I DID IT!! My RF 28-70mm f/2 L just came in a few days ago. I was on the fence between this RF 28-70mm f/2L and the RF 85mm f/1.2L, but since I already have the RF 85mm f/2 IS, I can wait and get the 85mm "L" version later. This RF 28-70mm f/2L has replaced my EF 24-70mm f/2.8L and I'm loving it! 95mm filter thread was my main reason for holding off (and the cost of it), I can't find an ExpoDisc larger than 82mm and the 95mm filters are more expensive. But it's completely worth it! Did a couple corporate group shots this week where everyone needed to be 'socially distant' and loved using this lens on the EOS R5.
When I got my R5 I wanted the EyeAF and that's about it. The new lenses look amazing but I was happy with my old EF lenses. And with the drop in filter mount for the EF with a variable ND filter in it. I now leave the variable ND filter in. I no longer go into HSS on my flashes as I just ramp up the internal variable ND filter. So now I get 1200watts out of my 1200watt pack by not going into HSS by just using the internal Variable ND filter. It's been game changing on setting up shoots and having more power from the flashes. To go to the RF lenses I'd lose this ability or have to buy external variable ND filters for ALL my RF glass. So far, I'm sticking with EF glass. And the old EF85mm now focus's awesome with the eyeAF of the R5. The 28-70 also has some focus pumping when using it with video that I don't like that can be seen when videoing if you swing the camera. So for now I'll stick with EF glass. And the weight wasn't an issue. I use the R5 with the Canon 200mm F2 with the drop in filter adapter and variable ND also. Amazing. And heavy. LOL The same negatives that got me to primes are there with the 28-70. A prime still beats them at every focal length. Is it better? Yes. But it still isn't as good as a prime would be. The biggest negatives of the 28-70 for me was 1. Lose ability to use Canon adapter with internal variable ND 2. Focus Pumping 3. If I really want great bokeh I'd prefer a prime still 4. Expensive
I currently use the EF24-70f2.8 adapted technically it is super, however handling adapted on an R5/R6 seems to be too long and the weight shifts to the front a lot and it looks awkward. However the Photos are great, the speed and accuracy is perfect. the RF24-70 seems to be better on the edge and the contrast wide open, but only on the screen when rising shadows. If you need the 2.0 and are willing to take the 28-70f2.0 weight you need to go for it sparing some primes (there are nearly no Pro ones currently 28 or 35). If you don't have an old body anymore, sell the EF lens and buy the RF either 2.8 or 2.0 depending on the needs.
How much of an issue is the focus breathing on the 28-70? I push in and out a lot for camera movement, I’m worried that the focus breathing will be extremely distracting when I’m physically closer up, moving in and out.
Hi. I just bought R6, if you could buy just one lens will you get 50 1.2 or 28-70…. I been really after 50 1.2 for this magical look but came across 28-70 and starts to have doubts now
Thank you for this video... awesome production (both video and audio), I really enjoyed this! Great advice as I'm about to invest into my first mirrorless camera and I'm eyeing ether the Canon R6 OR R5 and trying to figure out an additional lens to start with, over and above the kit lens.
I was about to buy R5 + RF 28-70 2.0 + RF 70-200 IS 2.8... After your video I made some calculations and changed my decision. Now I'm thinking about R5 + EF 24-70 2.8 + EF 70-200 IS 2.8 v. III + 85mm 1.2, because its the same price but I will get 1 lens more, and its the Beast 85mm at 1.2 apperature. What you do you, what should I do?!
The 85 rf is definitely a beast, however I chose the 70-200 rf over it because I was able to get the same and even more out of it I’d love to have both tho! I’m thinking about the 28-70 Forsure now that I’ve seen so many great reviews, it’s a hard choice
Thanks for this video. For me as a hobbyist, the difference in quality vs the difference in price is too small to consider the RF 28-70, that much is clear to me now. Just wondering, which version of the EF 24-70 was used? (I'm a happy owner of the first version.)
