Good demonstration, Gary. So many people I know need this. Understanding of tool control is lacking out there. Love that heartwood and sapwood contrast.
I only got about halfway through before I had to stop and send the link to my brother, a new turner. Wish to heck I'd had this when I first started. Thanks!
finally, someone says it. Riding the bevel may be the safest but its impractical. two thumbs up from me for actuslly showing what must be done not what should be done.
Thank you Chris. It is a term that can be taken the wrong way but is meant to be helpful. I think it is great that you understand the concept Take care, Gary
Hi Gary, Joe Stearns again. Thanks for the discussion on how to use and sharpen bowl gouges. I will RESHARPEN that blankety blank chisel and go back at it.
Thank you very much Carol I will have to turn some more of it soon. But it is still pretty green. I hope with all this cold weather it doesn't freeze and crack. It is under the pole shed and blocked from the wind. Thanks for watching. Gary
Thank you very much. Drying wood is not bad but I have a hard time getting excited about turning a piece after letting it sit. Even for a week. But it is one way to do it. Must be cold in MT. Today it was 35 here in Oregon. But it has warmed up. Take care, Gary
Thank you very much Valerie. As with most things it can be very confusing when first starting. You should have seen me the first time I used a computer. Had to get my kids to show me how to turn it on LOL Thanks for watching, Gary
Great information with wonderful explanations, Gary. You have a great way of explaining things, my friend. You should have been a teacher! Really enjoyed watching and hearing you explain everything! Thanks for sharing your wonderful talents, buddy! Take care, …..Gord
Thank you Gord. Now if someone could just teach me to put things away so I can use my work bench I would be happy. But that is not as much fun as playing with new toys LOL. I appreciate your comments and thanks for watching. Take care my friend, Gary
Thank you Skip. Stuart Batty was at a local club my former doctor belonged to. He invited me to come for a day long demo Stuart was put on. I did go home and ground a gouge to 40/40 and it does work great. Especially on green wood. I probably should have got it out as well. But I think the grinding part is a bit much for someone just starting out. I did work out some settings on the vari-grind that gets me close enough to the hand grind. Thanks for watching, Gary
@@ThePapa1947 A couple weeks ago I attended a 2-day class at my local club with Stuart. A wonderful and helpful class. I’m doing my grinding free hand and at 40/40 with good results.
Nice video Gary! I've been turning for 3 years now. I've learned a lot from your channel. I really appreciate everything you do. Thank you! Take care and GOD BLESS 🙏!
Thank you very much Tony. I just like getting to know the piece of wood as I turn it and then if I put it away to dry it just is not the same. Take care, Gary
Thank you very much Trey. Happy you enjoyed the video. This is how I do it and it works. Like I probably better ways and it never hurts to find what works the best for you. Thanks for watching. Gary
Good morning Iam a new turner I really enjoyed the way you showed how to hold the gouge.How to start it to the wood .I was starting off turning dry wood and had a lot of bad catches so know I am kind of scared of the whole process.I am not going to give up on this hobby I just need good advice and practice.Thanks for doing your videos.
Hi Ken, I would say the best thing to do is find some green wood(easy to do people cut trees down all the time) and practice practice practice till you get the feel for it. Best advice I can think of is get a feel for having the heal of the tool find the contact against the bowl and slowly bring the tip into it. Soon you you will get to the point where that move is microscopic and just a natural thing. On a side note I learned to turn on green kiln dried wood turning from small to very very large wood patterns at work. Hang in there and let me know if you have any more questions. Gary
You surely did a great job making this video Gary. Everything that's important is mentioned, I'm sure many people will find this useful and that includes myself. 😎
Good evening, Gary. We never stop learning. You covered bowl turning 101 very well. I like the drying box for a faster way of getting a bowl dry. Well done. By the way, two very nice bowls and the steps to get them that way. Excellent.
