HOW CHRIST EMBASSY DESTROYED ME (REBROADCAST)
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- čas přidán 19. 06. 2024
- The second part of the story of Sandra Weatherson who was a staff with Christ Embassy Johannesburg, South Africa for many years. She was sexually and physical abused my many persons in our first part interview...Now this.
Sin has nothing to do with any church. A church is not perfect. You can't judge a church based on individual notoriety.
Not when the church is teaching such convoluted gospel and making the members twice the children of hell.The church should teach what Jesus says and the individual has the choice to walk in it or not. Not the church twisting the word of God to justify their perversity.
Yea, maybe.
However WHEN THE FOUNDATION OF A CHURCH ( leaders ) AND ITS DOCTRINES (teachings) ARE CORRUPT AND UNSCRIPTURAL, then flee from such. But it's your choice. On the judgment day, each person will answer for it. Isn't it
U r grown person no one can tell u what to do with ur body u have some nerve to be blaming the whole church to get likes
U CAN NEVER BRING DOWN CHRIST EMBASSY GLORY TO GOD
@@jeanettewilliamsbrown2958 the devil is a liar,you are a liar. Here in ug, this same sexual immorality is in this Christ embassy too. Really has everything to do with the leaders, I mean lol pastor Chris is divorced, is it biblically right?
The church ain't perfect yes, but that's why we have God's word. If only it'll be taught more, and the pastor's would preach it through their lives.
Before I became a Christian, I knew the life I was living and I knew what a Christian life is all about.. So when I became a Christian, my image of what it is to be a Christian could never be altered by the preachings or teachings of any Pastor.. I believe these people blaming pastors are failing to take responsibility and accountability for their own role in whatever they experienced...
They were made believe that the pastor was the Messiah......
@@juanpueblo316 They still need to take responsibility. Its like telling people that was defrauded by scammers not to take some responsibility. They must take responsibility for being gullible and greedy. If they werent gullible and greedy, no one will scam them. It applies in this situation. People need to understand bible themselves. Its a personal relationship.
@@NumexP insecurity and lack of profound faith lives some people very vulnerable(controllable.manipulable..oppressable.....).. conditions which open up many doors for A b u s e......
Exactly how you blame pastors??? Even Paul encouraged you to go back and readdd
@@aevarealm3262 the main responsibility rest on the abused or those being taken advantage of..... struggling with their own insecurities...low self-esteem searching for some kind of comfort.. protection or belonging.....
Those pastors must not be paded on their shoulders .. for being controlling/ manipulative/conditioners/brainwashers to the most demonic way possible all in the name of their fakest God and hiding behind their made up religious ideology neither...
Choices people make in life sometimes end up not being the best ones...
I'm glad you typed these comments and I have watched the video too.
I attended CE for 2 years and it was for a divine purpose. I really don't judge churches or pastors but you need to live for God by the help of the HolySpirit. I am a minister from another church and really listened to and observed my pastor closely throughout that period, I agreed with a lot of the truth he preached from the bible and his level of spiritual maturity....he preached holiness, spiritual growth, evangelism and talks a lot about the second coming of Christ and why you should be ready for it.
I don't think the sinful life culture is wild spread in all of the worship centers because it actually depends on the pastor in charge.
The truth is that we need to know God personally, accept Jesus Christ genuinely and be humble to surrender to the HolySpirit to teach you the truth and guide you daily.
Jesus is coming soon and on the judgement day, the church or denomination you attend or served in will not matter...if you don't have your name written in the book of life, you have no place in heaven.
Just think about that.
Jesus loves you more than your pastors, denomination or church.
He gave his life for the sake of the church. Love God genuinely and serve God and only Him alone.
What are you saying? "You don't think the sinful life culture is wild spread in all of the worship centers because it actually depends on the pastor in charge." You sound like you are lowkey condoning iniquity. What is bad is bad and should be discouraged, not padded with butter and mayonnaise.
Wow! I really love this point Sade Olawale. The walk with God is personal and we have to walk it with holiness and guard our salvation with fear and trembling. My thoughts are that When one finds themselves in a position to lead people, it can be a great opportunity to lead them God's direction or the devil's direction. When a baby enters into a family "What his/her parents teach them is normally what they take as gospel truth". Hence those who stand in a position of leadership should be careful what they teach and how they lead as it can affect people's destinies. And I'm not saying as pastors or ministers people don't make genuine mistakes, and fall off track once in a while! I think the matter being discussed is when people use their positions as pastors to feed on the flock rather than feed them the correct and healthy meal they should be feeding on. Some pastors have deliberately entered into pacts with the enemy and those who know the truth should actually be pointing out these matters to ensure that many are saved and the Kingdom of heaven be populated rather than the other way round. As leaders we need to point people to the truth, as followers we need also to search the Scriptures for these are the last days and even the very elect will be deceived.
@@redbunnyclassic Yes I believe these things happen, but they are not endorsed by the overall head. They happen when a church begins to experience expansion and growth and the need for people to serve as pastors increase, then different people creep in and begin to mess up the system. People that are not ready to pattern their lives after he character of Christ. empathize with such churches,but I think what is lacking is a reporting system where there can be checks and balances, and timely interventions before issues get out of hand,because truth be said, a man or woman who is not prepared to pay attern his daily life after chrust, does not have any business being a pastor or Church head. They end up as a shame to the body of Christ.
@@masterly-copy Well said.
@@redbunnyclassic I was wondering the same exact thing. Its this behavior that has made the church as powerless as it can be. Everybody says you need to know Jesus, but how would people know if there's no one to show/guide them? Nobody was born "born again" we all had to accept Jesus and we all need to be shown the right way so whether only one branch of a ministry is in error, our hearts should break because that one branch = souls.
Pastor Chris has a video that made it rounds on youtube on how masturbation is not a sin, so go figure.
My thing is why would leadership have the nerve to openly practice immorality?
Its because there is no accountability.
The church grows in numbers not statue, chalantans mount our altars and we don't even know it or we sit back and say nothing because we don't want to judge or too busy focusing on ourseleves instead of the body of Christ, which He paid for with His blood.
