I Added A 4 Point Line To The NBA And This Is What Happened

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  • @kog4634
    @kog4634 Před 8 měsíci +14274

    Garland having the same theoretical 4 point percentage as his 3 point percentage is actually insane

    • @mattmmixes
      @mattmmixes Před 8 měsíci +315

      I think he’ll do good in the playoffs in the future just needed to get some experience before he could

    • @motianton
      @motianton Před 8 měsíci +89

      even more impressive is keeping up his acc. w his volume

    • @vannq7785
      @vannq7785 Před 8 měsíci +14

      Who’s garland?

    • @beatbox_battle1253
      @beatbox_battle1253 Před 8 měsíci

      @@vannq7785darius garland, plays for the cleveland cavaliers, all star point guard, look em up if you want too

    • @myweirdsecondchannelwithap9070
      @myweirdsecondchannelwithap9070 Před 8 měsíci

      @@vannq7785the fuck ? do you even watch basketball?

  • @DiceRolls
    @DiceRolls Před 8 měsíci +4334

    If they ever introduce the 4 pointer, they should incorporate it during the new mid season tourney for a while. Would actually make the tourney pretty unique

    • @gabefife951
      @gabefife951 Před 8 měsíci +163

      They should do that

    • @hondacivicman4903
      @hondacivicman4903 Před 8 měsíci +183

      like a test run or just solely in the new tourney?

    • @d-p_
      @d-p_ Před 8 měsíci +158

      I like that. Beta tests.

    • @terterman8585
      @terterman8585 Před 8 měsíci +48

      I really hope this rule is never implemented in any way

    • @peacemaker4829
      @peacemaker4829 Před 8 měsíci +84

      I think they should just implement it into the all-star game like the wnba

  • @monopoman
    @monopoman Před 8 měsíci +2241

    One point he didn't mention is the stats he are using is where teams are not strategizing for a 4 point shot. Meaning that while Trae, Lillard and Curry take a lot of them no coach in the huddle talks about defending it or planning to shoot it on this possession. So the implementation means a lot more than just changing the scores of previous games in a hypothetical.

    • @damienwest2519
      @damienwest2519 Před 8 měsíci +180

      Once 4 pt shot is real, players like Lillard and curry would actually attempt it. Teams would also adjust to defend it. I'm pretty sure any 3 pt hero will also be the best 4pt shooters too

    • @xJaAviiEeR
      @xJaAviiEeR Před 8 měsíci +62

      and most of the 27-29ft shots would've been stepped back just like how rarely players attempt right before the 3-pt line

    • @JMScibra
      @JMScibra Před 7 měsíci +69

      I noticed this in a lot of the footage; a lot of defense were holding the 3-point line, meaning someone at the theoretical 4-point line was virtually uncontested making his shot.

    • @trytoo5167
      @trytoo5167 Před 7 měsíci +2

      My same point.

    • @luigirox8
      @luigirox8 Před 6 měsíci +37

      Imagine them having to guard a 4 point shot, the shooter catches & pump fakes a 4 and steps into a 3 pointer🤯🤯🤯 craziness. The game wouldnt be the same

  • @ivazr4527
    @ivazr4527 Před 3 měsíci +332

    As someone who never watch the NBA, This video delivery is insanely incredible for me. Very understandable and interesting to me so much.

    • @tenochmorales9009
      @tenochmorales9009 Před 3 měsíci +6

      Ikr. I am a PhD in math and I was amazed by the statistics of it, I felt like I want to do a deeper analysis of why the long shot are better

    • @littlegirlshowSynch
      @littlegirlshowSynch Před 3 měsíci +2

      @@tenochmorales9009 The 3 pointers or theoretical 4s? Because either way they're both better because they're worth more points and the meta has changed so players are taking them more often (so they're getting better at them), it's pretty self explanatory.

    • @TheBulletBlitz
      @TheBulletBlitz Před 2 měsíci

      It was never like that until the mid 2010s. Basketball scores up until the were more like 90-100 ppg maybe. Now teams score at least 120 ppg on average. Steph Curry changed the NBA

    • @James-xm3ex
      @James-xm3ex Před měsícem +1

      @TheBulletBlitz more than just the NBA, he’s changed basketball. If we can honestly credit him with the shift.
      There’s a guy on Oakland in March Madness who’s shot hundreds of field goals this season, and I’m pretty sure less than 10 of them were 2 pointers

    • @TheBulletBlitz
      @TheBulletBlitz Před měsícem

      @@James-xm3ex I been tellin everyone, no one wanna be like Mike anymore

  • @MartinLutherBling
    @MartinLutherBling Před 8 měsíci +1263

    It would be interesting to see how this would actually play out. Trae's efficiency looks fantastic from theoretical 4-pointers, but most of those 30 footers are wide open right now. It wouldn't take defenses long to realize they need to contest those shots more if they're worth 4 points. That being said, shooters would start to practice 30 footers more if they're worth 4 points, and I'd expect we'd start to see accuracy improve.

    • @RonquixoteDIII
      @RonquixoteDIII Před 8 měsíci +64

      I feel the only major difference it would make is end of game situations where a team down 4 has possession and little time left on the clock to get a quick shot and foul and then another try

    • @izzy031096
      @izzy031096 Před 8 měsíci +4

      Similar to Jerry West

    • @davidknowles605
      @davidknowles605 Před 8 měsíci +22

      The change on the games fabric will worsen even more with a 4pt line.
      It will be shot jacking like no other era. The NBA will be very boring

    • @x1fearless-699
      @x1fearless-699 Před 8 měsíci +9

      @@davidknowles605not necessarily. The addition of a 4 point line would have more or less the same effect of the 3 point line. A vast increase in spacing and a jump in total scoring and offense once teams learn to adjust

    • @alantaraiza4045
      @alantaraiza4045 Před 8 měsíci +13

      @@x1fearless-699exactly his point I think..too much scoring isn't always fun if there is no defense that's the thing..with more spacing defenses would be weakened

