Porthole! Only way to go for some heavy beats! I honestly like my 2mic system, a boundary inside for the beater and a Beta52 centered outside on the reso
For heavy beats I do right in front of the reso head and then take it off and stuff a weighted blanket inside and record with mic in the same spot and it gives the most heavy tone with a clicky punch but still body
What’s interesting about this is that the offset mic positions makes the pitch a lot more audible which in this case is an F. This would work really well in certain situations but only those that don’t directly clash with the pitch (e.g a piece in D Major cus of the F#)
You want punch? Try taping a quarter onto the head and use a hard plastic beater OR tape a second quarter onto a regular beater. Warning, this will expose any weaknesses in your bass foot (feet) very quickly.
@@Dinosaurs_with_laser_guns I would say, the thing's designed to be beat to hell, BUT, placing one of those 4" bass head saving stickers where the beater hits first, THEN tape the quarter, you should be fine. Unless you're a leadfoot that naturally puts 75% of their full body weight behind each kick of course. 🥁🔊
I have Gretsch drums also. Got them maybe a month ago. I dont know what the difference is with these snares compared to others, but they are easy to tune up and have an incredible sound. Sounds like making popcorn, lol It's by far the best snare drum and sound I've ever had. I would like to add the kick drum to that list also. Deep punchy tone. The toms sound good also. The one im having trouble with is the 14" floor tom. I've tried every trick i know, plus I tried things from CZcams tutorials, and I just can't quite get it to sound right and flow with the others. By itself, you can get it to sound great. Even get it low enough you dont need a bass drum. Not sure what's going on at this point. Maybe i need to retune everything else around it. Everything else sounds great though. Heck, it might just be me. I've been hitting drums for almost 40 years now, lol
yep! some people i know jsut throw the mic inside the drum resting on the internal muffling stuff, sounds dull and woolly to my ears when they do that!!
nah two mics on all drums, plus triggers for the gates, one hybrid concert kit we did took up nearly 48 channels lol, big bold sounds and routed through DCAs and bass drum had its own sub cluster centre stage plus the line array,
None of the inside ones sounded different from being at the port except 2" from the beater. So outside center, outside offset, outside port hole, and 2" from the beater are the unique sounds.
Snare drum sounds good but for this demonstration for me it's overpowering the actual tone of the bass drum and because of excessive ring hard to concentrate on the tone and effects of the bass drum
How do I get that vintage kick sound wheee you don’t hear the click/pop so much, it’s sorta just a big marshmallow sound? That jazzy song with the finger snaps in Twin Peaks has a great example of this kick tone
For that style of sound you probably will want to put the bass drum mic on the front head, not inside the port hole (if it has one). The other thing to try is getting a vintage wool bass drum beater which is very soft. With a wool beater you can still put the mic in the drum but you get a much, much softer beater attack. Also, play around with how much dampening you have in the bass drum as well.
I mixed sound for 15 years. I lost count of how many drummers asked me to make their kick drum sound like a cannon when they had it tuned to sound like a card board box. Geez.. I liked the off set best but overall this kick one sounded a bit too flat (dead) to me . MHO
That's interesting! I usually add some crushed room mics to my overall drum sound to bring out some life but for this example I kept it pretty dry (just close mics) to hopefully make the results more obvious.
Get triggers and the roland module(s) my tm2 is giving little issue with two ontrigger Gen 3s and speed cobras. But some like just an interface to go into the close by computer (good idea, a 100 dollar bee link can handle a couple things for audio stuff.) including reaper and SD2/3/ezdrummer. It can easily go on the back of some cheap monitor you or your family has to give away. Put it on a stand. Mini recording device for triggers and you can watch videos like this! I am going to make a channel soon as I believe I can collab with these channels to improve ourselves. I have better advice and drum skill. He has better recording know how and equipment. I even have a buisness legally now. It is for my computer science in embedded engineering and music know how combined. So you ask for computer help or custom hardware to do a task. Then get guitar lessons and hardware support. Music hardware like... Making your own vocal booth using pvc and blankets. (with the computer thing I was talking about) I loved mine so much. But used the blankets for a nicer room with my drums and 55 inch TV. My amps.... Jam world
Well that's a Kick drum. A Bass drum is a resonant musical instrument with two resonating heads that don't have holes, and it has no blanket inside. You can compress out some extra resonance for recording if you like, but that thing in the video may as well be a pillow.
