I feel like he was already corrupted after the events of DOOM 2016 for unknown reasons,his mind was somehow when haywire when Doomslayer's mission is about collecting the "Orb" which he knows what it is,his actions blinded him to use the Artifact to become a Demon Maykr. This is probably just a theory but you get the idea.
I doubt that he couldn't kill him with a crucible sword. I think that by "I can't kill you" he means that either he is grateful that doomguy saved Mars from Hell and doesn't want to murder him, or Samuel doesn't want to kill him, because if something again goes wrong (as it had in the doom eternal) the doomguy will be the only chance to stop it. And Hayden was correct as always.
@White knight Well initially Jack isolated the angel because he was afraid she could lose control again and someone would take her away from him. During the events of the pre sequel he was consistenly brought to madness: his boss was being his boss, her ex tried to kill him without even trying to explain him why his idea of killing everybody on Pandora was not a good idea, Lilith and Roland went directly into the murder route without trying to understand a man who was clearly broken and needed someone who could listen to him, but they did it to any other sort of scum. And finally Lilith punched in his skull an ancient artifact which was giving him visions. Combine the last part with all that has happened to him and you'll see that this was the moment he could not go back; years passed and he did all the thing mentioned before and during the events of borderlands 2. He saw his daughter as an instrument but in his own twisted way he cared for her. Jack wasn't a villain but an antihero.
ngl, he found the Doom Fortress, Had Vega manage the statistics, upgrade his own Armor, craft the Doom Blade, and for the least took care of the First Hell Priest
Life decisions you'll regret: 1. Having kids 2. Taking a loan 3. Working a 9 to 5 job Why isn't betraying Doomguy here you ask? You won't live long enough to regret it.
Then: Doomguy: NO, YOU CAN'T TAKE THAT FROM ME I'LL KILL YOU Samuel: I'm not the villain in this story, I just do what I got to do Now: Samuel: YOU CAN'T JUST SHOOT A HOLE INTO THE SURFACE OF MARS!!!!! Doomguy: I'M NOT THE VILLAIN IN THIS STORY, I JUST DO WHAT I GOT TO DO
You need to get the person whose right after you in alphabetical order to have their quote be “the longer the icon of sin is on Earth, the stronger he becomes”
To be fair he's right, he wasnt the villain. Samuel is just a guy who got caught up in someone else's shit. (Olivia's plan to use the Argent energy to open the gates to Hell.) He was only using Hell's unlimited energy to help fuel research and to provide a clean source of power for Earth's technology. Obviously the UAC isn't full of saints but Hayden was somewhat a diamond in the rough. Cool guy I guess
You're right he isnt the villain, his work that he mentions is to prevent win in the hell invasion on Earth, he knew all along and without the cruicible Earth would have been completely exterminated when hell came
@@dsdy1205 the crucible contains the wrath souls and is a endless energy source of argent so not really, is just how the makrs where doing it that was unethical
Samuel Hayden was one of my favorite things in this game. Unbelievably badass. The lore texts about him that you find are insane, definitely worth a read.
THE USE OF ARGET ENERGY AND CREATING PORTALS THROUGH HELL HAS ALWAYS AND WILL ALWAYS GO WRONG, THINK SAMUEL, THINK, AFTER ALL THIS WHAT WILL YOU HAVE LEFT!? -... **Marauder enters the facility as he gets thrown into a portal**
When I first saw this I thought the crucible hilt was upside down. It just seems weird to have the bottom of it bigger than the top for a sword like that
@@Zixye I honestly didn't even think about the blade's weight. It's definitely a weird design, but it seems they fixed it to an extent in eternal. Btw your name is the best thing I've ever seen
@@bonbon3317 Though I don't really think it matters too much on the demonic crucible since it doesn't look that heavy regardless of how it's balanced. Bone is a pretty light material.
"You can't just, put a hole in mars!" *Puts a hole in Mars.* "You can't just, kill all the demons!" Doomguy: ... Translation: *" Y o u m u s t f e e l l i k e a r e a l d u m b a s s r i g h t n o w ."*
@@zlaxxi indeed. He is an awesome sountrack maker. He knows what music to use for a certain part of the game and he can control what you feel simply using his magic.
This track playing at the end is the remaster of E1M1 from Doom 1. Check out Mick Gordon's video on how he made this soundtrack and how he remastered this track so well.