  • @MrBoiiiiiii
    @MrBoiiiiiii Před 8 měsíci +1516

    respect to Jimmy for keeping us entertained during the off season

    • @user-zd9vy4nw1e
      @user-zd9vy4nw1e Před 8 měsíci +3

      About 4ps shots, it's pretty much like the 3ps shots. No one cared to shoot them before the line was set, as they had nothing to gain. Also the players were not that accurate in the beginning. Fast forward a few years and you have a lot of great 3-ps shooters, even centers like Hakeem, Dirk, etc. 4-points stats from a era without the point bonus doesn't really matter. It's like counting how many people are holding an umbrella on a sunny day. Yes, the face of the game will change and yes it will take us time to adapt to the new game reality, but in the end it will happen and we will like it as well as three-point shots because they will be impressive, they will allow teams to claim victories in the end with more chances (more "8 point games" for us, even 9), new points leaders will come up, player and team point records will follow and more to come, all for the better. I' m in !

    • @opium_baby
      @opium_baby Před 8 měsíci +2

      🤓

    • @rlptp
      @rlptp Před 8 měsíci

      Nice comment 😂

    • @abel6298
      @abel6298 Před 8 měsíci +1

      Read your bible! (KJV, preferably) ❤️😊🎉

  • @punkworm
    @punkworm Před 3 měsíci +40

    Great explanation of the concept with analytics. Uncontested layups of the bigs would be even more uncontested since spacing would be increased once the defenders adjust to defending 4 pointers. Therefore, I beleive point per shot from uncontested layups would also increase. Other than that, mad respect to Trae.

    • @longsleeve3280
      @longsleeve3280 Před měsícem

      nah. I don't think people are going to double u at the 4 pt line

  • @peachferrari
    @peachferrari Před 8 měsíci +96

    Interesting data for sure. As you said it's unknown what the entire impact would be on the game. It would certainly be interesting to see how many more attempts there would be from out there if there were a line and a potential reward for chucking up shots from there. Also, I'd be interested in the shot percentage if there actually were a line there (giving the players a reference point) rather than just empty court space. Having the line there I would think would increase the success rate just by giving the player a muscle memory advantage by knowing exactly how far away the rim is.

  • @michaelmcphee2006
    @michaelmcphee2006 Před 8 měsíci +783

    If the four point line was there, people would cover someone like Trey a lot more intensely at the at distance. Conversely players would start putting a lot more effort into those shots, so it's hard to get an real estimate on the PPS of a four point shot. However it would still probably cause an offensive explosion because it would generate so much space if defences had to guard so aggressively at 30ft.

    • @themasterseye
      @themasterseye Před 8 měsíci +27

      Not really. Players know Trae likes to shoot deep, yet they sag off anyway because they believe the percentage is worth it. That percentage wouldnt change with a physical line there. His 30 ft shots are still worth 3. Players sag off of the 3 point line against shooters sometimes too. Players dont always have the attention/discipline/energy to defend a player in his chest at any distance, while still being helpful to the team.

    • @michaelmcphee2006
      @michaelmcphee2006 Před 8 měsíci +74

      @@themasterseye Trey rarely takes those shots when he's not open. It may be worth it to sag off him now, but not if there was an extra point involved. And defence almost never intentionally leave someone who can actually shoot open. That's like the core of modern defence.

    • @narheanrg1949
      @narheanrg1949 Před 8 měsíci +7

      this was my exact concern too. imagine having to guard someone that far out. one crossover or blow by and all of a sudden a guy like trae young is a the 3 point line open making it a 5v4. thats the only thing that concerns me about this line tbh

    • @s_ame1135
      @s_ame1135 Před 8 měsíci +6

      ​@@narheanrg1949 Yup. Defenders are already having a hard time defending the paint up to the 3pt line, a 4pt line would only make it exponentially harder.

    • @boondockbwoy14
      @boondockbwoy14 Před 8 měsíci +4

      True given the fact that the defense would expand to cover the 4-point line, but knowing Trae I see him leveling up his shot to take it even deeper behind the 4-point line and continue draining long bombs like nothing 🥶

  • @GIBBO4182
    @GIBBO4182 Před 8 měsíci +1697

    As someone who doesn’t really watch too much basketball, it’s weird how I never miss your videos!

    • @gsoma4022
      @gsoma4022 Před 8 měsíci +69

      Ahh thank God I'm not the only one.. I honestly haven't watched a game since Lebron on the cavs. But damn this man videos are the highest of quality

    • @KingstonDope
      @KingstonDope Před 8 měsíci +16

      Doing tricks on it

    • @SplashYT.
      @SplashYT. Před 8 měsíci +1

      ​@@KingstonDopecan't motivate the man????

    • @justnahayo8490
      @justnahayo8490 Před 8 měsíci

      @@KingstonDopeanime pfp, comment irrelevant❌

    • @todayisyesterday3214
      @todayisyesterday3214 Před 8 měsíci +4

      the jon bois effect

  • @jasonhorn901
    @jasonhorn901 Před 8 měsíci +10

    Hey buddy, I just want to say: Great job. Your videos are really well organized, you voice is clearly articulated, and the videos that I've watched have explored interesting ideas in a logical way.
    It would have been really easy for a conversation on a 4-point shot to turn into an absurd and polarizing position, but your thorough research and tempered/objective view makes for a really interesting conversation.
    Keep up the GREAT fucking work you are doing, and thank you for putting the time into this (which I can imagine was extensive) to promote and foster interesting discourses on a sport I love.
    Kudos!

  • @ghoum56
    @ghoum56 Před 8 měsíci +9

    This is a fascinating and thorough look at the 4pt line, excellent work! Coming from someone who isn't into basketball, your videos are awesome. I think the only thing I would want to see explored more is the additional incentive players would have in taking that 4 pt shot. Right now, there doesn't seem to be much of an incentive for players to take that extra risk but I think if players knew there is an extra point at stake, the data would definitely skew differently. Additionally, I'd like to know what would happen if the NBA moved the 3-pt line back, it seems like as time goes on 3 pointers have become easier to hit, or at least attempted more. In any case awesome vid!

