trimming and I am very pleased with the result. Thanks again.
Hell yea man thanks. I know been the self imposed victim of a lot of diy projects that are made to sound easy and videos that aren’t honest about mistakes. Don’t worry about being cheesy. That’s exactly the results we were looking for. More helpful than glamours every time
Dude I never really thought about cutting the metal and then heating the flare-up to make it so it has a factory look the AEV kit that is out there in my opinion looks super cheesy!
Nokians are good but if you ever decide to go bigger and want a good sticky tires, I have ran milestar patagonia mt’s and they are excellent in ever terrain very quiet on the road to. I was at Moab with them a couple months ago and even without airing down they were very grippy and didn’t slip once on the rocks. I did hells revenge, Kane creek and poison spider.
Nice. Yea plenty of sets to compare grip with. I’m impressed by the side walls though. For desert running nothing really exist yet than can be comparable in under a 37” tire size
There are some after market fenders that allow 35’s. I’ve seen one person running 37’s just by trimming the stock fenders, taking a hammer to the body mounts etc.
I’m liking the idea of the stock rims and 32” more and more.😂 Who makes a wheel with the same specs as stock? I just want some sweet bronze rims. I didn’t think to research AEV wheel specs as I thought they would fit with no trim - 31 or 32.
I think I would rather do a 1" level and some minor plastic trimming to fit 33's. Watching you cut fenders is painful. I guess this was probably a cake-walk after cutting to instal the AEV snorkel though.
Lol. It’s mandatory for me. I refuse to do a lift because o want to preserve or improve the center of gravity. Rather trim sheet metal than end up on my side trying to drift lol. But yea the snorkel was worse.
Do full size trucks have bigger wheel wells? Maybe we could cut the fenders the same size as the full size and use the plastic around a full size truck to make a perfect fit without the heat gun? I mean if they are bigger I don't even know if that would work or if they are completely different
The thing is that it’s not really worth it. All you wed to trim is in that section. Proof of concept zr2 had 33 inch tires. The location of that single tab forced it to go to 31. So no need to trim any more than that
It looks like those plastic pieces that are used to hold the tabs are “soldered” on to the fender flares. I did the same and one came partly loose. They have those little holes all over the place and I believe they were melded with heat to the fender flares... I used a solder gun and “re-attached” it. Not pretty, but seems sold.
Great video. Best trimming info out there by far. What's the actual size of those tires? I'm getting new wheels and I cant decide on tire size. Debating between 265/70r17 or 275/70r17. I'm thinking the 265s wont cause any rubbing but the 275s might.
They are 265 70r15. With aftermarket wheels. After trimming I get no rubbing and can fully tuck them. The rear barely touches under extreme articulation so yea 275 might need some stiffer coils or a perch or leveling kit
@@420motors damn. Good to know. I do have a 1" leveling kit but maybe I'll just stick with the 265's anyway. If I'm being honest I'm still a little chicken to trim
Lol. Yea man I don’t blame you. The offset on my wheels is what made me do it. Even if I kept the stock tires I needed to trim just to maintain full steering
@@420motors Damn. I've been planning to get the Crestones from AEV but didn't realize they'd cause rubbing even on stock tire size. Glad you put that out there.
All offsets will. So any wheel you go with unless you custom order stock dimensions you will get rubbing. But originally I didn’t. Had 95% used tires up front and brand new in the rear. When I rotated them is when the rubbing started. So it’s only a temporary problem.
theres no way id hack out the fenders on my new truck to fit a 1 inch taller tire... there's got to be a affordable lift out there that would allow for 33's to stuff in there. im waiting on my 2022 zr2
Your not wrong. And depending on use you might be able to get more gains. If you abuse the truck your gotta do more practical mods though. It is a minimal lift as you said but for performance reasons. Don’t want to throw off balance too much. I like sliding around a lot so don’t want bigger tires than 32. But plenty of people looking to stuff much bigger tires. Honestly depends how you like to drive. Would be higher and bigger tires if I liked crawling more but I tend to avoid that. I just like driving fast in corners and jumping so build it to that.
