Lightning vs Electric Car - would you survive
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This kinda just shows that if youre gonna get hit by lightning, youre gonna get hit by lightning. Your best bet is to just not go outside in lightning at all.
Seems like the safest lightning is the friends we made along the way.
And this is why i haven't gone outside in 13 years. Really makes it easy now that covid introduced drones to ship my food and other deliveries back and forth. Ain't gonna find me out and about until we find out how to eliminate lightning once and for all, even space lightning!
Not being struck by lightning is theoretically easy. Head down. Stay low. Pucker your butt lol
You’re not technically safe even in your house. lightning can definitely strike Through a house.
Just hope you’re not unlucky
I'm just not going to go outside at all.
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“Instead the gel just melted a little” as if the idea of your flesh melting (even just a little) isn’t horrifying at all
We get it you never let your intrusive thoughts win and intentionally burned yourself…
@@nitronick1220Bro’s bragging about being mentally unstable 💀
@@nitronick1220get help queen
@@nitronick1220no, I let the intrusive thoughts win and ACCIDENTALLY burned myself! …multiple times…
You would at least expect it to show some damn burn marks though
DANG IT! I should have been there with you! LOOKS HELLA FUN!
Next time!
Your eyebrows would have melted a little.
I know it's really ironic to say this, but this video has the EXACT chaotic, dangerous, educative energy of a Mythbusters episode
reminds me of when "allen" "worked" for the "mythbusters"
Allen Pan, the Mythbusters ™️ reject, has himself become the true myth buster
Was the first time I saw this facility too.
Where's the irony?
@@scottg3192 failed mythbuster allen pan
The crouching dummy having his nuts be the connection to ground was all I needed to know. Will never crouch in a storm
Mr Pan's Crouching Dummy is far from a good representation of a human being... also not crouched the proper way... also not meant to prevent the strike, he didn't do his research well enough on this one at least.. which makes me doubt all the others.. :/
Crouching could save your life.... it's about making sure the lighting strike does not go through your heart.
@@Aftekyes exactly
It seems like you should put your hands and feet on the ground next to each other so you were grounded and the lightning doesn’t cross your body. Sure you’ll get melted flesh and a scar.
why? you don't want overcharged nuts?
@@Aftekeh I mean it's hard to say since apparently no one knows what to do if you're about to get struck by lightning
Rather have toasted nuts than a cooked heart
As a demonstrator at the Boston Museum of Science said: Air is a much more effective insulator than rubber, and it travels through miles of it to get to the ground. Rubber shoes aren't going to do anything
There's also the fact that lightning usually travels with rain so likely everything including you is especially conductive.
@@PhrozenFox would rain still be conductive though it was distilled by the water cycle?
Air is definitely not a better insulator than rubber. The insulation would be from the material withstanding a larger voltage before breaking down. This is the Dielectric Strength and is measured in volts per meter. The Dielectric strength of air is around 3 MV/m while rubber is around 15-25 MV/m. Maybe the person was thinking of thermal insulation?
@@forrestgentry7599 Rainwater is most certainly not distilled. It carries the particulates that were in the air, and most infamously can be acidic due to pollution.
@@pseudonymous1382 That makes sense. I had a suspicion it would be so. I wonder if there would be any sort of correlation then between pollution and lightning strike frequency.
If anybody is wondering, real lightning will most definitely break your car, at least sometimes. My neighbor had lightning hit his tree and arc to his car and it completely fried everything. Not sure if this was the straight volts or something else, but it will most definitely make your car inoperable in certain conditions.
i mean, from what allen said, lightning *is* at least a hundred times more powerful than the tesla coil.
"most definitely" "sometimes", pick one :P
its better than YOU becoming inoperable
There's enough volts that it'll melt copper wires, I've worked on boats that have been struck by lightning and all the wires are usually melted
@@raynlaze1339yes sometimes it’s most definitely
Why wasn't THIS at OpenSauce? This would've been a cool interactive exhibit!!! STRIKE ME ALLEN ZEUS I'VE BEEN A BAD WOOD CUTOUT
one idiot gets too close and suddenly their heart stops
"Come drive this car through a tesla coil"
Liability reasons
this was basically the tesla music thing
you've been a reeeeeal bad wooden cutout boy, you need a serious lesson to make you act right. *pulls out a million volt tesla coil*
Boss: "What? Are you afraid of a little rain?"
