Mass Effect - Creating the Salarians, Batarians

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  • čas přidán 20. 11. 2011
  • Mass Effect's associate art director Matt Rhodes talks about creating the Salarian and Batarian races.
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  • @theveyking5442
    @theveyking5442 Před 7 lety +230

    "I am the very model of a scientist salarian I study species turian, asari and batarian."
    "I'm quite good at genetics (as a subset of biology) because I am an expert (which I know is a tautology."
    "My xenoscience stufies range from urban to agrarian I am the very model of a scientist salarian."
    Most heartbreaking death in gaming. RIP Mordin

    • @thepalelibrarian
      @thepalelibrarian Před 7 lety +39

      Had to be him, someone else might have gotten it wrong.

    • @faltanato6375
      @faltanato6375 Před 4 lety +1

      😢😢😢😢😢😠😠😠

    • @AnimeShinigami13
      @AnimeShinigami13 Před 3 lety +1

      honestly I love Mordin, but I think Thane and Legion could give him a run for his money in terms of deaths that give you the feels.

  • @pocketlint60
    @pocketlint60 Před 12 lety +117

    "he's missing one of his head... horns"
    Even Bioware doesn't know what those are XD

  • @alexditlof1236
    @alexditlof1236 Před 10 lety +124

    They used to eat flys

  • @Spiritualspiral13
    @Spiritualspiral13 Před 10 lety +85

    We held the Line!

  • @mpalen19
    @mpalen19 Před 12 lety +19

    I love Mordin as a character in Mass Effect. Given that the two ex-CEO's of Bioware are medical doctors, it gives Mordin's role a bit depth and makes Mordin's story line more interesting.

  • @rocketman544
    @rocketman544 Před 12 lety +41

    Mordin is the Clint Eastwood Salarian? My respect for him just went, if possible, even higher.

  • @NoMaloneUnturned2
    @NoMaloneUnturned2 Před 6 lety +73

    "The batarians for mass effect 2" so we are just all going to forget the dlc bring down the sky?

    • @Jonatron101
      @Jonatron101 Před 3 lety +16

      I think that was spat out while they were developing ME2, the development would've overlapped for them I expect.

    • @NoMaloneUnturned2
      @NoMaloneUnturned2 Před 3 lety +5

      @@Jonatron101 I gotcha makes perfect sense, man I miss mass effect, I'll have to buy it again for my PS3 on payday

    • @Your-Least-Favorite-Stranger
      @Your-Least-Favorite-Stranger Před 3 lety +1

      @@NoMaloneUnturned2 remastered collection coming out this year

    • @NoMaloneUnturned2
      @NoMaloneUnturned2 Před 3 lety +1

      @@Your-Least-Favorite-Stranger yeah I'm gonna get it when it comes out

    • @bruhSaintJohn
      @bruhSaintJohn Před 3 lety +1

      Thr supposed main bad guys from the first game, replaced by a bunch of alien robots

  • @lonewolftheblack
    @lonewolftheblack Před 10 lety +54

    How did I not see it!!! Mordin in alien Clint Eastwood!!!!!!

  • @pidgeymessengerservice3696
    @pidgeymessengerservice3696 Před 10 lety +79

    I always thought the salarians were based off of frogs. They're amphibious, right? Lay eggs? And the legs reminds me of a frogs, long and thin with lots of joint so they can fold up and release like a spring.

    • @MadDogReed97
      @MadDogReed97 Před 9 lety +28

      They are amphibian. Liara says in ME3

    • @sarge019l4
      @sarge019l4 Před 7 lety +25

      "they used to lick their eyes"

    • @Cristina-nb5fo
      @Cristina-nb5fo Před 7 lety +33

      Javik: they used to eat flies

    • @GothicElf68
      @GothicElf68 Před 5 lety +12

      I'm thinking more like a salamander. They are long and thin like the Salarians.

  • @GRZNGT
    @GRZNGT Před 9 lety +36

    Knowing that Matt will be in ME4 team makes me exciting for a game even more.

