Olympiad Algebra

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  • čas přidán 10. 12. 2023
  • In this video, I solved an interesting olympiad cubic equation.

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  • @mathboy8188
    @mathboy8188 Před 5 měsíci +36

    Your presentation is damn-near perfect:
    slow clear enunciation,
    straight legible & well-spaced writing,
    good eye contact,
    not standing too long in front of your writing (barely at all in fact),
    explaining your thought process and then the math steps to work them out,
    and most of all, enthusiasm for the material!
    People who've never done it probably don't appreciate just how hard this is to do well. When I was teaching math, my mind was going a mile a minute, but almost none of it was math (which was the trivial part). It was about monitoring the issues above and more. Am I making eye contact with everyone? How's my time? Is my voice loud enough for those in the back, but not too loud? Is this explanation too high or too low? Have I offered enough high and low insights for the outliers who find the topic too easy/hard? Is an interesting tangential observation worth the time and deviation? And so on.
    If you aren't a teacher, then you _must_ become one in some capacity, as it is absolutely your calling.
    And if you are a teacher as I assume, then your students are very lucky.

  • @lucmacot5496
    @lucmacot5496 Před 5 měsíci +7

    Treat a known value as an unknown to be able to use algebraic identities: Bravo! Beautiful!

  • @luisclementeortegasegovia8603
    @luisclementeortegasegovia8603 Před 5 měsíci +8

    Professor, you have the great ability to manage the algebra beautifully, and those substitutions are a master piece!

  • @user-ow7vd4ju1s
    @user-ow7vd4ju1s Před měsícem +1

    As a follower of physics, I am/was good at math and enjoyed it a lot, but the skills/tricks I learned were directed at solving problems found in the physical world. The most interesting problems you present are not from that realm and are all fresh to me. So many new tricks to learn!

  • @apone2820
    @apone2820 Před 5 měsíci +4

    Your channel is such a hidden jewel man, I love your videos.

  • @adammohamed5256
    @adammohamed5256 Před 5 měsíci +1

    I dunno why your videos don't pop up here for more than 3 months !!
    Gr8 work! Keep it up bro.

  • @Blade.5786
    @Blade.5786 Před 5 měsíci +26

    By observation,
    x = √3
    It's easy to find the other solutions from there.

    • @dandeleanu3648
      @dandeleanu3648 Před 5 měsíci +6

      At olympiad there is't solution by observation!

    • @koenth2359
      @koenth2359 Před 5 měsíci +12

      ​​@@dandeleanu3648Why not? Observation is legitimate, as long as you prove it's correct.

    • @ppbuttocks2015
      @ppbuttocks2015 Před 5 měsíci

      so just say by observation as the proof then as the top comment says@@koenth2359

    • @isabelshurmanfeitoza6898
      @isabelshurmanfeitoza6898 Před 5 měsíci

      ​@@dandeleanu3648 se você faz os cálculos não está errado não

    • @mathboy8188
      @mathboy8188 Před 5 měsíci +1

      That's the ideal way to solve it. The question is how to proceed if you don't see that.

  • @vietdungle1237
    @vietdungle1237 Před 5 měsíci +9

    2:29 from there it's clear to see that x-sqrt(3) is a common factor. By the way, your solution is very interesting but complicated for this particular problem. That method usually is used for higher degree of x (like x^5) because cubic equations literally have a formula or usually in exam have an easy to find common factor

    • @yessinegebssi162
      @yessinegebssi162 Před měsícem

      yes he could have used the Horner's method, since sqrt of 3 is a clear solution. however, his methode is way too good , i like it .

  • @andrewjames6676
    @andrewjames6676 Před 5 měsíci +3

    You remind me of the best teacher I ever had (Physics, England, 1957).

  • @rainerzufall42
    @rainerzufall42 Před 5 měsíci +2

    One should always check claims that were made... So I put the equation into Wolfram Alpha and got:
    >> x = sqrt(3)
    >> x = 1/2 (-sqrt(3) - sqrt(3 + 4 sqrt(3)))
    >> x = 1/2 (sqrt(3 + 4 sqrt(3)) - sqrt(3))

  • @nothingbutmathproofs7150
    @nothingbutmathproofs7150 Před 5 měsíci +4

    I think that it would have been better to factor out sqrt(3) from -sqrt(3)+3. Real nice job as usual.

  • @Hrishi02005
    @Hrishi02005 Před 5 měsíci +2

    Simply when we put X=√3
    Then the equation x³-(3+√3)x+3=0 satisfied.
    So x-√3 is a factor of the above eqn
    We get x²+√3x-√3 from fx=qx.gx
    So
    X=√3, [{-√3±(√3+4√3)}/2].