Thank you Ray, yes we are all on a learning journey I do my best to learn something new. Today I was helping someone with the same CAD program and I could not give a good answer. I did some research and found an easy way to do the task. I also am always looking for new ways to improve my wood turning. Thanks for watching my friend, Gary
Gary, I have to admit you are one of my favorite turners to watch as nothing seems to phase you, your instructions on turning technics are great, I try them often and they work out great. Thank you
Great job, Gary! Entertaining and instructional at the same time. I like to turn green, and then dry in the microwave. I get minimal shrinkage and warpage, and only occasionally have to do a final turning to round things out a bit. I, also use a computer fan to blow fresh, outside air into my facemask. I've got a quick disconnect at the mask end of the hose, so I could easily connect the hose to a drying box, and try your box-drying method. I'll let you know how that works. Thanks for the tips! (Note: this time of year I end up blowing sub-freezing, albeit dust-free, air into my mask. It can get a bit nippy with the wind-chill factor! Haha!) Take care, --Paul
Thank you Paul. I have never really tried the microwave so I can not speak for how it works. We recently got a new one and I was going to try the old one but we ended up donating it. What size of hose do you have going to your facemask? That sounds interesting except for the freezing weather.. That seems like it could steam up your face shield. What mask are you using to do this with? Take care, Gary
@@ThePapa1947 I picked up my microwave at a garage sale for 25 bucks. It's fairly big, so I can fit all but my biggest bowls into it. My fresh-air hose is about 1 1/2" inside diameter. It's corrugated outside and smooth inside. It's the type of hose used to install whole-house vacuum systems to replace lugging a vacuum cleaner from room to room. I bought a 50-foot length. One end is attached to a small box I built to house the 4" fan, located outside the shop door ; the other end is attached to an SCBA mask that was taken out of service from the local fire department. The mask is impact resistant for fire service use and protects from flying chips and sawdust. I wear is a little loose so that the steady stream of air keeps the mask from fogging. Search for "Paul Coffey Red Cedar burl" on CZcams for my one and only video. The mask and hose connection is clearly visible starting at about 3:10 when I step outside to turn on the fan. I hope this helps! Take care, --Paul
Thank You Gary... LOTS of important information and every movement you make when turning is all automatic with your muscle memory. Your explanations are all great and it all comes from a lifetime of practice. This is wonderful & valuable to know. To watch you work/explain is one thing but to do is a much different thing. I have always appreciated your openness to show all of us (me) your tricks. TM
I think that you have said in the past that you do not have any sponsors but I still get commercials is that just the nature of CZcams? Beautiful work, I really enjoy your channel please keep up the great work!!!
Thank you for sharing a bit of your knowledge with us Gary. Definitely a very informative presentation. Absolutely beautiful bowls! Also, great photo of the Oregon coast!
A pair of lovely bowls Gary, both turned out very nice! Thanks for the tutorial on sharpening and turning and I learned a lot from it and I also really like your drying box, very simple but effective, well done! Cheers Al
Amazing video. I have learned so much in just a short time from it. Being a relatively new turner, this has been a great way of upping my wood turning skills. More videos like this would be appreciated.
Thank you Dennis. All the best in your adventure in wood turning. Just remember to have fun and know that you will get better with every minute you spend at the lathe. Also there will always be something new to learn and I am always looking for something as well. Take care, Gary
Thank you very much. I have a video out there showing more about it. czcams.com/video/06n-BomEih8/video.html&ab_channel=ThePapa1947 Thanks for watching, Gary
so nice to see such experience going back to basics and taking time to go into detail. wonderful video, one of the best, most practical bowl tyrning videos ive seen - and ive seen a lot. bravo.
Great lesson tonight Gary! Thank you for everything in this video. I kind of wrestle with the old fashioned Craftsman gouges that came with my lathe - an old Craftsman lathe. I know they are old school, and sometimes hard to work with. You have showed how easy it is to get great results with good quality bowl gouges. I have seen them before in your videos, and I am more determined than ever to get a new gouge. Thank you for helping us all out to become better turners! Another fine lesson from ThePapa School of Turnin' Learnin'!