Nope. But the high voltage rope from the sky? Maybe a lil.
We're living so far in the future an electric car can be "busted-ass." I suddenly feel quite old
Electric cars existed before gasoline cars did. The first electric car was made well over 100 years ago. They were more popular than gasoline cars for a good while, until petroleum infrastructure caught up.
@@antonliakhovitch8306beat me to it, and with more detail. I yield.
Just buy a Cybertruck
6:02 the reason you want to crouch low is because if you get struck the lightning takes a far more desirable path through your body. It’s more likely to hit your legs or back if your crouched
You crouch if your hair raises (it means your about to get struck by lightning
Yeah I was looking for if someone had already said this. It's going to be bad news but if you can give it a path through you that doesn't involve your heart you've got a better chance of survival.
And on your toes with heels touching is important if lightning struck close to you and is travelling through the ground.
So the answer is to just assume you are going to get hit instead or getting to safety? Still dumb as shit to crouch.
Yeah, I wanted to see a test that was more thorough and progressed through a couple developments of theory.
Feet together is even more important because it mitigates step voltages, which can extend from the strike a lot further than local arcs (step voltage being a significant difference in the voltage on the ground closer to the strike than further away, if your feet are at different distances that voltage difference across the gap winds up applied to you)
In a seminar, a lightning physicist (yes they exist) said we know less about lightning than we do about supernovas. I think this video demonstrates why, it’s highly unpredictable and any model we try to fit to its behavior, ends up being unreliable at best.
Yeah lightning and the path it's going to take is extremely hard to model mathematically.
We know exactly how lightning works. We know what it is, how it happens and why it happens. As a phenomenon we have it locked down.
What don't we know about lightning ?
6:47 I lost it at "is lightning stupid" 😂
It burns! Ze goggles! Zey do nothing!
This is one of the most entertaining and educational science videos I’ve ever seen. I already downloaded it just in case CZcams has a problem with it.
you downloaded it? you monster!!!
@@StarlordStavanger He had to take down that one video about the gun glove before
@@HoneyMikethis is unironically the reason why I try to watch his videos as fast as possible in case this happens again
Busting makes me feel good 💀 that’s crazy
real
Allen aint afraid of no bed
Ghostbusters.
NO HE DESTROYED MUMS NUG!!!!!!
NOT THE NUG
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I think a lot of the lighting "survival tips" come from people having miss-understanding how electricity works. It statistically takes the shortest or easiest path, but actually takes all paths just because it can. It doesn't know ahead of time the environment, it has to travel through it first, because it can't go faster than the speed of light.
The reason for that crouching is not to be protected against direct hits. Its so, if there is a strike near you and the electrons are dissipating into the ground, you have a minimal "footprint". You are basically just a part of a voltage divider. With spread legs a lot more voltage (thus current) would flow through ya body than if you were just crouching.
The only misunderstanding here is that a Tesla coil and a static charge behave the same way. In the experiment, the potential is fully on the side of the Tesla coil.
In a real lightning, charges are on both sides and equalize through a breakout point, which could be a person standing upright.
You could replicate this in the experiment by gluing a nail to the sphere of the Tesla coil. While a nail on the ground won't affect the lightning much, a nail on the sphere will make the electricity come primarily from that point.
@@KekTekDe Putting your feet together without crouching would achieve the same thing. So it can't be the full story.
@@dasjulian3 "In a real lightning, charges are on both sides and equalize through a breakout point, which could be a person standing upright." Are you implying that Tesla coils magically generate charges without opposites?
The arcs from primarily on sharp objects because of the geometry of the electric field. I don't think you have any idea what you are talking about.
@@dasjulian3in a real lighting, the charges you make by standing up would be so insignificant to the charges the cloud hold.
That drawing KILLED me… xD
You don't crouch down, you put your legs/feet together and shuffle away to safety.
