Affordable Bokeh for Fujifilm - A Fujinon Killer Review
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- čas přidán 24. 12. 2022
- This is Viltrox latest edition to their mirrorless lens lineup and its a good one. The 75mm f1.2 Pro. If its good enough to out value their own 85mm is debatable. I know the Fuji Fanboy Online Militia dont like these kind of videos. But remember, just because this lens is nice doesn’t make your Fujinon worse.
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Here you can watch my videos about the Viltrox 85mm f1.8:
Part 1,
• Part 1/2 - Viltrox 85m...
Part 2,
• The best affordable Fu...
85mm f1.8 vs 90mm f2,
• Affordable vs Expensiv...
And a few others:
Viltrox 13mm f1.4,
• Quick Review - Viltrox...
Viltrox 33mm f1.4,
• 5 First Impressions - ...
Viltrox 56mm f1.4,
• My thoughts on the Vil... - Zábava
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This lens hits a sweet spot, where the 75 mm is not as wide as the 56 mm, and not as restrictive as a 90 mm native options, so I would say perfect for my use case. Pairing this with the Fuji 35 1.4 and Sigma 16 1.4, the holy trinity of Fast Fuji is complete. I would comfortably look at this combo (along with the Sigma 18-50 [or Fuji 16 55] and Fuji 55-200 Zooms, of course) as the one size fits all solution for event and wedding photography gigs as well travel photography etc :)
Add the Fuji 16-80 zoom it's a killer
@@jordanjoestar8839 It's a lovely range, but is the f/4 not too restrictive?
@@jayforcinema It is. 2.8 for a standard zoom I find is required on APSC.
Now Viltrox *need* to update the trio (23, 35, and 56mm) so they have the clicked aperture, and comparable IQ to their two latest releases.
how about they come up with a 18 1.2?
@@caglartunca34 if they could keep it relatively the same size as their 13 or even smaller. Their trio on the other hand have huge potential, if they could compete with Fujinon IQ wise, while being cheaper.
I'd be happy with a 70-200 equivalent
@@Las_cacas That's fine, if Viktrox could do that, but let's hold our horses for now. Viltrox only have experiences making prime lenses so far.
@@paceyombex yup, it's a pipe dream. But if they could pull it off and keep the price under 1,000 I'd be very happy. The telephoto options in the Fuji system really sucks.
Thanks for taking an early look at this lens. I photograph a lot of stage performances, so I'm interested in it for those occasions where I need something longer than my Fuji 56/1.2 but faster than my 90/2 (you might be surprised at how often such situations arise in theaters!) I wish you had given some thoughts on color fringing, and on flare when shooting into the light, but maybe after the public release (Dec. 26?) there will be some more reviews covering such details.
I mentioned the lack of fringing in the graphic underneath one of the images. The short story is that I honestly haven’t seen even a trace of it in any of the images I’ve taken. But I’m sure there will be reviewers that deep dives into the subject.
Christopher Frost covered those things in his review.
There is no basically no fringing but it does flare when shooting into light.
Enjoyed your video. A size and weight comparison against the direct competitors would have been nice
a nice short review and the price point and total package looks appealing.
though i wonder why the test on the focus speed in this matter at 2:35 ? what equivalent lens would do better in that scinario? maybe the 90f2 is fast enough to keep up in that close focus distance and so if the 90f2 would be able to focus fast enough, this is a negative against the 75?
I think its interesting of you Mattias to compare the value and necessity of this lens compared to its cheaper 85mm brother (which I own it), I imagine that for most people who shoot portraits, f stop is the first number that they look at and its hard in my experience shopping to turn down better performance if I know the better option is within $100 bucks or so. But I agree that in relative terms these lens are almost too similar for one smaller third party to make and not hurt there own sales
The lens looks awesome! I have the 56 and the 90 from Fuji. The AF on the 56 is not that fast but otherwise it is very sharp. The 90mm is one of my favorite lenses. It is the sharpest lens I have used. If you can get it used in good condition like I did then it is a steal for around 550 bucks.
@@frankluo230 A 90 mm and 135 mm is not the same in design, regardless of sensor size.
@@anonymousl5150 your point?