Thank you Mark. These gouges were Robert Sorby but I also have some Benjamin Best from Penn State Industries which are a pretty good price and they work good as well. When I started my wood pattern making apprenticeship many many years ago the shop had a very old Craftsman wood lathe. I made some really nice valve body patterns on it. We also had a very big pattern makers lathe that was shop built. The bed was made from huge timbers and the casting were made from patterns made in the shop. It was wide belt powered and had Babbitt bearings. So those old machines were just as capable as what we have today. Thanks for watching, Gary
So interesting Gary. Turning is very much a hobby for me but I have now purchased a 2hp lathe, twice the power of my first one and this video is very helpful so I thank you, once again, for sharing. All the best from the UK 🌞
Good stuff, Gary! Lots of valuable experience and information for new and seasoned turners. I do love that simple drying box and get asked how to dry wood quickly, often. I should probably make one, as well but for now, I can refer them to your video. The bowl(s) turned out great! Two methods, two beautiful specimens. Hard to go wrong with Black Walnut. As always a fun, easy to watch (lesson) video. Well done, professor! 😊 Phil
Thank you Phil. Even as quick as this boxed dries a twice turned bowl I really do not like doing them that much. I am sure you feel the same. You get going on a shape and then all of a sudden you stop and put it away. But plenty want to see how it is done so I figured I would put the cardboard box to work. And I do think the twice turned one came out nicer than the one turned thin. I guess if I was into selling I would get a bigger box and get serious about it. Thanks for watching my friend, Gary
Hey Gary, Nice video, very informative and I love the bowls. I dont do twice turned bowls for 2 reasons. 1. Like you I dont want to wait. and more importantly 2. This may sound silly but I try to make what the wood wants to be and if I dry it out then begin the wood has less chance to become what it ultimately wants to be. I see flaws of that sort as a natural thing. Nature is perfect in its own imperfect way which is why we love wooden pieces. The imperfections make the piece perfect. I had been turning using a set of carbides but as an early xmas present my girlfriend got me a set of Hurricane Cryogenic bowl gouges. That was so sweet of her considering at one point she wanted me to get rid of my lathe due to an injury I had on it. Of course now she loves the pieces I make. Anyway I am still learning to use the bowl gouges and this video was helpful. I find it difficult to keep the bowl gouge at my side while turning the inside of most bowls due to the lathe bed as you mentioned and now know that is normal. Thanks for the great video. Yall have a wonderful day.
Thank you Allyn. This Walnut is just amazing. I avoid doing twice turn bowls because of waiting and also for your reasons. If I put it away I will probably forget all the things that were going on and end up doing something different. I guess if a person was selling it would not matter. Turning in bulk most things end up looing the same. New gouges sound great. And for sure there are times you just can not keep the gouge against your hip at all times. I suppose I could move the head stock down to the tailstock end but really do not want to do that. Swivel heads are a good option but I had one and never rotated it. Thanks for watching, Gary
I agree with you. I'm not into twice turning...but I do it in occasion. They look great. I use a food dehydrator on 80 degrees F. Much better than waiting. Lots of great information here. Thank you.
Thank you Rick. It is an option and I do it now and then but the waiting is what I do not like. I have talked with others who use a food dehydrator and seem to get cracks. But they had the temp over 120 degrees. I like what you are saying about using 80 degrees and that does interest me. Thanks for mentioning the temp you use. Take care, Gary
Great video, Gary. Even us old timers can benefit from the kind of review you did. Picked up a few tis that I either didn't know or forgot! Beautiful bowls. I know you are not fond of a food dehydrator to dry bowls, but you ought to give one a try. A bit of a learning curve to prevent cracking but I use my often without cracking. Can dry a 30% moisture bowl to below 10% overnight, if you are careful.
Thank you Tom. Larry the wood turner really likes the dehydrator but he always seem to get cracks in the blanks. I think they probably work good but for sure you would need to dial things in to avoid any cracks. I know when thing I will not rough turn a bowl and then put it in a paper bag for 6 months. Because after 6 days I probably would not remember where I put it LOL. Maybe if I come across a dehydrator cheap at a yard sale I will give one a try. Thanks for watching, Gary
Gary, really enjoy your videos. Are there any tricks you use with your drying box with woods that are more susceptible to cracking when drying especially in a dry climate? Maybe change air flow or add sawdust to the box? Thanks
Thank you Dave, I think the biggest trick I have learned is not to use a heat source. The last time I tried drying Cherry I had 2 blanks crack. But Cherry tends to crack. I was using a lightbulb in the duct work. So I stopped with the little bit of heat and just let the air vent the moister out. I have also gone a little less than 10% for the thickness. Then of course it is a gamble but I did dry another blank of the Walnut the same size and it did fine. Hope that help, Gary
Thank you very much for this. I haven't started yet, I'm restoring my lathe before I start. You explained things I haven't seen elsewhere, esprcially controlling the cjisrl with the body.
