Paramedics Debunk 12 First Aid Myths | Debunked
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- Paramedics Randy Li and Lorena Concepcion-Martinez debunk 12 myths about first aid. They talk about how to properly perform CPR, different choking protocols, and the best way to clean a wound. They also explain that sleeping after a concussion isn't dangerous - in fact, the myth comes from the misconception that sleeping after a concussion can lead to a coma.
Concepcion-Martinez has been a paramedic in New York City for the past 19 years.
Li has been a paramedic in New York City for the past 11 years. He also has a CZcams channel called RescueRandy, where he covers all things related to emergency medical services. You can watch his videos here: / rescuerandy
Timecodes:
00:00 Intro
00:38 If someone gets a concussion, keep them awake
01:25 You should put something into the mouth of someone having a seizure
02:44 Slap a choking person on the back
04:37 Always suck the venom out of a snakebite
05:52 CPR requires mouth-to-mouth
07:13 After getting stabbed, take out the sharp object from the body
07:48 You have to be medically trained to use a defibrillator
09:04 Put butter on a burn to heal it
09:34 If you get frostbite on your hands, rub them together to warm them up
10:35 You should clean your wounds with rubbing alcohol
11:29 Cardiac arrest and a heart attack are the same thing
12:09 If you witness a drug overdose, put the person in the shower or bath
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Paramedics Debunk 12 First Aid Myths | Debunked - Věda a technologie
“Don’t pull out the knife”
*Slowly puts knife back in*
sometimes people do this. theyre pull the object out, then think 'wait i was supposed to leave it in' then they 'put it back'. buddy now you have two stab wounds lol
That happened in the Netflix movie Murder Mystery
Whenever I stabbed myself my first instinct was “Oh no I should leave this in” and I yanked it out
@@spectralan0maly I heard a new paramedic did this and lost his career for it.
A haha ha ha ha
I thought it was common knowledge not to move objects that have stabbed somone.
Yes, but you need to emphasize. I doubt that in the heat of the moment you would think about leaving it there instead of pulling it out and applying pressure with a clean towel for example.
As did I, I was always under the impression that this was pretty widespread
I grew up on a horse farm and our stallion impaled himself on a broken fence board. We left it in until the veterinarian got there and she didn’t know where it went, so when she removed it we didn’t know if he would survive. Luckily, it stayed on the outside of his rib cage, went under his leg and stopped before it perforated his skin on the back side of his front left leg. It was in there a good 18 inches. That is a lesson you never forget.
Rambo taught most boomers to remove bullets and burn the wound, so...
It is. Several of these so called "myths" no one actually believes.
I told a friend about that we were taught "Stayin' alive" for CPR in my first aid class, and they, who was the nurse in charge of the crisis protocol of our hospital, told me that they had been taught "Another one bites the dust". A little bit of macabre humour for you all
877 Cash Now ad jingle works as well
I've always heard it's "Another one bites the dust" as well. Mostly from ER staff if that makes any difference.
Or cpr by cupcakke
Multiple nurses told you that?
Talk about dark humor
Being a seasoned medic myself, the funniest overdose treatment I'm ever seen was a guy's friends shoving ice cubes up his ass before calling 911! I'll give them an A for effort and an A+ for creativity!
Those are REALLY good friends...
Woah 🤣🤣🤣
Weit do this actually work ?
Ice cubes, hmm....that's one cool ass treatment :-/
Holy crap. Thank you for that laugh.
I once choked completely when I was in high school. Couldn't get any air in or out. Fortunately, my brother's friend was right there, and he'd learned the Heimlich maneuver some years ago. He executed it perfectly. I was left badly shaken and bruised, but I was alive. He received an award for his actions, which he very well deserved.
You will enjoy this video then! watch?v=NWC5WWK7zI0 Notice how few people realise what is happening.
I just posted my choking story 😊 My Daughter jumped over the table at a Restaurant and had me in the Heimlich! She’s a lot bigger than me ( She’s 6’ and a Professional Athlete, I’m a 5’2” 110lb Grandma lol)
I was pretty shaken and bruised too! Like you I just stopped breathing! No coughing. I was laughing when I took a bite of food! Oops!
I’m glad you were ok too!!
Let’s you and I chew our food more slowly lol
Black slaps work if you turn the person upside first FYI
@@matthew8417 back slaps can lodge the food in place, you never do back slaps on an adult who is coughing. If it's a baby u can turn them upside down
@@matthew8417 never slap someone on the back, quit spreading the shit they dispelled in the video 🤦♂️
With the drug overdose thing: remember that medics are not cops!! they dont want to get you ib trouble, theyre not going to 'tell on you'. all they want to do is save your life, so please be honest about what and how much you took if youre having an overdose.
This is true. The problem I have is that a majority of the Overdose calls are not for people with a prescription. It is people who are running away from something in their life and think that self medication usually with a substance that little or no medical value for themselves. This will sound calous and your right but if you choose to take something without medical value and you OD on it I'm inclined to leave you to your poor choice.
@@nickm9102 You're right; that did sound callous, especially so because you recognized and mentioned WHY people take substances (temporary escape from feelings of powerlessness/stress, often but not always caused by poverty) and appear to empathize with that but then still conclude that you would leave another human being to die.
I don't know what made you decide to broadcast to the world that you're a pos, but thanks for the notice.
@@Caffeinated-Bladesmith it is interesting how you believe that it is society's job to fix other people's poor life choices. Let's use a different example if someone intentionally takes their pay check for the week and spends it entirely on scratch off lottery tickets knowing that they need to use that money to buy food how is it my responsibility to make sure they don't starve? The first time sure help them out they made a poor choice and learned a lesson. But if this is week five, the lesson was taught a month ago. If someone continues to support you then it is no longer help it is enabling. Now lets take that back to the original example. You take something that is physically harmful to yourself ok get the narcan or whatever it is called and now you have been taught a lesson. But in senarios where the EMT is responding to Frank's weekly OD, then the EMT becomes the enabler as they allow Frank to continue his poor choices rather than face what the problem is. If you have a problem with the facts of my view then get over yourself because until YOU are the one being taught that lesson your opinion means nothing. If you are an addict someone giving you a way to continue your addiction isn't helping it is being the problem. Your continued pride to help people just became that Addict's problem.
@@nickm9102 I did not say a word about responsibility; you did, so I could ignore this entire thing. However:
Lottery tickets would not have so much appeal if the basics needs of all people were met, nor would starvation or homelessness be a constant threat. Escapist behavior would plummet if we built societies that were actually comfortable and pleasant to live in.
Narcan prevents an overdose, keeping someone from dying in the moment. Claiming it enables addiction (what?) is like saying seatbelts enable accidents. I would ask what your preferred method of treatment is but you've already admitted it is death, so we're done here. If refusing life-saving treatment is something you advocate then there isn't much I have to say to you.
@@Caffeinated-Bladesmith your right you didn't say a word on responsibility. You ignored the responsibility of the person taking the substance. As far as you seatbelt comparison, you are saying the purpose of a seat belt is to allow a person to intentionally try to hit another vehicle. If you want to use tha as the example then yes take away their seatbelt. You argument is to give them another vehicle and try again. Why would someone want to contribute to a problem?
There are times when the best action does not mirror the the best emotional action.
So how do you propose to create a society where people don't try to escape it? I don't want to work and I enjoy my job. How many activists can exist in a society if they are not willing to also be the farmer, construction worker, or engineer? And while there are plenty who want to tell people what to do and how to think these people should not have police power any political authority. So please tell me how you make a society that can support 7 billion people that allows for everyone to do what they want to prevent escapism AND produces the resources thst those 7billion people need to live on. Humanity has tried to find it for thousands of years but I'm sure you have the solution.
Their explanations are awesome, especially the snake bite explanation with the food coloring in water!
I could watch these people give lectures on all things first aid. Great duo! Easy to listen to and retain information.
These are the lessons that should be absolutely mandatory in schools.
in the UK we have to learn about kings, wars, parliament and so on. but first aid is not on the curriculum as part of biology. seems silly to me.
It is in my country. That's why i already knew all these mthys are just that.
They were 30 years ago.
It was in my high school. CPR/AED was also a requirement
We needed to learn this in 5th grade, and also relearn and pass an exam by the Red Cross when learning to drive. It’s actually mandatory to my knowledge in all of the EU countries when learning to drive.
At a first aid recertification class I took a few years ago, someone actually asked:" If someone had pulled the knife out of a stab wound,do you put it back?"
