3 Ways to Respond to Chronic Pain or Symptoms from TMS
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- čas přidán 10. 09. 2024
- Pain is designed to get our attention. But how we respond to chronic pain will determine how long it sticks around.
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Your videos are a life saver. When symptoms start appearing I used to re-listen or re-read Sarno and that would rarely work to calm my symptoms. Your videos melt the symptoms a way. Please keep making videos they help me have a life worth living!
That's fantastic Tom. Thrilled to be able to help in that way. :-)
Agreed Tom
Just found tor channel....EXCELLENT!!! I have had a variety of TMS symptoms at various times in my life. Read all the books, listened to most of the podcast… And yet this channel takes a new approach that I think I really needed.
Wonderful. If you haven't seen it yet, watch my fast start playlist. DansFastStart.com
Wow. I work in animal rescue so the dog analogy really hit me. Thank you.
This video brought greater clarity to something I had already realized. I have a child with special needs. He was quite sick when he was younger and low muscle tone so not the same strength of other children. I watched him like a hawk and surveyed every moment looking for potential danger in order to protect him. I protected him well but it was bad for my nervous system that became hyper hyper vigilant. Dan when you mentioned about how a parent responds is how the child responds and we in essence are doing that for ourselves it totally clicked in my brain that I am responding to EVERYTHING in my life in the hyper vigilant manner I developed to protect my son(looking back I probably didn’t need to be so hyper vigilant. I know from personality traits and other life circumstances I was already primed to be that way.) I will be saving this one to listen to regularly and will work to retrain the “parent” part of me to be more calm to the “child” in me. Thank you for the videos.
Hey Bev. You nailed it exactly. We don't need to be so hyper-vigilant. You are well on your way to recovery. Love it.
I've actually had instances where I passed out in my own bed after working myself up with worry.
It can definitely happen.
Drop'n PEARLS this morning, I see, Dan... Well done, brother! Well done... 👏🏼 Hope you are happy + healthy and enjoying the holiday season. God Bless You and your family, my friend. Thank you for being a voice of reason, hope, and inspiration, and for your leadership this past year (2020). You have given generously of your time, information, and resources in the most selfless + honorable way. I am profoundly grateful to you, and for God bringing you into my circle of influence. Thank you, Dan. Thank you very, very much... Respectfully yours, ~John S. 🙏🏼🤍✝️
Truly humbled by your kind words John. Thank you.
@@PainFreeYou You're most welcome, Dan.
Moving towards indifference, that is the key word, moving. Gold standard anything doesn't happen overnight....it takes repeated action towards it. Iam writing this from bed as I can't sleep because of pain but at least I found this video and my concentration is on it. Pain is still there but for whatever reason I am not freaking out( maybe just don't have energy for that any more) but at least I feel it's a move in right direction.
Yes, indifference won't happen overnight. Yes, you ARE moving in the right direction. Keep going. You'll get there! :-)
What about when the spirit of soul gives up Dan?
I find myself at my lowest darkness for some years.The point where you realise you can't beat the unimaginable.Trust is shattered & with it goes Hope & any(ironically) breath left to fight.
Let me explain,you know I visited the Hospital with shortness of breath recently.This is where we put our trust & faith in those there to diagnose & treat.After extensive tests & more importantly the chest x-ray & chest CT scan which both showed lung irregularities which the Doctor was under no doubt with his diagnosis of Covid 19..I was tested & told the results would be available in 48 hrs,they weren't it took 7 days but to be honest there was a elation of spirit to actually have a diagnosis of something, anything to hang on! To feel normal like most people do when they seek treatment.Find out what's wrong & get treatment.
In the meantime waiting for my results & I think you can preempt what's going to happen there! I've lay in bed for nearly a week because anything else is practically untenable, anything more than being horizontal or sitting I can't function,I'm gasping for breath just walking from one room to another.I can no longer walk the dog or do anything physical.I finally tracked down my test results today & yes you guessed it negative.
I'm supposing in modern medicine today there is no way on two separate tests that one could have a dirty screen & a CT scanner that could have misconstrued dust for lung irregularities.The point being I trust in the The Doctors diagnosis first & foremost,he was thorough,diligent & went above & beyond compared to most of my abysmal experiences with Doctors plus Anxiety as far as I know can't influence two separate chest x-rays so these stand as fact.Anyone can see me physically gasping for breath...Fact.
But imagine in this situation carrying all you're other TMS pains,you're Trust in the NHS,trust in those meant to help totally eroded in bewilderment,trust in anyone fades & inevitably the spirit curls up & is swallowed by the darkness.