@@frankluo230 exotic glasses?
love your work
Seems like a nice one. The price is pretty decent all told, aperture ring is appreciated, and in my experience Viltrox products are generally good quality. God Jul till dig och din familj!
God Jul 🎄
Viltrox and others do an impressive job with Fujifilm. Any mild variances in colour and contrast seem really noticeable on a Fuji, since their style is so intense, and these third party manifacturers still thread the needle pretty well.
There are even Fujifilm lenses I won't buy for my Fujifilm because they have a totally different look to the others I have, and I don't want to constantly correct the inconsistencies in post. Switching from the 50f2 to the 35f1.4 drove me nuts trying to match skin tone and hues. I think if I was to start again with what I know now, I'd probably just get an X100 and call it a day, only to realise I should have bought a Ricoh GR instead. 😂
Nice. Still torn on this. I have all the Viltrox primes and am struggling to see a use case for this one that means my already great 85mm needs to be retired...
This might be the lens I’m looking for. Sharp, low fringing, aperture ring, good price, hecking bright. I think I could put up with it being a hefty lens by X-mount standards. But the 88cm minimum focus distance seems like it might annoy me. If it was ~60-65cm, I’d probably be preordering ASAP.
60cm MFD for a tele lens is asking for a bit too much.
@@ShutterKnack Fuji 90/2 is 60cm, Samyang 85/1.8 compact MF is 65cm. Upcoming Canon 135/1.8 is 70cm.
But yeah, it's perhaps ambitious. 60 is the don't-think-just-buy spec to me. 70cm like the Pentax DA 70 probably would still be great. 88 is something I'm going to need a bit of time to mull over. I don't shoot many portraits personally, so a tad more versatility would be important to me.
But dang is it a tempting lens. Incredible IQ from all the reviews and the crazy shallow DOF, for a very nice price.
Back now I'm fully awake and on a break and it's better on the big screen 🙂
Edit: forgot to say your box is totally different to mine
I own the Viltrox 56 mm prime lens for Fuji. Despite all the CZcamsrs say that it is a terrible lens, I think it’s good enough lens for a hobbyist photographer like myself. Thinking to switch to Sigma 56 mm lens, though. Maybe in the future when its second-hand lens has become more affordable.
You're not wrong. Viltrox 56mm is a perfectly good lens for the hobbyist and offers tremendous value for money. Having owned it then bought the Sigma, I can say the Sigma is a much better lens in every regard (except price of course). If you are happy to shell out the extra bit of cash for the Sigma then you will not be disappointed
+1 to what Gareth said. I just swapped my old Fuji 50mm F2 for the Sigma 56. I tried the Viltrox but the Sigma really is significantly superior, even to this amateur hobbyist.
Thanks for sharing your personal experience, Max and Gareth! Hope I can hop on the Sigma bandwagon soon too 💪
@@maxwiltshire6159 I don't know why you'd swap out a Fuji 50 F2 for a Sigma 56, they're comparable in sharpness but the Fuji has better micro contrast and an aperture ring. Viltrox 56 also has superior microcontrast and saturation than the Sigma from what I tested. All these sharpness tests only test for one thing: sharpness; as if that is the only thing that makes a lens special.
@@anonymousl5150 not only sharpness, but aberration difference is huge, especially wide open, viltrox 56 @ 1.4 is a disaster, while sigma 56 @ 1.4 is almost clean from CA, and closing to F/2 its perfect, in comparison viltrox to get free from CA u need to close to F/4.
A 23mm 1.2 PRO lens would be nice!
Thanks Mattias.
wow wait this is so weird. Your from My city i saw punkt in on of the pictures. did not know that haha keep up the good work =)
Mattias, could you tell us something about the coma aberrations of this lens? I want to know if I can use for astro photography... normally this kind of lenses have a lot of coma aberrations at maximum aperture... thank you so much!
There basically is none. Very clean. If its good enough for astro? I have no idea.
Fuji has so may great prime options though that I think Viltrox might be saving the other APS-C platforms that have been neglected by their makers. Nikon Z comes to mind.
Sigma already did this for Leica TL (RIP) with their Trio. It would be great to Viltrox make a run of these lenses in TL mount.
i have 56 1.2 fuji and i love the sharpness.. i have owned 85mm 1.8 mark ii and sold it after 1 week of using it.. its a good lens until u saw the fringing... so i decide to sell it after 1 month of testing. hopefully this will be my next most loved lens because i wanted to replace my 56 1.2 that have terrible af
Totally desirable agreed.