Our instructor was temporarily speechless.
i witnessed the exact same scenario from a fellow student, and our professor just couldn't hold it and laughed
Would they?? I want the answer lmao
@@veronikakiss3754 well once the knife is out, it's not advised to put it back in, because it could further damage you, even though it acts as a plug. You must simply apply as much pressure as you can with bandages, and when these get soaked with blood, apply more bandages on top of them and continue the procedure until you get professional help to close the wound. The soaked bandages work as a means to measure the blood lost.
To be fair it’s a legitimate question. Pulling a knife out seems like common sense until you’re told why you shouldn’t. So maybe they wanted to know if it would be more harmful/ life threatening to leave the wound open or slide it back in.
Don't laugh at them. Educate them.
You folks are really the unsung heroes. You save more lives than most doctors and only get paid a fraction of that. Thank you for your work.
Paramedics I know are pretty jaded. Thankless job unfortunately in many places
I've used rubbing alcohol to clean a burn I got while welding. Yeah, it hurt like absolute Hell, _but_ it did definitely clean up the wound and the drying effect let me wrap it in gauze without worrying about it sticking. Not too bad if you have a high pain tolerance.
If it works as a hand sanitizer it will work to help sanitize wounds. Soap and water clean well but soap doesn’t kill germs. I also follow up with iodine and or antibiotic cream. Iodine continues to kill as long as the brown stain is visible.
I've had to clean open wounds a lot and I'd never use isopropyl rubbing alcohol. It hurts like getting clubbed with a meat tenderizer!! Ethyl alcohol (as in tincture of iodine) hurts less, and peroxide much less than that. Note that if you have a wound that needs debriding (like road rash), it won't heal til you soak it in peroxide, which is a beautiful debriding agent.
@@OnTheRiver66 well, a lot of soap actually DOES kill germs. It’ll kill most single-celled organisms and viruses too. The same chemical mechanism that gets grease off your hands will tear apart the membranes of bacteria, viruses, etc. making it impossible for them to survive. Whatever the soap’s active ingredient is, one end of that molecule sticks to the exterior of the membrane, while the other end sticks to water. Like a magnet sticking to iron nails. Then the water keeps flowing, and pulls part of the membrane with it via the soap. Like picking up one iron nail and taking several with because of the magnet.
@@skylark7921 That is great to know. I knew it would wash micro organisms away, but never knew it actually killed them unless it had special additives, like soaps for acne.
@@OnTheRiver66 yeah, I learned about it in my AP Biology class when Covid started (my teacher liked to include little tidbit lessons that were relevant to current events) and thought it was cool. You have to have the soap on there for at least 20 seconds to get the most out of it, and a little scrubbing helps to really increase that tearing action. So a quick rinse would probably leave some germs in the wound, enough to cause an infection - you’d have to be sure to wash the wound properly if you were cleaning it with soap and water
“The only time in this world you want to be completely honest is when the paramedics ask, 'What did you take?'”
-Berta, to Alan. Two and a half men
Yup... You lying will just increases the risk of you really dying on the spot
@@yachishairclips2250 Plus whatever is said between the patient and us is confidential. You can be doing coke, and we wont tell. It falls under HIPPA. If we violate HIPPA that's a 10k fine for every person that knows, bot one fine but cumulative and we lose our licsense.
Only thing we are legally bound to report is domestic abuse, rape, and obvious neglect.
@@VengefulMaverick That's very reassuring. I've never taken drugs but it's good to know. They don't say as much but, I should think if you lie about the drug you took and the paramedics administer the wrong anti-dote/follow the wrong protocol, that could cause even more trouble. Is that right?
@@MihirK007 possibly autocorrect. Or just them being a little stupid. Nobody said you had to spell in order to be a healthcare professional.
@@Santisima_Trinidad Why not both? But in reality I misspelt it by accident.
But I protest one thing. You do need good memorization, and critical thinking or you wont get far in this line of work.
"Another One Bites the Dust" has the same rhythm as "Staying Alive". But I don't recommend singing it out loud while performing CPR.
Also, “Let The Bodies Hit The Floor”
That was my best laugh this month.
😂
🤣
In the UK thre is a nursery ryhme 'Nellie The Elephant Packed Her Trunk' that also has the same rhythm. And that is used to teach St. Johns ambulance cadets.
There was also a national tv ad campaign for CPR that used Stayin' Alive.
I did a British Red Cross course, and they recommended using the Heimlich manoeuvre as the last resort. Apparently it is possible to rupture the spleen, causing internal bleeding/death. Instead they said to lean the patient forward (So the torso is pointing down - to prevent gravity pulling the object further down) and then giving hard back slaps. If this doesn't clear it, THEN try the Heimlich.
THIS,
currently a paramedic student and this is the best comment I’ve read
absolutely back slaps are effective but heimlich is more effective, unfortunately it is also more damaging and proper heimlich technique has the possibility to do some serious damage,
5 hard back slaps, then heimlich if those don’t work
@@jenjo0o it’s been shown to be equally effective alternating between any two of the three techniques. And because back blows are less invasive, may as well start with those.
@Matthew yeah and in the video they even admitted American Red Cross recommends back blows. I don’t get the point of this. Sigh.
@@connorokeefe269 it's literally in the first aid training(back blows). Also, why do they clean injection site with alcohol swab? It kills germs!Dumb video.
@@connorokeefe269 because AHA is the “gold standard” so to say. I’ve never had back thrust work. Been a medic 6 years.
Schools really should be teaching us this, even if it was for a short period of time. It is super beneficial knowledge to know these things than to just assume and believe in inaccurate treatments. I’m thankful for these videos because I learned a lot!
It's part of your drivers license here, well except the sucking or not sucking out snake venom. We don't have any Snakes to worry about.
But well, the drivers license is a lot more complicated in general over here in Germany and a much bigger deal.
No. These should be drilled as solidly as math, reading and spelling. This should be in the core of every world citizen's life skills, along with cooking, cleaning and basic civics.
My cat was choking once on a piece of sausage he found, did the heimlich maneuver, he was instantly fine. He ate that piece of sausage anyways XD
Cat's gonna cat. 🐱
That sausage gotta to be damn good to die for
imagine if he chokes again XD
Firstly, restrain your cat. Choking cats of all ages will struggle, potentially causing harm to themselves and to you as they will thrash around and bite in their panic. If the object is a cable, string or other item wrapped around the neck, carefully use a pair of scissors to cut it.
If they are choking on something they’ve swallowed open the mouth and look inside. An object in the mouth such as a stick or piece of bone may be able to be retrieved with a large pair of tweezers, or broken in half to release the pressure. If a solid object is lodged at the back of the throat (e.g. rawhide), do not push at it with your fingers as you may lodge it deeper. Do not stick your fingers down the throat of your cat if no object can be seen, as this may cause damage to the delicate tissues at the back of the throat.
Heimlich manoeuvre in cats
If this doesn’t work, you need to get your cat to a vet ASAP. While in the car, if the cat cannot breathe, you can try a variation of the Heimlich manoeuvre. Only try this if your cat is collapsed and cannot breathe as it can cause damage to the chest, and your cat will need to be checked afterwards by a vet. In human medicine, for example, anyone receiving the Heimlich manoeuvre should be checked by a doctor to make sure that no ribs have been broken. If a second person is not available during the car journey, it’s more important to drive quickly and safely to the vet.
Heimlich manoeuvre steps:
Lay your cat on their side.
Hold your cat’s back against your stomach (head up, paws down), and, with one hand, find the soft hollow under the ribs (your closed fist should fit into this spot).
Using the hand on your cat’s stomach, pull up and in two or three times, toward your own tummy, using a sharp thrusting motion.
Check the mouth for foreign objects.
If this doesn’t work and your cat loses their pulse, begin CPR at approximately 120 chest compressions per minute and continue these until at the veterinary practice.
In most cases, getting rid of the choking obstruction will allow the cat to breathe again. However, a trip to the vet is essential regardless of whether the item has been dislodged or not as there may be damage to the inside of the mouth or throat once the object is removed.
Lmao that's the most cat thing I've ever read 😆
It is interesting how many of these "myths" were not myths at all, but outdated techniques. I graduated EMT-B in 2009, its shocking how much has changed since then! I like to stay updated, even though I am not in the medical field anymore- you never know when you'll need it!
I mean that's like saying that gay therapy is outdated and not a myth because they don't do it anymore. It's still a thing, it's just not the best you can do. That's all
I graduated recently as an EMT-B recently but at least here in Mexico in order to keep your license you have to pass an exam every 4 years. I work with the red cross and they are always having classes for all the EMTs and paramedics in order to be updated. And is a huge plus as doesn't matter what generation your partner graduated, he knows the same procedures you know and how to do them so makes work a lot easier and Homogeneous
@@keencolios591 Perhaps dial it down with the Europe thing. I am from a country in Europe, and many years ago when I was shown CPR, I was never told to do mouth to mouth.