I like how Hayden fully realizes that in betraying the Doom Slayer, the only chance he has is putting as much distance between him and the Slayer as possible, and then pray.
So we don’t really know what happened from this point till doom eternal starts. Maybe they will release single player content to show us how doom guy escaped hell and came back for Hayden?
There are clues, mostly the "junk" in the doom slayers room within the fortress. I think there are some items from the Kadingir Sanctum. It took him a few years to return to the mars base, because at that point Samuel was no longer there (otherwise Hayden wouldn't have made it back to earth). He raided whatever he pleased from the argent base and used it's teleporters to go and find where ever the FoD was(or maybe he raided it afterward, but there is a storage unit for an argent cell and the soul cube among other things at his work station).
>Theory Samuel never betrayed the Slayer. In fact, he helped him. He couldn't outright tell him who he really is (For reference search "Samuel Hayden and Samur Makyr") without the Khan knowing. I theorize that Samuel sent the Slayer back to his base.
@@shieldsxreflex idk if you mean the fortress of doom or Samuels base, but yes, he didn’t explicitly tell the slayer who he was, but did make it obvious by completely obsessing over himself and how holy he was. But the khan maykr was dead during the dlc so idrk
I personally liked this ending way more than Eternal, including the DLC's. The fact that we still haven't found out where Hayden sent the Slayer after DOOM 2016 is really disappointing.
Presumably back to Hell. I wonder if id had more backstory planned in another piece of media or something, or if the plan was always to have us speculate to fill in the blanks. If it was indeed Hell then we can imagine that he had those Night Sentinels' spirits and Vega's backup help him somehow to get from Hell to the Fortress of Doom.
Probably he send him back to argent D'nur, (Not the hell-ish part of the planet the centinel part) And there the slayer could get the fortress of doom.
He teleported the Slayer to the Fortress of Doom. Slayer used VEGA to get the fortress back online but it took a while. In the meantime Hayden got rekt on Earth.
Samuel in Doom 2016: "Im not the villian of this story" (Doom Eternal AG. DLC Spoiler alert!) Samuel in Doom Eternel Ancient Gods: Is litellary a final boss.
@@guilhermeroyama8842 Since you dont mind spoilers, here: Samuel Hayden is actually a Maykr Angel, named the Seraphim. At the end of the first mission, Haydens mind returns to his original Maykr body, and him and the Slayer seek out the fathers life orb to eliminate the demins from Urdak. However, The Doom Slayer (For a good reason) betrays Hayden aka Seraphim, and his body starts to become unstable and becomes Samur, the father’s loyal servant. Samur is the final boss of Ancient Gods Part 1.
I love that Hayden's speech sounds a little like the og Doom victory text, especially the first part: "You've won. It's over. You stopped the invasion and closed the portal. But it's come at a price..."
You've won, it's over. You stopped the invasion and closed the portal, but it's come at a price. Argent, Vega, this entire operation, you see I've watched you work, come to understand your motivation. You think the only way is to kill them all, leave nothing behind, and you may be right. But we can't just shut it all down, without Argent energy it will be worse. I don't expect you to agree. But with this, we can continue our work. I am not the villain in this story. I do what I do, because there is no choice. Our time is up. I can't kill you, but I won't have you standing in our way. Until we see each other again.
“You’ve won. It’s over. You stopped the invasion and closed the portal. But it’s come at a price; Argent, Vega.. This entire operation. You see i’ve watched you work. I’ve come to understand your motivation. You think the only way is to kill them all. Leave nothing behind, and you may be right, but we can’t just shut it all down. Without Argent Energy it will be worse. I don’t expect you to agree… But with this… We can continue our work. I am not the villain in this story… I do what I do, because there is no choice… Our time is up. I can’t kill you, but I won’t have you standing in our way. Until we see each other again.”
*returns to Earth to fight demons, but gets almost destroyed only to be saved by Slayer again* Samuel: The risk I took was calculated, but man am I suck at math.