You mean the new 56MM or the old one?
I just wish the Viktrox 13 1.4 lens gets weathersealing! Landscape lens really need that to brave the elements of weather.
I LOVE my XF 90, but 1.2?? Damn that's interesting.. I have, and shoot frequently, the Viltrox 33, and it's VERY good
yeah the 33 f1.4 is great, it could be almost perfect if viltrox put better coatings on the lens to prevent CA
I think what's crazy is that zooms are so good these days that you can compare a cheap prime to it, and consider the results manageable if it's up to par with the zoom.
Modern zoom lenses have comparable MTF (often better, depending on the prime), especially within the middle of the zoom range. I only ever use primes if (a) is a vintage lens with the benefits of low elements, (b) need more bokeh, especially for some portraits, and (c) it's a compact prime design. Otherwise a zoom lens in modern times is just far more flexible.
Define cheap?
@@unbroken1010 this lens is cheap, relatively or objectively for a 1.2 AF lens with that IQ quality
Exactly my problem.... big fan of viltrox.... but a 75mm is in my opinion in their line up just... weird.... 85mm f1.8 the DoF is already shallow enough for anyone shooting actual pictures.... and 75mm isn't really all that much wider than 85mm... the AF-C on Fuji is just... bad even with native lenses... if i ever see it on sale somewhere i might try it... until then i'm happy enough with my 56 and 85mm from Viltrox (curious about the size of the 75mm though as the 85mm is quite big on most fuji bodies)
Having shorter focal length means if you don’t want 85mm than 75mm is an option.
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I’m hoping this will replace my aging old 56mm the original, I will only purchase this if the auto focus is much better than 56mm.
it is
A 23 1.2, and a telephoto lens like a 70-200 and they will be king of the Fuji system. Thanks viltrox, I only have the 13 1.4 and I love it on my xh2s.
I wonder where the compromise point is? There has to be some form of manufacturing difference to justify the price reduction.
You just need to steal the lens formula from a Fuji OEM company in China. 😉
Is this an APS-C lens image circle wise?
Some of the text on the front of the lens says that the “image size” is 28.4mm, which is the diagonal length of an APS-C sensor. Maybe there’s a bit of wiggle room, but Sony and Nikon shooters hoping it would be suitable for FF use if brought to E or Z mount seem likely to be disappointed.
I absolutely love the 13mm f1.4
It's nice but a tad big. Been considering the Samyang 75mm 1.8 that just came out. It looks like a better fit for me.
Basedtrox does it again
Is this lens for full frame or for a crop sensor?
Crop
I think Fuji should make a 75mm f2 WR to go with the other smaller primes
This one is WR but yeah, f2 would be much smaller.
@@mattiasburling would be a nice match for the Xpro bodies
hii, can we use the viltrox 75 on xpro1? im just curious
It should not be a problem.
Options are always welcome from third parties, would be nice to see some APS-C primes for the Canon R7 since they'll never make any...oh wait. I really wish Fuji didn't give me a headache when using electronic lenses (the aperture ticking back down after focusing where it opens fully then ticks back to set aperture gives me a migraine with the flicker), I like the overall aesthetic of the X-E3/4, X-T20/T30, and X-T2/T3/T5. I would get a z fc, but I'll probably never get another Nikon after they basically stole my trade-in gear by receiving it with the tracking label confirming being signed for, then never contacting me again outside of support emails. Even then they never gave me an adjusted quote, nor a refund/credit for the trade-in. They took the gear and eventually support just ghosted me. Thankfully my bank took my side seeing it as a scam and did a chargeback on the order. I have since sold all of my Nikon gear, the 1/5 star rating they have with the Better Business Bureau is 1 star too much IMO.
Ah well, I'm happy with my Panasonic MFT gear and Sigma fp L I got second hand with next to no use. The color I get out of the fp handles what I miss from Fuji while I had it. The only 2 complaints I've shared with reviews have been a factory tilt screen would be nice and a built in or less expensive and better integrated (sensor for swapping) evf solution. Everything else I've either been able to get around easily or haven't encountered.