The point is to not give an opportunity to have a potential difference between your legs when lightning hits the ground. As it may be a long shot to get hit directly it's almost certain that lightning will hit the ground and some of it will create a potential difference on the ground like a downed power line. So you treat it like a downed powerline.
Also caves and cliff side overhangs are not safe either.
"if you;re a small business owner, you know that nothing;s worse than being a small business owner" is the most small-business-owner vibe ever
seriously though, this is genuinely helpful. not as helpful as prosthetic limbs, but i;m more comfortable now.
I had a tour recently in a high voltage lab. The high voltage specialists said the following:
- 80% of the lightnings happen in clouds, only 20% hit the ground
From the 20% that hit the ground:
- 80% of these are negatively charged, and negatively charged lightnings are more attracted to tall objects than flat surfaces (like the ground)
- the remaining 20% are positively charged, and positively charged lightnings are more likely to struck in flat, short surfaces (like the ground, or a person standing next to a tree).
They advised the following:
- a car is the safest, but the radio antenna could potentially conduct the high voltage into the car electric system, so stay away from the radio and other electronics
- even a cabrio can be safe (mesh-like structures are used as lightning protection on buildings, and the meshes are often 5-10m wide) - but you need the roof on of course
- if you stand in a field with no trees, maybe laying down is better
- if you have a tree nearby, stay 5-10m next to it (closer could result the lightning to travel through the tree, and also you, farther could result that you are the highest object)
- you have about 4/5 odd that a lighning is going to hit a tall object (so it is 1/5 that it will not)
- chance of surviving a strike is 40%, and it can be even 60% if you can get medical help immediately, the remaining 40% is unfortunately fatal (most likely your brain melts lol).
Quick sidenote: high voltage is not always dangerous, there are Tesla coils out there that you can even touch. But lighnings are high voltage and high current, which is dangerous!
Also, is air conductive? Yes, and no: a lot of ions are in the air, which can create a so called avalanche reaction that results in ionising the air and making it conductive.
Nice video!
My 3D printer finishes AND another Allen Pan video at the same time? Sweet!
Another successful Mythbusters episode!
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What does that mean
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I like how I watched this video, went 'what would I do different after watching this video', and the answer was 'nothing'. If I'm outside during a lightning storm, I die.
laughing maniacally while witnessing a robot baby get destroyed by lightening is the most Allen Pan thing that can happen.
Allen, don't drive into lightning--your sponsors need you!
I'm pretty sure the 'avoid using the phone thing' is actually about landlines phone, as it's (supposedly) possible for the electrical charge to hit the landline cable and ultimately zap you in the head.
Good thing I don't even have one of those
I’ve worked in fire towers for a few years. They give us a wooden stool with glass feet to stand on during a lightning event. The problem is, they built those aluminum towers for the average 1956 height of a man, and our heads touch the metal roof when standing on the stool. They also say to close the windows. One time I had lightning within a quarter mile. I just climbed down the tower, and hung out in my vehicle with a handheld radio to stay in contact with dispatch.
Bro you're the friggin Galileo to the Aristotle of conventional lightning common knowledge.
EV tech here. No guarantee a car will be fine after being struck by lightning. The electronics that share the ground plane is a potential exit path for the lightning via the harness or other electronics, and that is known to kill modules.
True, there's no guarantee, but car manufacturers do run their vehicles through tests like this to make them at least somewhat resistant to damage, and most importantly even when that damage does occur it's much better for the car to take the hit than the occupant
This mf gonna upload at 9pm on a Wednesday. Truly optimizing the algorithm.
this video hasn't even peaked 100k views, channel might as well be dead now
There's been a ton of heat lightning and storms around here lately, I was standing outside one night and felt my hair stand on end, it clearly was and ever since I've been terrified of getting struck, thanks for this video, very cool
same bro.
The crouching is for when lightning hits the ground near you; it makes you keep the feet together so the current can travel through the ground instead of up and through your body (i.e. up one leg and down the other). Actually _running_ from lightning would probably be, ya know... really bad, given the distance between your feet, the voltage/current potential, etc. But yeah, might want to double check that one.
