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Condor A330-900Neo 'Prime' Business Class Trip Report
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- čas přidán 25. 03. 2023
- Could Condor's new A330-900Neo fleet set it above Lufthansa's Business Class? TheDesignAir takes Condor's new Business Class 'Prime Seat' proposition for a spin to see if the extra space, better amenities and affordable price tag make for a winning combination.
Condor is gradually rolling out this product to replace its ageing 767 fleet, and the end result is a quantum leap in passenger experience. It could just be that Condor has the secret sauce to be a hidden gem in the European long-haul business class market.
What do you think of Condor's latest business class proposition? Let us know in the comments below.
A great point about Condor having the opportunity to be even more competitive on the ground with their own lounges. Nice review.
Let’s hope they open some soon!
Which I assume won't happen as LH and Condor currently don't get along really well to phrase it that way. To sum that up (a bit more dramatic than it actually is): Condor gets competition from the LH subsidiary Discover Airlines and uses every legal "loophole" to launch lawsuits and make life a living hell for the Discover Airlines legal team :D
We will take that this fall to Frankfurt and back. Now a hoodie! I love it. I'm still using my Condor cup, my #1 amenity kit. I'm so tired of these Signature Amenity leather bags.
The most important thing, I got along with the crew on both flights in 2021. One female crew gave me a hug while we were waiting for our bags at Seattle airport. She told me to fly again Condor. For sure we will this year in their Neo A330-900.
Still love wearing the hoodie, even today!
Wow...loved this video. You mentioned that your expectations were exceeded by Condor...so were mine...even as a viewer rather than a traveler. The Business Class cabin was as visually impressive as any I have seen and I was quite pleased to see what a statement was made by the striped theme. The service from the flight attendants and certainly the dining options were also something to be complimented. This is definitely not the Condor I remember when my former partner used to fly them from Germany to the United States years ago. Great job as usual, my friend. You've set the bar pretty high.
Thank you so much for the kind words, have you seen our latest JetBlue video too yet?
@@thedesignairvideo Just watched it a few moments ago. Wow!! That first meal service was one of the best I have ever seen served across the Atlantic. Thanks, my friend.
The interior looks very classy; well done Condor!
Fabulous informative presentation from Jonny Clark ( as always). Great to see such elegant slick Design from Condor . Look forward to choosing them as my next carrier .
Glad you enjoyed it! Thanks for being a loyal subscriber!
Very beautiful interior... Very very nice looking...
I love stripes so this is aesthetically pleasing to me.
We are all about the stripes …
Thank you for your video. I’m playing Condor next month to go to Frankfurt from Los Angeles. I’m so excited I never flew it before and the business class looks really comfortable for sure.
Never flown Condor but your video has me looking up flights just to try it out! Well done.
Great, let me know how it goes if you fly with them, try to get on the A330neo if you can!
A very well-made, very helpful video with , do I dare, "usually" great commenting. Your attitude is as positive as it is honest, which I truly appreciate. There is something about you Brits that make you really good at this. Either your channel is quite new or it is underappreciated - either way, this video is pro level.
I've just booked the "Prime " business class seats for our next Thailand holidays in early 2025 and I am hoping for an as great experience.
Thank you so much for making and sharing, and again, truly appreciated 🙏
Well thanks so much! Really appreciate the comments! Please do spread the word!
@@thedesignairvideo Sure will do 👍🤝
Excellent branding and the onboard product looks fantastic too.
Thank you!
Superb review, nicely presented, you come across nice, calm and articulate
Thanks so much for the kind feedback! Please keep watching and spread the word!
You did all that and your hair still looks AMAZING! Bravo!
Thank you for the great report. We will be flying "standard" Business class next January to/from Seattle/Frankfurt, and I checked your review before booking. We look forward to comparing to other airlines.
Let us know how it goes!
Nice Video TheDesignAir
I Like The Livery To Condor A330-900Neo I Like The Business Cabin.Great Trip Report
We love it too!
Great cabin!
Great video! Wish you more subscribers!
Why thank you, please help spread the word!
It’s truly as comfortable as he says and the staff are unbeatable. I’ll be flying with them more often. Only criticism is the FRA check in that also gave incorrect information for a connecting flight. Almost missed it.