  • @thomasfobi7011
    @thomasfobi7011 Před 8 měsíci +558

    Jokic being that good in the paint that he’s giving you as much pps as three point takers just makes me appreciate him even more

    • @cloudyej7535
      @cloudyej7535 Před 8 měsíci +53

      His post up is one of the most efficient shots ever

    • @justinholland6132
      @justinholland6132 Před 8 měsíci +8

      Your average dunk/lay up is just as efficient lmao. Whats impressive is that his post up is on eof the more efficient plays in ball

    • @JT-km6th
      @JT-km6th Před 8 měsíci

      You sound sus af, jealous of his wife?

    • @jac6548
      @jac6548 Před 8 měsíci +1

      how many pps does he give you

    • @launchbase4944
      @launchbase4944 Před 8 měsíci

      I don't get your point here because that's just as if not more efficient than the 3. you're just dickriding

  • @ShroomDoggyDogg
    @ShroomDoggyDogg Před 8 měsíci +1767

    Trae’s 4 point shot is huge for his game. Because of his size he has to rely on quickness and playmaking so by making those 4 point shots he gives himself a bigger court to work with. Highly underrated imo

    • @napheng7245
      @napheng7245 Před 8 měsíci +49

      If it existed yeah it would be, right now without it though its just emphasizes his bad shot selection.

    • @EmperorandDeath
      @EmperorandDeath Před 8 měsíci +17

      Trae is massively overrated actually. He’s seriously inefficient

    • @Yute01
      @Yute01 Před 8 měsíci +9

      @TheAdvaitist Man the hate just doesn't stop...was Ai efficient? Nah, doesn't mean that he isn't a great player...he wasn't even an all star there's no way he's overrated at this point.

    • @marshallsharpcoleman3116
      @marshallsharpcoleman3116 Před 8 měsíci +20

      0.99 points per shot is not too shabby for a “bad shot”

    • @RedShirtMenace808
      @RedShirtMenace808 Před 8 měsíci

      Trae is overrated, good player tho

  • @lilmatty33059
    @lilmatty33059 Před 8 měsíci +11

    7:09 DeAngelo Russell is such a beast of a player that he's tying theoretical records in the future!

  • @ruairikennedy2777
    @ruairikennedy2777 Před 8 měsíci +6

    Your thinking, perspective, analysis and production never cease to amaze, Jxmy. Thanks

  • @theilleagle8380
    @theilleagle8380 Před 8 měsíci +780

    I think this might be my favorite Jimmy video ever. Wasn’t too big of a fan of Trae but he’s truly generational. If the NBA ever does implement a 4 point line in the future, we’d look at Trae as someone who was truly before his time and stunted because of it

  • @invicto_plays1602
    @invicto_plays1602 Před 8 měsíci +1698

    Can we appreciate Jokic for having such an incredible PPS while mostly shooting from the paint

    • @darshin95
      @darshin95 Před 8 měsíci +9

      Jordan vibes

    • @ruiyikeith
      @ruiyikeith Před 8 měsíci +55

      Not "while", "because".

    • @andersensplob9082
      @andersensplob9082 Před 8 měsíci +1

      ​@@ruiyikeithYeah lol

    • @DotM.
      @DotM. Před 8 měsíci +17

      ⁠@@ruiyikeithnot “because”, “whilst”

    • @TheChiTownBoy00
      @TheChiTownBoy00 Před 8 měsíci +20

      @ruiyikeith
      While is correct.
      I don’t think you understand Jimmy’s graph at all. If you did, you’d understand how Jokic is MILES above literally every player in NBA history when that close to the basket.
      Not even Shaq is as efficient as Jokic in the paint.

  • @BenoitHenriot
    @BenoitHenriot Před 4 měsíci +2

    Great vid, great research, great content ! Playing basketball for 40 years, I can only agree with the 4-point line - for professional only. Thanks

  • @alenwesker9552
    @alenwesker9552 Před 8 měsíci +20

    I suspect that it would make the game defense space be enlarged so much that according to the "Moneyball" theory, people should shoot at the 4-point line or attack the rim directly. The math behind it may not calculate the impact on the degree of awesomeness. But it may be worth a try to implement that in some lower leagues. Amazing video.

  • @devanshj7169
    @devanshj7169 Před 8 měsíci +324

    I think one of the more shocking stats was Jokic casually having a hugely more valuable shot from floater land than anything within 3-pt range. Just goes to show how ridiculous his touch is. At the same time, Trae certainly is an overhated player; although his shot selection can be extremely annoying at times (especially for hawks fans) , he truly is a sniper from long range.

    • @JolteOnWisconsin
      @JolteOnWisconsin Před 8 měsíci +6

      He’s a sniper for sure, but not a winner and he’s a hugely negative defender

    • @michaellzy
      @michaellzy Před 8 měsíci +5

      ​@@JolteOnWisconsinI mean dude just won a championship averaging a 30 pt triple double while shooting 50,40,80

    • @Sherlochas
      @Sherlochas Před 8 měsíci +15

      @@michaellzyhes talking about trae young not jokic i think

    • @devanshj7169
      @devanshj7169 Před 8 měsíci +2

      @@JolteOnWisconsin I agree, probably the worst defender in the league and the lack of effort on the defensive end is just pathetic. He is also a ball-dominant guard which really hurts the team and how to build around him. If he could add off-ball movement to his game, it would make his offensive package as well as team dynamic so much better.

    • @goten3965
      @goten3965 Před 8 měsíci +6

      @@JolteOnWisconsinbro trey literally brought the hawks into the playoffs and made a deep playoff run while being the hawks star player and the hawks had a big playoff drought before trey arrived he helps a lot too win steph curry is a liability on defense but that doesn’t mean he’s not a winner

  • @rizzyrosney
    @rizzyrosney Před 8 měsíci +483

    I really give you props Jimmy. It’s been years and you’re dedicated to the sport and your fans. Thank you for taking your time for each and every video.