  • @creature_from_Nukualofa
    @creature_from_Nukualofa Před 5 měsíci +1

    this can be solved as a quadratic where the "variable" is sqrt(3) - i .s. (1-x) (sqrt(3)^2) + x sqrt(3) + x^3 - then a= (1-x), b= x and c= x^3 - plugging this to the quadratic formula one gets the first solution fast without guessing - then this can be reduced to a normal quadratic eq. given one solution is known.
    I really like you channel and your way of explaining !!

  • @thekingtheking1431
    @thekingtheking1431 Před 25 dny

    Ty for all these videos !!! Love them 😍

  • @francaisdeuxbaguetteiii7316
    @francaisdeuxbaguetteiii7316 Před 5 měsíci +41

    Depressed cubic formula 😂

  • @atanubiswas.5098
    @atanubiswas.5098 Před 5 měsíci +2

    The question was so easy to me, but it was your presentation style which made me a fan of yours❤ Thank you sir 🥰

  • @arsessahra-yb9zb
    @arsessahra-yb9zb Před 5 měsíci +1

    با درود،یک خلاقیت در حل این مسیله به خرج دادی،بسیار سپاسگزارم

  • @allegrobas
    @allegrobas Před 5 měsíci +1

    Wow !!! Good work !!!!

  • @juliovasquezdiaz2432
    @juliovasquezdiaz2432 Před 5 měsíci +1

    Gracias. Me gustó el video
    Saludos

  • @reamartin6458
    @reamartin6458 Před 5 měsíci +1

    Top notch 👍

  • @jamesharmon4994
    @jamesharmon4994 Před 5 měsíci +1

    What an elegant solution!

  • @jacobgoldman5780
    @jacobgoldman5780 Před 5 měsíci +4

    Unfortunate that sqrt(3+4sqrt(3)) doesnt seem to simplify nicely unless I miss something obvious.

    • @emremokoko
      @emremokoko Před 5 měsíci +1

      no it doesnt, unfortunately.

  • @user-jh7pn9bo3z
    @user-jh7pn9bo3z Před 5 měsíci +2

    I plugged that in Wolfram Alpha and I get the correct answers. Make sure you've written the equation properly and everything should be fine.

  • @dalesmart9881
    @dalesmart9881 Před 4 měsíci +4

    Hay I like your videos, but I must say that the when I first saw the problem, it posed no difficulty because I was able to figure out what to do within one minute (using a different approach). I used factor theorem to determine f(root x) =0 and conclude that (x - root x) is a factor. This meant that the other factor will be quadratic, so I used coefficient comparison to determine the quadratic factor then solve using the quadratic equation. Hence all the solutions were determined.

  • @Rai_Te
    @Rai_Te Před 2 měsíci

    Very elegant solution. ... I also tried it, and saw that sqrt(3) is a solution from the beginning. So I just did a polynominal division (orignal formula / (x - sqrt(3)) which gave me the quadratic remainder.
    However, a solution where you find one answer 'by inspection' (which is just a nice way to say 'i guessed until I found something') is always inferior to a solution by formula, so kudos to you.

  • @kangsungho1752
    @kangsungho1752 Před 5 měsíci +1

    Awesome method!

  • @moonwatcher2001
    @moonwatcher2001 Před 5 měsíci +1

    Awesome, mate!

  • @rutamupadhye1828
    @rutamupadhye1828 Před 5 měsíci +1

    teacher, your channel is great

  • @Ether.21
    @Ether.21 Před 5 měsíci +1

    amazing solution

  • @sonaraghavan9454
    @sonaraghavan9454 Před 5 měsíci +1

    Awesome presentation.

    • @sonaraghavan9454
      @sonaraghavan9454 Před 5 měsíci +1

      When I first saw your problem, I applied factor theorem and figured out that cubic function becomes zero at f(√3). So for sure one root is √3. Then apply synthetic division and find the remaining two factors.

  • @ben_adel3437
    @ben_adel3437 Před 4 měsíci +1

    Thats so cool idk how but when i tried to solve it i just say that x=sqrt(3) and then just divided by x-sqrt(3) and found the other ones but this is really helpful because in most cases i can't just see it

  • @voice4voicelessKrzysiek
    @voice4voicelessKrzysiek Před 5 měsíci +1

    Nice! After distributing (3+sqrt(3))x into 3x + sqrt(3)x I got the same answer without substitution since I started seeing a way out of the problem, not without earlier reassurance from you that there is a way out, though 😁

  • @JeffreyLWhitledge
    @JeffreyLWhitledge Před 5 měsíci +3

    The HP Prime gets the same answer you did. The TI-nspire CX II CAS decided to give the decimal approximations. The Casio CG-500 gives a crazy answer that looks like the Wolfram Alpha version. Prime Newtons and HP Prime win this round.