Yea. most of the time in studios it's common that you see a mic that's inside the drum as well as a large diaphragm condenser on the outside of the drum on the resonant head.
The intention is to make the blanket touch both the batter and resonant heads of the bass drum. The blanket stops most of the resonance of the drum heads when you hit it which creates a very dead, focused sound. Rather than a "boooom" you get a short "smack" sound.
@@davidhutchensbmx7890 You could probably find a Gibraltar or Mapex one for lower cost. A step up would be Pearl, Tama, Yamaha, DW. If you can, I'd spend a bit more and find one with a double chain instead of a strap.
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Gah his snare sounds good 😋
Thanks. Some people love it, some hate it!
@@kylekrysadrums it sounds great to me!!
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@@This-is-it-music I'm still splooging from the sound
Personally not a fan. Sounds like a St Anger snare.
I like a tight, snappy snare sound personally.
Holy smokes that's wild
Thanks for this. Not some drawn out review. Quick and to the point. 👍
You'd learn more in 60 seconds off this than an 30 minutes on another vid. Well done man thanks 👍
Off center is my favorite 👌
I like it centered just outside the port hole... added attack. Thanks for the video.
Porthole! Only way to go for some heavy beats! I honestly like my 2mic system, a boundary inside for the beater and a Beta52 centered outside on the reso
For heavy beats I do right in front of the reso head and then take it off and stuff a weighted blanket inside and record with mic in the same spot and it gives the most heavy tone with a clicky punch but still body
This is a great video! Thank you!
I was hoping you'd place the mic 0" from the beater; that would definitely change the sound!
Inside - middle is the sweet spot
That plus room mic plus off center for depth is my go to recording for bass drum. I'll even do 3 mics on it sometimes
What’s interesting about this is that the offset mic positions makes the pitch a lot more audible which in this case is an F. This would work really well in certain situations but only those that don’t directly clash with the pitch (e.g a piece in D Major cus of the F#)
You must have perfect pitch....it wild that you heard that
but my spectrum analyzer tells me the fundamental is about 32 Hz, which is obviously a C
I usually place it few inches from by beater. The punch and click sound is phenomenal
You want punch?
Try taping a quarter onto the head and use a hard plastic beater OR tape a second quarter onto a regular beater.
Warning, this will expose any weaknesses in your bass foot (feet) very quickly.
@@MrRezRising isn’t that bad for the drum head?
@@Dinosaurs_with_laser_guns I would say, the thing's designed to be beat to hell, BUT, placing one of those 4" bass head saving stickers where the beater hits first, THEN tape the quarter, you should be fine.
Unless you're a leadfoot that naturally puts 75% of their full body weight behind each kick of course. 🥁🔊
Awesome video. Thanks for editing them so close together to really hear the difference in each placement
Fantastic demo.
I like the sound outside the port hole the best
2" from beater sounds like a synth bass... Sick!
I really liked the Outside, Off-Set position. Sounds like two recording mics are in order.
Snare sound brings me joy love that bounce
Time to change that snare sound
I have Gretsch drums also. Got them maybe a month ago. I dont know what the difference is with these snares compared to others, but they are easy to tune up and have an incredible sound. Sounds like making popcorn, lol
It's by far the best snare drum and sound I've ever had.
I would like to add the kick drum to that list also. Deep punchy tone.
The toms sound good also.