    • @fortynights1513
      @fortynights1513 Před 8 měsíci +5

      In particular, Jimmy’s video’s just about always have great presentation to them.
      As for a four point shot, it’d be interesting if it was a legit thing in the NBA, but I don’t think it’d occur to them.

  • @collinmadden4874
    @collinmadden4874 Před 7 měsíci +6

    7:20 Jxmy telling the future with that D'Angelo Russel stat line

  • @jaylena4003
    @jaylena4003 Před 8 měsíci +3

    Thank you for all the hardwork and commitment for the stats Jxmy

  • @nenish
    @nenish Před 8 měsíci +667

    I think a good place to test this and other new rule changes would be the in-season tournament. I think it would make the games more interesting and probably attract more viewership.

    • @darlingboyMMA
      @darlingboyMMA Před 8 měsíci +84

      Sir you're onto something. Only problem is that these games count towards your regular season record.

    • @oliverqueen18
      @oliverqueen18 Před 8 měsíci +16

      imo it. makes the basketball into a circus

    • @hankanatorpoo8777
      @hankanatorpoo8777 Před 8 měsíci

      how?@@oliverqueen18

    • @Itchyboy_
      @Itchyboy_ Před 8 měsíci +3

      @@oliverqueen18what language are you speaking?

    • @majestyirving1372
      @majestyirving1372 Před 8 měsíci

      @@Itchyboy_use context clues mf

  • @Kevinholland_glazer
    @Kevinholland_glazer Před 8 měsíci +1330

    It’s always a good day when jimmy uploads💪

  • @MaraqoiLProductions
    @MaraqoiLProductions Před 8 měsíci +28

    I know this was about the 4 point line but seeing jokic being by far the most effective big man is insane 😂😂

  • @Alevrec
    @Alevrec Před měsícem

    I love these videos they always blow my mind! Jimmy keeps me in the nba loop. It's crazy how the games evolved.

  • @55GingaNinja
    @55GingaNinja Před 8 měsíci +237

    My main concern with this data is that most of the shots beyond 29 ft are at the end of the shot clock/quarter. So, they're taken out of necessity rather than planned shots. I think making the distance 30+ ft might work, but maybe even further because we don't know how it would play out once teams create plays dedicated to a 4 pointer.

    • @loganakafusion5490
      @loganakafusion5490 Před 8 měsíci +22

      Trae does it for fun

    • @igbasketballtalk
      @igbasketballtalk Před 8 měsíci +36

      I'd be interested to see the data with shots beyond half-court filtered out. Poole's percentage alone would've been 36% on 64 attempts in that case which is pretty insane.

    • @deathshotpra3458
      @deathshotpra3458 Před 8 měsíci +1

      ​@@igbasketballtalkPercentages on 3's are factored in at those ranges, but 4's can't be?

    • @igbasketballtalk
      @igbasketballtalk Před 8 měsíci +9

      @@deathshotpra3458 sure, but they hold more weight on the calculation of "4pt%" because the relative sample size is so much smaller. Most players attempt so many 3s that heaves account for a negligible portion. But in Luka's case, for example, they account for over 1/4 of his 4pt attempts.
      I'm not proposing an official way to track the percentages, I just noticed you could remove some of the noise in the numbers to better reflect how good players actually are at making these shots.

    • @deathshotpra3458
      @deathshotpra3458 Před 8 měsíci

      @igbasketballtalk That's part of the game tho. No one heaves for fun and no one takes those shots unless beating a buzzer. I'm not just saying half court and beyond shots, just like anything behind a 3pt line counts then so should anything behind a 4. I'm sure Jxmy thought about that too and would have done that for the video if that had that big of a difference in impact.
      The video is about the volume and accuracy that a player takes those shots. Luka nor Poole is throwing up volume like Trae. Percentage out of 10 shots can look good but doesn't compare to a percentage out of 100 because of volume.

  • @jsawyy23
    @jsawyy23 Před 8 měsíci +163

    Trae young boutta petition for a 4 point line if he see this 😭😭

  • @mickeymorant
    @mickeymorant Před 8 měsíci +2

    I think an interesting idea is: instead of a 4 point line at 30 feet, moving the 3 point line back a few feet. Would it balance the efficiency between elite bigs and elite sharpshooters? IMO, your very last chart makes clear that Jokic is actually even more dominant than meets the eye. He's shooting at an unmatched efficiency from close to the basket while also providing a ton of value through other means (assists and rebounds). What this tells me is that Jokic's dominance is being slightly stifled by the inherently higher value of 3-point shots. If we equalized efficiency across all ranges, he would be head and shoulders above the rest of the league, it wouldn't even be close.

  • @nitrogamer6101
    @nitrogamer6101 Před 8 měsíci +25

    The biggest problem with it is if there is a 4 point line it will revolutionize the NBA the same way that the 3 point line did but to an even higher degree. For example when the 3 point line was made everyone thought it was a bad shot until the game kept progressing eventually until now where people are complaining because how it has been exploited. Banger upload!!!

    • @melodyisdead503
      @melodyisdead503 Před 8 měsíci +1

      I totally agree. Defending three pointers and consequently the paint with todays spacing is already a killer. A 4 point shot with Trae Young like efficiency would kill every defense.

    • @Wodz30
      @Wodz30 Před 8 měsíci

      Right but even 30 years from now virtually no one would be any good at that shot. So let's say player X lives on the 4 line and you let him just jack of 30 4 point attempts per game. He would make one or two of those. I am not defending a guy that MIGHT score 8 total points from that distance. No matter how many players in the world practice this shot, it does not mean they would ever become elite at it

    • @melodyisdead503
      @melodyisdead503 Před 8 měsíci +9

      @@Wodz30 Wait... did that Video not establish that Trey with a 4 point line would be bonkers? We are talking 30% from 4 point range. I think you underestimate what is possible. At the moment its just not worth to shoot from 30ft, but with a 4 point line you 'd see the average effectiveness go up quicker than you'd like. I mean people are/were complaining about the 3 point line. Life finds a way or in this case: players and coaches.