When hollowing, do you ever put the lathe in reverse and cut from the far wall? (Note that the chuck must have a locking grub screw to keep it on the spindle!)
I have turned in reverse when I have something with a small opening and somewhat deep compared to the diameter. It is about the only way to see what your are doing.
I think learning videos are the best...!! How do you prevent cracking while drying especially in your drying box ...or is it a 50/50 thing...if you painted the concave part of your gouge it might be easier to see the angle that your holding it ?? Thanks for sharing...🖖
Thank you very much. It depends a lot on the wood you are drying. Fruit wood can be very tricky but I find Walnut pretty easy to dry without cracks. When you say painting the gouge are you thinking of when using it or showing it like I did here? As far as when using it I do not see that as helping because things can change while turning. Sometimes you may need to change the cut based on the grain of the wood or the height of the tool rest. Thanks for watching, Gary
@@ThePapa1947 on the painting I ment when your trying to show people how to hold it while turning...it would show the angle and when you turn it a bit ...the paint will show the position better...I think ?? 🖖
Hi Gary, great video. As a new turner do you have any advice on finding wood to use I can’t seem to find any dry wood and not sure where to go or who to ask about it. Any knowledge would be appreciated. Thanks
Hi, So dry would it much harder to find that wet wood. Watch places like Craigslist and Nextdoor if you have it. Sometimes people have chunks of wood they never burned and still in a round form. If not dry I would pick up wet wood and then cut it up into blank size so it will dry faster. Try turning some while it is still green. You can turn it thin and it might warm but less likely to crack. Or cut it to 10% of the diameter and seal the end grain and it will dry much faster than whole. You can also check out the poor mans drying box I made which works very well. Best of luck and let me know if you have any other questions. Gary
Thank you very much. Yes I ground it to be a negative rake scraper. Here is the one I was using: www.pennstateind.com/store/LX130.html Thanks for watching, Gary
Thank you Billy. What I was using here is the SuperNova 2. I have a few of those and I also have a few of the Nova G3 chucks. Thanks for watching, Gary
Thank you Gary. When you completely turn a wet bowl are you able to finish sand it at the time and apply the final finish or do you set it aside and wait for it to dry then perform the final sanding and finish?
So it usually sands nicely if I get it to 1/4" or below. I do like to wait a day or two to put the finish on. But some woods will allow me to put a finish on the same day. If not overnight in the drying box and it is ready. Thanks for watching, Gary
Thanks for all the info Gary. Both bowls came out great. I have a couple of questions on sharpening your standard grind gouge, do you free hand them just using the platform or do you use the Varigrind? If you use the Varigrind, what settings do you use? Thanks again for another informative video. Cheers, Tom
Thank you Tom. So for the standard grind I use the rest that the vari-grind fits in. It pulls way out. I put the handle in it and adjust the length to get the proper angle. You will hear people say not to do that and it was not meant for that use. But if that was the case it would not be as long as it is. The end I am grinding is way above center. If you had a gouge that was right on center of the stone I would say that is not a good thing to do. Some do it free hand on the platform which will work. Because of all the warnings and lack of understanding of the geometry involved I do not recommend it to anyone. Here is a link to the Oneway Wolverine Grinding Jig showing how they meant for it to be used. Again others argue Oneway did not mean it to be done that way.. Lack of understanding of the geometry involved is my guess. Or they tried to do it with the tip at center or below. I think the picture makes it very clear. Sorry about the rant but this gets me going. Gary www.google.com/search?q=oneway+grinding+syste%2C&rlz=1C1VDKB_enUS984US984&oq=oneway+grinding+syste%2C&aqs=chrome..69i57.14953j0j7&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8
@@ThePapa1947 I’ve see the Oneway adds depicting using the v-cup on the long arm to sharpen a roughing gouge, however, I just never though to use it on other gouges, but it make sense. It would allow for a very even “standard” grind on the tool. I’ll have to give it a try, I’ve been using the platform and trying to keep the tool inline while rolling it smoothly to get a good grind. Thanks for the helpful “rant”. 😉 Cheers, Tom
Hi Papa. I m so confused, I have to ask you: it is said that wood has to dry slowly to avoid cracks but you dried the bowl in just 10 days and it didn t cracked...?!? I seal green wood with glue and it never dry... Don t know what to do...thanks for any advice. Marino
Hi Marino, so if the wood is turned to an even wall thickness at 10% of the diameter it can dry in that amount of time in a drying box such as I made. If put in a paper bag with shavings it could take a month or 2. Walnut dries good without cracks most of the time. If I used heat with the fan it very well might crack. If you are talking about sealing it before you do a first turning then it will take a long time to dry. Also just seal the ends of the wood. Hope that helps, Gary
Hi Gary, Sorry to bother you again but when you turn your bowl wet and sand it do you leave the tenon on it while it continues to dry or do you turn it off? Just did a Red Elm bowl that was 36% moisture. Put it in a bag with shavings and brought it on the house since garage temperatures are just at freezing.