Preachers should be held accountable for the damage they cause to the house of God. What I mean is that; if a preacher has not dealt with the spirit of lust & its such; he needs to be exposed and made to sit down until he overcomes.
Too many young believers have been derailed by such preachers. *Smh
It takes a whole lot of courage to come out like this. God bless you my sister.
MON JUN 03 2024
TO KNOW HIM IS TO LOVE HIM
But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us (Romans 5:8).
How God loves man; think about what we just read! It brings to mind a related message in 2 Corinthians 5:19; it says, “To wit, that God was in Christ, reconciling the world unto himself, not imputing their trespasses unto them….” Hallelujah!
Certain folks don’t like it when we preach and teach about the love of Christ and how God isn’t holding anyone’s sins against them. They say we’re giving people a license to do wrong; but how could that be? The love of Christ never gives anyone liberty to sin.
The truth is that the more you learn about the Lord, the more you love Him; to know Him is to love Him. And the more you love Him, the less you want to do anything that’s offensive to Him. That’s the fact! The Bible says, “Or despisest thou the riches of his goodness and forbearance and longsuffering; not knowing that the goodness of God leadeth thee to repentance?” (Romans 2:4).
Notice that it doesn’t say, “The judgments of God make men repent and love Him.” All He ever does is love, help and bless us. It’s that love that we reciprocate. The Bible says, “We love him, because he first loved us” (1 John 4:19). So, it’s not true that the love of Christ makes people want to do wrong and think they can get away with it. No! He enjoins us to take advantage of His grace and love, but not against Him; not to do wrong. His Word demands that you abstain from sin. Romans 6:1-2 says, “…Shall we continue in sin, that grace may abound? God forbid. How shall we, that are dead to sin, live any longer therein?”
No one deliberately hurts or offends the one who loves them genuinely. God said in Jeremiah 31:3, “…Yea, I have loved thee with an everlasting love: therefore with lovingkindness have I drawn thee.” Think about that! The result of His love for us is that we love Him in return. And because we love Him, we keep His Word; we do what He wants. That’s what Jesus said: “If you love Me, keep My commandments” (John 14:15 NKJV). No one gets to truly know Jesus, how loving He is, without loving Him.
The Bible says we know He loves us from the message He sent to us, and we received that message and came into fellowship with Him. Now that you’re in fellowship with Him, all you want to do is to walk worthy of Him, pleasing Him in all things.
I don't know what this channel is about and why it popped up on my screen. But I read the comments and I have an idea of what's going on here. Salvation is personal and the sister right here is yet to receive Christ as her personal saviour. Don't be deceived, the rapture of the church of Christ is at hand. The time of these types of games is over. Just be serious about your salvation.
Lol, you just said it's personal and went ahead to conclude she's not saved. 😂😂😂😂
Obviously... God bless you
Sandra will miss rapture of the church
So well put ! Lots of these videos are doing the devil's work with people being used blind to it.
My best friend is a pastor of that church,i admire her life style so holy,so righteous so deeply rooted in to the word,her kids are well ethical and morally and spiritually vibrant.
One thing i know is that a church is not a place for perfect people but a place for perfecting individuals.
I am neither for nor against Christ Embassy but for the Word of God which says:
God will not be mocked!!!!
Bless you for that
Really sorry for the sister if she did have that unseemly encounter. What people must know is that even among the twelve disciples that followed Jesus, there was Judas. There are sheep and wolves among the pastors in all denominations. While the leadership of the church must try hard to weed out the bad eggs among them, the responsibility is on you to know the truth for yourself and be set free. Stop to always blame the church or the pastor without yourself taking responsibility for the action or inaction.
It must be recognized also that among the members, there are agents hobnobbing in the church to tempt pastors and other brethren to make them fall. I do not think it makes sense if someone keeps engaging in a horrible or sinful act, and rather than the person checking himself/herself, the person is blaming and accusing others for his/her engagement in that behavior as if he/she was coerced or made to do it under duress.
Let the wheat and weed grow together until the judgement day where finally there will be separation. For now, stuff like this cannot be unfounded in our existence. Study the Word, borrow yourself sense and open your eyes!
VOLUME!!!!
Well said
Thanks man of God 👍
Thanks Solomon and Sandra. I am glad the likes of Arch Bishop Tutu were not hypocrites. Neither did they believe in religious bigotry nor exploitation of the most vulnerable in society. They were true crusaders for social justice and advocated for the least among us.
Arch Bishop Tutu was a trash of a clergyman why he is even being celebrated is a mystery
You mean the same Tutu who advocated for homosexuality which the Bible is against? Or perhaps a different person
Tutuuuuuu🤣🤣🤣🤣 good for you, continue in tutu's doctrines and you'll sure meet him where he is😁
Everything Sandra is saying is true. I am in Nigeria and I served with CE in 2010 and believe me, CE choked me a whole lot. Emptied my account once on the basis of some massive brain washing. My academics was in shambles... most of CE members in school have extra yearsssss. It was such an imbalance life.... we raised money for pastor's birthday, practically force us to by RoR and then give it out for free... listen to only pastor's message.... inshort, Sandra is saying nothing but the truth here! pure truth!
I was in. Blw… it wasn’t easy
If you check well, 90% of people who leave have the exact same story. Why is that? It's because the truth can't be hidden. Even if people try to hide it.
Any church dogma that keep you off Christ Jesus has keep you in spiritual boundage and your spiritual doors is open to their power to push you here and there for the benefits of them alone and these happen your life will take a new turn downwards but you will think you are moving upwards and forwards only by the time you leave the church is then you will the reality of where you are.
Christianity is not a religion is The Kingdom of The Eternal King on the Earth.
You were not doing it by faith dear so rest
God bless you sir for standing in the truth
I don't belong to Christ Embassy, but sexual immorality is not a church thing but depends with individuals. I think in different churches there are both committed Christians and also rotten elements. Sometimes we may think some churches are better because we are human, we don't really know every individual's life style. We are sometimes deceived by outward appearance, but it's only God who really knows a person's heart.