  • @peldoria
    @peldoria Před 8 měsíci +329

    The 30 ft shots have similar shooting percentages because they are generally more open because no one is up there defending. But if you made that shot worth 4, the defenses would then try harder and those percentages would drop, they probably wouldn't get as many shot and more threes would be taken instead of 4s

    • @Jacob_He
      @Jacob_He Před 8 měsíci +34

      Other side of the argument is that players and teams would also practice these shots and find a place for the shots in their offenses. That and the difficulty defending so much ground (made harder when great shooters like Steph and Trae are also fast and capable of penetrating the paint), from the paint all the way to 30 feet out, might be enough to counter the more aggressive defense.

    • @Rmacon4002
      @Rmacon4002 Před 8 měsíci +23

      Defense stretched out that far would be crazy easy work. It would devolve I’m to pick your poison. Uncontested lay or uncontested 4.

    • @kosmique
      @kosmique Před 8 měsíci +13

      the game would get ugly af with that 4pt shot bullshit... its already damn ugly watching teams shoot 3s all game.

    • @peldoria
      @peldoria Před 8 měsíci +6

      @@Jacob_He I agree the game would be higher scoring but not because of more 4s scored. But because of all the open space defending that high up would create

    • @JJFX-
      @JJFX- Před 8 měsíci +1

      ​@@Jacob_HeThis is the main reason the teams he mentioned have a "4 point line" on practice courts. It isn't what most them are. It's used primarily as a marker for practicing spacing against long range offense. They obviously aren't calling it a 4 pointer in practice. That wouldn't make any sense and I'm surprised he didn't clarify this.
      If the shot was actually worth 4 these defensive strategies would be more of a priority but they already are working it into their gameplay.

  • @ulfur7584
    @ulfur7584 Před 8 měsíci +547

    Im not even an NBA fan, dont watch a single game all year but I do love every video you do. I cant imagine the amount of time you spend putting together all this data, graphs, ect, just know its extremely interesting (even to non NBA fans), well presented and entertaining to watch every time. Keep it up

    • @angelc4
      @angelc4 Před 8 měsíci +3

      No one asked lil bro

    • @ulfur7584
      @ulfur7584 Před 8 měsíci

      @@angelc4 i missed someone asking you for your comment, but honestly, how sad can your life be, how empty and pathetic are you that you took the time to comment that, you need to sort your life out mate

    • @ruilopes00
      @ruilopes00 Před 8 měsíci +45

      ​@@angelc4🤦‍♂️

    • @salazarf2
      @salazarf2 Před 8 měsíci +35

      @angelc4 it's a complement to Jimmy bro.. someone who doesn't like basketball and still enjoys "basketball" content from a CZcamsr is a huge complement. Relax your tits

    • @friendlyneighbourhoodanarc3039
      @friendlyneighbourhoodanarc3039 Před 8 měsíci

      Jimmy doesn't know the first thing about stats, I'm sorry that you are being misinformed about basketball so badly. If you didn't watch these videos maybe you'd watch the NBA

  • @FMcuentacuentos
    @FMcuentacuentos Před 6 měsíci

    I’ve seen your videos with great interest. You are not only entertaining, but very educational for all basketball fans. Your obsesion for data is, and I can’t find a better word now, absolutely charming. Also, your voice technique is spectacular. I really enjoy your work.
    Greetings from Chile.

  • @tpeliska
    @tpeliska Před 8 měsíci +15

    Awesome video. Wouldn’t defenses change to defend differently against a 4 point shot if it existed? Wouldn’t players be more likely to take shots from farther if they were incentivized? Would be interesting.

  • @I_am_Soulfix
    @I_am_Soulfix Před 8 měsíci +123

    The video hasn't even started yet and I'm already impressed by how good your videos are getting. The grind pays off in the bank and the skills.

    • @TheForbiddenDance
      @TheForbiddenDance Před 8 měsíci +4

      Dude these people hire professional editors

    • @sus9521
      @sus9521 Před 8 měsíci +3

      This some next level glazing lmao😂

    • @WhyHighC
      @WhyHighC Před 8 měsíci

      Ridin' D wit no license is still illegal in 47 states my guy

  • @99_Planet
    @99_Planet Před 8 měsíci +115

    Hot take: if they add a four point line then they should change the 3 Second rule/really make the center more of a goalie position.
    Hear me out: The floor will be so spaced out due to players seeking high value shots that the midrange will die off entirely. Basically the 2 ball goes to whoever can blow by their defender for a lay.

    • @s_ame1135
      @s_ame1135 Před 8 měsíci +25

      Agree. It would make sense to remove the defensive 3 seconds violation if this is the case.

    • @tercial
      @tercial Před 8 měsíci

      Midrange been dying out

    • @Criativo77
      @Criativo77 Před 8 měsíci +1

      Not only that, I think they also should remove hand checking

    • @Michael-ki5oz
      @Michael-ki5oz Před 8 měsíci +3

      ​@@Criativo77nah that causes too many injuries, fucked up Jordan's fingers so much that he couldn't handle the ball the same at all later in his career

    • @jamesedwards1284
      @jamesedwards1284 Před 8 měsíci +4

      It’s in an nba only rule, doesnt even exist in fiba play

  • @TheTallRaver
    @TheTallRaver Před 7 měsíci +1

    Fantastic data and analysis! Great job compiling it so coherently!
    Very interesting video! Thanks👍

  • @don6148
    @don6148 Před 8 měsíci

    Thanks for all the quality and informative videos you make, keep it up! BIG fan~

  • @brudapeace
    @brudapeace Před 8 měsíci +139

    The goat Jimmy back with another classic, he just don't miss

    • @miguelconamor6687
      @miguelconamor6687 Před 8 měsíci +5

      He's like Trae from the 4-point line - he just don't miss

  • @grimreaper9257
    @grimreaper9257 Před 8 měsíci +23

    Did anyone else notice at 7:22 it says 12-28-2023 for D’Angelo Russell, this man jimmy is so good at calculating he calculated the future 😭

  • @brandonperry7639
    @brandonperry7639 Před 7 měsíci

    I always love you dedication to researching everything for a video man. Great vid!