Thanks for the video, i've seen several Canon EOS R videos, but i wondered, why is nobody using an battery grip ? i'm a portrait shooter and love the grip. what's your opinion on that ? 🙂
I'm considering this as a second camera for indoor sports (e.g. Basketball). How fast is the tracking and autofocus compared? My body is an R6. I can not find any meaning sports photographer reviews for this lens, but the f2 gives it a lot of potential.
As you have both R5 and the C300 sounds that your debate should be more like should you even have or purchase the RF 24-70.... keep the RF 28-70 for the R cameras and the EF for the C300... and you can use the EF also as backup for the R5
Is the lacking IS an issue with the 24 70 2.8? I definitely don't have the money, I am almost selling everything I own to upgrade, lol. I am thinking about the canon eos mark iv with the 24 70 2.8. I do mostly kids, babies, maternity and family photography.
Wie schaut es aus mit Focus Breathing beim Video shooten? Habe viele Leute gehört, die meinten, dass das für Videos ein KO Kriterium ist. Was sind deine Eindrücke?
a question: ddi you have also tried the 24-105 II or other mark 2 lense ef, i mean the second one, and verify that it make the 12 frame sec like the rf does?
So im planning to buy the canon R6, but with EF lenses do save some money. And dont care about weight and size because im not using it everyday or even full days Do you think i will notice alot of differnce in quality and autofocus? (Thinking about 24-70 f2.8 mark 2 and 70-200 f2.8 mark 3)
I love my Canon gear and just like true love it can be hard quantify why I love it. In saying that my bank manager would prefer I was more analytical 🤣
Hello thanx for your channel. Really great work. Have you ever used the sigma 24-70 f2.8 with the c300iii? I'm really indecisive between that and the canon 24-70 2.8. On one hand you have the af probably better with the canon, but the IS on the sigma. and i do a lot of run and gun. Thanx
Hey, awesome comparison vid man. I was wondering if it would be worth it to sell my rf 50mm f1.2, to get this lens. Do you think there'll be much of a difference in bokeh, have you tested this out already?
@@KaanSenel I just bought R6 and going to order one lens tomorrow, still on the fence which one to get 50 1.2 or 28-70… budget only for one unfortunately…
I DID IT!! My RF 28-70mm f/2 L just came in a few days ago.
I was on the fence between this RF 28-70mm f/2L and the RF 85mm f/1.2L, but since I already have the RF 85mm f/2 IS, I can wait and get the 85mm "L" version later.
This RF 28-70mm f/2L has replaced my EF 24-70mm f/2.8L and I'm loving it!
95mm filter thread was my main reason for holding off (and the cost of it), I can't find an ExpoDisc larger than 82mm and the 95mm filters are more expensive.
But it's completely worth it! Did a couple corporate group shots this week where everyone needed to be 'socially distant' and loved using this lens on the EOS R5.
When I got my R5 I wanted the EyeAF and that's about it. The new lenses look amazing but I was happy with my old EF lenses. And with the drop in filter mount for the EF with a variable ND filter in it. I now leave the variable ND filter in. I no longer go into HSS on my flashes as I just ramp up the internal variable ND filter. So now I get 1200watts out of my 1200watt pack by not going into HSS by just using the internal Variable ND filter. It's been game changing on setting up shoots and having more power from the flashes. To go to the RF lenses I'd lose this ability or have to buy external variable ND filters for ALL my RF glass. So far, I'm sticking with EF glass. And the old EF85mm now focus's awesome with the eyeAF of the R5.
The 28-70 also has some focus pumping when using it with video that I don't like that can be seen when videoing if you swing the camera. So for now I'll stick with EF glass. And the weight wasn't an issue. I use the R5 with the Canon 200mm F2 with the drop in filter adapter and variable ND also. Amazing. And heavy. LOL
The same negatives that got me to primes are there with the 28-70. A prime still beats them at every focal length. Is it better? Yes. But it still isn't as good as a prime would be.