Lmao. He might be on a road trip. And yea I love them. But I am conflicted. For crawling and desert running they are amazing. On the dirt tracks at cal city though they aren’t very fast. Not designed for lateral grip. Need softer tires for that. But soft tires aren’t tough. So in zr2 size because of lack of options they are amazing tires. Once you get to 37’s and bigger I would have to go with bfg kr3’s. But that’s a race tire and not street legal so says a lot about the nokian tires actually
Lol. Take them off. They don’t really do much. If you like drifting though or donuts they do offer some paint protection from sand blasting your sides with dirt and sand. That’s about it
Any performance lost from the heavier tire? Thinking of getting that same tire but it weighs a solid 10 lbs over stock. Maybe I'm overthinking this lol
No performance lost, we highly recommended them. Dollar for dollar some of the best on the market; they really have no equal in their price range. And, they're not made in China!
Lol yea the guard still has a small flair. On hot days it’s flush and as cools off the little bulge comes back. It doesn’t bother me but some double sided 3m tape would fix that if it drives you crazy
@@420motors It kept hunting at 55 to 60 mph and felt like you were riding the fog line. It was down 30 days while gm engineering figured out what to do.
Yea. But the back isn’t as critical as the front. Don’t think it would need to with stock wheels though. With aftermarket wheels definitely needs some trimming
Damn...you're rubbing with stock tires? Come on @Chevy, give is a little more room! You know that everyone is going to want to put bigger tires on these!
@@420motorsThanks that makes me feel better coming from you guys. Some guy on u tube is ranting about how bad they are and I just bought a Bison diesel. So I was a little freaked out.
Yea. We have had to replace already. It considering the amount of abuse they took and that the suggested rebuild milage on all aftermarket shocks would have demanded 3-6 rebuilds by now anyway.
@@420motors i cant bring myself to do a body lift. may have to just get those high clearance AEV Fenders. Love your channel and your ZR2 content, thanks for all you do!
Shoot good thing about Toyota is that aftermarket parts are abundant. You don’t need a full build. You can do a lot with bolt on mods but be fooled into thinking that’s cheap either. Don’t see a whole lot of built Tundra’s old man emu and total chaos make a bunch of good things for tacos, I would start there. Basically what your looking for is an upgraded rear axle. You can work on your current one. Regear and add an air locker. Trust it for strength and get a dealer style leaf pack. Bump stops and small bed cage for protruding shocks. Up front your gonna be looking at some expensive options also. A mid travel kit should do. Maybe some bump stops and probably 3 inch shocks up front and 3.5 on the rear and your good. You will want to pull abs and traction control fuses as well as upgrade breaks. If you want a builder the best tundra raptor killer I’ve seen was made by kibbitech. We actually have it on a video czcams.com/channels/hBFUIa2w-1FOmYexcjxbOQ.html
A level lift, body lift or 4 inch BDF lift will not have you trimming your fenders and heat gunning your fender flares. And when I do something to my car or truck, I want it to be perfect.
Then don’t watch do it yourself videos. Also I like to drive. I like to drift and I like to do it at high speeds. So why would I want to ruin the center of gravity by doing a 4 inch lift.
Look, there’s no need for you to get all pissy. I’m just saying that no one I’ve seen cuts their fender, and if they did, I’m sure people would do it a hell of a lot cleaner then that.
living in the northeast, Nokian Hakkapeliitta tires are the best snow tires you will ever buy. ive used a few of them on multiple vehicles. My Evo was a beast in the snow with them. Wife's Honda Pilot same result. Im not surprised you love their offroad tires.
Oh yea man. I had no idea. I guess these are the next evolution. The type of Tyres your used to mixed with armor for desert running and toughness. Basically took the performance of the standard tires and made them tougher. Thank you for your input
My evo and now silverado got nokian!😁 they're legit Colorado snow don't phase me
Yeah absolutely, great snow tires are a game changer.
You've got the biggest balls ever. Thank you for making colorado content, you are miles ahead of everyone else on youtube!
Thanks man. Thanks for watching too
Just wanted to say thanks for this video..... may sound a bit cheesy, but the instructions and tips you shared help give me the confidence to take the plunge and do a bit of trimming and I am very pleased with the result. Thanks again.
Hell yea man thanks. I know been the self imposed victim of a lot of diy projects that are made to sound easy and videos that aren’t honest about mistakes. Don’t worry about being cheesy. That’s exactly the results we were looking for. More helpful than glamours every time
Dude I never really thought about cutting the metal and then heating the flare-up to make it so it has a factory look the AEV kit that is out there in my opinion looks super cheesy!