The one im having trouble with is the 14" floor tom. I've tried every trick i know, plus I tried things from CZcams tutorials, and I just can't quite get it to sound right and flow with the others.
By itself, you can get it to sound great. Even get it low enough you dont need a bass drum.
Not sure what's going on at this point.
Maybe i need to retune everything else around it. Everything else sounds great though.
Heck, it might just be me. I've been hitting drums for almost 40 years now, lol
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yep! some people i know jsut throw the mic inside the drum resting on the internal muffling stuff, sounds dull and woolly to my ears when they do that!!
Thank you for sharing
the center and outside offset where my favorite from here
cool videos like this simple direct and well done are great I rarely comment on a video but you deserve a like 👍
Hey, thanks!
Actually like nr. 2 the most
Thank you, man, it was really helpful
AKG D112 Mike inside the drum with both heads on is my favorite!
nah two mics on all drums, plus triggers for the gates, one hybrid concert kit we did took up nearly 48 channels lol, big bold sounds and routed through DCAs and bass drum had its own sub cluster centre stage plus the line array,
Very nice, thank you
Lol the “why go” groove
Yeah! I knew I recognized it from somewhere. Pearl Jam really have some good drum beats on their songs.
Oh please don't go out on me
It's a slightly slower version of “Go" off of the Vs album
You and Dave should have a drum off man that is pretty cool. P.s thanks for the tip!
#4 for me :)
Offset outside sounds fantastic to me
I like just outside the porthole but all positions have their uses.
Outside the porthole❤
sick groove🎉
I would blend a couple of those, add in a subtle kick pad/patch to either the front of the head or behind where the beater hits.
Sound 2, 4, 5 also interesting beside 3
Outside off-set would be my guess for many John Bonham recordings.
None of the inside ones sounded different from being at the port except 2" from the beater. So outside center, outside offset, outside port hole, and 2" from the beater are the unique sounds.
Very impressive!
He got the st. Anger snare drum
Nice beat.
Sounded like one I used to play a lot! 👊😁
Sounds like Pearl Jam's "Go"
Somebody is a Dave Abbruzzese fan... 😎🤟
That’s sick
One off center and one 2" from the beater on the inside at the same time would probably be killer
Wow, I def like the first two. Once you lose the second head, it gets thin. Punchy, but thin.
I like the on the threshold of the port hole and the half way inside sound, really reminds me of Disturbed and A7X kinda
I liked the offset one
I like the “just outside the port hole” sound the most. I feel like there’s some phasey stuff happening once the microphone is inside the shell.
I liked 1, 3 and 5
#3 please :)
I preferred the second one the most.
I like position 2 and 3
2nd and 3rd are best sounding in my opinnion
Outside off-set si 🔥
I wonder if Zach Hudson (the Blue Devils’ old Drumset player) tuned that snare
It sounds so good
What a crazy good video and for a short too!
I liked #2 the best
Snare drum sounds good but for this demonstration for me it's overpowering the actual tone of the bass drum and because of excessive ring hard to concentrate on the tone and effects of the bass drum
That farthest from Port hole outside💙 boom❤️
How do I get that vintage kick sound wheee you don’t hear the click/pop so much, it’s sorta just a big marshmallow sound? That jazzy song with the finger snaps in Twin Peaks has a great example of this kick tone
For that style of sound you probably will want to put the bass drum mic on the front head, not inside the port hole (if it has one). The other thing to try is getting a vintage wool bass drum beater which is very soft. With a wool beater you can still put the mic in the drum but you get a much, much softer beater attack. Also, play around with how much dampening you have in the bass drum as well.
"go" from vs album
Nailed it!
I mixed sound for 15 years. I lost count of how many drummers asked me to make their kick drum sound like a cannon when they had it tuned to sound like a card board box. Geez.. I liked the off set best but overall this kick one sounded a bit too flat (dead) to me . MHO
That's interesting! I usually add some crushed room mics to my overall drum sound to bring out some life but for this example I kept it pretty dry (just close mics) to hopefully make the results more obvious.