  • @darandompancake405
    @darandompancake405 Před 3 měsíci +3

    I don't care for sports, at all. But the numbers and listening to passionate rants hooked me into this vid still. Insane vid and editing, great work :)

  • @trimotionmedia5487
    @trimotionmedia5487 Před 8 měsíci +280

    Fantastic video as always. Jxmy's ability to craft and narrate a story is unmatched. One thing I'd like to note, is how a 4point line would change the end of games. If teams were down by 8 points with 30 seconds left, would teams start taking the chance at 4pointers more often? Would that spread the floor even more and allow for more fake 4 point plays that lead to easy 2's and 3's? I think it would drastically change the end game scenarios, but only slightly change the main portion of the game. Probably just spread the floor a bit more.

    • @shanekeenaNYC
      @shanekeenaNYC Před 3 měsíci +1

      Way I see it, it's more about the crease than the arc. Get rid of the crease, how is the game changed?

  • @DavidMiller-wd1fv
    @DavidMiller-wd1fv Před 8 měsíci +221

    I don’t really think you could just go back and see how it would be different if their shots were 4 points because if the 4 point line was actually there already, their decision would be different due to actually having the option to shoot a 4 pointer in front of them

    • @ddaggermc7040
      @ddaggermc7040 Před 8 měsíci +30

      Also as Jimmy said at the start, not all team practice the 4 pointer so if the 4 pointer actually existed it would mbe hard to say due to other people actually practicing the shot

    • @thomasjackson6852
      @thomasjackson6852 Před 8 měsíci +3

      Exactly what I was thinking throughout the vid

    • @keyalorin6954
      @keyalorin6954 Před 8 měsíci +2

      100% agree

    • @VB-us3cx
      @VB-us3cx Před 8 měsíci +1

      CORRECT

    • @Spellchecc1OO
      @Spellchecc1OO Před 8 měsíci

      Listen a little more, he addressed that at the start. Peanut gallery headass

  • @TheMagn1fico
    @TheMagn1fico Před 8 měsíci +1

    Great job! Impressive analysis, and amazing video quality. Was a joy to watch.

  • @f.e.e.l
    @f.e.e.l Před 7 měsíci

    I'm truly impressed by the info, execution and presentation of this video. Feels like a high class BBC documentary. Great job.

  • @individuox2264
    @individuox2264 Před 8 měsíci +175

    My boy Young getting some deserved respect. Go Hawks 💪

    • @bigdogstatus83
      @bigdogstatus83 Před 8 měsíci +5

      overrated player.

    • @jnthnmrry
      @jnthnmrry Před 8 měsíci +20

      @@bigdogstatus83heavily underrated wtf do you mean

    • @bigdogstatus83
      @bigdogstatus83 Před 8 měsíci +3

      @@jnthnmrry He is small and a liability. He's a volume shooter.

    • @jnthnmrry
      @jnthnmrry Před 8 měsíci +9

      @@bigdogstatus83 he leads the league in assists every year, volume scorer that is efficient for the hawks offensive sets, good off ball shooter, lob threat, and on defense he clogs lanes and steals the ball, on or off.. he’s a phenomenal player

    • @bigdogstatus83
      @bigdogstatus83 Před 8 měsíci

      @@jnthnmrry Okay, I'd take many many players over him. He doesn't clog anything. Giving up Luka for him was so idiotic by the Hawks. Almost every Hawks fan admits that.

  • @Splode
    @Splode Před 8 měsíci +54

    I don't normally comment on videos, but I never stopped smiling throughout this entire one. Thank you Jxmy, pure gold.

  • @XisteviediX
    @XisteviediX Před 3 měsíci

    what an incredibly detailed video. This must have taken forever to do. Respect!

  • @Saki630
    @Saki630 Před 8 měsíci +1

    Your setup, delivery, and final data display brought tears to my eyes!

  • @graybeckman9768
    @graybeckman9768 Před 8 měsíci +61

    As a hawks fan I now advocate a 4 point line. I knew he was good at those shots but that is nuts how valuable they would be.

    • @bigdogstatus83
      @bigdogstatus83 Před 8 měsíci +1

      he's overrated, a volume shooter and a defensive liability

    • @adamkratz5291
      @adamkratz5291 Před 8 měsíci

      @@bigdogstatus83 defensive liability sure, but being avolume shooter is a good thing when you're efficient. someone has to score

    • @bigdogstatus83
      @bigdogstatus83 Před 8 měsíci

      @@adamkratz5291 How is being a 43% overall field goal shooter and 33% 3-point shooter efficient?! lol. C'mon man, stop riding his D so hard. He's a good player no doubt, but don't tell me he's very efficient! Numbers don't lie. Oh, and those numbers get worse in the playoffs! Should have taken Luka!

    • @bigdogstatus83
      @bigdogstatus83 Před 8 měsíci

      @@adamkratz5291 How the heck is he efficient when is fg % is 43% and his 3 pt % is 33% 😆 C'mon man, I like Trae overall and I think he can certainly improve a bit but he's not an efficient shooter. Is he a good playmaker as a point guard, sure. That's a different point. We're talking about his shooting.

