Rut Manufacturing 48" Disc Mulcher 100 hour Review
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- čas přidán 3. 11. 2020
- This is a quick 100 hour review with the Rut Manufacturing 48" Disc Mulcher
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I can’t wait to purchase this disc mulcher. I have a lot of 5 to 8 inch pine trees that has to come down for my driveway. Great video.
Hey dude, I've really appreciated your comments and review of the RUT disc mulcher. I'd love to ask you a few questions but not sure how best to connect with you. Actually, now that I think about it, I guess I can send you a question through your website. Anyway, thanks again. Very helpful!
Got my eye on this one, my skid steer has same specs
@East Texas Engineering Thanks for posting these. In deciding what mulcher and loader to buy I like the idea of nimbleness and staying out of cdl and cheaper to get into. In my area I don't think I need the wider swath much because we are just cutting juniper and pinion pine. not real thick growth.. usually just working on one tree at a time. So I think that the 48 should cut as fast as the 60 However, I have never ran either so don't know. Do you find the recovery to be slow at all with your setup on the tl8. Obviously guys talk about wanting the most hp and flow they can get to run mulchers but wonder if you still feel you have found a combination that works real efficiently?
No regrets at all, as far as recovery, it really depends on what your doing. And here is why I reply this way.
Yes with 75hp recovery is slower than a 100 hp but not at all awful and mostly only noticeable with the mulcher and not the heavy brush cutter. I can walk down a 4” pine tree without even slowing this machine down, so recovery is pointless, however oak and hard woods will slow down the disc. This is when recovery plays a roll. 5-6 in pines will start to slow it down but keep in mind most of what your mulching with a skid steer is 2-3” diameter. The weight of the disc itself plays a part in why smaller machines can roll with the big boys. It’s so heavy once spinning it takes a lot of force to slow it down..
I hope this helps.
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Hey, what's your take on the 'sight line' from the operators seat, to the front end? Can the distance for ground-contact be reasonably judged when the front end is tipped down for buzzing stumps? The 'doghouse' motor cover seems quite tall on these. I"m thinking I"ll be doing about 90% 'cut and run' on the bigger cedars, and 10% whole tree mulch on anything shorter than the cab on the skid steer. Thanks!
The Line of sight isn't great. The cover could be much smaller if you actually look at the size of the motor to cover ratio, I believe it was simpler to manufacture a big square than a contoured shape, is my guess. Most disk mulchers you cannot see the exact contact point on the ground regardless of the motor cover. That is where drum mulchers do a better job, its much closer. I hope that helps brother.
yep! thanks for the reply!@@easttexasengineering3489
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great video - question: I am in SW Mississippi, clearing privitt hedge and gum trees - i am pulling them up with a shear and piling and hauling to brush pile to burn - I would like to have a mulcher so I could grind it up in place after I pull them up. I have a Case TV380 with HF - going back in forth between a Loftness L series drum mulcher ($23K) or this 48" Rut Man. Unit ($12K). I only work for myself. I would value your input based on your other videos comparing this unit to drum units. Thank you in advance. Moon M.
I will be 100% up front, disc mulchers work better with trees that are still standing not brush piles. The problem you will have is they truly do throw pieces up to 300 feet and you will find yourself going back and forth chasing the pieces. If the tree was still rooted you can chop the top and just use the bottom of the disc to shred the rest. It’s rare that you will grind a tree sitting on the ground without it being thrown before it’s completely shredded.
I hope this helps.
Respectfully
Ty
Iv been looking at this Mulcher for a year. I have a terminator xp and it works excellent for brush. My question is do you think this 48” head will work well at a 25gpm track loader? I have a 78 hp case tr310b with standard 25gpm flow. I never see anyone running this mulcher less than 33gpm. Just wondered what your thoughts on that were? Thanks in advance.
I know several manufacturers tell customers they built units that will run on low flow, however I would strongly tell you to not waste your money unless you have a higher flowing machine. Yes the disc will run and I use mine in low flow mode sometimes in 2” and smaller brush but any thicker you will have to keep slowing down and waiting for the disc to catch up. Shredding larger trees will be impossible unless your getting paid by the hour than go for it because you will be there for a while.
If you have the termination you can go through mostly the same thickness in brush but those don’t seem to use as much GPM to do the same work. In all respect I take my terminator out more than the disc mulcher because it is faster and still leaves I nice finish.
Just talked to Rut and they sent me here. Good review of drum vs disc, and the TL8 and the Rut disc that I'm considering. Any idea of a accurate weight of TL 8 without fuel, without operator/bucket/mulcher? You said 11,4 which is high, high, high for what I can do. I see the TL as 8300# without operator and bucket, and the Rut is supposed to be 2000# for the 48", so 10,300, which is not 11,400#. I'm looking at weights closely. Thanks.