@@miyounova which is weird to me. People think mouth to mouth is weird or outdated, which it isn’t. It’s just not required in AMERICA under the AHA’s 2020 and 2015 CPR/ECC and ILCOR guidelines. It’s still useful, and works if you got a CPR shield or CPR Mask, which negates like 95% of the reason people don’t start mouth to mouth, which is literally because it’s mouth to mouth contact. I know in most areas in the US, rescue breathing is still needed for children because they’re very oxygen dependent compared to adults and are more likely to have oxygen related emergencies than adults (at least according to where I got my first aid from). It’s still a useful skill, and oxygen in the blood doesn’t last that long before it goes into the levels defined and set out for hypoxemia, so hands only CPR isn’t your long term solution if you want to give the BEST quality CPR. Way we see it though, as long as cardiac compressions are being done, you’re giving them a chance at life.
even this one has what may be an outdated technique. in many countries, health organisations no longer recommend the average citizien to use the heimlich maneuver. we're supposed to do 90 degree bent down spine strike. because they have been shown to be just as effective as the heimlich, and the average person does not perform the heimlich correctly and causes substantial bones and organ damage. it's supposed to be a last resort. but i guess the US still recommends it.
As a seizure sufferer,, once safe the best thing you can do is anything that makes Mr feel less embarrassed. It's pretty hard to explain how traumatic it can be.
Its traumatic to view too.
@@justayoutuber1906 yeah, can’t imagine what’s like for the actual victim though
@@justayoutuber1906 nobody said otherwise. Putting that as a reply here is obnoxious.
@@justayoutuber1906 Did you really just type this and think Yea I'm gonna post this comment
@@justayoutuber1906 Epileptic here. Watched my cat have seizures when she was in pawspice. It was disconcerting the first time because it was like "oh, is this what others see?" Then it was like, ok. Here we go.
I've gone through many CPR classes and my favorite song to song is "another one bites the dust". It was taught to me by my favorite CPR teacher and it works every time 👍
I've been the one doing the compressions and every saved life has the same song that saved them 😉
These folks (EMS, paramedics) deserve to be paid a lot better than most of them are currently.
In my country, most of them are unpaid volunteers (and being abused) 💔
What I find sad (or funny, depending on how you look at it) about your comment is that it applies to the US, which is something I thought/believe couldn't be the case in a well-developed first-world country.
In Canada they make low 6 to high 5 after 10 years of experience. I would also assume it works similarly in the US aswell.
@@teedr6149 in Germany we only get 2,500-3k. Which is really sad
@@k31than it's not just the US, stop assuming everything bad = America. Here in the UK paramedics earn pretty much and sometimes lower than minimum wage
My son took a 2 inch catfish spine through the wrist, and my sister-in-law, an RN, wouldn't let anyone remove it. The hospital was an hour away. The doctor in the ER removed the spine, and blood spurted everywhere. The spine had cut the artery, but was blocking it. No big deal in the ER, but he would have bled out and died if we'd removed it back at camp.
Yep, you got to witness first-hand why it’s a stupid idea to try and remove an object that’s imbedded in someone on your own (obviously if it’s something small like a splinter or a sewing needle you’re good).
Working in EMS I tell my patients to never use rubbing alcohol to clean a wound but then when I get a laceration or abrasion I pour it on like there’s no tomorrow lmaoooo
Idk it just seems like the easy way to do it. It burns for a split second but it kills the bad germs right? After that I just slap on some neosporin and a bandaid on it.
Why do you use it but tell your patients not to? That’s hypocrisy but why
@@atlanticatmosphere6695 because I’m stubborn. But it’s also my job to educate patients about proper wound care.
@@FalseF4CZ careful with Neosporin! Lots of stuff in there that commonly causes contact dermatitis & you can become allergic to it over time. Derms tend to warn against using it. I think Vaseline or CeraVe healing ointment are considered great alternatives but don't quote me
@@ameliamelendez1574 I just looked into this and I did not know that! It's extremely interesting how some can actually be allergic to some of the contents in Neosporin. I think I'm okay for now to continue using it but I will probably buy Vaseline instead from now on anyways just to be on the safe side.
I used to have classmate in a boarding school in Germany who was epileptic! (I did not know,) We had double-deck bunkbeds, six of us in one room. He bunked in the bed above mine. So, one night I was awakened by the whole bed shaking violently. I don't like my sleep interrupted so I rudely yelled at he guy to knock it off, when the other student jumped out of bed and just made sure he didn't fall out of bed. The next morning everything was explained to me and from then on I knew better.
This happened in the class room too; he knew when this seizure was coming on, so he just simply stood up and headed for the door. His best friend followed him to be with him until it passed.
In Australia, the recommended first aid for snake bite is to lay the patient down, keep them calm, apply a compression bandage along the whole limb (not a tourniquet) firmly as you would a sprain, splint it, and then get help. Don't wash the wound. The venom on the skin is used to identify the snake. You can buy special snake bite bandages. They are extra wide and long and have markings on them to indicate the correct amount of compression.
Living in Australia sounds mortifying
Correct, though doctors no longer need to know the snake type as most anti-venoms cover the majority of snakes.
Yes! We have different snakes so the first aid is almost the opposite! Slow their heart rate (calm them) and avoid them moving. But perhaps most importantly- don’t be an idiot and both get bitten!
what's the reason for covering the whole limb?
@@andreaspfeifer312 it’s to restrict the lymphatic and blood flow through consistent pressure across the whole area of the limb. Very different to a tourniquet which is not at all recommended. The restricted flow slows the time the venom can circulate to the heart, lungs and other vital organs.
This is helpful to remember for choking (especially for children):
Loud and Red? Let them go ahead (encourage them to keep coughing)
Quiet and Blue? They need help from you
Good to know. Thanks!
..Stiff and Purple? Not much you can do
@@jarls5890 Hey, that doesn’t rhyme!
@@jarls5890 sorry, Myrtle…? Maybe? 🤔
If someone is blue you're too late. Cyanosis is not instantaneous and will take some time. It will first show up in the lips and fingertips though.
Someone saved my life with the Heimlich maneuver. We were having dinner and something stuck in my throat and I couldn't even cough, my windpipe was completely blocked. The host was also a waiter and he did the maneuver 3 times and finally the tiny piece of food flew out and I could breathe. Since then I learned you can use a chair back to do the Heimlich on yourself. Thank you for all this good info!!
9 more tips for chest compressions!! (from an Australian advanced care paramedic)
1. Bad CPR is still better than no CPR. If u r scared about not doing a good job, don’t worry, any CPR is more effective than no CPR.
2. Don’t b afraid to go deep. Yea it feels invasive but really u should be aiming to compress a third of the depth of the chest, or as these guys said, 2 inches.
3. Don’t bend ur elbows how they do in movies!! Try and keep ur elbows locked and have the momentum/motion come from ur upper body and core
4. More songs u can use for CPR (aside from stayin alive) are baby shark and CPR by cupcakee (look it’s not everyones cuppa tea but it works okay)
5. U should start CPR as soon as u see someone who’s not breathing and doesn’t have a pulse, always check if they have a pulse first either on their neck (jugular), wrist (radial), elbow (brachial), etc.
6. For kids, use one hand on their chest instead of 2, and for babies (god forbid u ever have to do CPR on a baby), we use 2 fingers (middle and pointer), or both thumbs while holding them around their body.
7. If u ever get lost on where to do the chest compressions- just go between the nipples.
8. Don’t stop until they have a pulse, or paramedics arrive.
9. If there is a defibrillator/AED around, use it!! they r super simple and it will tell u what to do. Using a defibrillator ASAP saves lives.
In canada for basic first aid they teach us to just check for breathing instead of a pulse. If they're not breathing then they're going to need cpr in a few moments anyway, and most people have no practice finding pulses
Too many non professionals attempted to use their thumb to find a pulse. And since they felt their own pulse using their thumb they didn't start CPR. So instructions for the non professional in the US is to NOT check for a pulse, but just check breathing.
Instructions here are to get the call to 911 (emergency services) started first. Yell for help. You may need to break CPR to fetch an AED if help does not arrive. At my last job I was a part of the medical emergency response team in addition to my job duties.
We had one person that presented with some of the possible symptoms of a heart attack. He refused an ambulance, so 2 of us grabbed an AED and drove him to the ER. Fortunately it wasn't a heart attack, but caffeine induced tachycardia.