In this case we can't really label the church but look at it from an individual level.
i totally agree with you, sexually immorality has to do with a person but i hope she recovers
You were probably hanging out with bad company. I had a life changing experience in Christ Embassy. I understood the Doctrine of righteousness and this liberated me. The Doctrine of the new creation empowered me. I keep recording amazing testimonies day in day out from the application of God's word. You didn't listen well or perhaps you have mischief at heart.
I also used to be a member of Christ Embassy for 10 years. I've never regretted my stay in CE. Throughout my years in CE I didn't have sex. As a single brother, I stayed completely clean and pure. Some of these our sisters didn't listen well and still don't listen well. They are victimized through their own lust by THE CORRUPT PASTORS AMONGST THE GOOD ONES. NOT ALL CE PASTORS ARE CORRUPT. BUT DEFINITELY SOME OF THE LEADERS AND PASTORS ARE CORRUPT. THIS IS NOT PECULIAR TO CE ALONE BUT TO ALL CHIRCHES AND EVERY ORGANIZATION. IT'S ALWAYS A MIXED MULTITUDE. SO YOUR EXPERIENCE DOESN'T DEFINE CHRIST EMBASSY. TD JAKES YOUNG DAUGHTER WAS IMPREGNATED BY A DECON IN THE CHURCH. HOPE YOU GET IT NOW? MIXED MULTITUDE. USE YOUR HEADS SAINTS. PASTOR CHRIS'S FATHER ELDER APOSTLE TIMOTHY OYKHILOME TAUGHT US TO USE OUR HEADS. HE SAID EVEN IN THE HOUSE OF GOD, CHOOSE YOUR COMPANY CAREFULLY. HE TAUGHT US A LOT.
Thank you!!! God bless you abundantly...
Our pastors often warn us of bad weeds in the church too.
Exactly 💯
I agree with you...
Christmas embassy has changed my life positively honestly
me too but I know that all she said is true. God can use anyone but he will also show you when that season is over
For those saying ce changed their lives positively, TB Joshua changed my live positively and he was deep into sorcery
@@jacksonzahemenamangey1126How did TB Joshua Change your life?
Me too I stopped fornication in christ embassy
The members worship Pst Chris way too much. One said, Pst Chris is the best teacher in the world. I rebuked her immediately by telling her that the best teacher in the world is the Holy Spirit. God will help us . Thanks
I was in that church in 2005, I had the same argument with their congregants...Ps Chris is their God!
It is just your jealous
God bless you.
@@melkizedekanthony1834 you're funny. When the truth is spoken you attribute it to jealousy! Hear me; Pst Chris Oyakhilome is not God and he is not the greatest teacher! The greatest teacher is the Holyspirit and the Bible says he( the holyspirit) will teach us all things. Go and read your Bible and free yourself.
The Holyspirit is not just the Best teacher but the greatest however He teaches us through men like Pastor Chris and other wonderful Teachers of the world. So it's not wrong if any of his members tagged him the best teacher of the Word neither is it wrong if they follow his ways of ministry.
Apostle Paul said and I qoute; be ye followers of me even as I also am of Christ. 1Corinthians 11:1.
I think people who have social media platforms should use it for something better and not always attacking the Church and men of God. It's a little wonder anyway because they have loads of stupid people who are liking them and commenting to their advantage. All these ladies who come out chanting rubbish stuffs against the church and men of God are the lowest of the lows.
Preach Sandra. Your final statement 8s on point. We must be loyal only to Jesus, not pastors or prophets. God 2ill not have it anymore. All fake 0astors and prophets will be exposed. Jeremiah 23.
I had a friend (her soul rest in peace), she attended Christ Embassy in Randburg. She was so brainwashed to a place where when I invited her for a seminar at the Church I attended she could not believe that our pastor was "so anointed" - She was made to believe that the only "anointed pastors" belong to CE. It's so sad.
Lol... Yes. I agree with this comment of yours, that brethren at Christ Embassy church think there are no anointed ministers at other churches.
It's so Ludicrous that they think that way.
People of different denominations have the same belief about their Pastors. Why trying to sound like it's only peculiar to CE.
@@jiddec
Well... It's that its so much so pronounced amongst many of the brethren from there.
It's a myopic way of thinking.
@@osariemenagbontaen6128
Someone else will make the same assertion about another denomination
@@jiddec
That's if the brethren from some other denomination acts same way.
That's it.
My life has been radically changed since I encountered the video of pastor Chris back in 2006. Even though I am not from his church, I really respect pastor Chris anointing, and I think you advise you to stop doing what you are doing. We have a lot to do out there by preaching the gospel. This is really bad.
You are literally saying no victims should speak out because your personal life has benefitted.
O foolish Galatians
@@Ken-kr4sr Like you right? If there are benefits of something why then are people victims of that same thing? Because they let themselves be. As far there are benefits of something, a sad experience like hers wouldn't change the fact there are benefits. A church is meant for the benefits of the members. Benefits from the Word of God It would have been better she told people to be careful in the church than to say the church which people are being blessed by destroyed her life. The same way she claims it destroyed her life, that person claims the church blessed her life so its balanced. Victims speaks out, testifier also speaks out. Why then would you focus more on being a victim than being a beneficiary? The church may have in one form blessed her because it has blessed others. She may have changed her mind because of that sad encounter but it doesn't change the fact that the church does not destroy other peoples lives
I live in Europe and i realized that they all said “ Pastor Chris said “. And i wondered about what Jesus said.Some men bleached, some had treated hair and asking for money was over board.You would basically be working to enrich the church and they would say that you are lucky to be there because that’s the only church that was teaching the gospel well.There was a lot of manipulation using God’s word.It takes a lot of courage to leave that church and and so glad i made that decision.
It has all the hallmarks of a cult. Please pray for those whose eyes are darkened. in the last days there are seducing spirits and doctrines of devils to lure people away from the TRUTH of the gospel.
Hhhhmmm!!!!
@@rhemawilliams4983 It is the hallmark of stupidity.