I have no doubts that Samuel is a villan, but I can't help but respect his commitment, dude finds a world full of creatures and and energy beyond any human's understanding and decides he is gonna exoloit it like an oil well
Doom Slayer in Doom 2016: "Ok take it, but just so you know if anything goes wrong, I'm not cleaning your shit up" Doom Slayer in Doom Eternal: *Cleans his shit up* Doom Slayer
“I can’t kill you” I like how that can be taken in 2 ways. The literal way his he really can’t kill him no matter what he does to him And there is the other way where he know that if he kills him then there won’t be anyone to stop the Demons when they attack again
I gotta say I love where they have taken the doom story and how they have given us enough pieces through free dlc for the much older games to connect the original trilogy with the newest set of games and they just keep upping the anti and I love it so much
I like the idea that the “I won’t have you standing in our way.” And the “Until we see each other again.” Go hand in hand, like Hayden is saying that he won’t or can’t kill you until the next time they run into each other
Yeah but nobody want a game of a robot dude saying the same thing 500 time it's not doom if you are not the doom slayer or with the other soluscion it's a giant and looong flash back
Tbh, whatever happens between 2016 and Eternal probably isn't that interesting. I'd say the entire thing was just "Doomguy gets sent to hell, kills everything again, Finds and old sentinel portal that leads to the fortress of doom, gets it working, goes in and later receives an S.O.S of Earth because of the demon invasion"
Well he is immortal superhuman. By the begining of Doom Eternal, Doom guy had a space station and in good shape. Meanwhile Hayden tried to maintain his Argen project but being sabotaged by demons
I want to play at Samuel Hayden in Doom Eternal campaign DLC I want to see the backstory here and how he was destroyed as in half his body gone As well as being able to use the Demonic Crucible
Samuel: “I can’t kill you.”
Doomslayer: *”This one’s smart...”*
Doomslayer: " *but not smart enough* "
@@alexconn7473 procededs to collect his remaining half form the demon-infested HQ od UAC
When he said that I think he was being literal. He didnt mean he didnt want to get rid of him, he simply knows he isnt going to be able to.
I feel like he was already corrupted after the events of DOOM 2016 for unknown reasons,his mind was somehow when haywire when Doomslayer's mission is about collecting the "Orb" which he knows what it is,his actions blinded him to use the Artifact to become a Demon Maykr.
This is probably just a theory but you get the idea.
lmao
You know you're OP when the robot holding a demon lightsaber says he "can't kill you".
I doubt that he couldn't kill him with a crucible sword. I think that by "I can't kill you" he means that either he is grateful that doomguy saved Mars from Hell and doesn't want to murder him, or Samuel doesn't want to kill him, because if something again goes wrong (as it had in the doom eternal) the doomguy will be the only chance to stop it. And Hayden was correct as always.
@@ik2254 no doom guy is actually immortal. he can not be killed. he is actually a semi god now.
IK bro so ur saying he could’ve killed the doom slayer right there and if he did what would happen
@@12_eyes41 if slayer died, then the Earth would have been consumed by Khan Maykr later. Ok, not consumed but sacrificed
IK ok I understand that but could he kill the doom slayer is the question. Like with one slash with the crucible and he’s gone?
“I am not the villain in this story” a phrase never once said by somebody who wasn’t the villain.
handsome jack was a hero and good guy vault hunters where villian and bad guy
eric23443219091 Never played Borderlands, so I wouldn’t know.
You got it!
I mean, he really isn't since he brought the relic to stop the invasion of hell on earth,
@White knight Well initially Jack isolated the angel because he was afraid she could lose control again and someone would take her away from him. During the events of the pre sequel he was consistenly brought to madness: his boss was being his boss, her ex tried to kill him without even trying to explain him why his idea of killing everybody on Pandora was not a good idea, Lilith and Roland went directly into the murder route without trying to understand a man who was clearly broken and needed someone who could listen to him, but they did it to any other sort of scum. And finally Lilith punched in his skull an ancient artifact which was giving him visions. Combine the last part with all that has happened to him and you'll see that this was the moment he could not go back; years passed and he did all the thing mentioned before and during the events of borderlands 2. He saw his daughter as an instrument but in his own twisted way he cared for her. Jack wasn't a villain but an antihero.
Yeah. It's really less of a betrayal and more of a "I'm-giving-you-a-head-start" type of thing.
Luke Calum Lyonwrath underrated comment alert
Lmao true
ngl, he found the Doom Fortress, Had Vega manage the statistics, upgrade his own Armor, craft the Doom Blade, and for the least took care of the First Hell Priest
Yra
I was really hoping for a Samuel Hayden boss fight in doom eternal. I thought that you would get the crucible and like sword fight him or something.