Never check for a pulse, as it is a stressful situation and you may be mistaken an actually be feeling your own pulse through your fingers, also if you are wearing gloves due to the nature of the accident, you may not feel a pulse. Only times to stop cpr is when medical help arrives, you are too exhausted to continue (believe me it is difficult to keep going, my first aid instructor made his students do cpr for a min during training to give us an idea of what it could be like), or the most unlikely event of the person regaining consciousness (which is very very rare, but I have witnessed it once although was on a drowning victim so heart hadn't stopped)
I'm curious about doing CPR on women. Do you do it between the breasts? Some women don't have space in between to let you to get in there.
Same with the defibrillator, do you put the pads on the breasts? Does the nipple and the fat in the breasts affect the effectiveness?
@@catherineliu06 their breasts sort of flop to the side and don't really get in the way, just due to gravity since they have to be laying on their back when you do CPR. As for the AED pads, iirc one goes just below the right clavicle and the other goes on the other side about 2 inches below the bottom of the left pectoral muscle. There's no boobs on the clavicle obviously, and you can lift the woman's breast to place the left pad. As for if the fat gets in the way of the shock, I'd say yes but not to such a degree that it makes a difference in the patient's outcome
The fact that this guy took the time to fact check the choking procedure made my day. I'm a lifeguard and I'm American Red Cross trained so I thought they were doing it wrong.
well in the UK it's not the norm.
Yeah. Glad they told us that hitting the back isn’t actually “wrong,” it’s just not the preferred technique that their department uses. Although the woman was a bit condescending about it
@@BlitzOfTheReich it’s different in Australia too.
Yep in the UK you have 2 algorithms, effective cough and non effective cough. Non effective cough is upto 5 back blows (not slaps!) and if not effective then upto 5 abdominal thrusts. Reason why blows instead of slaps? Blows are harder than slaps!
@@frankbath208 ^ exactly
An EMT offered a comforting thought about bystander CPR. A person with no pulse and not breathing has been considered dead for much of human history. Whatever the result, however good or bad the CPR, we are not killing anyone.
He also insisted that his first aid students get counseling after a major incident, because we would be traumatized - even if it ended well.
That is true, but my classmate immediately said; 'Okay, well, if they choked, I am going to stab them in the throat repeadetely to make some airholes. I don't care what anyone says, I bet that will help them."
And ever since then, I do think that the rule would be; 'Stick to the CPR and don't freestyle with your own ideas too much."
Unless you live in China.
Even at the hands of experts, CPR has a low success rate. I've seen it work, and I've seen it not work. I agree with the counseling advice, because even though it's a huge adrenaline rush, it can be traumatizing.
Ehh broken ribs, no thanks let me go.
I tried saving a young man’s life in my Apt building in 2015. Unbeknownst to me, he had been dead apprx 30 mins.
They were partying. I hear screams for help at 11:30pm and go running outside and in that Apt. I start CPR. The girl there was hysterical on her phone. My neighbor was running around outside screaming incoherently. (They were super high on coke) I grab the phone and 911 is asking me stuff. I notice a odd fluid coming from his ears.
It was cerebral fluid abs as you know, that meant he was dead and way beyond help! I’ve listened to that 911 call. I’m shocked I was so calm! I got back to my Apt and cried for a week! I felt like if I had just heard them earlier and knocked on the door telling them to cut the shit and quiet down, maybe he’d be alive.
He was 29 and died of a Cocaine overdose. I had to get therapy to come to terms with not saving him. I’m tearing up now. I stayed with his body. I held him, prayed over him and kissed his forehead when I left. WHY? He was someone’s child! He didn’t deserve to lay there dead with only junkies, a stripper (the girl) and Cops who honestly acted like the trash got knocked over. I know they see far too much but still. The Detective was an Ass and never even questioned me! The ONLY sober one in that Apt! The Young Man’s Mom heard there was someone her age there taking care with her son and tracked me down. She sent me an Angel bracelet and one of her Son’s funeral cards.
We are very dear friends now.
I highly agree with this post about getting therapy or just someone to talk to if you’re involved with a rescue. That young man’s pic, Raz’s pic stays on my fridge.
Within 3 yrs the 2 friends in that Apt both died over drug overdoses too! How sad!
50 years ago while running ops over seas we carried s bar of ivory soap to clean injuries. We all spent two weeks helping in emergency rooms at army post. We were gone for two plus weeks at a time with no help. We were on our own. We carried a lot of drugs with a cheat sheet to help treat us and locals. Good video. Lot of false info out there. Sent from my wife's phone.
I haven’t had a CPR first aid class in a while. It was nice to know everything you talked about I knew. My head was nodding along. Esp the part about seizures.
"Its ill-advised to ever have an answer in our life where sucking something out is, like, your go-to thing."
Words of wisdom right there.
That’s true a lot in life.
Why'd you have to go and make things so complicated? I see the way you're acting like you're somebody else. Gets me frustrated. Just admit that you love the videos I make, my dear ju
Idk if someone gets bitten by a snake and you cant get them to a hospital a deathbed BJ might be appreciated
@@AxxLAfriku fancy seeing you here
Are you sure 😏
"We don't recommend using rubbing alcohol to clean wounds"
Someone tell this to the nurses in generic action movies after the protagonist survives an explosion
How about stuffing gunpowder in a wound and lighting it? I saw that in a couple films lol. Like, are you kidding, on top of whatever traumatic body injury you have you want to add 2nd or 3rd degree burns to it? And it won't accomplish any disinfecting intent?
Someone tell my mom that 😦
I've been a nurse x 26 years & I'm also telling ppl not to use hydrogen peroxide on wounds per protocol. I use it all the time on minor wounds & things like minor infected hang nails.....
@@1utube01 The purpose of that was to cauterize the wound. (Sealing through burning the top surface). Stops further bleeding, while the heat sterilises it. Not the perfect solution but in complex situations, you gotta make do with what's available.
To be fair, I really doubt they would have soap and water in the middle of nowhere/combat zones, whereas they may have alcohol with them (e.g. hand sanitizer, drinking alcohol) and someone who is prepared cna more easily carry alcohol than soap and water. 🤷♂️
I’ve watched several of these and they just keep getting better and better. This was excellent; they not only answered questions but they thoroughly explained and even demonstrated things that everyone should know.
When I was in X-ray school in ER, the patient on my table was unconscious and began seizing, and I yelled to the staff in the next room “get in here she’s seining!” We don’t want the patient to fall off the table.
Crazy thing is that the seizure woke her up but she still couldn’t talk. I could see the fear in her eyes from not being able to ask what is going on. Since I was the student, I had nothing to do while everyone else dealt with her, so I went to where she could see me and called her by her name, and said “I know you are scared, you have been in an accident. You were knocked out and I don’t know why you aren’t able to speak right now. Please be patient and we will do everything we can for you.” She calmed down after that so I knew she was aware of what I said. My only regret, is that I didn’t save her name to check on how she was later… I’m sure she was ok but that feeling of not knowing how it turned out still eats at me years later.
Calming down someone who's having a seizure makes the seizure less severe so you most likely made her recovery time quicker
Hey you did a great thing by keeping calm and helping anyway you could. Much respect for that! Try Facebook to try and get hold of her or someone who may know her. Offer your information (when/where you 'met') and see what happens...
You sir did one of the most important things possible. You were a true hero in that moment! Unfortunately not many people realize how many of those moments actually happen in the health care system. There are many "unsung heroes" out there and that day you were one of those!
nah, you did all the right things and all she's likely to remember is that you calmed her down. really.
Talking to a person and calming them down is very helpful. Often people are ignored and dehumanized in medical care, and that is terrifying.
As a first aid instructor trainer, we never use the term " Heimlich maneuver" but rather use the term "abdominal thrusts". This was only because the family (Heimlich) wanted royalties each time their name was used for this protocol.
What a bunch of selfish idiots. Meanwhile Frederick Banting refused to patent insulin so that people to more freely get access to it
@@ALexpWTFISTHAT Many times the heirs end up being a pain in the ass instead of honoring their ancestor/relative memory. Few years ago, the brother of British playwright Sarah Kane objected and delayed the publication of a book with a selection of his sister's plays in Argentina because he didn't agree with the translation. The incredible thing was that he doesn't speak A WORD of Spanish, he just noticed that the punctuation was different in some parts and refused to accept that you can't take the punctuation from a language and just plug it in another like a thumbdrive... Insane
@@ALexpWTFISTHAT well that backfired. Pharmaceutical companies have made people die because they couldn't afford the insulin.
Paulescu discovered insulin but yeah, same principle.
I’m unsure how the royalties would be enforced. I don’t believe there is a copyright law that would cover the name of a procedure, but I could be wrong.