Nokians are good but if you ever decide to go bigger and want a good sticky tires, I have ran milestar patagonia mt’s and they are excellent in ever terrain very quiet on the road to. I was at Moab with them a couple months ago and even without airing down they were very grippy and didn’t slip once on the rocks. I did hells revenge, Kane creek and poison spider.
Nice. Yea plenty of sets to compare grip with. I’m impressed by the side walls though. For desert running nothing really exist yet than can be comparable in under a 37” tire size
There are some after market fenders that allow 35’s. I’ve seen one person running 37’s just by trimming the stock fenders, taking a hammer to the body mounts etc.
Haven’t seen those fenders yet though. Thought they still weren’t out
Looks good. Little bit of this and the body lift/gm level and those 34.5" km3's would probably fit.
Oh yea. That’s what the race team did. And they run 34.5
I would put a little bit of paint on the clips tip that way it will mark where you have to drill 7:23
You got huge, steel one's dude! I could never bring myself to cut on my new truck
lol. It was time for better tires
Awesome man! I’m pumped for Moab videos too!
Yea man thanks. Moab was a lot of fun
420 motors one of the coolest places on the planet.
Ya know what they say, ain't custom till the buzzsaw comes out.
Lol yup
Thanks for the info and those wheels look sick, good choice.
Awesome thanks man
I recognize those impact drivers...
Lmao. Still haven’t needed to upgrade.
I’m liking the idea of the stock rims and 32” more and more.😂
Who makes a wheel with the same specs as stock? I just want some sweet bronze rims.
I didn’t think to research AEV wheel specs as I thought they would fit with no trim - 31 or 32.
Shoot you might have to custom order some
The new aev high mark fender flares price tag 💸 got me revisting this video. Lol. I'm not all that handy tho. Haha
Lol
I think I would rather do a 1" level and some minor plastic trimming to fit 33's. Watching you cut fenders is painful. I guess this was probably a cake-walk after cutting to instal the AEV snorkel though.
Lol. It’s mandatory for me. I refuse to do a lift because o want to preserve or improve the center of gravity. Rather trim sheet metal than end up on my side trying to drift lol. But yea the snorkel was worse.
Well done!!! Great work!!!
Thank you
Do full size trucks have bigger wheel wells? Maybe we could cut the fenders the same size as the full size and use the plastic around a full size truck to make a perfect fit without the heat gun? I mean if they are bigger I don't even know if that would work or if they are completely different
The thing is that it’s not really worth it. All you wed to trim is in that section. Proof of concept zr2 had 33 inch tires. The location of that single tab forced it to go to 31. So no need to trim any more than that
Great job, as usual. I've been reluctant to trim the wells and had planned on 32's but I may trim now and go with 33's on stock wheels..
Oh yea man. Actually zr2 was designed for 33’s. That part that I cut is what forced it to go down to stock 31” tires. So you will be good
3m double sided tape for the lower rock guards on the fender. I would be worried about that blue take collecting moisture if I where anywhere else.
Oh good point. The double sided tape will help double
@@420motors had you thought about legit adhesive or hot glue for those body pins?
Oh yea. But gotta clean it to use adhesive lol
It looks like those plastic pieces that are used to hold the tabs are “soldered” on to the fender flares. I did the same and one came partly loose. They have those little holes all over the place and I believe they were melded with heat to the fender flares... I used a solder gun and “re-attached” it. Not pretty, but seems sold.
Nice tip though. I don’t think I’ve seen a perfect one.
Outstanding video !!
Thank you man
Great video. Best trimming info out there by far. What's the actual size of those tires? I'm getting new wheels and I cant decide on tire size. Debating between 265/70r17 or 275/70r17. I'm thinking the 265s wont cause any rubbing but the 275s might.
They are 265 70r15. With aftermarket wheels. After trimming I get no rubbing and can fully tuck them. The rear barely touches under extreme articulation so yea 275 might need some stiffer coils or a perch or leveling kit
@@420motors damn. Good to know. I do have a 1" leveling kit but maybe I'll just stick with the 265's anyway. If I'm being honest I'm still a little chicken to trim
Lol. Yea man I don’t blame you. The offset on my wheels is what made me do it. Even if I kept the stock tires I needed to trim just to maintain full steering
@@420motors Damn. I've been planning to get the Crestones from AEV but didn't realize they'd cause rubbing even on stock tire size. Glad you put that out there.