Slayer: I will remember this
*1 game and half DLC later*
Slayer: Told you
Hey bro
@@tarvished you wanted!
*Dr.Bright released*
Im lost here
hail 001 just saying
@@alfredhernandez82 play the ancient god part 1 dlc
Remember when he told you can't put a hole in Mars? _Good times_
that sounds like a great equivalent to blowing up the ocean just like in borderlands 2
Or that time when he told you "this is gun not teleporter"? Good times
Or that time he told you that " *the longer the icon of sin is on the earth the stronger he will become* ." Good times
I like your name an pfp
Is tha GlaDOS
Samuel: *betrays doomguy*
Doomguy: so-
Samuel: so i have chosen death...
LMAOO
That's not a line in the game.
Ironically, not by doomguy
R3VOID can you just say “it’s a joke ,that you didn’t get” rather than being a douche right off the bat for Pete’s sake
well he did die
Life decisions you'll regret:
1. Having kids
2. Taking a loan
3. Working a 9 to 5 job
Why isn't betraying Doomguy here you ask? You won't live long enough to regret it.
Lol true
My god i didn't expect it!!xD
@deloreandmc85 lots of reasons
@deloreandmc85 money time sanity and many other reasons
This joke is temporary but I’m immortal
I wouldn't say Samuel betrayed the Doom slayer he just didn't want him on Mars so he sent him back to hell to fight even more Demons
@Boo Hoo but doomslayer would kind of be happy that he gets to kill more demons
He wasn't sent to hell. More like he was sent somewhere else and that was the satellite that VEGA controlled.
@Boo Hoo Nothing says he was sent to hell bruh
do we know where he sent him?
It’s a pie eating contest where the reward is more pie
Then:
Doomguy: NO, YOU CAN'T TAKE THAT FROM ME I'LL KILL YOU
Samuel: I'm not the villain in this story, I just do what I got to do
Now:
Samuel: YOU CAN'T JUST SHOOT A HOLE INTO THE SURFACE OF MARS!!!!!
Doomguy: I'M NOT THE VILLAIN IN THIS STORY, I JUST DO WHAT I GOT TO DO
This is a glorious comment.
How the turntables
Is it in doom eternal shooting surface of mars hmm you right 👍
TFS Piccolo: Did... did you just hold a grudge?
Time for a 666 like break
Play eternal and you will find out who hayden really is and he had a good reason to take the crucible from him
Thanks for saying that and not spoiling it
@@lucasgravelle3936 [insert major spoilers for doom eternal]
@Just Another Account *humanity powered by Argent with big mechas and gigantic BFGs* is kinda cool too...
@Drinker_Of_ Milk Doesnt Crucible generate Argent tho
@@ArchangeZ it uses the Souls of 3 wraiths who's souls regenerate
So it is an infinite source of energy
*”ALRIGHT THEN, BUDDY.”*
*”I’M GOING TO [REDACTED] YOURSELF.”*
"ALRIGHT THEN, BUDDY"
"I'M GOING TO SHIT YOURSELF"
that video brought me here in fact
@@spatchisthename9714 same
*lightsaber go sheung*
@@spatchisthename9714 me too
“I am not the villain in this story. I do what I do because there is no choice” that’s going to be my senior quote
Do it fellow Hayden
IF my collage does it.. I am doing it aswell
Just don’t start shooting up the school.
You need to get the person whose right after you in alphabetical order to have their quote be “the longer the icon of sin is on Earth, the stronger he becomes”
They're going to think you're a school shooter son...
To be fair he's right, he wasnt the villain.
Samuel is just a guy who got caught up in someone else's shit.
(Olivia's plan to use the Argent energy to open the gates to Hell.)
He was only using Hell's unlimited energy to help fuel research and to provide a clean source of power for Earth's technology.
Obviously the UAC isn't full of saints but Hayden was somewhat a diamond in the rough.
Cool guy I guess
after all he's the one that gave DS even more power, if he truly is the Seraphim
plus he uses the crucible to make mechs and without it humanity would be long gone
You're right he isnt the villain, his work that he mentions is to prevent win in the hell invasion on Earth, he knew all along and without the cruicible Earth would have been completely exterminated when hell came
I mean, until you realise the argent energy comes from the souls of the damned, which is, uhm, an ethical choice.