True...Pastor Chris is mentioned more than Jesus Christ
The king of kings is coming very soon. sister Jesus is coming very soon .
I love this sister for honestly saying we are led away by our desires aka the flesh.
The prosperity messages killed the church.
It's good that she is talking so that those finding it difficult to leave can do so.
Depending on the preachers and their ministry
Exactly
Every spirit of deception in any house claiming God, be bound in the name of Jesus Christ.
Which church is perfect? There is a mixture of people in CEC and these people come from different backgrounds I think we should also consider that. This is a global ministry and the devil will definitely fight it using different sins
There is nothing like the grace to sin. Those pastors need to repent, haebo.
How are you
You need Jesus! You know very well you are lying. May the Lord have mercy on you people.
Who is lying here please
@@sundayih7269 You are asking who please?
Yes
Just saw this video and decided to share my thoughts...
I have been in Christ Embassy all my life and I have been tremendously blessed because I "decided" to focus on God.
I have seen people like this troop in and out of Church most especially when they dont get it their way; most especially when they come in with odd motives. This always happens with females...think about this for a second. The reason is most women are easily manipulated, influenced by and used of the devil. They come into churches, seduce Pastors and leaders, seduce married men, fight unnecessarily for positions, cause problems here and there, and later go about speaking negatively about churches.
Please think about these questions:
1) Did the pastor, Leader, member force you to have sex with them?
2) Let me assume you were forced, why didnt you report to the authorities?
The reason is because you agreed to all of these; you consented; you encouraged it. You actually spread your legs wide open for anyone to have sex with you without condom (That says alot about you)... smh
So dont sin and blame it on the church.
Work on your salvation personally with fear and trembling because at the end of the day, God will judge you personally and not through a church.
Stop this nonsense today!!!
You seem not to see the problem , why would an “anointed man of God “ even nurture thoughts of sleeping with a member ! Forget that she consented to it, that’s actually the problem here
I have been a leader(Church secretary to be specific) in Christ embassy and pastor's PA at some point. In conclusion you no well
Sister sleeping with someone is by choice and you were not raped,as a result u were careless not even using Condoms. What you are doing is not good go to church for good reason not for money maybe u were seducing Pastors and everyone that slept with you….. Unilever Maan
@@jacksonzahemenamangey1126 he no well one bit, justifying sleeping with members
Am listening to both of you with kin interest, even though there are eliminate of truth in what you're saying but there's a lot lies intermingled with what you're saying. I was with Christ embassy for six years before I started my ministry, I strongly believe in the revelation of the new creation as taught by pastor Chris from the bible because they are bible doctrine. I believe in remission of sin, I believe in the doctrine of imputation of righteousness, and understanding my rights in Christ which has really helped me. I don't subject my body to sin because I know that I have the life of Christ in me. There are so many wrong stuffs going on there like we have in any other churches, but there also many good things going on there also. I listened about you talking about pursuing holiness like it's something you can earn by your efforts, then I knew why was easy for you to be deceived because you also don't understand the gospel of Jesus Christ even till now. I don't support anyone who is using the grace of God as an occasion to do something wrong, but your coming out to speak is not also from a sincere heart from most of what I've heard you say. Even the guy interviewing her is more interested in talking against the church than helping people break free from fornication. He's more interested in viewership than anything else
@ Pastor Martin James, faith without works is sin and a well cannot bring forth both bitter and sweet water. Every good Christian will ask for grace to put under this flesh which is our greatest enemy, but not to swim in sin intentionally and then try to justify it.
Perfect.@ Pastor Martin
I totally agree with you Pastor Martin. Everyone in church knows that God hates sin, this lady going on a fornication spree is her choice and this happens in every church. It does not make that same church a place where they were no ladies who kept their decency and truthfully worshipped God. How about she mentions these Pastors names instead of implying fornication is taught in the church, I am convinced there were also pastors in that church who were not a part of the rot. The gospel of grace really needs to be understood by those who profess Christ these days. It is freedom, not a license for foolishness.
We are to pursue holiness according to the Bible - but our salvation is only through faith in Christ! This "church" has institutionalised sin. It worships mammon. By their fruits you shall know them!
They are out to destroy the church and unfortunately they have God to deal with, the church was build on the rock and even the gates of hell shall never destroy it so who are they to do that? All I know is that if you have a thing with your brethren you follow the Biblical procedure you don't go around hanging their dirty laundry in public so as their souls won't be lost during those trialsin their lives
This is heartening! So ridiculous. Thanks sis for being bold to speak up.
Sorry for your experience . Perhaps you moved with the wrong circle.my experience was life changing and I had deep relationship with the Holy Spirit. My family has been abundantly blessed. My thoughts and prayers for you.
I'm glad you typed these comments and I have watched the video too.
I attended CE for 2 years and it was for a divine purpose. I really don't judge churches or pastors but you need to live for God by the help of the HolySpirit. I am a minister from another church and really listened to and observed my pastor closely throughout that period, I agreed with a lot of the truth he preached from the bible and his level of spiritual maturity....he preached holiness, spiritual growth, evangelism and talks a lot about the second coming of Christ and why you should be ready for it.
I don't think the sinful life culture is wild spread in all of the worship centers because it actually depends on the pastor in charge.
The truth is that we need to know God personally, accept Jesus Christ genuinely and be humble to surrender to the HolySpirit to teach you the truth and guide you daily.
Jesus is coming soon and on the judgement day, the church or denomination you attend or served in will not matter...if you don't have your name written in the book of life, you have no place in heaven.
Just think about that.
Jesus loves you more than your pastors, denomination or church. Love God genuinely and serve Him and only Him alone.
@@SadeOlawale Amen. Continue to stay focused and remain blessed.
@@SadeOlawale same comment again 🙄 this is beginning to look like template response. Copy and paste project. Please say something else.
She is telling the truth I used to go that church and sleeping around is normal and it’s not even talked about .
True ...used to shock me that some of my friends who went to that church were promiscuous compared to me as a non-believer.
