Salty Water Purifies Alcohol
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You have to specify which alcohol you are talking about. The experiment you did was with isopropyl alcohol, not with ethanol! If you try this with ethanol, the salt will precipitate instead. Ethanol is more polar than isopropyl and will not separate from water thar easily.
wait is this guy right ?
@@knightning3521 yeah
What happens with methanol?
Thank you, I was about to ruin a gallon of apple wine to try and make apple jack with salt.
@@jadedandbitter You go blind instead, or you just die, if you drink too much.
I can see this being marketed as "non alcoholic, alcoholic drinks" lol
But waaaaay too salty drinks.
like sugarfree energy drinks
@@moonliteX you do know sugar doesn't provide the energy in an energy drink that is provided by the caffeine possibly the other vitamins and amino acids present but mostly the caffeine.
Contrary to popular belief sugar doesn't actually make you hyper
@@ZakkandtheJ no i'm talking about energy. as in fuel. as in carbohydrates. like the scientific definiton of "energy"
those amino acids and caffeine don't have shit of pure "energy"
thus an energy drink without energy is an oxymoron.
@@ZakkandtheJ I mean, salt also provides electrolytes so why not
This is a somewhat lesser known practice in chemistry, it's commonly used for "drying" organic solvents from any water present. Though people would normally use something like molecular sieves or anhydrous chemical salts
Thats actually not what's happening here. In the case you described the water molecules actually physically bind to the Substance you add. For example Magnesiun sulfate really likes to be in the hydrated form, and so the anhydrous form attaches the water to itself and can that way be filtered off, leaving the organic solvent behind with less water in it...
@@nilswilling That I actually understand, I guess I didn't phrase it properly 😅. What I mean is that adding salt, NaCl, helps to separate out organic solvents which are miscible in water
@@thehyperscientist1961 Ah okay, thats true of course:)
@@tripplefives1402 So? In he comment he mentioned molekular sieves, and salting out (what you describe, and what's shown in the video) is something different. With molsieves you are not seperaring layers...
@@tripplefives1402 What does that have to do with any of the comments above?? With all respect I think you're the one missing the point. Wether this is drying or not was never the question. So thanks for answering questions no one asked, and thanks for instantly trying to insult me (poor job btw) as soon as I disagree, that says everything about you...
Very helpful, thanks 👍🏻
I'm currently training as a chemical laboratory assistant, I was given the task of separating them at school and didn't know the answer
Awesome video, so cool to see the layers form! Almost missed this one because the thumbnail looks like a bad ad
I once tried to make limoncello in Ireland but I couldn't find 95% alcohol in the stores (which you can buy in grocery stores in Italy). Apparently in ROI the maximum legal alcohol is 40% or something like that. Had I known this trick....
don't feel bad you can't get Everclear or 95% grain in Ohio anymore -for decades now. just one of the many, many reasons some folks call it Smellhio.
@@harry2928 can't in pa either
@@harry2928 Still available in Oregon I bring bottles to my family in Washington every time I return for a visit. I was stoked when I moved down here and saw it was available.
@@Aztesticals Available in Oregon just have a friend send you some.
@@docE3885 dude I just get 200 proof from my university. They make it on campus for the labs using the non benzene method. So it's totally safe to drink if diluted
This is AMAZING! Thank you for sharing. I love practical insights like this.
This channel never ceases to amaze me
You know where this might have relevance is seperating oil contaminated snow, ice or water. In States where it's a concern, they use a combination of heat and gravity to try to extract oil contamination, but this salt distillation process might work even better provided sufficient salt is available.
Heat and gravity sounds like a more efficient process. You would need to use immense amounts of salt and then dispose of the saltwater as a waste product.
Yeah, I bet they hadn't thought of that.
So basically, just siphon off the top and you've got the ultimate vodka shot?
well, it is no longer called "vodka" since you seperate the water
@@_Caose moonshine
It might still taste salty, give it a try
Fun fact, you can do this much easier with Isopropyl alcohol. When I did this in college during some backyard chemistry separations, I added much less salt.
How pure is the alcohol after adding salt, and is there any salt at all in the alcohol?
Awesome channel. Thanks!!
This worked for me once with equate isopropyl alcohol but I couldn’t get it to work with Win Co isopropyl alcohol, I’m not sure why but very cool experiment
What maximum concentration is achievable with this method?
purify to what percentage? is it higher than the percentage you put in before adding the water?
Can this thechnique used to separate alchool from water instead of distilling them? (several chemical probs here, if I remember well... methanhole for example)
Great! I needed a way to sort plastic beads.