  • @basqye9
    @basqye9 Před 5 měsíci +1

    excellent!

  • @lukaskamin755
    @lukaskamin755 Před 5 měsíci +1

    brilliant solution, I just wanted to mention that when you make that inference when the product equals zero, then one of the multipliers equals zero, while THE OTHER EXISTS (or defined). That doesn't make issues in this particular problem, but it might in other cases like irrational equation of type A(x)*sqrt(B(x))=0 (there might be more than one irrational factor)

  • @janimed9266
    @janimed9266 Před 5 měsíci +1

    Very good

  • @avalagum7957
    @avalagum7957 Před 5 měsíci +1

    The most difficult part is to know that x = sqrt(3) is a solution. Then the rest is easy: x^3 - (3+sqrt(3))x + 3 = (x - sqrt(3)) * a quadratic equation

  • @88kgs
    @88kgs Před 5 měsíci +1

    Very nice video
    The real name of quadratic formula is.....Shreedha Ahcharya formula .
    Regards 🙏

  • @kingtown9580
    @kingtown9580 Před 5 měsíci +1

    Can you make video on the theory and make a playlist so people can learn new concepts of math which they don't know

  • @butterflyeatsgrapes
    @butterflyeatsgrapes Před měsícem +1

    🦋I SMILED THROUGHOUT THE WHOLE VIDEOOO THANK U SO MUCHHHHHHH🦋

  • @BartBuzz
    @BartBuzz Před 4 měsíci +1

    Very clever solution. The first solution you showed was very non-Olympiad!

  • @user_math2023
    @user_math2023 Před 5 měsíci +1

    Super ❤❤❤❤❤❤

  • @ayan.rodrigo
    @ayan.rodrigo Před 5 měsíci +1

    Fucking FANTASTIC, my friend

  • @roger7341
    @roger7341 Před měsícem

    We know a cubic has at least one real root, and there is more than one way to skin a cat. A real value of x is around 2 so try fixed-point iteration, starting with x=2. x←∛[(3+√3)x-3] returns x=1.73205..., which is close to x=√3, the exact root. Divide the given equation by (x-√3): x^2+√3x-√3=0 yields x=[-√3±√(3+4√3)]/2

  • @kangsungho1752
    @kangsungho1752 Před 5 měsíci +1

    What an Idea!

  • @user-xw6ky8ob4l
    @user-xw6ky8ob4l Před 5 měsíci +1

    Excellent, you live on the edges of the undiscovered Mathematics . This is an enviable attribute, checked at x^1/3.This monstrosity produced by Fulkram must be rejected as a bad joke!

  • @VittorioBalbi1962
    @VittorioBalbi1962 Před 5 měsíci +1

    Brilliant thinking
    Watch out y squared is 3 not radical 3 so the solution might be even simpler

  • @NadiehFan
    @NadiehFan Před 4 měsíci +2

    Don't know what's wrong with your WolframAlpha. If I enter your equation like this:
    x^3 - (3 + sqrt(3))x + 3 = 0
    I get exactly the answers you get, not those intractable expressions you show in the video. Also, I already saw this equation earlier on other channels like this one:
    czcams.com/video/YnZzpYSIiUU/video.html
    Of course, once you hit upon the idea to write 3 as (√3)² and rewrite the equation as
    x³ − (√3)²x − √3·x + (√3)² = 0
    it is easy to see that we can do factoring by grouping to get
    x(x² − (√3)²) − √3·(x − √3) = 0
    and then we see that we can take out a factor (x − √3) since x² − (√3)² = (x − √3)(x + √3). To make this more transparent you can of course first replace √3 with a variable y to get
    x³ − y²x − yx + y² = 0
    and then do factoring by grouping to get
    x(x² − y²) − y(x − y) = 0
    where we can take out a factor (x − y) which is what you do in the video. A slightly different approach consists in rewriting
    x³ − y²x − yx + y² = 0
    as
    (1 − x)y² − xy + x³ = 0
    which we can consider as a quadratic equation ay² + by + c = 0 with a = 1 − x, b = −x, c = x³. The discriminant of this quadratic in y is D = b² − 4ac = (−x)² − 4(1 − x)x³ = x² − 4x³ + 4x⁴ = (2x² − x)² and using the quadratic formula y = (−b ± √D)/2a we therefore get
    y = (x − (2x² − x))/(2(1 − x)) ⋁ y = (x + (2x² − x))/(2(1 − x))
    which gives
    y = x ⋁ y = x²/(1 − x)
    and replacing y with √3 again this gives
    x = √3 ⋁ x²/(1 − x) = √3
    Of course, x²/(1 − x) = √3 gives x² + √3·x − √3 = 0 which is exactly the quadratic we get by factoring.