The biggest negatives of the 28-70 for me was
1. Lose ability to use Canon adapter with internal variable ND
2. Focus Pumping
3. If I really want great bokeh I'd prefer a prime still
4. Expensive
Thanks man. I have the older EF lens, and this was stressing me out. Glad to see I don't really need to upgrade.
I currently use the EF24-70f2.8 adapted technically it is super, however handling adapted on an R5/R6 seems to be too long and the weight shifts to the front a lot and it looks awkward. However the Photos are great, the speed and accuracy is perfect. the RF24-70 seems to be better on the edge and the contrast wide open, but only on the screen when rising shadows. If you need the 2.0 and are willing to take the 28-70f2.0 weight you need to go for it sparing some primes (there are nearly no Pro ones currently 28 or 35). If you don't have an old body anymore, sell the EF lens and buy the RF either 2.8 or 2.0 depending on the needs.
ive never like the 24-70 range but for some reason i love the 28-70 its such a beast of a lens and really sharp
How much of an issue is the focus breathing on the 28-70? I push in and out a lot for camera movement, I’m worried that the focus breathing will be extremely distracting when I’m physically closer up, moving in and out.
Hi. I just bought R6, if you could buy just one lens will you get 50 1.2 or 28-70…. I been really after 50 1.2 for this magical look but came across 28-70 and starts to have doubts now
Thank you for this video... awesome production (both video and audio), I really enjoyed this! Great advice as I'm about to invest into my first mirrorless camera and I'm eyeing ether the Canon R6 OR R5 and trying to figure out an additional lens to start with, over and above the kit lens.
So your point scoring system was redundant. I appreciate the effort though.
I was about to buy R5 + RF 28-70 2.0 + RF 70-200 IS 2.8... After your video I made some calculations and changed my decision.
Now I'm thinking about R5 + EF 24-70 2.8 + EF 70-200 IS 2.8 v. III + 85mm 1.2, because its the same price but I will get 1 lens more, and its the Beast 85mm at 1.2 apperature.
What you do you, what should I do?!
The 85 rf is definitely a beast, however I chose the 70-200 rf over it because I was able to get the same and even more out of it I’d love to have both tho! I’m thinking about the 28-70 Forsure now that I’ve seen so many great reviews, it’s a hard choice
You should have do a same framing... F2 and F2.8 difference is not so big... The only benefit is a tad sharper and faster shutter..
…and bokeh
Excellent comparison.
Loved the photographs.
My fav wAs the one with the client on the steps at 13:12 .. loved the story told w that one.
That's the end of the video :D
Monkeypixels -
Sorry bout that ... I meant 10:32 :)
for sure loved ‘em all. - and the LUTS are pretty appealing :).
It yeah... that one was my fav:)
Thanks for this video. For me as a hobbyist, the difference in quality vs the difference in price is too small to consider the RF 28-70, that much is clear to me now.
Just wondering, which version of the EF 24-70 was used? (I'm a happy owner of the first version.)
Agree. This was the version II
@@damiencooper Thanks!
What about the 24-70 rf
would love to test that one as well one day. But since I need an EF lens for the C300.. that wouldn't make a lot of sense
Thanks for the video, i've seen several Canon EOS R videos, but i wondered, why is nobody using an battery grip ? i'm a portrait shooter and love the grip. what's your opinion on that ? 🙂
I'm considering this as a second camera for indoor sports (e.g. Basketball). How fast is the tracking and autofocus compared? My body is an R6. I can not find any meaning sports photographer reviews for this lens, but the f2 gives it a lot of potential.
Great comparison and review! Vienna is beautiful!!
May i ask you which freewell variable ND filter you use or recommend for the RF 28-70?
Thanks!!