Hi Lee, if I plan on letting it sit for a few days and sand again then I leave the tenon on. Chances are it will have warped but running the lathe slow and using sheets of paper it sands pretty easily. Freezing is not good and I am afraid of the nice Walnut I have under my pole shed. It is not totally enclosed but the wind is blocked in most places. Hope this helped, Gary
@@ThePapa1947 Yes this helps. I have a couple small bowls of Red Elm turned wet to finish that I have left in shavings but out in the garage. It will be interesting to see how they dry differently being in a much colder ambient temperature than indoors.
Depending on how thin they are I do not put them in shavings. As a matter those I do not put in a bag at all. I think room temperature would be fine. But should be fine in the colder temperatures as well.
@@ThePapa1947 Well I have several so will try out the different techniques, what I learn during the winter months may not be applicable to the warmer months, it’s an adventure and not a drudgery.
Hi Ben, no I never have tried the microwave. We recently bought a new one and I thought about trying the old one be we donated it. I have heard a lot of stories about cracks and would just assume avoid that. Have you used one and have you had good success in doing so? Thanks for watching, Gary
@@ThePapa1947 yes I’ve done it a few times. I think if you’re good about wall thicknesses and stuff it’s a reasonable alternative. It doesn’t mess up the microwave or smell bad. At least not cherry or mulberry!There’s some videos on it you could check out, but basically I do it for like a minute on 50% power then let it air out for a couple minutes until it cools off. Over and over and over and over lol. I’d watch a video and double check my numbers, but that’s the basic idea. You can use a scale and basically do it until it stops losing weight, or it’s weight loss rate greatly slows down. I don’t have a moisture meter… but that’s it. If you’re home and around anyway it’s not too obtrusive to your day.
Nice tutorial Gary. I always learn a little something watching this style of video. When you said you used a bigger chuck for the initial wet turning, do you mean an overall bigger chuck or is just bigger jaws on a different chuck? Interesting point about the grind angle too. I had no idea that it might be measured from different sides. Thanks again! Cheers, Rick
Thank you Rick. It was just bigger jaws on a different chuck of the same size I usually use. I do have a couple of the smaller chucks though. Happy you enjoyed the video. Take care, Gary
When you held both bowls in front of you, in my head I heard Gene Wilder, saying "What Knockers!"
Those are some beautiful bowls!
Thank you Amy LOL..funny thing I saw that in the view finder and had to keep from laughing.
Take care,
Gary
I like the way those turned out. They remind of the brown and white cows my uncle had on his farm.
Thank you Tim. My wife grew up on a farm as well. She mentioned that as well.
Thanks for watching,
Gary
Good demonstration, Gary. So many people I know need this. Understanding of tool control is lacking out there. Love that heartwood and sapwood contrast.
Thank you Jay. For sure the contrast in the Black Walnut is the best.
Thanks for watching,
Gary
Thanks for sharing. Your tips on dry vs wet was very insightful. Each time you put out a video I learn something new. Thanks again . Be well
Thank you very much Linda and thanks for watching.
Gary
I only got about halfway through before I had to stop and send the link to my brother, a new turner. Wish to heck I'd had this when I first started. Thanks!
Thank you very much Michael. I appreciate you watching and for your very kind comment.
Take care,
Gary
finally, someone says it. Riding the bevel may be the safest but its impractical. two thumbs up from me for actuslly showing what must be done not what should be done.