>"busted ass car" >same year and model as my car
In fairness, I assume your car can go further than 30 miles without completely dying (the first gen Leaf had some design flaws that mean it's not terribly worthwhile repairing it for a busted battery)
Found this while listening to the song “Dupe - Mbappe” 😅😅
I’m glad I was able to catch one of his videos the day it released
Honestly, a very informative video, which is unusual for an Allen Pan video!
Babe wake up, new Allen Pan video
Water butt shower drink is valid
Great video Allen! Had me chuckling alongside being informative!
This was like an actual sciency video, more explaining and logics than the other ones. Great job!
There are safety boots that are made to be electrically insulating. They are required in some industrial workplaces, like factories with high power machines. I wonder if they would protect from lightning strikes
They are rated for electrical safety hazards, not Zeus and God playing a game of darts.
no, EH rated boots would not protect you
What about the 6" high platform boots, get extra rubber between yourself and ground
Not against a direct strike but they'll probably help somewhat against ground currents caused by the strike.
@@JackieBright whats stopping the lighting from just, going out the side of the boot
2013 Nissan Leaf is underrrated
Awesome video. I like this educational entertainment angle you had here. Make some more!
that last 3 minutes was so extreme
I’m glad to see a new upload
It's actually something that I've thought about time to time! That tesla coil is super cool as well! Awesome video as always!
Amazing video can't wait to see your next one!
Allen! To me, you are the last remaining legit MythBusters member! Basically Grant Imahara's little cousin. Never stop
Unironically one of the most helpful CZcams videos I've ever seen (for surviving a lightning storm).
I love the premise of this video. Please keep doing videos like these. It reminds me of mythbusters.
Something to note, electricity will take the shortest and most conductive route to the ground, humans are generally more conductive than trees or wood, so wood dummies holding metal stuff won't make any difference, because the air or wood itself would be the path of least resistance. There's also a huge difference if its Positively or Negatively charged, Aswell as Positive/Negative GC lightning. One more thing to help, wearing nonconductive shoes such as rubber boots would technically decrease your chances of being hit by lightning, although the shear current and voltage typically negates that non-conductivity.
*What about a tent?*
Like if you are camping in the rain?
Good question. If your camping there would be no buildings around for miles
We need an answer.
This was an electrically charged video
Im not even past the ads yet
Actually a lot of super informative info on lightning!
best sponsor intro i've seen yet
i love how modern science experiments have to be done by youtubers, what a fun life we live
Also remember that the survival rate of lightning strikes is 90%
That's in large part because of injuries sustained from secondary arcing being counted as lightning strikes. A direct hit by one of those bolts would vaporise a significant chunk of the person it hit, it would be practically guaranteed to be lethal.
@@bosstowndynamics5488 No it wouldn't. There are survivors of direct hits where the lightning travelled through a large portion of their body. But yes, a direct hit is practically guaranteed to be lethal.
@@christiannorf1680 Lightning strikes are powerful enough to melt sand into glass, but even being near a lightning strike is enough to get hit by substantial secondary arcing which can easily travel through a human and cause those entry and exit wounds while being more survivable. I was always taught that a true direct strike would be absolutely lethal (if nothing else the power would be enough to boil you from the inside), a quick search to double check turns up no meaningful results to actually distinguish between these effects other than studies that have exactly the same limitations as this demonstration, which are using artificial electrical sources that don't even come close to the power throughout of true lightning, and general articles that seem to assume that the strike is direct just because the person wasn't inside and being indirectly shocked by touching a charged object or similar.
This was a great video, very informative and surprising
There is merit to at least keep your feet close together if you are in the vicinity to a potential lightning strike position, i.e. a shelter or a roof with a lightning rod, which is connected to ground via wire. Around the entrypoint of the lightning into the ground it will create an electric field inside it, which will have different potentials depending on the distance to the strike entry. If you now stand on two different potentials with your feet, there will be a voltage and subsequently a current flowing through your body from one potential/foot to the other. The killer in this situation is current going through your heart. So since your body has a set impedance you have to reduce the voltage to also reduce the current (I=U/R). You can achieve that by putting your feet closer together which means reducing the potential difference and subsequently lowering the voltage over your body. Also minimizing the area of contact with the ground can help (increasing resistance), laying down would actually be a bad idea because the bigger contact area with the ground would reduce the overall resistance and increasy the current.