Thank you Sandra
Which church doesn’t have people sleeping around lol bye
I am go to Christ Embassy. What are you taking about .Na lie
So since you where sleeping around 😂so you blame church for that lol me I stop fornication in christ embassy I thank God for using Pastor chris Good teacher
I worked in Christ Embassy that place will drain you emotionally, mentally, financially and physically, I pity those who are still there believing that if they leave their lives will be cursed
Not true
You did out of faith
@@AdelaideMaponya-ie7un Thankyou.
Thanks for your pity. No apologies
It takes special grace of God to be free from the spell of Oyakilome. Congratulations.
All my Christian life I've been a member of christembassy, what she's saying is true for all Christian gatherings but to say that it's a christembassy doctrine to be sinful it's not true. The only thing I see here is, this channel needs the ministry name to be popular and the lady is just be bitter since she couldn't get what she wanted.
Study the word for yourself, give for yourself and be a Jesus person not seeking attention everywhere. Please Sandra, follow Jesus and forget this ranting. Cut your lose and move on!
Every gathering has its own bad eggs.
God bless you richly for this your point. There are things that aren't peculiar to one denomination.
God bless you
God bless you my dear
If it is true in your church where you worship Oyakilome, it is true in my Church. Tufiakwa.
She is absolutely right about this happening in Christ Embassy. One of the alledged reason Pastor Chris marriage broke down.
A thin line exist between honour and idolizing men of God .One has to be careful in terms of testing the spirit and pray for the spirit of discernment .....
From what I gathered listening, this lady didn’t know CHRIST for herself. There are people in all churches who do wrong by twisting scripture. How can she say you have grace to sin, which Christian will accept this. She was a church goer and not necessarily a Christian. She says deep down in her heart she knew it was wrong and still stayed long before leaving.
Judging her in this way is not right, true, she came to church with the desire to know Christ, and that is the christ they taught her. This is a trap. By the devil, but by the Grace of God she learnt the truth and had the courage to talk about it!
I doubt because I've been a member and still am though haven't heard of anything like this. And what I have been taught by Pastor Chris and my regional pastor is that Christ is a place: a place of peace, and righteousness, a place where every promise of God is fulfilled in Jesus our Lord so I wouldn't say that is the Christ "they" taught her. the "they " is the person in question
Because it's business center she joined and have no idea who christ Jesus is
@@DonDavid-pk4hq 😂😂😂😂
Read your Bibles people and work out your own salvation and God will lead you. Draw near to him and he will draw near to you IJN
This is so true CE is emotionally and financially draining. The marriage part is so true too but i never followed it.I thank God i left early before i got too deep
Bless you for leaving early
I burnt about 8 books on 2016 that I bought on christ embassy i was never a member but was a fan of Chris until I realized it was wrongly indoctrinating me and and verses used on it were out of context
I threw mine too. Something in me just said throw them books away of Christ Embassy my foot.
How did you come to this conclusion of wrong doctrines? Can you prove it from the Bible?
I am sorry for you. Did you place it side by side with the Word of God? Because Jesus said test the scriptures to know whether they are of God. You test them to know the spirit of truth and of error. Who are you to talk about out of context. Did you check if those scriptures existed in Bible and if the translation was correct?
Uncle Sol the Devil has creep into the church and he has appointed his ministers , they look like us and they also speaks like us and also preah, praises like us, even walk like us , the only defferance is the fruits that they bear
Thanks Sandra for such a powerful Testimony...may God protect you and continue to use you to speak the truth.......
Thank you both for speaking out
I have left christ embassy but I served long enough to know that you can actually grow in the ministry without being psycho fans of pastor chris. He is for sure a teacher. Of course when people are not mature they say things an it's obvious when they speak. This lady is focusing on psycho fancy and not the spirit to grow spiritually. I spent 11 years in the ministry before I left. They don't celebrate sin like she's saying ,it's just that when you sin that does not make you a sinner remembering ".....sin does not have dominion over you". I know there are excesses in the ministry to push members to meet targets but your maturity should tell you that it's not mandatory to give. If you are maturing in the things of God you will enjoy the ministry. All what I have said are not gain sayings.
You are still influenced by all you have heard in the 11 years you spent there! A great teacher is a great weapon in the hand of the devil, because he knows when, how, where to chip in his devilish doctrine that people will not easily notice it, except he or she that has the spirit of discernment! So if there is a problem with any part of doctrine of this church, it means the church belongs to the devil! Chi kena!
Ah ah ah. Who has deceived our people. When you sin, you are not a sinner😂🤣🤣 oh olodo. Go and read your bible thoroughly. Because you are clearly deceived. This how they preach no body is perfect or holy. Olodos again. It is written be ye holy for i am holy. We are called to be perfect. But foolish galatians overuse grace to continue sinning. When you truly love God, you will make the conscious effort not to sin. And if you do, you get up repent and not return to your vomit. This is when the fruits of Spirit become evident in a believers life. So many xtrians will not make it on judgement day as they are lukewarm.
@@angiesspace2644 you know the bible so we'll yet you're calling someone OLODO. SMH.
Yes he's right. We sin christians but sin doesn't rule over us.
Under the covenant of grace, Christ has cleansed us so even when we sin as believers, we are not condemned.
Once we feel condemned as sinners the devil uses it against us. The Bible says he is the accuser of brethren.
Yes there are excesses to the doctrine but it is biblical
true
@@beeyusuf834 the olodo is me being playful. However, the truth still remains. Grace does not mean you sin. Willful sin will not be tolerated and there consequences. God will not be mocked. 90% of so called believers engage in willful sin. These will be spat out on that day.
Beautiful that she can finally free herself from this vicious circle. Ps 51: 1-19..
Kanti ke igrace make us not to sin..The right dividing the word of God will reveal that..We need the churches whereby u can get the knowledge a grow in revelation of him.
I respect her situation and I’m deeply concerned about her recovery.
We must understand one thing and that is if the foundation is destroyed, what can the righteous do?
We have a foundation which are fundamental principles on which our faith is built upon. CEC is a global ministry made up of different people with diverse foundation. For example my foundation was born out of discipline of AGC and CASOR while in campus. Some may come from traditional homes or have adulterous past and all get converted but with an itchy ear.