Thank you Chris. It is a term that can be taken the wrong way but is meant to be helpful. I think it is great that you understand the concept
Take care,
Gary
Hi Gary, Joe Stearns again. Thanks for the discussion on how to use and sharpen bowl gouges. I will RESHARPEN that blankety blank chisel and go back at it.
Hi Joe., get it as sharp as you can and you will love it.
Take care,
Gary
WOW gary that black walnut is so so beautiful. and thank u for showing us the way u use bowl gauge.
Thank you Manjit! Ever since the new CZcams names I am not sure who is commenting. You can change it to use your name if you like.
Gary beautiful as usual. Thank you for the lessons on using the bowl Guage. I really liked the video can never stop learning. Thanks again
Thank you Chris and thanks for watching.
Gary
U also have a Hugh heart to show ur skills to everyone.
Thanks so much Manjit!
Yes Gary, two beautiful bowls. Well done.
Thank you Jack and thanks for watching,
Gary
Another great project -- or two -- and a helpful tutorial, as well. Thanks!
Thanks so much Jerry.
Take care,
Gary
Thanks for sharing your experience! Great advise on drying the green wood. Wonderful bowl project. Thanks, Gary!
Thank you very much and thanks for watching,
Gary
Wonderful workmanship on both pieces. I will have to make a drying box soon.
Thank you Chris. I have had good luck with the drying box.
Thanks for watching.
Gary
Thanks, Gary...gorgeous bowls...lots of info to use in turning!
Thank you very much Carol I will have to turn some more of it soon. But it is still pretty green.
I hope with all this cold weather it doesn't freeze and crack. It is under the pole shed and blocked from the wind.
Thanks for watching.
Gary
Great video Gary . And thanks for sharing your tips . Boy wow ! Those bowls are beautiful !
Thank you very much Jon. Oh yes this is some beautiful Black Walnut.
Take care,
Gary
Nice pieces of walnut Gary. Love your novel and clever drying box. I have to work on my patience with twice turning and drying! Cheers from MT
Thank you very much. Drying wood is not bad but I have a hard time getting excited about turning a piece after letting it sit. Even for a week. But it is one way to do it.
Must be cold in MT. Today it was 35 here in Oregon. But it has warmed up.
Take care,
Gary
Excellent video. Lots of good info. Good looking bowl. Keep 'em coming
Thanks so much Qapla and thanks for watching.
Gary
Fantastic tutorial Gary.
Both bowls look amazing.
Take care my friend.
Hwyl, Huw
Thank you very much Huw. The Walnut is just beautiful for sure.
Take care.
Hwyl,
Gary
Good video with lots of good information. ... and those bowls turned out great.
Thank you very much Mark I appreciate you watching and commenting.
Gary
Pretty black walnut blanks! Thanks for explaining about gouges. The beginners should get a lot out of this video.
Thank you very much Valerie. As with most things it can be very confusing when first starting. You should have seen me the first time I used a computer. Had to get my kids to show me how to turn it on LOL
Thanks for watching,
Gary
Thanks Gary. I always enjoy your videos.
Thank you very much Rodney. Happy you enjoy my videos.
Take care,
Gary
Thanks Gary for occasionally bringing back the fundamentals. I always learn something new while watching you turn.
Thank you very much Doug. Happy you enjoyed the video and thanks for watching.
Gary
Thank you for sharing your knowledge, that's what I like hands on practical work,.Ernie smith from brisbane Australia
Thank you very much Ernie, happy you enjoyed the video.
Take care,
Gary
Enjoyed the video Gary and the Bowls look Awesome! 👍
Thank you Kimsey and thanks for watching.
Gary
Gary THANK YOU just the information I need as a beginner again thank you. 😊
Thank you very much Bobby. Happy you enjoyed the video.
Take care,
Gary
Great information with wonderful explanations, Gary. You have a great way of explaining things, my friend. You should have been a teacher! Really enjoyed watching and hearing you explain everything! Thanks for sharing your wonderful talents, buddy!
Take care,
…..Gord
Thank you Gord. Now if someone could just teach me to put things away so I can use my work bench I would be happy. But that is not as much fun as playing with new toys LOL.
I appreciate your comments and thanks for watching.
Take care my friend,
Gary
Very informative - gouge info as well as comparison of once-turned vs. twice-turned
Thank you very much Jim. Happy you enjoyed the video.
Gary
Gary, great video as always. Good review stuff for me and I'll forward the link to a couple of newbies I know.