Even my loving supporting long suffering partner actually uttered the word"Anxiety"within minutes of the negative test result.Can you imagine the solitude of this,it's crushing to think that no one believes you,you're making it up, you're lying & for God's knows what sadistic purpose?? I don't know what answers I'm looking for here Dan,I think I'm purely venting the madness I feel.
Covid test results are notoriously fickle in the UK if not the world.People have been diagnosed positive who have never even had a test.Tested Positive when Negative & visa versa.....What little I've read there's a simple formula when it comes to covid 19 & tests! Follow the science of what you're body is telling you not the test result because that can change day to day.
Thankfully watching you're videos doesn't exert the lungs so I still watch daily to have the comfort of you're wisdom with me though I have made a effort of trying to spare you these monolithic scriptures of comments I'm sure you've dearly missed.Keep up the Great work Dan,even in dire circumstances like I find myself in the Wisdom always shines a beacon in the darkness🙏🤞🌱
Soul. I am sorry you are going through such difficult times. At the end of the day, it's all fueled by fear, focus and anxiety. The solution is always the same regardless of the severity of the symptoms. Todays video addresses this exact concept.
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The example witht he dog made me tear up. Because it's so explicit and true. It's such a great example. Thank you once again!
Really glad that example resonated with you.
Sadly back here because of a flare up. 2 months with no pain but it came back
Your videos are the harbor I go when the storm comes. Thanks!
Glad to be of service. If you'd like a better understanding of what causes pain and how to eliminate it, my getting started page is a great place to learn: www.PainFreeYou.com/start
The gold standard Dan.
T-shirt idea "no one ever got better by freaking out" :)
Great idea. :-)
🙏🏼 Gold. This compassion, reassurance and outward directing to re engage with life indifferent to whether or not the pain lingers.
This a a great one
Im glad i found you , i have tenstion headaches for 6 weeks , been to doctor , i now have anxiety over it , uuuuuu like a loop , i get upset by the sqeezing in my head ,
When you realize it's tension, stressing out about a condition caused by stress and tension is the one way to ensure it continues. This video on consistent messages of safety can help. czcams.com/video/5SsKnAgAvnY/video.html
thanks dan! i love the child falling analogy. i always used to wait to see if my son would freak out after falling. because you’re absolutely right most of the times it’s nothing. i really needed these reminders because i’m experiencing a dip right now. (i prefer dip to flare!) i can’t always have a mindset of indifference but i like the reassurance idea. you are right symptoms are impossible to ignore i was just getting one strange pain while i was watching. so i said, ahh i see you. but it’s ok. i’ve got this and it literally went away. going to practice that reassuring talk today. thanks again!
You are very welcome.
Thank you Dan I needed to hear that today :)
Happy to help!
I WISH DAN WOULD ADDRESS WHAT DR. SARNO CALLS EQUIVALENTS TO PHYSICAL PAIN THAT ARE DEPRESSION, ANXIETY, OCD FEAR. WHEN PHYSICAL SYMPTOMS ARE NOT THE FOCUS FOR DISTRACTION BUT THE MENTAL ONES ARE COULD YOU GIVE SOME POINTERS IN HOW TO DEAL WHEN THESE ARISE?
I'll see what I can do.
Think Alan Gordon at USC takes "indifference" to the next level, to an attitude of "outcome independence" to your pain.
I speak of outcome independence but that is slightly different. Outcome independence means you will do a certain practice without needing an outcome. Indifference is literally showing no concern whether you have pain or not. They are similar but different things.
Thanks 🙏
I find your videos so uplifting.
I found this so helpful. I got a lot out of the descriptions for #2 and 3!
Glad it helped!
Sehr hilfreich, vielen Dank Dan!
oooooh!!! i LOVED that example of the dog!!! you know how much i love animals so THAT example just made the whole thing CLICK into place!!!
my husband got angry at me yesterday and I'm in pain, so i will go love myself up like a puppy! :)
wait, how do you suggest I do that? with my thoughts alone?
Sure - imagine it. Or hug yourself and caress your shoulder. Anything that makes you feel safer is good. :-)
Cheers Dan. One of those days for me!
I get it.
i needed to hear this today! thanks for your hard work!
You are so welcome!
Very helpful, thank you
You're welcome!
What an absolutely fabulous video. Thank you so much.
You are so welcome!