Over the years if it’s not nipped at the bud, u become deception to urself by developing a doctrine that soothes ur conscience. Even the message of righteousness sounds like a license to sin. Even where the Bible says ‘how shall we who are dead in sin live any longer there in ‘ no longer holds water in ur consciousness cos you’ve relegated it to the background.
The point is this , we have the Bible as our tool and no one is the owner of the church except Christ. They have been cases where favoritism and nepotism was creeping in love world music and pastor had to come in to set a new trajectory so as to let love lead.
The ministry is not perfect yet and that is why reviews are often made even in the revelation of God’s word to us in a bid to bring us to Gods desired place for us individually and as his church. Pastor have said it plainly that the end is near. Study is tone, whenever question on heaven and earth is asked. It is definitive : use God’s word to cure yourself.
There is ONE mediator between God and man, the Man Christ Jesus 🙌
Sad my wonderful 2 nieces were so sold out to Christ Embassy and it's true there is an Aura of these ppl being superior than other's 😂🎤🎤🎤
Please with all these church prosicutions,who can we trust as a pastor,or which house or building can we enter as a church to worship?
Rather trust in GOD, ask Him and He will tell you which of them is true or not.
Thank God for Sandra... for God has turned her captivity to a mission to DESTROY the works of wickedness
I was there, the paster wanted my partner, but I pray for real, and I prayed for him to be exposed, it did not take a month before he was exposed, and fired. But the spirit in CE is evil, I had already sensed it even before that.
1John 4 vs 1 Test the spirits whether they are of God. Did you test it before you came out to speak? You only sensed?🙄
Remember the church started in various institutions of Higher Learning in Nigeria as "Believers' Love World" - where every form of sexual wickedness was taking place; and like the butterfly/moth, it went through metamorphosis and became "Christ Embassy" It has always been a cult that originated from 'Babylon' - Nigeria. I have always had my reservations for that ministry
Better pray for God to have mercy on you. You have no solid proof of it.
God bless you for knowing that
God revealed all those fake people to me for using the name of God in vain
Oh! Are you talking about ANTICHRIST Embassy? It did not take me more than 5 minutes of listening to Chris Oyakhilome on TV (NTA Kaduna) in 1998 to conclude that the grace he spoke of was not that of my LORD and Saviour, Jesus Christ. I switched off my TV because NTA was the only channel available then.
I am not surprised at what Sandra is saying.
I have never been one to go in a pentecostal church for any reason. There is nothing any pastor ( pentecostal) will put on his tongue that will make me change my mind.
Years back, a banker was giving large sums of money to christ Embassy. Later it was found d he had embezzled N44.000.000, from the bank. Chris said he was going to give back what he had given the church. Later, he said he wouldn't give back because the guy was not forced to do it. IMAGINE.
And from where did you get that information? Did you source for if its true?
This took too damn long to come out... that church is toxic...Ps Chris is a god to those people and he loves that!
Are you in his mind to know what he thinks? It's better you stay silent than to speak against a man of GOD whether he is real or not.
Virtually every command of scripture to the Christian for righteousness n holiness is taken by ce as a confession. This is d grand trick by which Oyakhilome prosecutes his alternative Gospel. D trick is so smooth any person illiterate in the scriptures can be quickly fooled. And when d fringe benefits served with it is gross immorality n all that, hardly anyone can be spared
Because thats the principle. Didn't the Bible say that the inhabitants of God's city Zion SHALL not SAY "I am sick". (Isaiah 33 24) So what then do you say "I am not sick and cannot be sick." Why did Romans 10 vs 9-10 say "with the MOUTH, CONFESSION is made unto salvation." Check it up. You are the illiterate. If confession is needed for salvation, it means confession is important. Confession is an affirmation of something. Why are you then offended with the congregation affirming what God has said about them. Why do pscychologists say speak positively? They are speaking positively for themselves, instead of you to do same, you get angry at those doing because in your eyes, it is a so called alternative gospel.😑😑😑 Man God have mercy on you. Hebrews 4 vs 14 says let us hold fast our CONFESSION. You didn't hear the scriptures backed up with the preachings you call it alternative gospel. Is it not in the BIBLE?
Good Sendra.God bless you cc
People love pastors more than God. We need to put God first and "work out our salvation with fear and trembling".
Then that 'love' is not the God kind of love. You should specify the type of people you speak of
I left Christ Embassy (UK) after a year when they gave someone a trophy for being the biggest giver. I feel vindicated now that I've heard you talk about it as it's bothered me for years. The life size portraits of Oyakhilome at the front of the church made me very uncomfortable throughout the time I was there.
Also a nephew of mine is in Christ Embassy and refused to name his baby after his father became Christ Embassy forbids. I asked him how come Chris's children are called Oyakhilome then!!!..
She's telling the truth, I know her and I can attest her
Lies! I've never heard where they hv to use his surname
@@brittanyraquel6565 May Jesus open your blinded eyes.
truth revealed
🤣🤣🤣this is laughable. Really? And yet my children were all named after my father inlaw, pls look for something else to say.
This is a very SAD tale of what is going on in some churches! End of days and Satan's time is UP!!
This is so sad,knowing God for ourself is so important .People who are not strong in the faith can be left behind n denounce the faith.Alot is happening ,in churches and homes concerning sexual immorality.The Devil is decieving many.God help us
Thank you dear brother and sister from sharing. It is clear that you were exposed to carnal christians /pastors who clearly did not follow the scriptures. I am in christ embassy and i have seen and experienced these same things you are talking about. However, these things happen in other churches. That is why, we must pray for everyone especially for christians to change and come back to their first love, Jesus. In these last days, God is correcting a lot of things and Pastor Chris has been calling on people to change their ways as well as thinking and moving forward as a unified church. Let us pray that God's children receive his correction and move in His ways.
Very well said.
I agree with you 💯
God bless you.