2nd position is the best.
I like 3'o'clock position
why do we record the batter heads of every drum except the kick?
Gretsch... my love...
Yea...unfortunately it's only a Gretsch head. The drums themselves are actually Ludwig! Kinda sacrilegious, know...
Outside porthole is defo the only right answer
OMG is that how you do it??!! Ty
Porthole for the win
Outside the the porthole. The way it should be
What about some combinations of 2 or 3 mics?
Offset placement = space jam
oh please don’t go on me… don’t go on me now - Pearl Jam drum beat caught in the wild
Why Go!
I don't know why but the deeper it kept getting the more I laughed.
Reminds of the old days with your uncle eh?
Get triggers and the roland module(s) my tm2 is giving little issue with two ontrigger Gen 3s and speed cobras. But some like just an interface to go into the close by computer (good idea, a 100 dollar bee link can handle a couple things for audio stuff.) including reaper and SD2/3/ezdrummer. It can easily go on the back of some cheap monitor you or your family has to give away. Put it on a stand.
Mini recording device for triggers and you can watch videos like this!
I am going to make a channel soon as I believe I can collab with these channels to improve ourselves. I have better advice and drum skill. He has better recording know how and equipment.
I even have a buisness legally now. It is for my computer science in embedded engineering and music know how combined. So you ask for computer help or custom hardware to do a task. Then get guitar lessons and hardware support.
Music hardware like... Making your own vocal booth using pvc and blankets. (with the computer thing I was talking about) I loved mine so much.
But used the blankets for a nicer room with my drums and 55 inch TV. My amps.... Jam world
I don’t have a “port hole”
That’s groove tho
Are we all going to ignore that tasty ass groove?
I thought the last one would show two microphones as the kick beaters lol
Well that's a Kick drum. A Bass drum is a resonant musical instrument with two resonating heads that don't have holes, and it has no blanket inside. You can compress out some extra resonance for recording if you like, but that thing in the video may as well be a pillow.
a kick drum is a type of bass drum breh
Pearl jam GO and WHY GO
idk if id call some of them drastic, but interesting
it is different
What fabric did you used in bass drum ?
I just use two bathroom towels and I make sure they are touching both heads slightly.
Put it in side front of pedal
Add a sub kick mic to help capture the lower frequencies that aren’t picked up with regular diaphragm mics
What if the microphone is the beater
Why Go - Pearl Jam
Outside for me
So do one in and one out like the pro's and blend really
Yea. most of the time in studios it's common that you see a mic that's inside the drum as well as a large diaphragm condenser on the outside of the drum on the resonant head.
@@kylekrysadrums yeah lol im an audio engineer . LMAO .
DRASTICALLY
Is that “go” by Pearl jam?
Sure is
Very nice 👍
Speaking of Dampening, Pop filter please.
That would be funny if the last one was "outside" and we hear nothing
offset sounds the best imo
Go by Pearl Jam
Nailed it
Ima new drummer can some PLEASE tell me y u put blankets\pillow in bass drum
The intention is to make the blanket touch both the batter and resonant heads of the bass drum. The blanket stops most of the resonance of the drum heads when you hit it which creates a very dead, focused sound. Rather than a "boooom" you get a short "smack" sound.
@@kylekrysadrums thanks I appreciate it whats a good cheap double bass drum beater to get?
@@davidhutchensbmx7890 You could probably find a Gibraltar or Mapex one for lower cost. A step up would be Pearl, Tama, Yamaha, DW. If you can, I'd spend a bit more and find one with a double chain instead of a strap.
@@kylekrysadrums ight thanks appreciate it keep rocken 🤘🏻
With that said: do a tutorial where you move the dampening instead. Only beater head, in the middle, only resonant head ✌🏻🤩
Real men just use a microphone and a pedal, just hit the microphone with the beater, easy powerful tone 👌 😎