    • @tylera5657
      @tylera5657 Před 8 měsíci +1

      @@bigdogstatus83he had a down year last year but his team’s offense still had the 7th highest offensive rating and 2nd most points per game last season, without him those numbers go way down. Bro has 1 down year and mfs act like he isn’t a top 5 point guard

  • @kentrellp3976
    @kentrellp3976 Před 8 měsíci +1

    Over the last year I been watching this channel, every single video is better and better, and have increased in quality of production, research and assembly of the data you have found. Just some incredible videos to watch 💪🔥

  • @wyattkrumanaker6116
    @wyattkrumanaker6116 Před 2 měsíci

    shoutout to jxmy he deserves way more love than he’s got for the content quality

  • @taterus8224
    @taterus8224 Před 8 měsíci +141

    as a trae fan, i would love to see the 4 pointer in the league. at least for a season just to test it out

    • @yason896
      @yason896 Před 8 měsíci +20

      Dont bro i dont want to see players trading half courts

    • @etanabu2232
      @etanabu2232 Před 8 měsíci

      nah it would be funny seeing someone think they that good@@yason896

    • @thientrihuynhngoc8134
      @thientrihuynhngoc8134 Před 8 měsíci +7

      That means there would be more bags for offensive players….IMO it’s not a good idea…

    • @awelch31
      @awelch31 Před 8 měsíci +3

      Would spread the floor even more. Even more wide open dunks. Would be nothing but 3s,4s, layups and dunks back n forth with not much else, including defense. We’d be bored with it after a season, or sooner

    • @mastersplinter483
      @mastersplinter483 Před 8 měsíci

      until trae leaves in free agency, and your stuck with a new rule change without trae.

  • @user1164
    @user1164 Před 8 měsíci +7

    The idea of a four point line in the NBA would simply be catastrophic and the league would never be the same again.

    • @NotGord
      @NotGord Před 8 měsíci +4

      They should have it just for the all Star game or something.

  • @jayysmooth17
    @jayysmooth17 Před 8 měsíci

    “I had a lot of time on my hands, AND this is what happened.”
    Love your videos. I watch them all.

  • @iitstre_4550
    @iitstre_4550 Před 8 měsíci +3

    What I love most about Jimmy is that he’s found Gold in a subject that has nearly endless life (given the lifespan of a human).
    So like we could get Jimmy videos forever. The NBA isnt going anywhere anytime soon.

  • @serroche
    @serroche Před 8 měsíci +18

    Man the stats in this video are on another level, probably one of your top videos ever Jxmy! I appreciate the effort you put in all of them!

  • @jaideepnandha9943
    @jaideepnandha9943 Před 8 měsíci +7

    The amount of work that goes into these videos are insane, keep it up jimmy.🔥🔥

  • @baro0202
    @baro0202 Před 7 měsíci

    Man. I love your analysis on all your topics. You are a GOAT

  • @SeldomSeen124
    @SeldomSeen124 Před 3 měsíci +1

    I paused @6:50 when you asked "who would be the best 4 pointers in the league? Well, the answer may not be what you think." and thought to myself, Trae, Damian, & Steph. Seemed kinda obvious at first, but once you broke down the stats further you blew my mind! Great Vid!

  • @dallasanddrewtv885
    @dallasanddrewtv885 Před 8 měsíci +43

    Aye, shout out to Jxmy for coming out with creative content during the off-season. This man is a master at his craft.

  • @iso_cole
    @iso_cole Před 8 měsíci +7

    A jxmy upload always brightens my day! Stay on the grind my man

  • @DynastyFade
    @DynastyFade Před 8 měsíci

    God damn Jimmy puttin' together data that we haven't even thought of! I really appreciate the effort. These videos are incredible.

  • @ShakiraJonay
    @ShakiraJonay Před 8 měsíci

    Great storytelling. These videos are always so entertaining

  • @helixzenith
    @helixzenith Před 8 měsíci +3

    7:10. Gotta give it to D’Lo. He was shooting so efficiently from far out that he made shots into the future.

  • @detroitmidunkin2138
    @detroitmidunkin2138 Před 8 měsíci +7

    I never knew the WNBA had an all-star game. You learn something new everyday.

  • @-Spence
    @-Spence Před 8 měsíci

    The research you put into this is extremely impressive!

  • @jamesvanlangeveld459
    @jamesvanlangeveld459 Před 8 měsíci

    The work you put into this video is impressive! Thanks for sharing.

  • @alexbrown1701
    @alexbrown1701 Před 8 měsíci +5

    world hunger would be solved if this man did daily uploads

  • @benjamink7105
    @benjamink7105 Před 8 měsíci +14

    This just further clarifies why I like watching Trae play. Number one is he doesn't shy away from pressure, stepping up his performance whenever he gets a sniff of the playoffs. No fear. My favorite trait.
    But then this video is exposing the other reason: he's like watching the circus or something! Just insane shots, out there shorter than anybody else just snatching souls. It's really fun to watch. Hope he creates a winner in Atlanta or wherever, I need to him every year in the playoffs like I used to need to see Reggie Miller.

  • @mvargojr
    @mvargojr Před 8 měsíci

    Smooth intro, love all your videos man, you always kill it

  • @Erghotas
    @Erghotas Před 7 měsíci

    You're crazy, imagine how much work this man puts into his videos, keep the work broo!

  • @coolname9458
    @coolname9458 Před 8 měsíci +11

    I always appreciate the effort that jxmy puts into his videos

  • @_NPJ
    @_NPJ Před 8 měsíci +46

    This is an amazing video with tons of effort put in. It’s impossible to know the true impact a 4 point line would have on the future games cause players would start practicing it more and more to become even more efficient.

    • @frightenedsoul
      @frightenedsoul Před 5 měsíci +2

      And also teams would have plans on how to defend it better.

  • @Mrzoux1
    @Mrzoux1 Před 5 měsíci

    Great production value, you clearly put effort into this, it looks awesome!

  • @reneramirez7777
    @reneramirez7777 Před 8 měsíci

    i really like the way you present the stats into all those graphcis are really amezin!! what tool do you use for those chart's presentations?

  • @mcam4132
    @mcam4132 Před 8 měsíci +38

    Can we give props to Jxmy for all the data he collected to make a quality video for us?