@@dsdy1205 the crucible contains the wrath souls and is a endless energy source of argent so not really, is just how the makrs where doing it that was unethical
Doomguy's revenge was making Samuel his Alexa
no that's why Samuel is ripped in half in doom eternal
@Sawyer Moiseshyn no not actually but perhaps
Meanwhile in Doom Eternal 2: Samuel becomes Samsung Sam.
@@justmiyalmao r/wooosh
no doomguy didn't kill samuel he's still alive and well his metal body just got damaged by demons attacking arc hq
I thought Samuel will say
"Did you got the sword?" "Good, that's one less loose end." and stab Doomguy.
The armor is impenetrable so that's not even gonna leave a mark. Also the guy is immortal, pissing him off is... not good for your well being
It's COD all over again
Ghost nd sandman🥺
@@nateg.7994 not sandman,roach
Long Ps I think you missed the point
The moment he was betrayed is the moment he decides to unleash hell in hell.
*You aint got No Repliees so im the First to Reply*
Beans.
Si
@@notexactlydoomslayer3611 beans
Hayden: "Until we meet again."
Doomslayer: "The wait won't be `Eternal'."
Heheheheh
Im sorry but this has to be the gayest comment I've ever seen before
@@CurmelRozlen how is that gay?
#file!
@@whatamidoing6833 it’s gay because he’s twelve and that’s the only insults children have.
"He scoured the Umbral Plains seeking vengeance against the Dark Lords who had wronged him"
that’s the end of Doom 64, not this game
that phrase ties into the BEGINNING of this game not the end
Cristobal Barrera yeah but it’s a double play
It’s the same thing almost
And those that tasted the bite of his sword, named him... the Doom slayer
@@riverin66 *HEAVY METAL INSENSITIVITYS*
Samuel Hayden was one of my favorite things in this game. Unbelievably badass. The lore texts about him that you find are insane, definitely worth a read.
honestly he is my body type
@@soupeternal3784 roasted urself 💀
@@Luka2000_ some how I don't remember asking
@@soupeternal3784 cope
@@Luka2000_ 🤡
“YOU HAVE TO TRUST TO BE BETRAYED. I NEVER DID.”
Love that quote
He took notes from Char.
Where did that quote come from?
@@theparrishshow9803 I believe that's from modern warfare 2 (the OG one not the 2022 one)
''I am not the villain in this story''
- guy who tought I couldn't blow a hole in the surface of mars
*"I am not the villian in this story. I do what I do beacuse there is no choice"*
I adore that quote
A few years later:
*SAM GIVE ME MY FUCKING LASER SWORD*
THE USE OF ARGET ENERGY AND CREATING PORTALS THROUGH HELL HAS ALWAYS AND WILL ALWAYS GO WRONG, THINK SAMUEL, THINK, AFTER ALL THIS WHAT WILL YOU HAVE LEFT!?
-...
**Marauder enters the facility as he gets thrown into a portal**
This was the closest someone got to defeating the doom slayer. And still being alive.
The fact that maykrs got to that point TWICE really says something **cocks shotgun** I will do what I will do because there is no choice
@@joachims4726 but they died and dam didn’t.
@@Cursedc23 yet
When he fully turns into Lovecraft's fever dream monster and we find him...bad things will happen
@@joachims4726 transfiguration, weirder than lovecraft honestly
If someone plays doom and doesn't even kill a single demon then quits the game.
Samuel: I cant kill you
Slayer: You're god damn right
When I first saw this I thought the crucible hilt was upside down. It just seems weird to have the bottom of it bigger than the top for a sword like that
Especially when the blade doesn't weigh anything, it's terribly balanced.
@@Zixye I honestly didn't even think about the blade's weight. It's definitely a weird design, but it seems they fixed it to an extent in eternal. Btw your name is the best thing I've ever seen
It’s too end them rightly
@@bonbon3317 Though I don't really think it matters too much on the demonic crucible since it doesn't look that heavy regardless of how it's balanced. Bone is a pretty light material.
@@a_makarov End the world rightly
"You can't just, put a hole in mars!"
*Puts a hole in Mars.*
"You can't just, kill all the demons!"
Doomguy: ...