So, what does this tell me about that one friend, that swears a tiny spoon of salt saves him from a hangover? 😂
hmm just spit balling here, but alcohol dehydrates pretty heavily and eating salt adds electrolytes to the body.
The way we use "hydration" in our language is a bit annoying.
When we're thirsty we don't just want water, we want electrolytes too. And we can get those with salt water, sports drinks will always contain salt and sugar to "quench your thirst" as they say.
Not sure how this relates to hangovers, that's something to experiment with maybe? Our metabolisms are very complex.
@@Broockle well alcohol is a diuretic meaning it causes you to urinate more frequently which can lead to dehydration which is just part of the hangover. From what I’ve heard its the metabolite of alcohol, acetaldehyde, that causes some of the other symptoms of hangover. after further research i found that many of the other symptoms are associated with how quickly the alcohol is eliminated, because longer periods mean more alcohol crosses the blood-brain barrier. The source also claimed that oxidative stress is also significantly related to hangover severity. oxidative stress that occurs early in alcohol consumption is associated with reduced hangover severity, while oxidative stress in a later stage of alcohol consumption is associated with increased hangover severity.
@@Broockle It makes sense whst you say.
You can also get thirsty (or higher osmotic pressure), if you drink/ eat too much salt/ sugar.
Somehow I would never come to the idea of eating a spooful of pure salt, than rather eat something "normal". I would be too afraid of accidentally killing myself. 😅
@@Broockle when does it become too much salt? Ocean water makes me hella thirsty
My brother also would say to eat salty soft pretzels or vinegar-salt chips to prevent a hangover. Considering he ended up in AA after drunk-driving his truck off a cliff and nearly going paralyzed, I always assumed he knew what he was talking about when it came to pub lore.
I will never understand why the beads separated. How did the solution know which was which?
keeping science aside and the efforts you put to demonstrate the experiment is insane🤯
Yet another awesome video👍
"Great, now I can have my vodka extra strong" - Some Slavic person somewhere probably
What is the concentration of the alcohol and is it salty
Why do the white ones sink if they float in alcohol? Surely they should stay on top?
Why do the white & blue separate, or did I miss something?
They're likely made out of two different kinds of plastic which would make one want to go to the alcohol layer and the other want to go to the water layer
They both float on water and sink in alcohol so they come together when the liquids separate. However, the blue ones are slightly heavier than the two liquids mixed and the white ones are slightly lighter, so when shaken, they separate.
But this only works with Isopropyl or Methanol alcohol?!? (Or I'm wrong?) As far as I know, it is not possible to separate ethanol from water with the help of salt.
I mention this because the video thumbnail shows drinks that contain ethanol...
afaik this only works on isopropyl alcohol .. ethanol or methanol cannot be separated this way.
Salting out ethanol and methanol can be done, but not with NaCl. K2CO3 should work.
@@user255 wow really? have you done it?
@@PepekBezlepek Some chemistry papers mention it. I have not done it personally.
so does this mean you can turn 70% into 91%?
good question
Now I can turn E-85 into hooch in two steps.
That's actually much easier, though much less safe. Just add water.
Sir, I still feel I don't get 'why the beads act like this? '
Would you explain please? 🙏
blue dye vs no dye makes the blue heavier thus they ever so slightly place themselves on water while the white place under alcohol.
The blue and white beads have different density.
maybe it's helpful to put numbers on it. remember that things float in a liquid that is denser than they are.
let's say that, before mixing, the salt water solution is 120% the density of water, and the alcohol is 80%. If they are combined in equal volumes then the mixture has a combined density of 100% the density of water
Lets say the white beads have a density of 90% and the blue bead of 110%. When the liquid is mixed then the white bead will float to the top as (90 is less than 100), and blue will sink (110 is more than 100)
as the alcohol and salt water separate, the salt water at the bottom becomes 120% and the alcohol at the top 80%. The white 90% beads sink in the 80% solution and the blue 110% beads float int the 120% solution
One thing that made this a bit confusing was that the guy in the video descried the white beads as floating in alcohol - i guess he meant sinking in alcohol (but floating in the alcohol/salt mixture) otherwise it doesn't quite make sense :)
Fascinating still don't get why the white and blue beads separate are they they of the same kind or different?
They are different, he said it in the video. White beads float in water, the blue ones sink.
The two colours are also different densities. They're both lighter than water and heavier than alcohol. But the white ones are lighter than the water-alcohol mixture and the blue ones are heavier than the mixture.
Hwo pute is the alcohol after this process?