I think there's only one ;). I mostly use the 2-5 stop as it is sufficient for me
As you have both R5 and the C300 sounds that your debate should be more like should you even have or purchase the RF 24-70.... keep the RF 28-70 for the R cameras and the EF for the C300... and you can use the EF also as backup for the R5
Yeah, I already have both lenses though. And I really love the 28-70. But I start feeling like this is more prestige than actually need :D
Is the lacking IS an issue with the 24 70 2.8? I definitely don't have the money, I am almost selling everything I own to upgrade, lol. I am thinking about the canon eos mark iv with the 24 70 2.8. I do mostly kids, babies, maternity and family photography.
Love your content!
love your videos
Wie schaut es aus mit Focus Breathing beim Video shooten? Habe viele Leute gehört, die meinten, dass das für Videos ein KO Kriterium ist. Was sind deine Eindrücke?
Great comparison, appreciate the video. Who makes the ND filters you were using.
Freewell
a question: ddi you have also tried the 24-105 II or other mark 2 lense ef, i mean the second one, and verify that it make the 12 frame sec like the rf does?
So im planning to buy the canon R6, but with EF lenses do save some money.
And dont care about weight and size because im not using it everyday or even full days
Do you think i will notice alot of differnce in quality and autofocus? (Thinking about 24-70 f2.8 mark 2 and 70-200 f2.8 mark 3)
You can buy the eos-m6 mark ii. It's light.
I love my Canon gear and just like true love it can be hard quantify why I love it. In saying that my bank manager would prefer I was more analytical 🤣
Trust me, mine is crying :D
What about image stabilisation?
Would your prefer the 28-70 in video as well? Loved the video!
Yeah. Use it all the time
would you recommend recording sports handheld with the rf 28-70?
Hello thanx for your channel. Really great work. Have you ever used the sigma 24-70 f2.8 with the c300iii? I'm really indecisive between that and the canon 24-70 2.8. On one hand you have the af probably better with the canon, but the IS on the sigma. and i do a lot of run and gun. Thanx
I honestly always go with Native lenses when it comes to cameras with autofocus. The AF is never as good and it's never as quiet.
Monkeypixels thanx.
Awesome video ! What lens do you prefer for sharp videos with R6 ? :)
the 28-70 is my absolute go to! I use this 95% of the time on the R6 and R5 for everything
Monkeypixels And the ef 24-70 is great in video ? The autofocus work great ?
Geometric Production just as good I would say. Just a little less bokeh.
Did you ever do an update for this video with the R5? From what I hear the R just was not powerful enough to bring out the full potential of the 2.0
As in? Autofocus?
@@damiencooper no I heard about the way it renders and overall IQ above and beyond the obvious improvement in just megapixels
Hey, awesome comparison vid man. I was wondering if it would be worth it to sell my rf 50mm f1.2, to get this lens. Do you think there'll be much of a difference in bokeh, have you tested this out already?
Why did you get the 1.2 to begin with? It's a different image for sure comparing to F2.0
@@nubscrub for the bokeh and low light performance obvi, but I prefer versatility with a little bit less bokeh with what I shoot atm
@@KaanSenel I just bought R6 and going to order one lens tomorrow, still on the fence which one to get 50 1.2 or 28-70… budget only for one unfortunately…
Did you try this lens when you had the C70? I’m curious how non stabilized zooms perform with handheld video on a camera without ibis.
no but I use it on the C300 all the time. I have absolutely no problem with it
@@damiencooper thanks for replying! And autofocus was still very good with EF glass on the R5?
@@jasonnowwhat5041 no difference in my opinion
Editing software and aspect ratio of this video please...!!!!
Final cut.
2:1
Used a lot of plugins for this. Link is in the description
Thank you sir
24-70mm 2.8 IS RF make a better versus!
Future Works it would for R users only. But for people who still need EF lenses like myself...
is the Ef 24-70 2.8 mark 1? or mark2?
2 ;)
😂😂😂