  • @v8torque932
    @v8torque932 Před 5 měsíci +1

    I don’t watch for the math I watch to see a black guy stare at me with no audio

  • @lbwmessenger-solascriptura5698
    @lbwmessenger-solascriptura5698 Před 5 měsíci +1

    i think the question was easy great fan

  • @Mohamed2023Laayoune
    @Mohamed2023Laayoune Před měsícem

    ,Plz what is the name of the method that you use to find the solution 2 and 3, who know it , he can answer

  • @cliffordabrahamonyedikachi8175

    Simply the quadratic formular were left the same way as the solution.

  • @TomCruz142
    @TomCruz142 Před 5 měsíci +1

    (x+√3) is a factor...very easy

  • @alexanderkonieczka2592
    @alexanderkonieczka2592 Před 5 měsíci +1

    when i put it in wolfram i got your same answer.... maybe a typo on entry or they fixed it?

  • @weo9473
    @weo9473 Před 5 měsíci +3

    I like your smile

  • @cluedohere
    @cluedohere Před 5 měsíci +1

    oh, i am surprised that the wolfram alpha got that answer. it's not because the answer is complicate but wrong(see the approximate value they gave).

  • @bhchoi8357
    @bhchoi8357 Před 5 měsíci +1

    Love you

  • @shaswatadutta4451
    @shaswatadutta4451 Před 5 měsíci +1

    This is a really easy problem.

  • @evbdevy352
    @evbdevy352 Před 5 měsíci +1

    You could be a great actor.

    • @PrimeNewtons
      @PrimeNewtons  Před 5 měsíci +1

      I am! The board is my stage.

    • @evbdevy352
      @evbdevy352 Před 5 měsíci

      @@PrimeNewtons Congratulations.I wish you success.Thanks a lot.

  • @BozskaCastica
    @BozskaCastica Před 5 měsíci +1

    Yeah did it before I watched the video. But I didn't do the substitution.

  • @loggerkey6905
    @loggerkey6905 Před 5 měsíci +1

    6:22 😂😂

  • @lukaskamin755
    @lukaskamin755 Před 2 měsíci

    Why you say the first factoring you mentioned doesn't work? I tried and it worked perfectly: x(x²-3)-√3(x-√3)=0, than ( x-√3)(x²+x√3-√3)=0. So x1=√3, x2,3=½(-√3±√(3+4√3))
    IMHO it's too easy for an Olympiad 😊

  • @user-nd7th3hy4l
    @user-nd7th3hy4l Před 5 měsíci +1

    X=3^0,5 et on divise pour les deux restes.

  • @subhashchandra-yo4rb
    @subhashchandra-yo4rb Před 25 dny

    You could do it without substituting √ 3 as y😊

  • @egondanemmanueltchicaya1089
    @egondanemmanueltchicaya1089 Před 5 měsíci +1

    😂😂😂😂 impressive

  • @user-nd7th3hy4l
    @user-nd7th3hy4l Před 5 měsíci +1

    Une solution unique x comprise entre -1 et 0.

  • @vaibhavsrivastva1253
    @vaibhavsrivastva1253 Před 5 měsíci +1

    I got it right.

  • @dante224real1
    @dante224real1 Před 5 měsíci +1

    D=eSnu+5 /(0-nuR)^CHin
    find intergers that fit D=N+CHi=69

  • @user-vf3vh1yk5q
    @user-vf3vh1yk5q Před 5 měsíci +1

    nice night

  • @honestadministrator
    @honestadministrator Před měsícem

    ( x - √3) ( x^2 + x √3 + √3) = 0
    x = √ 3 , ( - √3 + √ ( 3/4 - √3))
    - ( √3 + √ ( 3/4 - √3))

  • @Evgeny-2718
    @Evgeny-2718 Před 5 měsíci +2

    You have some strange Wolfram Alpha! Normal Wolfram Alpha gives a perfectly good short solution! Why are you misleading your subscribers?

    • @rainerzufall42
      @rainerzufall42 Před 5 měsíci +2

      At least two people out there thinking, that this shouldn't be too complicated for Wolfram Alpha...

    • @rainerzufall42
      @rainerzufall42 Před 5 měsíci +2

      BTW: What is this video other than guessing the root x = sqrt(3) and finding the other two roots?
      For example: x³-(3+sqrt(3))x+4=0 has two complex roots, that are ugly, although I just wrote 4 instead of 3.
      The real root is: x = -(3 + sqrt(3) + 3^(1/3) (6 - sqrt(2 (9 - 5 sqrt(3))))^(2/3))/(3^(2/3) (6 - sqrt(2 (9 - 5 sqrt(3))))^(1/3))

  • @user-nd7th3hy4l
    @user-nd7th3hy4l Před 5 měsíci +1

    Une solution unique x comprise entre -1 et 0.