Side note: a while back I remember reading about Dr. Heimlich actually performing the maneuver he invented and saving a fellow resident at his retirement home. It doesn’t really relate to the thread, but I thought it was a sweet story. Now I want to look it up.
You should have mentioned that mouth to mouth, along with chest compressions, is necessary in drowning incidents. Also, to first check for a pulse. Performing CPR on an unconscious person with a pulse is incredibly dangerous.
So a few things...
1. Whilst yes, ventilations/mouth to mouth is far more important in certain causes of cardiac arrest such as drowning, for the everyday bystander, mouth to mouth has been shown to be one of the reasons why people can be reluctant.
Compressions are still very important and compressions only is still far better than nothing.
2. Most bystanders would not be able to accurately check for a pulse. It's why the breathing check is used - much easier for the everyday person to check, and if they are not breathing they either don't have a pulse, or very soon won't, and will need CPR anyway
(The ol first aid DRSABCD - danger, response, send for help, airway, breathing, cpr, defib)
3. For the everyday person in an emergency, where they are likely not prepared and not trained, simpler is generally better. The more you have to focus on, the less you can do well. Take CPR - good quality compressions only is far better than average quality compressions with mouth to mouth.
Some ppl might not know how to check for a pulse.
To check for a pulse put two fingers on the left side of the neck or on the left wrist on the side where the palm is. But checking for breathing is always easier because you can't get an accurate pulse read all the time.
Mouth to mouth is actually discouraged to lifeguards because of the risk of infection (drowning people vomit. A lot). We're taught to use a mask or just get started on compression only CPR after calling for help
As for checking a pulse, the other guy said it all: bystanders aren't trained to do that accurately. If someone isn't breathing, it's more dangerous to wait and try to find a pulse than to just start. Sometimes they have a pulse and they're not breathing, but they won't for long
Every time I try to take my own pulse I can't ever feel it.
I burned my hand with melted plastic 7 - 9 years ago and after i was holding my hand in a cup of water a full day. When it was submerged in water i was feeling so good no pain at all, but when i took it out i was dying from the pain.
I'm so happy that in Germany you have to do a first aid course in order to get your driving license
Same in Norway.
Did it at school.
Then in the air force.
Then at drivers licenses (twice! One for bike then for car)
And now I have to do it every two years at the hospital I work (and I work in admin....not as a clinician).
@@keencolios591 because mouth to mouth cpr is actually effective. I do have more trust in european studies tho.
That used to be a thing here, in California, but now they don't offer Driver's Training in HS. The private schools can choose to make it part of the criteria, but it's not a state requirement.
This is something I wish they would do here in the UK, but sadly they don't. I also wouldn't be against having a law that says every car needs to contain a fully stocked first aid kit.
@@TheMidnightillusion you don't have to have a first aid kit in your car? In Germany you need one in your car in order to be allowed to drive it.
My wife had "learned" CPR from watching crime shows on TV and managed with that knowledge, to start up my ticker and save my life some 12 years ago.
that's honestly awesome, does she throw in the "remember when I brought you back to life?" during every argument now? lol
@@tylerstephens9456 No not really, as I saved her life when a blood vessel broke in her brain.
Else it had been hard to hear her say if we had an argument that "I shouldn't have saved your life ....".
Anyway, it's good to learn the most basic life saving techniques.
@@Soundbrigade Oh, i definitely didn't mean it as a "I shouldn't have" kinda comment, and you're absolutely right. Simple information can save tons of lives
@@tylerstephens9456 I read your reply with smile on my face. I never read "between the lines" and I love comments like yours that are spiced with humour and empathy.
I'm a retired police officer. I was an EMT. 1 of the first in our area. It's good to know that very little has changed. Thank you for your service. Also when the knife is removed don't put it back. This is a great presentation.
When I was studying to be a Nurse Aide ( formerly known as "Hospital Orderly"), our instructor told us that Dr. Heimlich no longer wanted his name to be associated with the maneuver. So we had to come up with something different, sort of like "the artist formerly known as Prince". So we called it "The maneuver formerly known as Heimlich's.
We should all share this with as many people as possible to spread the word. I am going to share it with the teachers at my school.
noob
Actually no. It's still a video from the internet with no link to sources and it will stay the same even if the redcross changes their mind 10 years later.
What everyone should do is follow a first aid course from a registered local trainer who's updated.
@@terry_the_terrible yes and the ems in this video would likely agree! Good call!
@@terry_the_terrible Fair point.
I work as an active EMT. All of their advice in this video is current and correct
"all municipal buildings have these in EVERY location"
as someone who works in a municipal complex with 5 seperate buildings, i can tell you we have a grand total of ZERO aed's
This is true in NYC
The average yahoo can't change a tire. I doubt that they could use an AED.
@@pmarie2003 let alone know WHEN to use one.
@@pmarie2003 you open the aed and it literally has a recording start that tells you what to do. It's a lot easier than changing a tire
@@pmarie2003 a tire doesn't have an automated voice that tells you what to do. An AED tells you where to put the pads, what to do once the pads are on, gives a tempo for CPR if needed, and tells the users when to hit a button to provide a shock if needed. If you dont need to do cpr or give shocks it will tell you. In fact, the AED won't even let you shock them unless they need it. AEDs are engineered to be idiotproof.
I was out to lunch with my son, mom and step father and looked over and saw by mom choking. I moved like grease lightning and had her up and did the Heimlich on her and popped out what she was choking on. Being able to know what to do and act quickly was well worth getting my EMT training for. I am also a CPR instructor and would STRONGLY recommend that everyone get CPR certified. As part of that certification, you are also taught how to help choking adults and infants. It is training that can save the life of someone you love.
I’m glad my knowledge is up to date! During my years of Aviation First Aid the most difficult to perform was the choking casualty 🥴
I've played Ace Attorney, and I learned that stabbing implements form a 'seal' that prevents massive blood loss!
If you remove the implement, then that 'seal' breaks and you can bleed out quickly.
John wick showed that several times
Hey there! What case of Ace Attorney are you referring to?
@@user-ds4kt4jh2t From memory, this fact was covered multiple times, but to give one example...the final case of the third game, Trials and Tribulations.
The defendant was seen taking a weapon out of a corpse in one area, but in reality the victim was stabbed elsewhere by someone else; the weapon was left in the body whilst it was moved to minimise the possibility of a blood trail.
They even depicted this correctly in the last season of The Venture Brothers, where Doc nearly bled out from removing a piece of glass from his leg
That's why bayonets and other dagger type things that are made for actually stabbing people have a blood channel - a little ridge on one or both sides of the blade - so you can literally pull it out and plug them again and again. A regular kitchen knife won't want to come out again
My sister is epileptic. She was diagnosed in the mid-90's. At that time we were told to put a leather strap in her mouth to keep her from breaking her teeth. Later on, they said not to do that any more.
Weird I went to nursing school in the 90's & also worked in neuroscience. I was always taught not to put anything into a seizing persons mouth. Obviously not meaning necessary airways.
That's because nobody 100% figured out what's the best solution to lot of things, including epilepsy. So procedures change all the time according to whatever the latest research suggests.
@@Bloodark124 Not in this case. Prevalent research since the 1970s, I believe. Either this doctor did not keep himself up to date or was very negligent. I have epilepsy myself and from the time I was diagnosed in 1989 told to ride the seizure out and never put anything in my mouth.
Around the same time, I was taught that a man’s wallet was often easily accessible and good to put in the mouth. At the time, they still believed the tongue could be swallowed, but also knew the old method (pressing the tongue down with a spoon) was breaking teeth.
@@KateandBree Training for the general public seems to lag behind what is taught to the professionals.
Thank You soooo much! I’m 63yr and believed the myths! Y’all saving lives with proper information!
Bit of a stretch to call back blows a myth when it is widely taught internationally. I would be interested to find out the rationale behind the AHA favouring abdominal thrusts over back blows, as I always thought it was meant to be the least intrusive interventions possible.
its much more useful to do abd thrusts not wasting time doing back blows
@@itsmetorigladys according to what data? The jury's still out, like everything in prehospital healthcare it seems. I was taught back blows in paramedic school. Just wait a month, they'll change it to something else
I'm a Registered Nurse and have always been taught to alternate between 5 blows to the front and 5 blows to the back (thrusting upwards), and it's applicable for all ages.
The other thing with CPR is that it is incredibly tiring, especially if you don't practice it regularly. If you're going to start performing CPR on someone, grab another person to switch out with. Even if you have to walk them through how to do it, it will give you time to recover and take back over. It could take longer than you'd think for an ambulance to get to you, and effective CPR means continuing until that point. Make it easier for yourself - grab a partner.