Some years ago my sister said she had a dream ,she saw muiltude of people and is Christ embassy and a voice said not even one of them is save after some many years the truth is coming out it's quite unfortunate that they gather people and make them candidate of hell
Question is who the dream came from cause it is certainly not from God
God bless this sister immensely. Jesus love found her. And Has given her peace for speaking the truth. My love of Christ to her. The Holy Spirit will direct you in knowing Him personally Amen.
But surely, this sister is not telling the truth...the Rhapsody has one year or 2 year bible reading plan...so u actually read the Bible easily using the Rhapsody coz there is a chronology....regarding the sexual immorality, I think the sister and all the men that she got involved with were being led by their own desires....Pastor Chris has never condoned any sexual issues using the Grace message.....I am in christ Embassy and I have never been into any sexual behaviour.
May God bless her too but I don't think Jesus' love found her because if it did, her concern would be winning souls not poisoning peoples minds. It'd have been better she was in the video talking about Jesus' unfailing love as it would have been her priority.
She blocked the path for His love to find way to her heart. I am not being a judge here but if the love of God is truly at heart she would rather talk about it than inform us why she left a church and persuade others in leaving. The local assembly is a choice for everyone. I sincerely sympathize with her if what she said true. Do not forget that judgment would first be in the House of God. God is not mocked, for He would judge at the end of it all. So its better you leave judgment to His hands than to agree with someone saying awful things about a church don't forget its the body of Christ. Focus on your personal salvation and how to share with others not spread bad news about a place people go to worship God because of an experience there.
Sister Sendra is Sum1 so good at heart i used to greet her in Christ Embassy Randburg church office... I believe her on all of this and i did listen to her story last year it's exactly as God showed me in a dream that most youth people will expose Christ Embassy for what it is
This is ritual aspect of life religious leader involved in to deceive both ladies and gentlemen for them have power,fame and wealth.My daughter you greatly need Christ Jesus in you.They are ritualist, wolf in sheep clothing. Thanks
Are you sure it was God that told you. Dreams can also mislead fyi
God Bless you Sister. I thank God for all your experiences is for the Glory of God. And i know only God can heal you completely. Truth like this needs to be exposed to weaker minded people. So they get the knowledge of God. You're a courageous women the generation needs you. God bless you Mma
Thank u Sandra . Holiness holiness holiness thank u for this revelation. We love u.
Yaa this is really toxic. I thank God for this lady testifying
Appalled really....small jackals ruin the vineyard....bad company ruins good character...even being friends with Pastors allowing and doing this ...makes you think that this is ok ...God helps us all..thanks for His Grace Amen tx MOG
Thank you so much Sandra, i always feel very sorry for people who cannot pray for themselves but expecting a hand to be laid over their head. To God be the Glory, only true Christians are willing to lock doors and worship the true God
What shall we say then? Shall we continue in sin , that grace may abound ?
God forbid.
Paul was saying no, we must not continue to sin
God bless you dear Sis.... We thank Him for rescuing you.... May The LORD God Almighty restore to you the years that was wasted in the Mighty Name of Jesus Christ.
When there is a wrong church, there should be the true one
Hearing what Sandra has to share, does frustrate me so much as much as I am so so familiar with all this which was the very reason I left this other church,’ same things and now I will never do any African church not anymore. All she says is very true, she was brain washed with evil spirits! Sandra I pray you dear, with time you’ll heal, I healed and God received me
Everything this lady is saying is very true.. I too saw all this thing first hand..
Wow! Thanks for sharing. GOD is opening people's eyes.
Whose God is opening your eyes. Be care ful
The truth shall set you free my dear.
The word of God has never destroyed anybody, if you were in Christ Embassy & was destroy you choose the wrong path because since I came to Christ Embassy 20219 my life change all round.
God bless you Sandra, God will defend.I love you dear.
Nothing is hidden. The all knowing God knows everything.
People must stop protecting what they don't know.
So, why did God allow this sister to suffer if He can help. That's not what the Bible says. The Bible says that God answers everyone who asks.
@@ewessyo you are talk as if there is no Enemy in this world! Are your all prayers just answered like that? Then you are special one!!
@@fjhkerwoiero00 Have you ever asked yourself why are black people the most Religious, but the poorest in the entire world?
@@fjhkerwoiero00 So,do you think that God didn't see what she was going through?
Well said, my take is that you guys should build and grow this vision to the extent that it overshadows CE. Then, you will have achieved a worthwhile goal.
REMEMBER THAT PASTOR CHRIS WIFE CALLED CHRIST EMBASSY A FIVE STAR BROTHEL.
My question to ask is, you saw, what did you do, what was your own part played, do you think speaking the way you do, are you from God's hand? Questions for reflections to my sister in Christ Jesus as we wait the second coming of our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ of Nazareth.
Do you remember Martin Luther?
Sorry for your experience sis but mine is a life changing one. My faith is stronger than before because of cec teachings
Wait until you become a leader or a staff member. You'd loose your salvation if you ain't careful
@@rya_Labs And what do you mean by that?
A bit curious as to what is the reason for the rebroadcast isn't there current topics to cover?
I am happy for the rebroadcast, I would never have learnt about these charlatans! God works in mysterious ways!!
Is the rebroadcast affecting you? Knowledge helps the ignorant!
I'm glad you typed these comments and I have watched the video too.
I attended CE for 2 years and it was for a divine purpose. I really don't judge churches or pastors but you need to live for God by the help of the HolySpirit. I am a minister from another church and really listened to and observed my pastor closely throughout that period, I agreed with a lot of the truth he preached from the bible and his level of spiritual maturity....he preached holiness, spiritual growth, evangelism and talks a lot about the second coming of Christ and why you should be ready for it.
I don't think the sinful life culture is wild spread in all of the worship centers because it actually depends on the pastor in charge.
The truth is that we need to know God personally, accept Jesus Christ genuinely and be humble to surrender to the HolySpirit to teach you the truth and guide you daily.
Jesus is coming soon and on the judgement day, the church or denomination you attend or served in will not matter...if you don't have your name written in the book of life, you have no place in heaven.
Just think about that.
Jesus loves you more than your pastors, denomination or church. Love God genuinely and serve Him and only Him alone.