Translation: *" Y o u m u s t f e e l l i k e a r e a l d u m b a s s r i g h t n o w ."*
Shoot*
This guy is a better Ultron than Ultron was
When you realize Samuel doesn’t actually say “Alright buddy, I’m going to sh*t yourself”
*My disappointment is immeasurable and my day is ruined*
Yes
That’s… why I’m here.
1:05 When you see kids making tiktoks so you slip bleach into their juice
Big Nimbus bruh moment
Lmao
Epic moment
Don't mined me...
Muahahah!!lol
every time doomguy enters a boss room
The boss: wait, why do I hear bos music?
Every time he encounters an enemy
More like, "Wait, this isn't my theme"
Wrong Video. Go To Doom Boss Videos
every time doomguy enters the comment section of a doom video: "Wait, what do I hear "wait, why do I hear boss music?""
The heavy metal in the background gave me instant chills
The brilliant soundtrack you say? Rip and Tear by Mick Gordon.
@@cxglxrcxkgxzxr I know. Mick is a god
@@zlaxxi indeed. He is an awesome sountrack maker. He knows what music to use for a certain part of the game and he can control what you feel simply using his magic.
This track playing at the end is the remaster of E1M1 from Doom 1. Check out Mick Gordon's video on how he made this soundtrack and how he remastered this track so well.
@@L3ON360Z i have listened to all his songs tho...
I like how Hayden fully realizes that in betraying the Doom Slayer, the only chance he has is putting as much distance between him and the Slayer as possible, and then pray.
You mean Hayden is scared that the Doom Slayer will go after him ????
Samuel Hayden 'The master of manipulation and adhesive about his own goals'
*What a badass, along with his voice its eargasmic*
bruh
So we don’t really know what happened from this point till doom eternal starts. Maybe they will release single player content to show us how doom guy escaped hell and came back for Hayden?
They never really said where Samuel sent the Doom Slayer. Just teleported somewhere where he can't interfere.
We came to get hayden when he was injured in doom eternal.
Hayden teleported Doom Slayer at some safe place with no enemies at all
Far away
There are clues, mostly the "junk" in the doom slayers room within the fortress. I think there are some items from the Kadingir Sanctum. It took him a few years to return to the mars base, because at that point Samuel was no longer there (otherwise Hayden wouldn't have made it back to earth). He raided whatever he pleased from the argent base and used it's teleporters to go and find where ever the FoD was(or maybe he raided it afterward, but there is a storage unit for an argent cell and the soul cube among other things at his work station).
Obviously somewhere to get a flying castle
>Theory
Samuel never betrayed the Slayer. In fact, he helped him. He couldn't outright tell him who he really is (For reference search "Samuel Hayden and Samur Makyr") without the Khan knowing. I theorize that Samuel sent the Slayer back to his base.
Probably sent him to a Sentinel world to find and commandeer a war ship. Allowing him to swiftly travel from one front to another.
Oh god i crave a clear connection between 2016 and eternal
how tf did you get it right
@@misskranky I haven't played the DLC yet but, is this what happened?
@@shieldsxreflex idk if you mean the fortress of doom or Samuels base, but yes, he didn’t explicitly tell the slayer who he was, but did make it obvious by completely obsessing over himself and how holy he was. But the khan maykr was dead during the dlc so idrk
I personally liked this ending way more than Eternal, including the DLC's. The fact that we still haven't found out where Hayden sent the Slayer after DOOM 2016 is really disappointing.
Presumably back to Hell. I wonder if id had more backstory planned in another piece of media or something, or if the plan was always to have us speculate to fill in the blanks. If it was indeed Hell then we can imagine that he had those Night Sentinels' spirits and Vega's backup help him somehow to get from Hell to the Fortress of Doom.
dude eternal's ending was dope af, him killing the icon of sin and slowly walking away as "at doom's gate" plays
Probably he send him back to argent D'nur, (Not the hell-ish part of the planet the centinel part) And there the slayer could get the fortress of doom.
He teleported the Slayer to the Fortress of Doom. Slayer used VEGA to get the fortress back online but it took a while. In the meantime Hayden got rekt on Earth.
Samuel in Doom 2016:
"Im not the villian of this story"
(Doom Eternal AG. DLC Spoiler alert!)
Samuel in Doom Eternel Ancient Gods:
Is litellary a final boss.
Why did you have to spoil a game that was released just 2 weeks ago
@@onutrof1157 I kinda realised it just now.