Another thing people don't realize is that CPR, if done correctly, often will injure the person who is having the emergency.
@@DragonAurora Maybe people don’t realise that because it doesn’t matter. 😉 Save their life first, worry about the broken ribs later!
Right good cpr will often break bones. Also it's much more effective for babies and children. For adults it's very hit or miss but gives untrained people something to do. But if you do do it definitely do it on pairs because it's tiring. ALSO you need to do way more chest compressions then you think
That's something I was always afraid of, I'm really really weak and small and if even stronger and bigger people get tired, how can I possibly keep the CPR up. :(
Often, of the CPR performance isn't stellar, aspirin is just as helpful to emergency combat cardiac issues as CPR. Carry some on you to administer at the very first sign of distress before CPR is needed.
These people are the real life heroes, imagine how many lives they save on a daily basis. I know it is a very hard stressful job, but dam it must be fulfilling when it goes right.
The job is stressful but fun af. I've met and spoken to both of them.
Not anymore apparently if they don't get the experimental drug their fired.
@@ellkir1521 This is not new. Paramedics have been expected to follow the recommendations of health experts for some time now, and required vaccinations for people working in medicine are nothing new.
@@ellkir1521 Would you rather that science just stop? No new medications. No new treatments. Just stop. If we don't already use it then we don't need to. Point being, all new medications, treatments and all advancements in medicine are in fact experimental in the beginning.
@@firstlast-fr1le Straw man argument of a fool. I'm not anti vax. I am anti stupid. And vaxing everyone with an experimental drug and ignoring the facts on far superior natural immunity from our health community in favor of the crowd speak controlled by Google a Chinese shill is insane. Get out of your cloud speak box and do your own research not what they feed you. Don't be a sheeple and learn not to go with crowd. You'll be piss ed just how much you've been lied to and programmed.
As a retired physician, I can offer my greatest support for this video. The information is up-to-date and should be your acquaintance for the remainder of your life. It will be showed to my family.
Excellent advice. One little addition, concerning bites or venomous bites, try to remember the details of the creature that bit you. Even better, if possible, take a photo with your cell. The idea is similar to being honest with what one is overdosing on. Once the medical staff know what toxin/poison entered your body, they can treat you better.
1977, my girlfriend knew to check the airway of a collision victim we saw. The lady's tongue was pulled back from swallowing. I was a medically dumb 19yo and aghast. A life was saved with my g/f having no training. She just knew it. We progressed to 5 children and 6 grandchildren. She is still a wonderous woman to me.
Wow really a lot to learn here. These tips can save people lives, especially those who learned first aid from movies.
🙋🏻♀️That’s how I learned. Agree, these tips fantastic & will save lives.
You're like everywhere aren't you?
A good first step would be to not learn anything from movies, especially anything related to the medical field.
i seriously wanna watch a full commentary with these two for the entirety of Crank and Crank 2 lol
Learn is the wrong word.
Very cool. Thank you for sharing these. I knew some, but didn't know others. And it's cool to find out the reasons behind what to do and what not to do.
Skater here. Every single time I scrape up my body it is always been my first instinct just a poor rubbing alcohol on it and overtime I just completely stopped feeling the pain
The butter thing actually comes from a time when people didn’t have running water, so often butter was the coldest thing in their house.
Butter is also fat so the idea as an emollient and protectant makes sense, but yeah you want the heat to radiate out first so first would be washing it and idk if butter is the most sterile option
It was used for sealing of the wound to cut the air from the skin, which makes it feel better. Unfortunately it also seals bacteria into the wound, increasing the chance of infection.
A great example of "old wisdom" that nobody knows anymore WHY it was applicable to the time. If that was all you had, it was probably better (butter) than nothing? 8^)
@@bethmorano1452 if you literally just burned yourself, how much bacteria is there realistically going to be? I guess it depends on how hot the object you burned yourself on was
@@ericm1839 really? You think bacteria can’t get on the skin from well water, other peoples hands, the butter itself? Heat doesn’t destroy all bacteria, that’s why we have antibacterial salve etc.
Been a First Aider for many years, and had a colleague come to me with chest pain, looking rather paler and clammy than usual. Asked a colleague to trot through the building to get the AED while we waited for an ambulance. Longest 5 minutes of my life tbh, but thankfully it was not his heart. He never knew I was expecting him to collapse at any moment either, keeping him calm was very important (were it his heart, panic is likely to do harm).
What was his problem?
@@istolethispfpsorry485, it’s apparently a lung issue, his lungs are too large???
Certainly a worrying time for me tho…
To patient : stay calm, nothing to worry about.
To colleague : go get the machine for dying people, please.
@@diamondmx3076, kinda, yeah.
@@diamondmx3076 I mean, putting the patient in a state of panic is probably worse
Having been fascinated by and studying snakes since I was a child...and having studied to become an EMT as an adult, I so appreciate your using "venomous", instead of poisonous!!!
ER nurse here, former paramedic. Keep doing the good work. Outstandingly good information. Love to you guys.
I did once see a tv show where they actually said: you are going to die if I remove the sword from your body. Rare, I know.
john wick 2, consider this a professional courtesy
John Wick 2 did it too
Full metal alchemist?
I have seen one or two that show breaking off an arrow instead of pulling it out. It always irks me when someone who gets stabbed in a show pulls it out and stares at the blood on it.
On those shows, they explain it that the weapon or whatever is blocking severed arteries, etc., from blood flowing out. No idea if that is a real thing or not.
I battle with epilepsy myself. While I never believed putting anything in someone's mouth during a seizure was good, I was never told that it had to do with swallowing a tongue. Rather I know other epileptics who have bitten their tongue to the point that it is severely altered. I thought this was about not biting your tongue.
Either way, from an epileptic herself, if you see me seizing, turn me on my side, away from anything hazardous, and DON'T PUT ANYTHING IN MY MOUTH PLEASE.
When I was a baby, I suffered from seizures... My parents put metal keys or soft plastic toys in my mouth.. When I asked them abt it, they said they did it so that I don't break my teeth... Is this true or a myth? 🤔
Yeah , I've hear about not biting the tongue, which seems a real problem. "Swallowing" the tongue seems a bit stupid lol
@@mermaidbliss8935 Seems like you’d be more likely to break your teeth on the random objects they were putting in your mouth. I would imagine putting random stuff in someone’s mouth when they’re seizing could be creating a choking hazard on top of the seizure, but I’m not an expert on this lol.
@@mermaidbliss8935 It's a bad idea regardless, but especially for a baby. Metal might well damage teeth anyways if they bite down on it and if the object gets swallowed that could cause damage or it could get lodged in the airway and kill them. Never do this and especially not in a misguided attempt to protect teeth that will naturally fall out, usually before puberty
Most important thing I've observed is just trying to protect their head and make sure they are clear of anything sharp.
I’m New Zealand we’re encouraged to invest in cpr face shields. While it’s encouraged to only do chest compressions, there are situations that still require mouth to mouth
Thank you I understood in the simplest terms and can’t thank you enough for the job you do ❤️
Clearly my phone was paying attention yesterday when my husband's choking sounds woke me up from a deep sleep and suddenly I was giving him the Heimlich maneuver for the first time in my life before I was even consciously wake. But now I'm wondering if my phone suggested this video as a "Good job," or a "You should have given him another minute of observation to see if he started turning blue before deciding whether you needed you step in." 🤔 Either way, today he's sore, but thank God he's still alive, and I'm hoping everyone will be extra, extra careful when taking your medications. Teach your kids basic first aid when they are young! ❤️
Coughing is a sign of air flow. The best option is always to just let/encourage them to cough it up.
How do you teach them first aid skills if you haven't learnt them yourself? taking a first aid class so as to dispel myths you might teach your kids is a much better idea
While it won't be fun I don't think it would do much harm to give someone the Heimlich Maneuver who didn't actually need it. In fact the first time I was taught in first aid class they actually had us do it on each other though they stopped doing that after a while.
@@nunyabiznez6381 Anyone who has abdominal thrusts (heimlich) performed on them needs to get checked by a doctor after. Even if they are no longer choking, abdominal thrusts can cause damage to internal organs and even break ribs, so do not perform them on anyone when it is not necessary and always call for medical help or go to the doctor after.
@@jennagrace1534 Then they must not teach that method any more and I stand corrected. I was unaware of the risk. When I was first taught, about 30+ years ago, each student would take turns practicing on other students so we would know how to do it correctly and what it felt like. I ended up with about twenty thrusts that first time and some minor bruising.
6:10 When I had a heart attack, I woke up with someone pound the crap out of my chest. You can't note breathe because the chest compressions don't just compress your heart, they compress your lungs. I was able to speak, but it was choppy. I could only get a word out between compressions.