    • @popcornfilms1
      @popcornfilms1 Před 7 lety +9

      Shame how the designs turned out

    • @chapus2009
      @chapus2009 Před 7 lety +6

      He actually didn't work that much for ME4/Andromeda, unfortunately. He's more 'officially' part of the Dragon Age team.

  • @Ideabot_69
    @Ideabot_69 Před 12 lety +3

    The codex entry on the Turians' military doctrine makes me feel as though they tossed a whole heap of Ancient Rome into it.
    Mainly how prisoners of war are recruited to the military and become citizens upon completion of a tour of duty.

  • @Chrinik
    @Chrinik Před 10 lety +20

    The Batarian in Human armor thing makes no sense when you realise they also wear human helmets, and can´t really use two of their eyes. But apparenty, the inside of the helmet is also like a screen, giving much better perception then the little vision slit would imply.

    • @douglasaranda2010
      @douglasaranda2010 Před 7 lety

      2 years ago you posted this comment, either way, I'd just think about the Recon Hood, they do have enhancements for combat and else

    • @reaganoliver956
      @reaganoliver956 Před 2 lety +1

      The Andromeda helmets would definitely be a better match for them

  • @Milespro2346
    @Milespro2346 Před 11 lety +12

    'Clint Eastwood Salarian' I lost it XD I don't think i can ever look at mordin the same again

  • @Chrinik
    @Chrinik Před 10 lety +17

    ***** Yeah, for all "combat races" they used a "human skeleton" for animation.
    That meant saving a ton of money and time for animation purposes.

    • @alexandresilva3427
      @alexandresilva3427 Před 7 lety +12

      Mass effect 1 was a realy risky project with little funding. They had to make a lot of cuts. Most of ME1's sidequests use the same 3 map designs for the facilities.

  • @dfghj241
    @dfghj241 Před 11 lety +2

    would be awesome if they added a little story where salarians where abducting humans way before the contact war ever happened (in the current date of 2000's - 2030s) but these salarians never spoked anything to the council or anything, would be a really nice explanation of these storys of the greys in the mass effect universe!

  • @dde334
    @dde334 Před 12 lety +2

    To be fair, the process they used making the original ME was likely very similar to that of making KOTOR, and most of the Star Wars characters were very humanoid as well (being originally designed for movie sets). I'd say the differentiation of these characters is a big step from film and previous RPGs.

  • @paigeseliger836
    @paigeseliger836 Před 10 lety +51

    I always thought that Mordin was based off of Bill Nye. They kind of look alike, AND they're both engineers.

    • @nekocekoBiHMK
      @nekocekoBiHMK Před 9 lety +17

      Mordin isn't an engineer, though. He's a biologist.

    • @RatchildUK
      @RatchildUK Před 9 lety +8

      nekocekoBiH Gameplay wise, he's an Engineer. He's like the flipside of Tali. She's the tech specialist and Mordin is the biologist expert. Synthetic/Organic.

    • @davekent6023
      @davekent6023 Před 7 lety +2

      judging by the face, Bill Nighy

  • @godofimagination
    @godofimagination Před 12 lety +1

    It says in LATSB that Mordin's horn was removed by a female krogan during his genophage mission (while he was killing her with a pitchfork).

  • @eran5005
    @eran5005 Před 12 lety +2

    I don't know where people got that silly notion. I remember when i was playing ME1 (which was just ME at the time :P), i read each and every codex entry i could get my hands on because i found (and still find) this universe to be fascinating - and it had several mentions of the Batarians. Two of the origin stories you can choose for Shepard - war hero & ruthless involve Batarian lore.
    So yeah, don't know how that silly rumor started.

  • @gokulauri
    @gokulauri Před 11 lety +2

    I want to see how they created Thane Krios

  • @Jonatron101
    @Jonatron101 Před 12 lety +1

    I think he was more talking about the personality communicated by the typical expressions the Salarians are capable of.

  • @kingjaxn2013
    @kingjaxn2013 Před 12 lety +1

    I love how at the end of the video when Matt says: "There's no one one the team that DOESN'T want to see more alien races..." the galaxy map music slowly fades in a way that invites the viewer to imagine what other types of races one could or would see in the Mass Effect universe.