@@fun-epersonnproductions4002 Respect for editing the comment tho. Some people wouldn't even do that.
I don't mind spoilers.
What happens to Hayden in Ancient Gods?
@@guilhermeroyama8842 Since you dont mind spoilers, here:
Samuel Hayden is actually a Maykr Angel, named the Seraphim. At the end of the first mission, Haydens mind returns to his original Maykr body, and him and the Slayer seek out the fathers life orb to eliminate the demins from Urdak. However, The Doom Slayer (For a good reason) betrays Hayden aka Seraphim, and his body starts to become unstable and becomes Samur, the father’s loyal servant. Samur is the final boss of Ancient Gods Part 1.
I don't think it was a betrayal, it was more of a "hey, you have something that I need" moment.
0:49 "New Objective : Shut it all down!"
Lolololol
I really preferred this Hayden to where they went with the character in Eternal. They clearly changed their mind about what they wanted him to be.
I love that Hayden's speech sounds a little like the og Doom victory text, especially the first part: "You've won. It's over. You stopped the invasion and closed the portal. But it's come at a price..."
You've won, it's over.
You stopped the invasion and closed the portal, but it's come at a price.
Argent, Vega, this entire operation, you see I've watched you work, come to understand your motivation.
You think the only way is to kill them all, leave nothing behind, and you may be right.
But we can't just shut it all down, without Argent energy it will be worse. I don't expect you to agree.
But with this, we can continue our work.
I am not the villain in this story. I do what I do, because there is no choice.
Our time is up. I can't kill you, but I won't have you standing in our way.
Until we see each other again.
“You’ve won. It’s over. You stopped the invasion and closed the portal. But it’s come at a price; Argent, Vega.. This entire operation. You see i’ve watched you work. I’ve come to understand your motivation. You think the only way is to kill them all. Leave nothing behind, and you may be right, but we can’t just shut it all down. Without Argent Energy it will be worse. I don’t expect you to agree… But with this… We can continue our work. I am not the villain in this story… I do what I do, because there is no choice… Our time is up. I can’t kill you, but I won’t have you standing in our way. Until we see each other again.”
Love how he ignites the demon sword
crucible*
Demonic Crucible
@@teimopukki4783 laser sword*
“Every man who must say 'I am not the villain' is the true villain in this story.“ - Tywin Lannister
Little did we know, Samuel Hayden is the seraphim after all.
Really?
Wasn't the seraphim part of the makyr species?
Gonzalo ET Vega says that Samuel’s suit is similar to Makyr tech.
Theory, it's not confirmed yet
ThefinalLPer It says his tech is similar to the fortress of doom which is maykr and sentinel tech
Samur Makyr
"I am not the villain of this story" without a doubt one of the best lines in Doom 2016
Doom 2016: "I am not the villian in this story"
Doom Eternal Ancient Gods:
Final Boss: Dr.Samuel Hayden
Honestly this has to be one of the best ending/cliffhangers in video game history what an amazing remake
Samuel: I can’t kill you
Checkpoint: sweats prefusely
“I am not the villain in this story. I do what I do because there is no choice” sounds like something a villain would say
“I am not the villain of this story”
No, but you will be a boss fight next game.
*returns to Earth to fight demons, but gets almost destroyed only to be saved by Slayer again*
Samuel: The risk I took was calculated, but man am I suck at math.
nice one lol.
hey atleast he told us where the hell priest was
@@davidsplooge14 that was vega, and yes vega is created by hayden, but he is not hayden.
I can't watch this now without thinking: "I'm going to shit yourself"
Same
same
"I am not the villain in this story" - The great Samuel Hayden
Samuel: I can’t kill you
Doom slayer: You couldn’t even if you tried
Just here a year later to let everyone know that this guy is voiced by a very kind man in his late 50’s
Sammy: *betrays doom guy*
Sammy: *gets ripped in half*
The betrayaer: first time?
I have no doubts that Samuel is a villan, but I can't help but respect his commitment, dude finds a world full of creatures and and energy beyond any human's understanding and decides he is gonna exoloit it like an oil well
Like a true american
Average people: THIS IS THE SCENE OF BETRAYAL!!!!
Men: "I'm going to sh*t yourself" 💀
Hayden might not be the villain in this story. But he will be in another.