I asked it they should be doing that while I was awake, apparently just in the nick of time. The doctor was taking a breath to pronounce me dead.
My chest was very sore for about a week, but they didn't break any of my ribs. They did a fantastic job on me, from the paramedics to the ICU nurse.
12:00 I woke up from a nap with this terrible pain in my chest. I thought it was gas or heartburn so I went to the bathroom but that didn't help.
I take care of my elderly father and he took one look at me and called 911 without me even saying anything. I was soaked with cold sweat and the pain just kept getting worse and worse.
I had no pain in my arms but the pain in my crest went from my sternum clear through to my spine.
Para medics rushed me right out and to the ER. 3 minutes after arrival my heart stopped and I passed out.
I woke up 4 minutes later while they were doing CPR. It was a very bizarre feeling. Not painful exactly but very uncomfortable.
Glad to hear you survived. As a nurse I can say it is absolutely freaky when someone wakes up during CPR
I'm glad you had better doctors than my dad. He survived a heart attack that they said wasn't a super bad one. Just to die in the ICU basically 24 hours later. Talked to him on the phone from his hospital room that night around 9pm.. He said he was feeling a lot better... And then about 4am we got the call from the hospital.. We were also treated rudely by the doctors, the nurses were all great, but the doctors were beyond rude. I'll never forgive them for that.
When my dad was in his early fifties. He was out in the bush near Mackenzie BC. His son was fifteen and spending time with me dad during a school break. Not normal for him to have anyone with him. Dad was trying to fix a tire on their in and out vehicle. And he dropped like a stone. His son managed to get him into the vehicle and drove him back to the camp. It just happened that this was a supply drop day and the bush pilot had been hanging around to flirt with the staff. They loaded my dad onto the plane and flew him to Mackenzie airport. An ambulance met him and his son. Brought him to the hospital. Of the three doctors that worked at the hospital. All of whom are general practitioners the doctor on call that Easter weekend had his father visiting from eastern Canada. His father was rated number two cardiologist in the country. And managed to stabilize my father and get him on another plane to Prince George BC. The visiting cardiologist saved my fathers life that day. He lost fifty percent of his heart function during that first heart attack. His son being there that day saved his life. The pilot delivering supplies and just hanging around saved my fathers life. Any one of those people not being there during that Easter weekend and my father would have been dead.
Sometimes it’s better to be lucky eh. Oh and at no time did my dad need cpr during his heart attack.
My dad lived another twenty years. Worked until he was seventy out in the bush on heavy equipment twelve hour days seven days a week. He retired and was dead from heart failure four years later.
@@amandasaint8513 But I hope it's a good freaky.
It was add because I didn't have a sensation of passing out or waking up. It was like if you removed 4 minutes from a movie and spliced it bac together without a seam.
I was still having the same thought I was thinking when my heart stopped.
It was a very strange experience. If not for the incredible pain and risk of death I might like to do it again.
On another subject, what is with all of these people with appropriate names? I keep running into them, or hearing about them. There was Max Schreck the silent era German horror movie actor (Schreck is German for terror) Bernie Madoff, who made off with all their money, Anthony Weiner who sent inappropriate selfies to his female employees, I worked with a welder named Mark Blackwelder (but he was white but turned black at the end of the workday) the race car driver Lake Speed, and now you Ms. Saint, a nurse who likes people waking up while doing CPR on them.
@@erictaylor5462 Not a bad freaky, but definitely a "uh, do I need to stop now? They are awake? Why are they awake if their heart is not pumping on it's own?" Freaky
It was very HELPFUL!
Thank you so much and God bless you all! 🙏❤️❤️❤️
When I was going through a summer work program, I was given a job at the VA as a sugerical assistant. I have epilepsy, so as a precaution, they had taped wrapped tongue depressors in different areas where I was working. It made me feel uncomfortable. They never had to use them on me, thankfully.
I remember learning mouth-to-mouth CPR in school and just recoiling at the thought of having to do that. I was so relieved years later when they went to the hands-only method.
Mouth to Mouth or Mouth to Mask respirations are still recommended for children and infants since they're more oxygen-dependant and use more (Especially with their average heart rate being higher than adults). It's according to the AHA 2020 Guidelines and ECC/ILCOR.
@@xaviergarcia7965 you should just grow up
@@mariomario4068 no sped
There are barriers sold to avoid the grossness (and potential danger, especially during a respiratory pandemic) of mouth-to-mouth, otherwise yeah, go hands-only (unless it's a child, like Xavier said).
@@xaviergarcia7965 oh wow. You're dating yourself, I haven't heard that since high school! Now I'm dating myself lol
Parents need to be made to watch this, as well as everybody, as many still pound on the back/force them to drink water of the person choking. Many schools should watch this as part of health class, as they will save lives, despite their parents telling/shouting/yelling/demanding them to do the opposite, which will make the situation worse, or even kill someone.
Pounding on the back isn't necessarily wrong, it's just that most people don't execute it correctly. When hitting the back you should lean the choking person forward because if you don't, gravity will just keep the idk what it's called in english 'bolus' where it is
…except that for children, pounding the back IS the correct method. They even say so in this video. Please do not perform abdominal thrusts on a baby or small child.
It’s also what I was told in a first aid course 3 days ago, so that can’t be that bad. The Heimlich manoeuvre is only the 3rd action you should attempt (first, let the person cough on their own. If it doesn’t dislodge the food, 5 sharp slap on the back, upwards while you lean the person forward. Third, heimlick).
This should be required lesson for people to take in school ,mid school,high school and college
Yeah, I always drink water when I got chocked with fish bone
Thank you Both so much for your service ! great info I did not know
Thhese things are good to know! Thank you so much for the information and thank you for your services! 🙏🏾💛🙏🏾
As a former ER nurse, this video should be seen by everyone because most people are clueless. Nice job.
would you perform CPR without restoring oxygen saturation on a person who clearly is showing signs of low saturation? Cause that's what they just told people to do.
@@marlboroman71818 Would you rather have people hesitate doing cpr because they don't want to go mouth to mouth? We are talking about regular people here.
@@TheBaggydog I'd rather them have the correct knowledge and let them make that choice for themselves.
@@marlboroman71818 because that's the correct step to take. Chest compressions are more important than oxygen therapy
Lolz "heart attack" is a layman's term though while cardiac arrest is mostly used by EMS/hospital staff. There are some things wrong with the video. Not exactly something that I would share.
Honestly, I didn't realize how much I learned through my emt class until I saw this vid. I just got certified as an emt last month, and I didn't feel like I learned too much other than the practical stuff. But watching this made me realize, I use to think all of those myths were true like a year ago and now I knew all of them were wrong haha
Congrats! You’ll see some of these things happen eventually if you work EMS long enough. Be safe
@@RescueRandy thank you, I'm starting my EMT job next month which I'm so hyped about, can't wait to experience it
@@teflondonmiggz Enjoy the stretches of boredom followed by the moments of sheer terror. I ran for almost 10 years it was an excellent life experience.
Yeah me neither. It felt like I hadn't really learned anything, especially with how green you feel when you start running calls. I forget sometimes the thought process of a layman. Make sure you don't do what I do and miss running calls. Busy college life and being a firefighter left me neglecting running EMS calls. Finally pushed myself to do regular duty crew and finally getting confidence enough to trust my judgement. And that's just with two 6 hour stints a month.
@@raycreveling1583 this is what I live for. Things can go from chilling to shit storm in an instant and it's when everything just kinda clicks
Great vid. You two are great together. Most of those myths I was aware of.
Hey! You two are great! I would be very ok if I needed ems and you guys showed up. I have done E.R.T. & S.I.R.T. at several places of employment. The first at a major vehicle proving ground in AZ & we were provided access to training with local fire department and E.M.S. teams. Always something new to learn. Thanks! 😎🇺🇸🌻🇺🇦🇺🇸
Thank you for what you guys do, it takes an almost self determental toll on your mental and emotional health. I know this because I was a service member for 10 years and that amount of death and gore breaks your mind. You push on cause you feel you can take it and can push forward, you forget that you are also important. You feel like I need to do it because I can.
Fun informational video, guys. Randy was one of my instructors in medic school, and he is every bit as awesome as he seems in this video. He was doing rescue medic training at the time and still never lost his patience with anyone.
He was instructor for my emt class more than 6 yrs ago
Awesome guy
For the record, the "put something in the mouth of someone having a seizure" was about the *biting off* their tongue, not swallowing it.
They still found that patients were more likely to have an injury from something in their mouth anyway, since biting the tongue is so uncommon.