  • @Chrinik
    @Chrinik Před 10 lety +7

    They leave it up to me to decide how that happened? What, the Shadow Broker has a report file on him from his mission on tuchanka with the STG, he lost it during close quarter combat using a pitchfork...

    • @GothicElf68
      @GothicElf68 Před 5 lety +1

      I know this is old, but, the phrase used was "leave it up to you to figure out how that happened."

  • @Tassanamm
    @Tassanamm Před 12 lety +2

    This is properly my favourite race in Mass effect

  • @bassmickey
    @bassmickey Před 12 lety +1

    Wow, One of the richest and most organic video game franchise ever created.

  • @keyo3316
    @keyo3316 Před 2 lety +2

    Somehow Salarian heads always sort of looked like the head of a giraffe to me.

  • @_MaZTeR_
    @_MaZTeR_ Před 4 lety +1

    Salarian kidney is best served at room temperature. It is even better when the salarian is still alive. The fear adds... spice.

  • @xToAsTa
    @xToAsTa Před 12 lety +2

    when picking Shepards back story in ME1 if you pick "colonist" it says Shepards parents were killed by Batarian slavers.

  • @Frozenwillow
    @Frozenwillow Před 11 lety +1

    I do.
    In fact, I have been wondering about the appearance of batarian females since Revelation.
    Pretty sure I'm not the only one.

  • @DragonRadar52
    @DragonRadar52 Před 12 lety +1

    Well, you could have a prothean on your team. That doesn't really count as a "new" race but it does count as freaking amazing.

  • @valen123456
    @valen123456 Před 12 lety +1

    I agree with you, but the problem for animators going down that route is that people then feel put off since aliens wouldnt look 'human enough' to covey body language or expressions that we can recognise and the digital acting wouldnt have worked, its the same way their mouths move in the same way an english speakers would even though they are supposedly speaking alien languages (you get the same feeling watching a foreign movie with an english dub, mouths just dont move in the right way)

  • @Scorpio3002
    @Scorpio3002 Před 12 lety +1

    Damn, good point. I'm sticking with my theory, though. It can't be that hard to add something into the codex an hour before you ship the game, and I desperately want to believe that Bioware pulled a Dr Seuss with "Salarian/Batarian"

  • @juukame
    @juukame Před 12 lety +2

    I've been wondering, what is the lifespan of a turian? I don't recall ever seeing that mentioned in the game or the codex.

  • @MichaelTheCelt
    @MichaelTheCelt Před 12 lety

    they explain in the game, i believe in the shadow broker dlc that he lost his head "horn" while he was on an STG mission distributing the genophage.

  • @Jonatron101
    @Jonatron101 Před 12 lety

    They existed in the universe (Revelation, Anderson's brief mention of the events of Revelation) except for Bringing Down the Sky. And Bringing Down the Sky was released while Mass Effect 2 would be in development, probably just after this interview.

  • @JuliaLaurenMorales
    @JuliaLaurenMorales Před 11 lety

    This is so cool, I would love to do this for a living

  • @Yapo1987
    @Yapo1987 Před 12 lety +1

    So... can someone explain to me, exactly why all salarians that don't wear robes with a hood, DO wear those strange chest and forearm "frame" pieces? Does it has to have something with that their natural bone frame is fragile at those places?

  • @ParentiBrothers
    @ParentiBrothers Před 11 lety +4

    Mordin was my favorite character. He will be avenged!

  • @SonoftheSteppes
    @SonoftheSteppes Před 11 lety

    Was talking about the geth dreadnought where legion is captured.

  • @commandershepard5131
    @commandershepard5131 Před 12 lety

    I'll admit, I almost didn't want to do Synthesis. But I found out that we'd come back. Look in the coments of other mass effect 3 videos, and you'll find the others, pretty sure I saw Garrus argueing with his sister over the video he and Legion made. Speaking of which, Legion, Miranda, Tali, Garrus, Jeff, and Ilive in the same house now. I'm not quite sure where Thane and Javik live, but they're always with each other. Look up Legion and Friends videos, it shows what most of us do now.