The biggest danger is a direct hit by lightning - but even if you can eliminate that it's still dangerous to be near the entrypoint since there is still danger from inderect lightning strikes through the electric field in the ground. If you want to find out more on that topic you can look up "step voltage". In Germany we started to build "potential control" to "short out" the equipotential lines in the ground to minimize danger from step voltage due to indirect lightning strike. It's especially useful in weather shelters, canopied and swimming pools.
Not sure if midnight is the best time to drop a video, but is a great time for me. (at least it's midnight for me here in Brazil)
Nobody sleeps anymore
I thought he was in California. So it'd be like 8 pm.
Guys, it's been 10 minutes, NOBODY should've finished it by now.
2x speed bisnatch
The Hyneman walrus finished in less than 10 minutes. MythBusting makes him feel good.
umbrella guy was getting a ark on the top of his head almost the whole time
I was not prepared for that drawing of the lady with the faucet
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Yes but why are you taking the time to comment about the ratio of views to time when you could just be watching the video?
@@BENBOI_1 it's called a joke
7 likes in 5 minutes? Fell off
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Love the plushie and shirt. Thanks Allen Pan Busted Merch!
my god I love this channel.
As a (previous) land surveyor who would hold a 4.65m rod, thank you for answering my intrusive thoughts.
DID HE JUST MAKE A DODGEBALL REFERENCE??
I'm sure others have already said this, but, wow, Allen, this is as Myhtbustier a video as any I've seen. And actually, very helpful information is clearly shown.
"I shot jello with lightning, because it's similar to human flesh" except it doesn't contract or expand and it doesn't burn the same. The fact that it melted though makes me feel like that doesn't really matter that much
lets go allen
Awesome video! I'd love to know if a partially enclosed structure like a bus stop (roof, some walls but not all the way around) would be similar to the tree, or if it could protect you.
This is such a good video. Perfect amount of insane, perfect amount of exposition for babies, 10/10 you're good at youtube. please do more youtubes. I like it when you post.
wow I learned something from this video. Thanks
This woulda been such a good mythbusters video
Your videos are better than mythbusters because they don't have a silly gimmick.
Very interesting!
Would be nice to see a more in depth analysis of that ...
the upward streakers looks like something straight out of fiction
3:00 that dodgeball reference goes crazy lmao
i’m in total agreement. My first science fair expieriment was *Which Pair of Shoes to Wear if You’re Struck By Lighting*. I actually put my hand on a tesla coil wearing different types of shoes and bare-foot. Conclusion- If you’re gonna be struck, take off your shoes.
8:22 Is nobody talking about the Jamie Walrus Plush and how adorable that looks. Not sure if it is available for merch or anything, but I would love to buy that in a heartbeat.
I had understood that, certainly, the best place to be in an electrical storm is your car... it's like a Faraday cage. What I also understand is that you should call emergencies when your car is hit by lightning... WITHOUT LEAVING IT... if it is not grounded, it can act as a capacitor... and release all the charge through of your foot when you get out of the car. The same thing happens if you see another vehicle that has been struck by lightning... don't run out to help them. Only call emergencies, firefighters are better qualified to be the heroes.
I woke up for this!
Current always takes ALL paths.
This is actually really helpful. 😃
Yes
That drawing will be in my nightmares
BTW: The reason why you should duck and keep your feet together is the step voltage. You can also die when a flash impacted near you into the ground.
Allen pan is awesome
Damn I was about to go out during a thunderstorm now that yt has recomended this to me Im staying at home😊
Great video, great entertainment. Top Gear did the car lightning thing with real parameters. Question. What would happen if you jumped in the exact time you get hit by lightning?
Another awesome vid. I'd have shit myself even knowing I was safe in the car, that's spooky volts.
New Allen video no way
I wonder if movement or running on the golf course would help
I'm working out and I went to change the song and you posted!
Working out to this is going to be top tier thank you Panpan!