And it wasn't a myth, it was an official first-aid technique. My very first red cross course taught the wallet/belt thing.
Oh, I thought it's so they don't suffocate.
@@dontuse1029 I thought it was to prevent them from breaking their teeth, like a sports mouthguard.
The red cross first aid training from 30 years back is almost obsolete today. They way i was taught cpr and bleeding has been completely changed. Only the battle medics used pressure points over tourniquet back then...
no one wants to wake up doing mouth to mouth with me... give you another miocardial infarction, or suicidal thoughts for the rest of your life.
But something SOFT in their mouth, like a rag or something leather to keep them from breaking teeth.
Actually, it was both. As a retired EMT I can't count the times I've had someone rush in and want to jam something in the patients mouth so "they don't swallow their tongue". It doesn't have to make sense for it to become ingrained in culture. During my life I've served as a firefighter/EMT and a police officer. The one thing that you can count on is that people almost get their information about medicine and the law from TV and movies...and they are almost always wrong. Well intentioned but wrong.
I found this really useful. Enforcement of stuff I knew, and I always wondered what those defibrillator boxes had in them. Also, I received a long lecture on not pulling a bayonet out of myself ,or a buddy, if someone fell on it during Army basic combat training. I will never forget it, but always wondered how many people panic and injure themselves, or die from doing the wrong things when they are on their own? How many people are not capable of stopping their own bleeding from a serious puncture or laceration? Maybe a good topic to explore.
I think the only people pulling knifes and things out of them are only people who actually think it will help, or its just an immediate reaction. You got to think about how painful that would be.
Randy & Lorena thank you so very much for your service, and you videos.
As a nurse, I trust EMTs more than most nurses
That's because a lot of nurses who don't work in a busy setting lose all that necessary knowledge. EMTs and ER nurses at trauma centers use this stuff every day. (That said, never trust a charge nurse to know what they are doing)
Well, it depends but for first aid. I'll take an EMTs advise anyday.
@A H I've been a nurse for well over a decade, no projecting here, it's just a fact. Although the charge nurse bit is half a joke. There are a decent enough who manage to "fall up" into that position though.
@@andrewhegstrom2187 As a Paramedic thank you but dont forget ICU and CCU nurses. They generally know their stuff. Aside from that I agree 100%
@@cribbibalibba2383 you're absolutely right, PICU as well.
I believe everyone needs to take a basic first aid course!! Unless I missed something and it is required in high school, college and in the work place...
Health class senior year we were taught CPR and how to use an AED, though it wasn't comprehensive. It certainly helped though.
In Germany, when you get your driver's license, you're required to take basic first aid courses and take them every few years to refresh your memory. I guess it's different in America.
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I had one in school! I dont know if that's typical. Having it paired with a driver's license test seems like a pretty good idea, actually.
@@AkizatheNacho the wife also had to be fully trained as she was night manager. Rules said they had to have someone trained in advanced CPR on premises.
In some countries yes, others not. Here in the UK, first aid isn't covered in school unless you are doing something very specific like a first aid addon in the scouts, etc. In the work place, if you have above a certain number of employees, you are required to have at least 1 person who is first aid qualified, but it is rare to have every employee be first aid trained (it takes too long and costs too much money).
The thing about CPR and first aid is that doing a single course once every 2-3 years doesn't really prepare you for doing it in real life. You need regular practice which is why here in the UK, any profession that might have to do CPR will practice these skills at least once a month.
bro looks like he hangs out with spiderman on his free time
As a practicing paramedic in Chicago, I must say that this presentation was excellent. With respect to CPR, please, do it fast and do it hard. The recommended rate is between 100 and 120 compressions per minute. You could save a life.
I’m a Paramedic in LA, one thing they didn’t mention is you NEVER pull out a a knife or object that’s penetrated in someone UNLESS it’s in the chest area and it prevents you from doing CPR. Address the bleeding and cover it up really good and then do CPR. They’re temporarily dead so they won’t feel any pain either.
Good point but not only the chest but if it occludes the airway as well.
well this is actually a controversial topic, it’ll ultimately go down to the paramedic themselves whether they’ll do what you mentioned or just stabilize from primary assessment & just give diesel treatment
3 months after Covid my husband who did not have seizures, had a massive one. I saw him turn purple then became unresponsive. I did CPR (no breaths), and he started moving when the paramedics finally arrived. He had been going into organ failure-and has a lot of problems now that were not an issue before.
While I’m an RN, I recommend that everyone get trained in CPR. You just never, ever know when you are going to encounter someone who needs it.
I want to be certified. I'm an LVT so I'm trained in CPCR for animals, but I'd like to be certified for people because then I can help if I'm out in public or something.
I personally have epilepsy (have had multiple seizures) and like they said in the vid, i do think it's better to just let the seizure pass without doing anything extra if the seizure is just minor (if it lasts like 30 secs), just make sure the person's head is safe (put a pillow or somthing soft to lay the head before the seizure becomes drastic)
Obviously everyone experiences seizures differently depending on their situation but typically for me, I'll have a seizure, typically last for 30 secs, I'll be conscious for all of it but after it's finished, my body becomes numb for bout 2 mins or so (like i can barely lift my arms and legs) then I'll be able to move again, back to normal, hope that gives some type of insight 😅
@@chadspokeanimations3737 in his case, he had a massive one , hit the floor as I dashed in the room, turned purple from the neck up, then went white and unresponsive. No heart beat. I had to do CPR. I still have flashbacks to this.
@@blackfeathercrafts oh wow, I'm sorry to hear that, I'm glad he was able to wake up quickly after it happened (I'm just assuming he woke up quickly since u said he started moving)
I’m lucky I’m required to take the course and a refresher every year by my employer. Most hotel staff supervisors and managers have to. Paid by the company and we get paid as work hours too.
As an RN & Veteran & retired LEO - I love this video!
Good advice. Thanks for posting!
I love the two guests, they made this interesting and entertaining. And I like how it refreshes everything I learned on workplace first aid.
Awesome video, from a physician’s perspective. I’d be honoured to work with these practitioners. Good job.
@@dejavu666wampas9 - I agree with you. You're one of the good guys.
@@dejavu666wampas9 thanks doc!
2:45 That reminds me of the time when my mom who has dementia and is severly disabled almost choked on a strawberry. I was feeding them to her like I did SO many times before and suddenly she was gasping for air. Luckily she managed to draw in a TINY amount of air as she kept trying to inhale and then caughed it out with one big caugh. It still makes my heart sink cause I remember that at the time I did not have the Heimlich Maneuver in my mind. I can't describe how lucky I feel that it worked out so harmlessly. 😓😓😓
Hope your mum is doing well now. Lots of love and good wishes your way
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Hope you've learned to spell 'cough' since then.
Loved this! Learnt so much!!! Would love more of the same!! Good practical knowledge!
Just hearing these back to back is a bit scary. If we did think about them every day we'd be too frightened to do anything! Thanks for clarifications because when I grew up these myths were the STANDARD treatments!
Ill be completely honest the back slap literally saved my life once
@@HessianLikeTheFabric because it can lodge the object further.
@@prissylovejoy702 the respiratory system is designed to push foreign objects out. That being said, something large is going to be harder to remove. Leaning them forward and giving a solid backslap can help. I've personally saved a man's life this way. That said, you don't keep slapping. It's kind of a judgement thing. In my case, the individual was severely mobility impaired and it was easier to lean him forward and attempt a back slap first as standing him up would have required assistance and would've taken time
@The Hessian Because this smart asses need to "debunk" whatever just to pretend to sound smarter. The same with the "who wants to put his mouth in some extrangwrs mouth"... what a lot of bs.
@Prissy Well... no.
@@franciscopino7552 Haha yea thats really true. They make it sound like you wanna save the persons life but gosh you gotta have limits eww.
The real reason is because recent studies have shown it to not really increase survival chance and if mouth to mouth is done incorrectly (which it often is) it reduces the person chance it surviving a cardiac arrest.
First aid is really important. My dad had to do abdominal thrusts on me when I was a kid and saved my life. Really scary moment of my life, and I’m still afraid of choking again. I’m also an EMT so I loved watching this!
Growing up with nurses and doctors in my family and my mom working as a paramedic, I am so glad I learned all these at such a young age and I thank them for that😂♥️
What was it like growing up with a paramedic mom?
@@andynonymous6769 I didn't grow up with my mom. I lived with relatives who were in the medical field. Just recently started staying with my mom tho. It's stressful for her i guess. Sometimes she tells me things that happened during her calls that were scary and heartbreaking. She is pretty resilient tho and she works hard and loves to help people.
The alcohol on wounds really got me, I've been doing this all my life