All offsets will. So any wheel you go with unless you custom order stock dimensions you will get rubbing. But originally I didn’t. Had 95% used tires up front and brand new in the rear. When I rotated them is when the rubbing started. So it’s only a temporary problem.
theres no way id hack out the fenders on my new truck to fit a 1 inch taller tire... there's got to be a affordable lift out there that would allow for 33's to stuff in there. im waiting on my 2022 zr2
Your not wrong. And depending on use you might be able to get more gains. If you abuse the truck your gotta do more practical mods though. It is a minimal lift as you said but for performance reasons. Don’t want to throw off balance too much. I like sliding around a lot so don’t want bigger tires than 32. But plenty of people looking to stuff much bigger tires. Honestly depends how you like to drive. Would be higher and bigger tires if I liked crawling more but I tend to avoid that. I just like driving fast in corners and jumping so build it to that.
Nicely done
Thank you
I ordered mine with the bds lift and 35 tires they work just fine.
Nice
Are you able to clear parking garages with this combo?
What do you mean you ordered yours with the BDS lift? It's not like that's a factory option.
@@quintili1 u can order it at most all gm dealerships with the bds lift and 35 tires and its still covered by the factory warranty.
@@brahmabull421 I haven't tried any parking garages. Don't use them much.
The little vest logo sold me!
Are you still happy with 265/70/r17 (32”)?
Tell @SterlingSSW to answer my IG message. Take my money, brother.😂
Lmao. He might be on a road trip. And yea I love them. But I am conflicted. For crawling and desert running they are amazing. On the dirt tracks at cal city though they aren’t very fast. Not designed for lateral grip. Need softer tires for that. But soft tires aren’t tough. So in zr2 size because of lack of options they are amazing tires. Once you get to 37’s and bigger I would have to go with bfg kr3’s. But that’s a race tire and not street legal so says a lot about the nokian tires actually
I know this old but what is that reciver skid plate shakle mount.
Nice video as always...question,largest tire size without trimming?
Depends on wheels. With stock wheels you can do 32. 33 will require trimming but not as much. Just shaving of the lower part.
Thanks
What sub-brand of Nokian tires (or, "tyres" as they call them) were those in the video? Were they the Sport SUV by chance?
No. It’s labeled as Rockproofs. This is the link www.nokiantyres.com/summer-tyres/nokian-rockproof/
@@420motors thank you!
Can you put a link to the mounts for the kc roof lights or the kit your purchased please?
Yea. The brackets are custom made by this guy www.calibuilt.net/ and the lights are these www.kchilites.com/gravity-led-pro6-led-light-bar.html
Do the plastic guards around the fenders have an important purpose? I love the zr2 but those make it look cheap to me.
Lol. Take them off. They don’t really do much. If you like drifting though or donuts they do offer some paint protection from sand blasting your sides with dirt and sand. That’s about it
great vid, so factory rims and no trimming you can run 32" tires? thanks again!
Yea but you will get some rubbing. We got a new wheel video coming out that does let you use 32’s with no trimming
@@420motors awesome, i just got my 2018 zr2 with the 2.8, i added the 1" leveling kit, subbed thanks for the video and up and coming ones.
Sweet. Thanks for watching
Any performance lost from the heavier tire? Thinking of getting that same tire but it weighs a solid 10 lbs over stock. Maybe I'm overthinking this lol
No performance lost, we highly recommended them. Dollar for dollar some of the best on the market; they really have no equal in their price range. And, they're not made in China!
what rack do you have in your bed for the spare tires?
Custom one made by a buddy. Hit him up prerunnerj68@gmail.com
You should do this for ppl i will pay 😂
Lol. I end up doing it for all my friends.
Did you ever get the fender to sit flush with the body? I'm gonna do this Sunday, if so what would you recommend I do to achieve flush results?
Lol yea the guard still has a small flair. On hot days it’s flush and as cools off the little bulge comes back. It doesn’t bother me but some double sided 3m tape would fix that if it drives you crazy
@@420motors thanks man!
Np
good stuff... How's the transmission on those ZR2's? I know they had issues earlier! thanks
Yea ours have been solid. Seems like they got those early issues sorted out
New tourq converter at 8000 miles on my 2020 bone stock.