‘Fuji fanboy online militia’ haha love that shade 😊
I’ve been telling people that a 1.2 at 75 may not be much better than the 1.8 at 85 due to the wide focal length. It will be noticeable in the right conditions but that won’t be practical and consistent and worth the extra money.
Depends on what you mean by better. Sharpness, light, separation?
What’s the weight?
about 600gr. quite heavy as 16-55mm f2.8
Is this a macro lens?
No.
Can a person be on the fuji fan militia and also be a nikor lover? Or a nikonboy
X-H1 & D700 Chad reporting in
No.... it's the internet... you have to choose one camp and defend it beyond any reason... you can never admit that Nikon has nice cameras or some of the best lenses out there for DSLR (haven't tried a Nikon mirrorless yet)
But as long as we can all agree that Sony "cameras" are disgusting we can get along
Yeap, try the Fujifilm S5 Pro, a Nikon body, taking Nikon lenses, with the word Fujifilm on it.
not at all. I definitely don't use the lovely pairing of a nikon z5 for work and xt20 for fun
I have a Sony A7S. Never once have I put a Sony lens on it. In fact, I've never put an AF lens on it.
I still think the 50mm 1.0 is better , I got my first one for less than 700, but dropped it. Got another one for 700. I got this viltrox for 400 used, it is nice, but not xf 50mm 1.0 level
I think the af problems has more to do with the camera than the lens tbh. The tracking on the x-t3 is crazy bad.
Who's upset about more lens options?
i can assure you its the camera when it misses shots in continous focus..
Bummer, I thought Fuji would have come further in their development so far. On which camera have you used the 75mm? Curious to when the shift occurs?
@@mattiasburling haven't used 75 yet but getting a lot missed focus shots on continous af at my xt3 body on various xf lenses..even on the latest updates fuji's trackin ability is nowhere close Sony's..Thanks for the lovely video&wishing you a happy newyear
Good church lens if doing weddings with Fuji.
Happy holidays. Lots of Fuji fanboys like third party lens.
The full extra stop of light will be handy for concert photography.
Plus, it doesn't seem to be much larger than the 85mm .
Sony E?
for sure. It will be available for both Fuji X mount and Sony E mount. But the E-mount will come later
A little wait will do. They probably released it to the Fuji X first since Fujifilm already opened its protocols and has all the crop sensor cameras with professional tools.
@@carjac820 they always put out the Fuji version first.
Is this lens manufactured in China?
Yes
@@tamedprocess4415 Many thanks for the reply.
viltrox is the new sigma
Without a doubt a good lens ..... I would keep it but when I need perfection I would go with new fuji 56mm (portraits) .... or fuji 90mm
If you need perfection you probably should stay away from the 56 and 90...
@@mattiasburling ya thats your exp ... in my exp i would stick to 56mm f1.4 r wr
Though fly by wire was cheap? It's the kids fault. Tell them to stand still , 🤣
Who wants a 75mm when you can have an 85mm?
1) 85mm on a crop sensor isn't "85mm", so you're not fitting into a traditional focal length.
2) Someone might want that extra lowlight capability that the 1.2 gives
Focal length is a simple, measurable property of the lens itself, so 85mm is 85mm no matter what camera it's on (or even if it's on no camera - Grandma's reading glasses have a focal length that can be measured.) The only thing that changes from one camera format to another is the angle of view - on a Fujifilm camera, a 75mm lens will cover 17.9 degrees on the long side, while an 85mm will cover 15.8 degrees. So if you can live with 2 degrees wider coverage to get a maximum aperture 1 full f/stop larger, the 75 might be a better fit for you than the 85. Incidentally, if (for example) you're shooting a head-and-shoulder portrait with a subject height of 1 meter, the difference in shooting distance between 75mm and 85mm will be about what you could achieve by shifting your weight from your front foot to your back foot or vice-versa… it's only about 40cm difference!
f/1.4 is already a huge leap from f/1.8, let alone the f/1.2
fanboy outrage incoming 😂😂
That "image size" inscription on the front 🤮
Weird Video with you stating "i dont have anything good to compare it to" and "i guess the quality ist good"
There is nothing weird about that all. I’m a photographer, not a lens comparer.
What’s the weight?
about 600gr. quite heavy as 16-55mm f2.8