Great review
Thanks so much for the kind words!
Great report, I think I'll try Condor's business class next trip to Germany.
you really should!
Condor is a holiday airline? Wooow looks amazing! And the livery💚 looks spectacular, love it😍
It looks like good foot room for a change but tough if you don’t like fish or Italian! Thanks for reporting.
It’s quite a varied menu and it also differs route to route but hey, who doesn’t like Italian or fish! 😜
Flying the Prime Seat in Business in 2 days. Thanks for your review. Frankfurt to Seattle
How was it?
@@thedesignairvideo the new business class seats were great. I sat across from my wife, whom had the prime seat in the front by the window and her set up was tremendous. What was a real surprise was the catering. 4 courses all plated separately without a tray, and very elevated offerings. We most typically fly BA between the continents, and this experience was much better than Club World.
Hi,it is really awesome to see that an airline tries to redefine itself in a very positive way.In my opinion,way much better than lufthansas product.One question; the prime seats are row number one?.Thank you very much for your video!
Yes, the prime seat centre pair are row 1. There are also 2A and 2K which are prime seats, but solo.
We found your channel well executed and produced. Congratulations. We are subscribed. We are a start up silent travel vlog channel. Keep up the good work.
Thanks so much! Really kind words!
@@thedesignairvideo🙏👍
I flew business class two weeks ago, PDX to FRA, in seat 6K, which is NOT a prime seat. We got no pajamas or snack basket, so they must be prime-seat perks. I liked the seat a lot - pretty comfy. You mentioned that the "footwell" can feel cramped on many airlines but it felt roomy to me. The one thing I didn't like about the seat was there was ZERO storage - nothing at your feet and nothing on the shelf is allowed during takeoff and landing. The FA came along and put my man-purse in the overhead, which really annoyed me. Also I found the meal service to be really rushed, but maybe the FAs don't know what they are doing yet. Thanks for the review.
You have to book the Prime seat extra with an additional cost of 200 EUR.
No snack basket? 😢
Love the video, you done a great job! The Condor's new business class looks stunning. I personally don't like the stripe pattern on Condor's fuselage, it looks like prisoner's uniform
Nice review. I am flying this next week. Paid for by the prime seats after watching your video. Those PJs 🤩 … btw did u happen to know the guy sitting next to you or just a random guy who tolerated recording ?
I wish I could transfer my Lufthansa miles to Condor. Flew business last summer with them to the States from Frankfurt and it was great.
Wouldn’t that be a dream!
Outstanding review. I would have avoided Condor. We’ll be flying Lufthansa back from Europe this September, for a second time. Wish we could take Condor
AVOID IT !! the BUSINESS CLASS SUCKS !!! no meal on my 11 hour flight from San Francisco to Frankfurt, only a snack tray in the beginning.. plus they moved my seat.. completely disappointed.
Feels more like a first class experience than a business class one
It certainly sits somewhere between Business and First
@@thedesignairvideothe best unintentional pun that you could’ve made. 😂😂👏🏻
Very good review of a reat product..I really did like the wine list:) Yet, Condor lets you really pay now for this product, often more than the competition. Apropos: did you fully fund yourself this trip? You obviously enjoyed special treatment, being escorted by the station manager to the aircraft.
We were greeted but the service we got was the usual service and didn’t compare to the way any other passengers were onboard
Already booked my flight from JFK-FRA on Condor A330-900 Business Class.
Enjoy your flight!
I do like the darker accents (wood and seat color).. looks richer and I think it will last longer. or look richer longer.. up close the plane actually looks sharp with livery, but I don't know from a far I don't think it screams luxury; it doesn't look shiny like it does up close. A dark blue stripe on the outside would have been nice.
Did lights from the galley or crew noise affect you negatively whilst seated in the first row?
Thank you
I liked so many aspects of the aircraft. The lighting looked so good on the cabin tour, the food looked good too, and I liked the striking black and white theme. Of course, it's an Airbus, which adds to the feeling of safety.
How do prices compare with Lufthansa?
Prices are often cheaper but not always. Certainly worth it if the price is comparable!
It's cheaper almost $1,500 US to FRA RT. Different days have different prices. It also depends which city in the US you're flying from. I don't think I will pay $8,000 to $12,000 for BC nowadays. Outrageous. Condor is also very good.