Damn that certainly sucks
@@420motors It kept hunting at 55 to 60 mph and felt like you were riding the fog line. It was down 30 days while gm engineering figured out what to do.
how about an update on the Raptor?
Man I wish. Could be done by the end of October.
@@420motors no photo updates or video updates? would be nice.
Shoot we don’t have any for public sharing. But as soon as we get something to share we will post it on Instagram
NICE!!!!!!!!!!!!! :-)
Thank you
Trimming on the back isn't required for 33s?
Yea. But the back isn’t as critical as the front. Don’t think it would need to with stock wheels though. With aftermarket wheels definitely needs some trimming
@@420motors thanks for the help !
is that the SSR 2016-40 or the SSR 2016-47?
Yea it’s the 40. Forgot there were options lol www.supersprings.com/shop/ssr-212-40/
250/80/17 after rough country 2"(1.5) level kit fits without trimming on a 2022
Damn...you're rubbing with stock tires?
Come on @Chevy, give is a little more room! You know that everyone is going to want to put bigger tires on these!
Well just slightly and in the rear. Isn’t even leaving marks which is surprising. It’s mostly due to the offset of the wheels. But yea I hate rubbing
I know this is off topic but does anyone know of any issues with the multimatic dssv shocks?
Some have been known to leak prematurely. Besides that I love them
@@420motorsThanks that makes me feel better coming from you guys. Some guy on u tube is ranting about how bad they are and I just bought a Bison diesel. So I was a little freaked out.
Lol. Naw man. If they sucked we would have changed.
@@420motors That’s what I figured. So far…I think their badass!
Yea. We have had to replace already. It considering the amount of abuse they took and that the suggested rebuild milage on all aftermarket shocks would have demanded 3-6 rebuilds by now anyway.
think with peak kit at 2.25 and this trimming i could do 35s with stock wheels?
Lol your rear will run in driveways probably
420 motors thanks for the reply. What about with the add a leaf?
For the street yea. But your gonna need a body lift to get any articulation with 35’s
@@420motors i cant bring myself to do a body lift. may have to just get those high clearance AEV Fenders.
Love your channel and your ZR2 content, thanks for all you do!
Thanks man thanks for watching. I agree. For my style of driving I wouldn’t do the body lift either.
Whatever happened to your raptor ? Did you just give up in the raptor and when with colorado?
No man the raptor is getting built still with Robby woods. It’s taking forever
Man I have a 2016 tundra trd offroad, I was wondering if I could build it like a raptor or better
Oh yea man. Once you start building it almost doesn’t matter what the vehicle started as
@@420motors am daily driving my tundra, I want to daily drive it but build it a bid better then the raptor what shop do you recommend?
Shoot good thing about Toyota is that aftermarket parts are abundant. You don’t need a full build. You can do a lot with bolt on mods but be fooled into thinking that’s cheap either. Don’t see a whole lot of built Tundra’s old man emu and total chaos make a bunch of good things for tacos, I would start there. Basically what your looking for is an upgraded rear axle. You can work on your current one. Regear and add an air locker. Trust it for strength and get a dealer style leaf pack. Bump stops and small bed cage for protruding shocks. Up front your gonna be looking at some expensive options also. A mid travel kit should do. Maybe some bump stops and probably 3 inch shocks up front and 3.5 on the rear and your good. You will want to pull abs and traction control fuses as well as upgrade breaks. If you want a builder the best tundra raptor killer I’ve seen was made by kibbitech. We actually have it on a video czcams.com/channels/hBFUIa2w-1FOmYexcjxbOQ.html
How much offset are those rims?
Half inch per wheel
So you didn't lifted?
Nope. All stock still.
A level lift, body lift or 4 inch BDF lift will not have you trimming your fenders and heat gunning your fender flares. And when I do something to my car or truck, I want it to be perfect.
Then don’t watch do it yourself videos. Also I like to drive. I like to drift and I like to do it at high speeds. So why would I want to ruin the center of gravity by doing a 4 inch lift.
Look, there’s no need for you to get all pissy. I’m just saying that no one I’ve seen cuts their fender, and if they did, I’m sure people would do it a hell of a lot cleaner then that.
You need to get our more buddy.