When we saw Doomguy's hands shake at 1:35 I thought he was gonna bust outta there and rip Samuel in half.
You cannot betray Doom slayer;
you simply sign your own death warrant.
i love it how he did this after he saw all of what you are capable of. this guy has got a death wish
Doom Slayer in Doom 2016: "Ok take it, but just so you know if anything goes wrong, I'm not cleaning your shit up"
Doom Slayer in Doom Eternal: *Cleans his shit up*
Doom Slayer
“I can’t kill you”
I like how that can be taken in 2 ways.
The literal way his he really can’t kill him no matter what he does to him
And there is the other way where he know that if he kills him then there won’t be anyone to stop the Demons when they attack again
I gotta say I love where they have taken the doom story and how they have given us enough pieces through free dlc for the much older games to connect the original trilogy with the newest set of games and they just keep upping the anti and I love it so much
0:47 Optimus Prime
It’s such a shame that they did absolutely nothing with this legendary cliffhanger. Completely ruined Hayden
Agreed :'(
"I am a bot and this action was peformed automatically" - this guy probably
Anyone else watched this after: “IM GOING TO SHIT YOURSELF!”
To the common man, being sent to hell was the worst thing Hayden could do to anyone normal. But to Doomguy, it was paradise.
The fact that the ending was the betrayal what a great way to end a game
I like the idea that the “I won’t have you standing in our way.” And the “Until we see each other again.” Go hand in hand, like Hayden is saying that he won’t or can’t kill you until the next time they run into each other
Samuel: Until we see each other again
*4 years later*
Slayer: Hello again
Is it just me, or does the crucible hilt seem upside down when Hayden activates the sword? That always bothered me.
I saw the same thing
That's what I thought too
*Doom guy gets betrayed*
Doom Guy: First time?
the ending of DOOM 2016 was S+ TIER
Samual: YOU CANNOT JUST SHOOT A HOLE THROUGH THE SURFACE OF MARS!
Samuel Hayden’s voice sounds awesome. Always loved it since I started DOOM 2016
Technically, the Doomguy was spitting in Samuel's face the entire game, why wouldn't he betray him? lol
Hayden also was spitting on doomguy's face, so i guess it's fair.
This lightsaber will make a fine addition to my collection.
I like how the opening to his monologue reads like an intermission from the original doom.
Really wish to know what actually happened after this. Eternal kinda just skips everything
Yeah but nobody want a game of a robot dude saying the same thing 500 time it's not doom if you are not the doom slayer or with the other soluscion it's a giant and looong flash back
@@frog4880 i mean... i would have liked that...
he prolly sent him to the Fortress of Doom
Tbh, whatever happens between 2016 and Eternal probably isn't that interesting. I'd say the entire thing was just "Doomguy gets sent to hell, kills everything again, Finds and old sentinel portal that leads to the fortress of doom, gets it working, goes in and later receives an S.O.S of Earth because of the demon invasion"
"Robots don't make mistakes"
Also Robots:
There goes thousands of years of fighting demons in orther to protect earth from getting invaded.
I can't unsee samuel's thumb sticking out weirdly at 0:27
I think it looks menacing
How does doom guy come back from this in eternal? And get his new suit ?
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System Upgrades from Argent Energy I supposed.
If you go into the room will all his guitars and weapons and toy collectables you can see doom guy builds his own armour
Well he is immortal superhuman.
By the begining of Doom Eternal, Doom guy had a space station and in good shape. Meanwhile Hayden tried to maintain his Argen project but being sabotaged by demons
doom eternal starts i thing 8 mounths after doom 2016 so i guess i he made it or found it already meanwhile the two parts
*"I will shit yourself."* Bars bro 😔
"I only poopoo farted for the good of humanity."
-Samuel Hayden
His lines at the start remind me of the classic doom games intermissons which would basically say that you won and give a little story
I want to play at Samuel Hayden in Doom Eternal campaign DLC
I want to see the backstory here and how he was destroyed as in half his body gone
As well as being able to use the Demonic Crucible
That would be fire 🔥
I just love his voice so much
Doomguy: So what happened to wielding the sword-
Samuel: *Yes.*
Did you know the guy who voices Dr. Samuel Hayden also voices Revenant in Apex Legends and Reinhardt in Overwatch?
Me: so wheres the i'm going to shit yourself
me finding out there is none
me cries