Condor has the better version of the Spirit airlines livery. It’s so weird and different, it stands out like you wouldn’t believe. However, it’s very recognizable and you cannot mistake it.
I think this is the first time I've seen spirit and condor in the same sentence, but for sure, it's an eye-catching livery! That's why it won best new livery last year at our awards!
I know I`m a bit late to the party, but Condor`s flight to Malè is (as far as I know) the only non stop flight from Germany to the Maldives. Eurowings Discover (which isn't Eurowings anymore just Discover) stopped their route from Frankfurt to Malè.
Are the pajamas for just the larger seats at the front of the business class cabin?
They are one of the benefits for those in prime seats only (the front row)
I liked this video overall.. my one gripe is that I found your voice over a little quiet , so I turned up the volume on my iPhone , only for the loud parts of the backing music to ‘blast out’ way more than I felt comfortable with.. the music was all tasteful though imho.. thanks for your work…’I Will Subscribe’ 😅😅😅
Check out my latest video, hopefully the levels are better... ;-)
I wish I could travel that way. No washroom tour?
Great Job! My wife and I are looking to travel to the Maldives from Seattle next year with Miles from Alaska airlines, we have been trying to book flights with Qatar with no success getting business class, now looking to book using Condor business class, is there two types of business class on Condor's A330-900 Neo ?
There is just one cabin layout but two seating types, the front row is the “prime seat” with slightly more space and amenities but it’s all business class at the front.
We just booked our trip through Alaska airlines miles plan on this plane for a total cost of 130k miles, Business for two people Seattle/Frankfurt/Male , we called Condor to upgrade to the prime seats and was told that the cost would be $360 us per person per flight for a total cost $ 1,440 ......We will just have to rough it in regular Business class. Thank you again for your great review , we were not even looking at Condor until we saw your video !@@thedesignairvideo
One note, we are flying to LAX to start with , this flight was included in the total miles cost of 65k per person.
Do you know if regular business class seats get pajamas, or is it prime exclusive?
It’s just the prime seats sadly!
Are the food and drinks at the Lounges complimentary ??
They are! Usually most lounges offer everything complimentary and some offer a few top shelf items for a tiny surcharge but those spaces are usually in the US and few and far between
@thedesignairvideo awesome, thanks.. going to Poland in a couple weeks, I got a 4hr layover in SF and an 8hr layover in Frankfurt.. I hope the SF lounge is as nice as the one shown.
@@thedesignairvideodude Condor business class SUCKS !!! why are you lying ?? They didn't even have a lounge that I could have access to
i saw that in the video I use Lufthansa lounge, if I have a business condor ticket can I go?
is condor really a competitor to lufthansa? They used to be essentially part of the lufthansa group. They still are sort of.
Yes, now they have to stand on their own two feet… or undercarriage perhaps
the question here is were they extra nice to you because they knew you were filming or were they nice in general?
This crew didn't know i was filming specifically for them, in fact i always make it a general rule to see how they treat all customers and balance my feedback based on that.
" a little more" for a prime seats means 1.000 € per flight. that´s not "a little more" to me!
But agree with all the other points on the new business class. Really oustanding.
Well ours were just €199-€299 more than regular business class when booked direct with condor
Better table manners than Noel Philips and Paul Lucas put together! 👍
Here’s the thought: condor doesn’t have its own frequent flyer program although there’s my condor
In a nutshell, a much superior product than Lufthansa mainline. What an embarrassment for LH!
Yeah, it's a pretty epic leapfrog on their competitors.
lufthansa is like the depressed friend you have that says he’s gonna turn his life around and make a change for the better than he doesn’t do it
@@moldypizza__given the only reason LH hasn’t launched their new business and first class products yet is because the 777-9 has been delayed for 5 years, I think that’s a little unfair. We would have seen Lufthansa’s new business class about 3 years ago if Boeing was a little more competent.
You should sow your partner 😊
Ohhhh? For sure, next time!
I remember this lounge LOL - worst buffet ever, not even real orange juice. Terrible!
It’s not much better now!
new design looks like a poison snake
GARBAGE.. worst business class ever