My liver also purifies alcohol.
Dude! I think it acts the other way around.
RIP this guy liver
One of the few time my chemistry knowledge comes in handy
Good demo of liquid-liquid extraction.
This channel is too cool.
Beautiful!
whats the difference between those beads?
I now have prohibition hax
how potent can this make alcohol?
You can't do this with alcohol meant for drinking. You have to use something like rubbing alcohol that has been distilled to the point of purity. You might get a few more proof out of a beer if you added a crap ton of salt to it but it really wouldn't be worth it.
If you want a product for consumption, don't use rubbing alcohol. It has orally-toxic additives which are difficult to separate, mixed in with it. It's "denatured".
Is the alcohol clean or does it have some salt dissolved in it?
There will be some salt.
@@user255 bloody Mary?
@@religionisapoison2413 Hah, yeah I guess!
Traces, I think.
Alcohol as such does not dissolve salt, but even the purest alcohol has some water in it, which does.
@@olmostgudinaf8100 Salt does dissolve in ethanol in ~0.65 g/L. However I just tried this with 40% ethanol and NaCl and it does not work at all. Some other salt is needed to salt out ethanol. Maybe CaCl2 would work.
Thats very fascinating thank you
you didint even watch the video
@@theodoresarras7983 you can see them or something?
I saw that because he upload the comment 36 seconds after the video was uploaded
@@theodoresarras7983 ohhhh yea that makes sense
@@HSdirectioner5 is that irony?
Is it drinkable tho? How much NaCl dissolves in the alcohol?
I see... so if I'm hungover I should drink salt water!
same if you go running, get a sports drink, it has salt in it. Not the caffeinated energy drinks tho, those will do the opposite.
is this similar to when a hypertonic solution draws out the water of something?
I knew how it was going to work but it's still cool to watch.
Noticed this while cleaning my bong lmaoooo
Heyy, steve mould did a video on this too!
You guys should check it out, worth the watch
Just what i needed
If we separated them from each other could it be put in a fuel tank.. sorry a gas tank of a vehicle and run it?
So I can do this to vodka and decant the more concentrated stuff on the top?
Recipe for hangover
I wonder if this can be used to reduce the energy needed in the distillation process - especially if the salt could be reused
Anhydrous ethanol (100% alcohol) is made with a similar method using molecular sieves. You actually can't get 100% via distillation alone. I assume these could be used to lower energy usage in commercial/industrial alcohol production however it would be much more expensive to purchase and dry these sieves for reuse and also take much longer. The 95-97% achievable from distillation is easily enough for any practical uses.
The salt could be reused but it’d have to be dried first. The energy needed for drying would cancel out most of the savings you could get from avoiding distillation. Maybe all the saving or maybe it’d even cost more to use the salt method.
@@Ryush806 you could use solar evaporation to cheapen the salt recovery process. It may be slower, but it will not make a dent in your power bills.
@@neirenoir depends if you’re worried about it being food safe or not. Gonna have random unsafe things getting into it out in the open for solar evaporation. If it’s an industrial environment worried about cost, you’d have to have so much salt in various levels of dryness to keep the process running that it’d wash out your savings due to working capital and the interest expense that entails. If you aren’t worried about it being food safe and are doing it as random batches or just personal use, sure maybe just letting it dry in the sun might work.
PS I’m a chemical engineer so I default to looking at these things from an industrial and continuous perspective.
@@arya6085 Nope, I know how to get it to 98.65 and I know a guy died recently who had contracts with nascar to not tell anyone how it's done. Yes, the world has been tricked, look at nascar for the truth. You can get it to 99.9999 through vacuum distillation. I said his name they would swallow air and run because they kept it this secret this long. But my guess is a few kids with a know-how of computers could get in and release this truth to the world.
After it sepreates is tue alcohol salty?
So, what's the composition either side of the phase boundary? You're gonna have salt, water and alcohol on either side, but what are the concentrations?
You need a Mcabe Thiele diagram
How pure can you get the alcohol this way?
So, how does the alcohol *taste* after this?
AWESOME!
Cool!
Yeah!
does this work on ipa as well? Like making 70% into 99%?
*7%
probably the best thing you can do for an ipa, get rid of the disgusting shit and just do some shots.
IPA as in isopropyl alcohol..... not that hipster crap
it works even better - isopropyl alcohol is less miscible with water
Great application!!!!
Does this work with rubbing alcohol?
Yes. However, it will only separate the rubbing alcohol out, and will not produce drinkable ethanol (which is a different kind of alcohol).