@@SadeOlawale you have said it all, most of the pastors out there now have personal issues with God, but my take is for everyone to have a connection to God directly and not Thru any proxy or pastor, prophet or whoever! So many are under the influence and manipulation of the god of mammon! We have diverse churches in Nigeria and Africa and there are little to no effect of the church in peoples life!
The truth is bitter, more grace, wisdom and anointing to do his will in Jesus name.
I don't know you guys motives but If you like say a countless things against Christ Embassy, salvation is personal. They are so many churches with flawed people that doesn't make all the denomination flawed. I have attended Christ Embassy churches for almost 20yrs and i haven't experienced any of this in the various churches i attended and served. So u all having this experience are those that are not doing the word, if you are carnally minded you will meet carnally minded people like you in church and carnal Christians don't like being corrected by straight Christians. The Bible is complete, it says "beware of dogs"even in the house; the church. You didn't go there to find Jesus that's why you are in that situation.
I live in the Netherlands. Attended CE for over five years and everything this lady said is very true. One was kicked out in Amsterdam, one is in Den Haag, one is in Eindhoven, one is in Utrecht and the list goes on. These guys are frauds not pastors. I bet you if any of them should read this they'll be shaking and hoping I don't go any further.
God is a moral God . This is what makes Him different from other gods. Whatever is not holy is not of God
Jesus
Make God have mercy on you
Upon
@@brittanyraquel6565 may God open your eyes to see and also deliver you from ignorance.
Thanks Solomon for this expose .The goal isn't to tear ourselves but to empower us ,to educate vulnerable to know the word deeply in this evil times .Come to kenya please and do one expose here
thank u sister keep upright way
They also give awards to those who have given most,partnering was a big deal and people were awarded to by the end of the year.You had to first be talked about Pastor Chris and the church before you fully joined and it was a big deal to graduate.
Did I hear " you have been a Christian for a long time " ? Yet they twisted the BIBLE ? To what language EDO ?
PLEASE let us take responsibility for our ACTIONS
How do people get this close to pastors??
AFTER THE GRACE GO HOME , STOP LOITERING ✋ GO YOUR HOUSE .
On that DAY EVERYONE will give account ( no finger pointing)
Smhhhh🙄
When you don't know what to ask from God, every doctrine will be very good to you, a man at the sheep gate begged for money from those would couldn't help him to solve his problem, but the day he met Peter he got the answer he needed
These issues have always been elicited by different ex-members of the church for years . I can't say if they are true or not. But these issues are becoming too repetitive
God bless you dear. You are free from bondage.
Who has bewitched African millennials to this mumuism level?...what a beautiful lady, your brighter life is right in front of you sister....
Don't fall for your appetite!!!
It's Chris embassy not Christ embassy
Thank you for exposing the truth.
God bless you for sharing your truth
Not only Christ Embassy has that culture of superiority, I think all Christians do. They often believe once you're not a Christian, you are an unbeliever.
Why can't people just focus on the simplest way of life?: being good to others and treat them exactly the way you would like to be treated. Nothing should be difficult in understanding this simple principle.
It's not about works but faith, faith in that Jesus Christ is Lord and that God raised Him from the dead. Romans 10v9
Also, it is impossible to please God with faith. It is therefore not about how good we are, it is not about us. It is about God, the Alpha and Omega. John 3v16
@@tshikaradikotla7850 Confused Dot Com.
The great grandfathers followed "Jesus is coming", and here you are in the same confusion, you'll also go and pass it on to 50 generations after you. "Jesus is coming from generation to generation".
Do the simplest thing for yourself: be good and loving to others, that's what is required of you by your creator God. So, people who lived before Jesus will have no place in heaven.
Olawale... do not get on your high horse about all Christians, not everyone that claim to be Christian is a Christian. A christian is a follower of Jesus Christ and our manual for right living is the Bible the word of God! We cannot disagree with Gods word because some people think we should because it is more loving to agree with every passing fancy of the human race. And just because we disagree does not mean we are hateful people, should I say the true born again Christians. We are only trying to obey Gods word. I'm very sorry for the way some people who say they are Christians are behaving, if I'm a prostitute you cannot accuse all my sisters of being one, just like we cannot accuse all white as being racist or all Moslems are not the same or all Doctors just care that they get paid, while dispensing medications that makes us worse. Just making a point, don't mean to offend
@@ginnafraser6013 exactly my point, whoever that's not a follower of Christ is an unbeliever in the sight of all Christians. You just buttressed what I commented earlier. Simple understanding of humanity is what Jesus taught, whoever that's righteous in their deeds is of Christ, he or she doesn't have to be a follower of Christ. There's no place for ambiguity in this case, something like "don't get on a high horse". Simple way of righteousness, be good and loving, just like Jesus preached. You cannot be malevolent and believe you're a Christian. Benevolence qualifies you as a true Christian.
If you're a Chelsea FC fan, you have to trust in BLUES, Arsenal FC trust in REDS.
@@tshikaradikotla7850 You are wrong. Read Gal 5 from beginning to the end. Jesus in his words said love the lord your God with all your heart, mind and soul. And love your neighbor as yourself. I guess you are a christ embassy member. I was there before. It's all brain washing. Don't be deceived. Apostle paul always talks about faith, but he said. The summary of all the commandments is love your neighbor as yourself. Don't be deceived. The bible talks about modesty. You have to strike a balance. God bless you sir.
It is not as easy as she is making it sound. We don't always know the truth because of being brain washed and the power of influence over the people by pastors is very strong.
Powers from India, sometimes Chris dress like one
@@georgebrown7077 My dear, there is no power from India, only stupid people think of that. I learned meditation from India and they are all catching hell like all of us in Africa.
The only thing created in the image of God is human beings, and as soon as we wake up to understand it everything will start to change.
I went there once en never went back..
Ma God is too 100%..
Merry 2021...!!!
This is heartbreaking to hear & the Abortions make me shudder! May God Heal you Whole... These deceitful workers are going to be exposed, May God have Mercy!!!