Thank you
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I feel like I go through waves. Some days I have breath through the pain and distract myself. However if I dont sleep well , or some days just get sick of being like this and once I freak out it sets me back a few days. I just need more strength to be able to go longer.
Literally me some days I totally get it but when I start missing sleep cause of it I start getting super frustrated. And I guess that fires up my nerves morw
I understand completely. Breathe - you'll get there.
@@PainFreeYou yeah it’s the burning tingling pins and needles and twitching nerves for me.. I actually had two awesome years but this year it went all south and it’s crazy that it’s worse when I’m home alone.. usually out and about and on my walks it’s almost gone. Just hate it so much cause sometimes clothes burn on skin too and can’t sleep cause of it
@@DHRUVISM2016 The great news is that you being fine when out and about is 100000% proof it's TMS and can be turned off. Tomorrows video will simplify things for you.
@@PainFreeYou thanks Dan, last two years working out was my savior it was like I would enter the gym lift weights and do things and pain/sensations would vanish slowly this year somehow maybe cause of tooo much reading and diving into TMS and anxiety or fear even gym doesn’t turn it off like it used to which makes me frustrated cause working out has always been my thing and love being fit since I’m an actor in LA. I’m starting to understand that TMS can be watered down to just being anxiety? It’s the anxiety about work life stress and mainly the sensations themselves that keeps this cycle going? Also doesn’t help that I picked up on a bunch of conditioned responses to different clothes took a year to knock em down with my PT got comfy in eveything and then 2020 and boom all fear of different clothing’s are back 😩
When it happens to me my body freezes: fatigue yawning very sleepy to be unfunctionnal , heavy heavy muscle ( and im an athlete I Love mooving…..)
Been calming my ns
Emotional work
Fear work
Ignore push through
Not working…. Ideas?
Dose this program work for viral illness?
This program is not a medical treatment to cure a viral infection. However, many symptoms are blamed on a prior virus incorrectly. The best bet is to evaluate your symptoms and see if they fit into the classification of TMS. I have two assessments on my start page that will help you figure out if this approach will help you or not. www.PainFreeYou.com/start - if it indicates TMS, then you can get well.
Can focal dystonia be a symptom of TMS? Cheers
Yes, it can be. Take the pain test relating to this symptom to see if TMS fits for you. DanBuglio.com/paintest
@@PainFreeYou have you treated other with focal dystonia?
@@simontai1 Not personally, however focal dystonia is just a medical label for twitches. Twitching, burning, tingling, numbness, pain, weakness are all very common symptoms of TMS. What was your score on the pain test?
@@simontai1 Keep in mind, I am not a doctor, so I don't "treat" anyone. I study and educate people on how TMS works. I don't offer medical advice, but show people a way for them to determine for themselves if this mindbody reason for symptoms applies to them and if so, show them a way to eliminate the symptoms. But again, I don't treat anyone. I consider myself an educator and coach.
@@PainFreeYou my score was 31 as I suffer from facial pain. Many of my colleagues in classic music have TMS pain but are misdiagnosed as an injury. My colleagues are the ones who have the Dystonia. I will suggest they take your test! I see copycat symptoms amongst like instrument players due to what I believe makes sense for the brain to believe.
No hablas español Dan ?
No hablas espanol. You can translate the captions. czcams.com/video/U-RrHRdcUi4/video.html
The new one is dizzy.
Dizziness is still a TMS symptom. Same approach should work. czcams.com/video/5SsKnAgAvnY/video.html
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Such stupid ideas :))
Anything you would suggest instead? How would you respond to chronic pain from TMS?
@@PainFreeYou Good question. In this question you say from something else.. In your video, in contrast, you begin saying from chronic pain … .. I find your videos and overall your facial expressions and smiles and ways of speaking naive and offensive … I have long term chronic pain but I don’t call it mind body pain . How I deal with it for 10 years? I have my personal ways. And with them I have done all my life independently and have become a tenured academic. But I would never give recommendations and especially such facial expressions to others minimising their pain ,like take it easy, breathe, etc. I would shut up my mouth and hold their hands and understand them than underestimating their situation and that their pain isn’t going to kill them etc! If pain did one thing to me was understanding everyone else and being more compassionate than judging them and making recommendations without knowing maybe their situation is something beyond my understanding and experiences. But obviously it hasn’t done to you.
No . Dr sarno saved my bf from back pain from years
@@shahilaghwhat's more compassionate than showing people a way to turn off the symptoms completely?
@@CuriousCattery what is more narcissistic than knowing you know better than others what is happening to someone?