@@he-man4076 bruh alcohol is overrated unless you Molotov it or something. It is pretty good as a cleaning agent.
Wait can I do this to distill without a license???
Alcohol as in ethanol?
This was hella cool. Definitely not to be missed-able…
If people don't stop using the term hella I'm going to puke!
This is why you add salt to alcohol for cleaning a bong.
Really clever 🙂
Stranger things background score..
Pirates: aye
How might this work on
A corn liquor mash ?
Fun fact, this is how prisoners get the alcohol out of hand sanitizer
Wow the real Lazlow from V Rock!
Joke's on them. It's denatured with small but significant amounts of methanol or other substance, just enough to make it toxic for consumption but safe for topical use.
@@Qui-9 Not really, some sanitizers still use methanol but most moved to water soluble poisons that will be separated out with salt.
@ Qui9 in Our hand sanitizer maybe. Prison stuff is often the cheapest form possible.
The chicken is glued together
I thought they denature alcohol by adding something like denatonium benzoate (the most bitter chemical known). I would think even separating the alcohol with this method would leave enough DB in the alcohol layer to make it completely undrinkable.
Is it PURE alcohol on top ?
Like if (just an example) we put enough salt in some cheap medical solutions or house cleaning etc. that are highly concentrated in alcohol, we can get pure alcohol that we could get and put in some drinks ? Because that could be dangerous if some teens watch this video and try it and get poisoned :/
Its almost pure, nacl disolves with 360 g/L in water and 0.65 g/L in ethanol so we are definatly going to try to make 100% alcohol and drink it
@@douwekesting It wont be completely dry ethanol and thus there is also more salt in it.
It worked
@@douwekesting It worked on the video, because he used isopropanol. With ethanol and NaCl it does not work.
I got it pure enough to like 90 to 95 percent and it indeed did not taste very good. It did get us drunk with ease though. High percentage alcohol never tastes good anyway.
Is this like when you add salt to sanitizer to make the gel separate, as in jail hooch?
Yes it takes the alcohol in the sanitizer out of solution to get "jail hooch"
@@Ryanrulesok cool tip
@@Ryanrulesok I will share with my inmates
It this better then running aftershave lotion through a piece of burnt toast?
Common ion effect ???
So this is drinkable?
Anything is drinkable if you're brave enough.
Would there be any salt in the alcohol?
Yes. Also water. And alcohol in the brine.
Is the alcohol salty though?
For those days when you want to hit your favorite alcoholic drink before sobering up later on.
This is really cool
Non alcoholic salt water alcoholized
wow l love it, very interesting
Can I use this trick to refine cheap vodka?
This will really bring my prison hooch business to the next level, thanks!
Here's a novel idea, just go buy some alcohol.
Random beads?
It would work better if you dry the salt in a oven, you would need a little less salt
Really interesting,and useful,thanks!
But what are those blue and white tiny things?
Plastic beads with just the right density. The blue ones are slightly heavier than the white ones.
@@olmostgudinaf8100 thanks
... then u burn de alcohol, use the flame to boil the water to get back ur salt. Excellent.
Love de channel lad
well that's enough Action for today 🙃
Skimming from the top to make drinks that are even more alcoholic
so if I add bunch of salt into vodka will it make it stronger?
If it phase-separates, sure, the top phase will be stronger than the original vodka. However, there will be salt in that phase too, and not all the alcohol will be in tbat phase.
Very neat
Hrmmmm
Clear high proof rum separated using filtered and reduced sea water?
Could be really gross, but worth a test
Wait maybe I'm dumb...he said "the white ones float in alcohol and the blue ones float in water", so why does the white beads sink to the middle when the mixture separates? Isn't the top layer alcohol and bottom layer water?
I think he was a little imprecise in the explanation. My understanding is that both the blue and white beads are heavier than alcohol but lighter than water. However, when they are vigorously mixed, the water-alcohol mixture is at an intermediate density. The white beads are lighter than that mixture and the blue beads are heavier, so initially the white beads float and the blue ones sink. As the alcohol and water separate however, the top layer becomes less dense and the bottom layer becomes more dense, which pushes the beads to the center.
@@iankrasnow5383 Ah that makes sense. Thanks!
This is how inmates in prison get alcohol from hand sanitizer. I doubt it settles the other contaminates (fragrances and other Ingredients) but people will drink it anyways. Crazy lol.
Magnificent
Its awesome
Very cool
Yoo wtf I bought a distiller keg, didn't know I just needed salt
Does not work on ethanol.
This could be one for @Tech Ingredients