Sorry it took this long to reply. It’s 8350# track loader, 2500# for the disc mulcher. I carry a tool box 450# on the front of the trailer# and 50 gallons of extra diesel. Pretty close to 11,400 which is what it weighted not counting the gooseneck trailer. I would not use a 1500 in my opinion. 2500 minimum. My Titan XD does added payload capacity and 6” frame rails similar to a 2500. It is used as a backup now since the purchase of my Ram 3500 HO dually. With that said with the Titan XD I never felt like the trailer was too much but I owned a regular Titan prior to the XD and I don’t think the suspension would have been strong enough for this weight. However just my opinion. I know ford has rated the new F150 in this class but you can watch when TFL truck did the test, Titan XD vs F150 towing lots of weight. All they said was the ford was faster up hill but was very unstable vs the Titan XD which controlled the trailer . Best luck brother . It’s a great business
@@easttexasengineering3489 Interesting, and thank you! I will not try a 1/2 ton! 7.3 right now, and I run heavy duty rated tires (E). Safety first!
What do you prefer between the mulcher and the brush cutter? I am looking to clear a bunch of very heavy honey suckle and some brush
If this is for yourself I would go with the heavy brush cutter. 100%. The brush cutter is not a mulcher but will do the same thickness in trees at a much faster rate and take less power from your equipment to run it. I bring both on many jobs and change the head back and forth. It’s truly worth the $3500. I was not bullshitting when I stated to take out 10” trees with the heavy brush cutter. It’s no joke. I use it on both high flow and low flow modes.
I hope this helps
@@easttexasengineering3489 What brush cutter are you refering to? One of the rut's? Do you ever think that you should have a little heavier machine like TL10 to handle the head.. Like on hills? Would you think a brush cutter would do well taking out Juniper. Chip it up relatively well?
@@kurtfrome multiple good questions brother.
I was referring to the rut manufacturing heavy brush cutter. It has the three 10” inch wide blades.
The heavy machine carrying the same cutter works to a disadvantage going up hill because the TL10 and TL8 have the same drive system. You can observe this by looking at the accessory flow rate on the TL10 is slightly lower than the TL8 due to the hydraulic drive motor needing more flow to drive the unit. Also I chose a radial lift machine which lifts more weight than a vertical lift. We use our TL8 to lift 5,000 machines in our machine shop often. The TL10 with vertical lift most likely cannot do this even though it’s ,1700 more weight. However, when facing downhill with cutter in the front the TL10 will be more fit. We are limited on steep grades going down but not uphill. You will have to decide what is more important to you. Both are great machines but I am not a fan of vertical lift machines, it’s a lot of stress on the joints but they will work. If you can buy a TL10 with radial lift that’s the way to go. But you will be reduced in accessory hydraulic flow rate by a smidge.
I hope this helps brother
@@easttexasengineering3489 Thanks for the insite. I need to be able to go up and down hills here in Montana so wonder if the tl10 may be better. A neighbor recently went to a bigger macine to run his heavy rotary grinder both for spinning it and because he couldn't stop going down hills..too front heavy. I want somthing that runs the 48 inch disk at full capacity...I assume you mean the radial will lift more at lower heights is my understanding?
@@easttexasengineering3489 i have rut mfgs terminator xp which is 7500$ not 3500 and it barely cuts 10 inch trees. it cannot mulch a 10 inch tree up at all unless its a super soft wood tree. cedar and oak and even mesquite it cuts very poorly. leaves giant chunks everywhere. it works good on 4" and under trees. yes it can cut a 10 inch tree down but it does a very poor job. thats why ive been looking into ruts disc mulcher. hopeing it will work better on big trees than a brush cutter
Retired environmental engineer here here who started a company called Stumpin Off Services Land Grooming. Buying the same head we started grinding stumps. Going for this head and bobcat Brushcat for clean up. So whats opinion of the mulcher debris. Does it need refined for drum mulcher product?
Was going to follow up with a tractor flail mower or a Brushcat was my first thought
@@jeffmawhinney1709 most stump grinders put out a dust or more sand like shavings, this will be more like larger pine bark mulch. To your other post on flail mowers.
I have a flail mower and to this day I don’t think they get the credit they deserve. There are MANY jobs I look at and simply just take my track and 3 point flail mower and finish way before a track loader or mulcher could dream or. And the ticker is my tractor is only 40 hp so I can run two days on one tank of diesel. My flail mower is rated for 2” but I have pushed over 3-4” pins with the front end loader and ran over them with the flails. I would go with a flail all the way for a groomed clean up.