  • @helloimtom100
    @helloimtom100 Před 12 lety +2

    i love the salarians, live to age 40, live fast and die young

  • @wc7vdaner
    @wc7vdaner Před 12 lety

    2:10 gotta love the Assasin's Creed Salarian mix

  • @dfghj241
    @dfghj241 Před 11 lety +1

    yea mordin said he don't do experiment with species capable of calculus, which is a kinda stupid thing to say, not because i support the experimentation, but the type of calculus he was referring to is common to a much bigger variety of animals then only space faring kind of inteligence, the kind of calculus that make a species capable of choosing which path is the best, which way to kill a prey is the best and so on. and i wasn't even talking about mordin, i was talking about his race overall.

  • @Scorpio3002
    @Scorpio3002 Před 12 lety

    I'm pretty sure that the Batarians were named just to rhyme in Mordin's song. They were never seen or mentioned in the vanilla ME1, and they had probably started working on ME2 by the time they were making Bring Down the Sky. You can only use "Agrarian" so many times.

  • @Hyake
    @Hyake Před 12 lety

    About the missing part of his head... I always thought he was born like that... but iunno, some battlefield related accident?

  • @MrMethadrine
    @MrMethadrine Před 12 lety

    u r geniuses.Thank u for ur games!

  • @Wanooknox
    @Wanooknox Před 11 lety +1

    Damn it Mass Effect, stop being so God damn interesting! I have things to get done!

  • @Hjernespreng
    @Hjernespreng Před 12 lety

    3:27
    He lost it in a skirmish with Krogans when they renewed the Genophage. The game itself makes it clear in the "Lair of the shadowbrooker" DLC.

  • @superdevonator
    @superdevonator Před 11 lety

    he did sing to a tower as it was exploding.

  • @masseffectbozon
    @masseffectbozon Před 12 lety +1

    puts starwars to shame, well done Bio WELL DONE

  • @dEsSiCaTa
    @dEsSiCaTa Před 12 lety

    4:09
    Is that why the Raloi was never included in ME3?

  • @kubmari
    @kubmari Před 11 lety

    If memory servers me well Mordin lost his horn (was wounded) when he was on Tuchanka on mission to modify the genophage.

  • @Stickywicket
    @Stickywicket Před 11 lety

    There is an article about that on Gamer informer.

  • @RyanKaufman
    @RyanKaufman Před 12 lety

    I totally saw the "This is like a basic alien, but changed to look more realistic"

  • @graidstinHitlerRants
    @graidstinHitlerRants Před 12 lety +2

    Ah yes, the Salarians. Aliens supposedly based on the stereotypical, Roswell aliens, whose livers are a delicacy and who once ate flies. We have dismissed that claim.

  • @SolKaras
    @SolKaras Před 12 lety +1

    Actually they were mentioned in vanilla ME1, in the codex. :) They had a different look before they were properly designed for "Bring Down the Sky", though. But really, who read those codexes :P

  • @MilitantOldLady
    @MilitantOldLady Před 11 lety +4

    I am the very model of a scientist Salarian.... *now you're singing it in your head too* :D

  • @estevanvalladares3701
    @estevanvalladares3701 Před 7 lety

    And today we know how Andromeda ended up like.
    And on a more nostalgic note, all that sounds really cool, but still, in ME original trilogy, batarians always had their upper eyes upper from the visor in their helmets, so the human biometrics jabber didnt really gone through much.

  • @AdamSrayi
    @AdamSrayi Před 12 lety

    were there any new aliens in ME3?

  • @craze647
    @craze647 Před 12 lety

    Just imagine the races Javik talks about...

  • @Impartial_Sojourner
    @Impartial_Sojourner Před 11 lety

    Mordin arms look like they are cybernetic.

  • @sollie7
    @sollie7 Před 12 lety +2

    "We don't just show the one and that's it"
    So how about them female turians, krogan, drell, and batarians (I'm not counting Eve because she's wearing a damn burqa, so we still don't actually know what they look like)? Oh wait.

  • @rebootedsharpshooter
    @rebootedsharpshooter Před 12 lety

    So much mass effect...

  • @pepparmostheelder
    @pepparmostheelder Před 12 lety

    Others alredy replied with this but I'll just go ahead and put another nail in the coffine :P Batarians were mentioned in ME1 before any DLC.