    • @KingstonDope
      @KingstonDope Před 8 měsíci +5

      Doing tricks on it

    • @SplashYT.
      @SplashYT. Před 8 měsíci

      ​@@KingstonDopesthu bro

    • @JackJack-py8cf
      @JackJack-py8cf Před 8 měsíci

      ​@@KingstonDope💀

    • @mcam4132
      @mcam4132 Před 8 měsíci +1

      @@KingstonDope cant even support somebody and their work anymore these days 💀

  • @SuckerPunchACop
    @SuckerPunchACop Před 8 měsíci +7

    Jimmy stays putting out bangers 💣

  • @thebufman
    @thebufman Před 7 měsíci +2

    Another great vid Jxmy. I’m curious to know how many game results would change if all the successful 4 pointers were counted towards the score and not just the game-tying/winning shots 🤔

  • @Madskillsuniversity
    @Madskillsuniversity Před 8 měsíci

    This is awesome! Very educational, entertaining and fun. Thanks, bro.

  • @gk.dopeesq.6853
    @gk.dopeesq.6853 Před 8 měsíci +10

    Very interesting. I'd push back on the idea that adding a 4 point line wouldn't change much. Although I get how you came to that conclusion , the issue with going back and retroactively changing shots beyond 30' to 4 points is that it doesn't take into account that the strategy in those games would be different. The data doesn't show how many shots from beyond 30 were last second heaves v shots forced under pressure v shots that are deliberately taken, etc. The only way to really know would be to play out games and see if like the average margin of victory significantly changes or something like that. Overall a great video though

  • @TheLolek33
    @TheLolek33 Před 8 měsíci +2

    Dude, every time you put a film on this channel I'm so excited like a child. Your content is really something else. Everything is just sooo perfect. I think no one even comparing to what you're doing. Keep it that way plz. Greetings from Poland ;)

  • @rperez327
    @rperez327 Před 8 měsíci

    Once again, another well researched fantastic video. I'm not a basketball fan but every video is a treat.

  • @spicytuna62
    @spicytuna62 Před 7 měsíci

    The full graph at 12:34 is really interesting because it shows that (apart from some outliers) the kind of people who frequently attempt shots from 30+ feet out are the people who *_know_* they can make that shot.

  • @YossGold
    @YossGold Před 8 měsíci +4

    Love this vid man, looks like you put a LOT of work into it ... that said, I think a 4 point line would be the final blow to any sort of enjoyable basketball.

  • @tmacdwadekobe
    @tmacdwadekobe Před 8 měsíci +7

    Hawks fan here would love to see the 4-point shot implemented immediately!!!!

  • @nathanielberele9174
    @nathanielberele9174 Před 8 měsíci +3

    I think that we need to remove shots from 40+ feet since those are often last minute heaves. This is not a big deal for 3's since there is enough volume to cancel this out. However, for 4 point shots, the small sample size makes the few heaves lower the percentage significantly.

    • @robertheadley3483
      @robertheadley3483 Před 8 měsíci

      I wonder if he removed those shots and all the 30+ shots from the current 3 point shot data on those estimations.
      How much more efficient are the numbers on current 3s if you remove the +30 footers.

    • @nathanielberele9174
      @nathanielberele9174 Před 8 měsíci

      @@robertheadley3483
      For the 3's, most of them are taken close to the line and it is a very low percentage that are taken from very far. For the theoretical 4's, teams are not lining up to shoot at the non existent line. so the amount of shots that are last second heaves are a greater percentage of the total amount of 4's in the data.

    • @brandonb.5304
      @brandonb.5304 Před 6 měsíci

      Yeah, Curry is always taking last second heaves from or past half court at the end of quarters, which hurts his percentage, but he takes them because he can make them over a quarter of the time. Those types of rushed, last second shots are different than planned, set shots from 30 feet out.

  • @Timz009
    @Timz009 Před měsícem

    This might be one of the best videos I’ve ever seen on CZcams…incredible job Jimmy! 🔥👏🏾

  • @no_360scope9
    @no_360scope9 Před 8 měsíci +12

    The editing and the charts are superb, Jimmy videos are art and this is his special unique craft/ability

  • @ShowTheOreo
    @ShowTheOreo Před 8 měsíci +9

    Respect for grinding thru all the games last season 💪 also as a hawks fan this is an absolute win

  • @EastndFTball
    @EastndFTball Před 4 měsíci

    Really well done, dude. Thanks for sharing

  • @RuffTurtle
    @RuffTurtle Před 8 měsíci

    These are the ones I love. Thanks for the content.

  • @shockboomjj7070
    @shockboomjj7070 Před 8 měsíci +12

    Great video Jimmy, just a few things to consider though. It looks like you’ve included heaves from way beyond 30 ft in these percentages, so it’s likely players would have a better 4 point percentage than what currently exists (3 point percentage would also jump when a 4 point shot gets added because those heaves no longer count as 3’s + defense scheme changes would probably make 3’s easier to take away 4’s). The 3 point % probably wouldn’t change much, but that 17% from 4 should quickly spike up.
    It’s a fun idea to speculate, but the second a 4 pointer was actually implemented, the game would change drastically. The rate that they would be taken would increase dramatically for all players who have a bit of range, defensive schemes would change, and all other shots should become more efficient as the threat of a 4 pointer is going to space the floor even more than 3’s currently do.

  • @Renvil_
    @Renvil_ Před 8 měsíci +9

    I just LOVE these videos, Jimmy! Mad respect for all the work you put into them, crunching numbers, evaluation the circumstances, and delivers the lines... Kudos to you, man, and keep it UP!

  • @thattubaguy217
    @thattubaguy217 Před 7 měsíci

    I honestly rarely if ever watch basketball, but seeing the math and statistics behind everything is so interesting, I might have to look into it more!

  • @magnum7385
    @magnum7385 Před 3 měsíci

    I'm not really a 'sports guy' ... but this was fascinating. Fantastic delivery. Good stuff.

  • @SplashYT.
    @SplashYT. Před 8 měsíci +5

    There is no such thing as a JxmyHighroller video without seat geek or draft kings.