  • @BlaqMagiq99
    @BlaqMagiq99 Před 12 lety

    he said that their inspiration for Mordins character design, at least for the face, was Clint Eastwood.
    3:00 "the design brief was to say what would the clint eastwood salarian look like?"
    3:14 "the intens squint and the wrinkles"
    if u look at Clint Eastwood and then this picture of Mordin u can see the similarities in the faces so,
    -.-... pay attention

  • @SharpWalkers
    @SharpWalkers Před 12 lety

    One of his headhorns was bitten off by a Krogan.

  • @HumanMonolith
    @HumanMonolith Před 12 lety

    @Greatdictator
    That's true. They just seem to be humans made to look ugly so we're supposed to unquestioningly hate them. If they'd look less outwardly ugly (fish like, maybe?) they'd be more interesting from a design point. Loved the part they played in ME3 though. :)

  • @bioniclebuu
    @bioniclebuu Před 12 lety

    im also greek so does that make me krogan also?

  • @Jonatron101
    @Jonatron101 Před 12 lety

    @betrekwoman You sir, are a blight!

  • @Caboose727
    @Caboose727 Před 12 lety

    Always wondered why the Salarians looked like they too an ice cream scooper to the chest.

  • @rockCity777
    @rockCity777 Před 12 lety +2

    The theme of limiting the into human shape is repeated in all of these videos. I suppose it makes sense with the current technical limitations and the practical things, but it does sacrifice some of the realism and soul prevalent in some sci-fi. I hope that it'll be possible to bring some truy weird, unique or incredible characters to life in the future

  • @Rhiilynn
    @Rhiilynn Před 12 lety +1

    I Named one of my Alien OC "Salarious" she was the queen of the Salarians. Then I played ME1 and went "Well Fuck! I guess I have to tweak that races name." :/

  • @katapruiz
    @katapruiz Před 11 lety +1

    MORDIN

  • @Seddon4494
    @Seddon4494 Před 12 lety

    Plus in 'war hero' psychological profile you fight off Baterian slavers

  • @dakacklator
    @dakacklator Před 12 lety +1

    Now show us quarians under the suits :D, despite the fact the technically cant live without it xD

  • @PeachTear
    @PeachTear Před 11 lety

    OMG That's why he's always reminded me of Clin Eastwood XD

  • @armandoBatista1979
    @armandoBatista1979 Před 11 lety +1

    Benedict Cumberbatch looks like a Salarian.

  • @3027085
    @3027085 Před 12 lety

    Mordin: The Clint Eastwood Salarian. His voice still never hit puberty.
    gotta love him ;)

  • @herpderp9430
    @herpderp9430 Před 3 lety +1

    Honestly, I dislike how many aliens have those backwards knees.

  • @ultrajd
    @ultrajd Před 10 lety +58

    Batarians...the Iranians of outer space.

    • @Rinchen8192
      @Rinchen8192 Před 10 lety +42

      that's a little harsh, on the Batarians.

    • @ultrajd
      @ultrajd Před 10 lety +1

      Rinchen Gonpo
      True.

    • @ProBrosification
      @ProBrosification Před 10 lety +2

      Rinchen Gonpo Ohhhhhhh snap

    • @ultrajd
      @ultrajd Před 8 lety

      ***** call me a racist if you want but honestly I don't care. In reality I actually have little problems with people who are out of Iranian descent. My issues stem from the fact that every time a disaster seems to happen in the Middle East especially if it happens around the country of Iran the Iranian government seems to always want to blame the west. The thing that I've always been annoyed by is so many countries in the Middle East hate the United States or even the West in general for in my mind completely illegitimate reasons. Also you probably might hate me in the sense that whenever I used to play Splinter Cell blacklist and I play the level that took place at the former American Embassy I actually got a strange almost six sense of joy in killing the Iranian soldiers that were in it. But don't worry if I were ever to meet you in person I can tell you right now that I wouldn't hold any contempt for you personally.

    • @ultrajd
      @ultrajd Před 8 lety

      ***** my respect for you histor skyrocketed. I can understand having problems with a country that tries to constantly interfere with euro nations government or well-being. I actually fought in the Afghan war during 2006 - 2009. And honestly there were many many times where I would wake up in the morning and get my battle gear on before going out on patrol or I will be thinking to myself. "What are we even trying to do here?" I mean yes we took down the Taliban. However I think the biggest mistake that we made was trying to impart westernized government models onto a region of the world that had still been very tribal and very secular. I believe what we should have done after taking down the Taliban was simply make sure that the various tribes and secular groups would stop fighting each other and then leave. We should have never have tried to set up a singular government.
      I must say this though. The one main area where I get allot of my disdain for the Iranian nation is the former president. I forget his name but he was a man who was not only fiercely anti-western but he was also a Holocaust denier. And as a Jewish Canadian that one is a bit of a sore spot for me. But that's a discussion for a whole nother day.
      Again as I said in the beginning after reading your comment which talks about the perspective from both sides I now respect you fairly well. It's nice to actually speak to somebody who isn't blinded by just blatant racism be it through politics religion or simple skin color.
      On a side note you are actually very correct on the whole politicized religion thing. No I'm not a religious person. But I have read a couple of passages of both the Bible the Quran and the Turin and in the passages of the Quran that I red I found nothing that said you know till the people that don't believe in your God. In fact the Quran preaches peace and understanding. Unfortunately various people like to bastardize it and essentially drag the name of Muhammad through the mud. Now granted other religions do this is well. There are individuals here in the United States where I currently live that say they are devout Catholics are Christians and yet they go round firebombing abortion clinics or shooting up homosexual bars. Long story short the world as we know it right now is kind of a shit place to live.

  • @Nikolaj11
    @Nikolaj11 Před 12 lety

    I clicked on the video because i thought the thubnail was a Salarian in a suit!

  • @demonnogo
    @demonnogo Před 12 lety

    Well my second female Shepard did but my male Shepard didn't. How can you explain multiple Shepards and outcomes if you are real?

  • @helloimtom100
    @helloimtom100 Před 12 lety

    he some how became even more cooler

  • @BrightFilms117
    @BrightFilms117 Před 12 lety

    Now tell us how you designed the hanar!

  • @theconfidentialfish
    @theconfidentialfish Před 12 lety

    Yes. Problem?

  • @Xenomorphine
    @Xenomorphine Před 12 lety

    Batarians: The one species cursed with the misfortune to look eternally constipated.
    No wonder they're so aggressive and grumpy all the time...

  • @jonnymovieboy
    @jonnymovieboy Před 12 lety +1

    I'm proud to be a British Salarians

  • @Paskakatiska
    @Paskakatiska Před 12 lety

    HOLD THE LINE!

  • @xdeser2
    @xdeser2 Před 12 lety

    Mordin is basicly the Clint Eastwood of Salarians?
    He is now my favorite character lol

  • @TheUnknown285
    @TheUnknown285 Před 11 lety

    So, Mordin is the Clint Eastwood of salarians? I wonder if he talks to chairs when we're not looking.

  • @jackfromm
    @jackfromm Před 11 lety +3

    "The Clint Eastwood Salarian" lol

  • @faltanato6375
    @faltanato6375 Před 4 lety

    Those asari hannar games are pretty nasty

  • @Spulpacz
    @Spulpacz Před 11 lety

    i still want to see REAL GREY aliens in this game

  • @S-Nova0
    @S-Nova0 Před 12 lety

    He's referring to stiff upper lip.

  • @Xad_U
    @Xad_U Před 12 lety

    maybe the inusannon soon?

  • @TheRaviotar
    @TheRaviotar Před 11 lety

    I've studied species turian, asari, and batarian...

  • @timtenthousand
    @timtenthousand Před 12 lety

    oh hows i loves mes mass effects

  • @Theonegamefreak
    @Theonegamefreak Před 12 lety +1

    I miss Mordin.

  • @FabrykaFiranek7
    @FabrykaFiranek7 Před 11 lety

    I (almost) cried about thane and legion... am i diffrent? :C

  • @TotemOfBryce
    @TotemOfBryce Před 12 lety

    what new aliens in ME3 are he talking about... all i can think od is Javik