Thanks so much Josh. I appreciate your comment and thanks for watching.
Take care,
Gary
Great instructional video for beginners.
Thank you very much Rick!
Great video Gary , tons of info here, thanks for sharing your knowledge!!
Thank you very much Bruce. I figured it was time to make the video as I was asked a number of times.
Take care,
Gary
Great instruction and really nice bowl. Well done and thx.
Thank you very much and thanks for watching,
Gary
Gary, good information. Green is nice to work with. I use a 40/40 grind and it works for me. Like you said you have a couple amazing bowls.👍
Thank you Skip. Stuart Batty was at a local club my former doctor belonged to. He invited me to come for a day long demo Stuart was put on. I did go home and ground a gouge to 40/40 and it does work great. Especially on green wood. I probably should have got it out as well. But I think the grinding part is a bit much for someone just starting out.
I did work out some settings on the vari-grind that gets me close enough to the hand grind.
Thanks for watching,
Gary
@@ThePapa1947 A couple weeks ago I attended a 2-day class at my local club with Stuart. A wonderful and helpful class. I’m doing my grinding free hand and at 40/40 with good results.
Well, Gary, this has been one of the most informative woodburning videos I have watched. Thanks for your exceptional effort.
Wow thank you very much James. Happy you enjoyed the video.
Take care,
Gary
Très jolie pièce Gary et bonne vidéo bravo 👍👏👍👏👋
Merci beaucoup Denis et merci d'avoir regardé,
Gary
Nice video Gary! I've been turning for 3 years now. I've learned a lot from your channel. I really appreciate everything you do. Thank you! Take care and GOD BLESS 🙏!
Thank you very much Stephen! I appreciate your comments and thanks for watching.
God bless,
Gary
Well done Gary.
Thank you Doug!
BEAUTIFUL Gary, you know that I'm a great fan of your work.
Thank you very much Ron. I appreciate you watching and commenting.
Take care,
Gary
Thanks Gary I needed, thanks for sharing. I hate waiting on wood to also.
Thank you very much Tony. I just like getting to know the piece of wood as I turn it and then if I put it away to dry it just is not the same.
Take care,
Gary
Thanks Gary for taking time to do this video. As I continue to learn, I really appreciate all the knowledge you so willingly share.
Thank you very much Trey. Happy you enjoyed the video. This is how I do it and it works. Like I probably better ways and it never hurts to find what works the best for you.
Thanks for watching.
Gary
Very nice. I love the bowls. Thanks.
Thank you very much! And thanks for watching.
Gary
Good morning Iam a new turner I really enjoyed the way you showed how to hold the gouge.How to start it to the wood .I was starting off turning dry wood and had a lot of bad catches so know I am kind of scared of the whole process.I am not going to give up on this hobby I just need good advice and practice.Thanks for doing your videos.
Hi Ken, I would say the best thing to do is find some green wood(easy to do people cut trees down all the time) and practice practice practice till you get the feel for it.
Best advice I can think of is get a feel for having the heal of the tool find the contact against the bowl and slowly bring the tip into it.
Soon you you will get to the point where that move is microscopic and just a natural thing.
On a side note I learned to turn on green kiln dried wood turning from small to very very large wood patterns at work.
Hang in there and let me know if you have any more questions.
Gary
I think that in the next life I'd be grateful to get some woodturning lessons from you Gary! Might actually learn how to do it properly!!
Thank you very much Ray. There are many lessons I would like to get from you as well my friend,
Take care,
Gary
You surely did a great job making this video Gary.
Everything that's important is mentioned, I'm sure many people will find this useful and that includes myself. 😎
Thank you very much Leo. I appreciate the comment and thanks for watching.
Take care,
Gary
Awesome Gary 👍👍👍👍
Thank you radar!
Take care my friend,
Gary
Good evening, Gary.
We never stop learning. You covered bowl turning 101 very well. I like the drying box for a faster way of getting a bowl dry. Well done.
By the way, two very nice bowls and the steps to get them that way. Excellent.
Thank you Ray, yes we are all on a learning journey I do my best to learn something new. Today I was helping someone with the same CAD program and I could not give a good answer. I did some research and found an easy way to do the task.
I also am always looking for new ways to improve my wood turning.
Thanks for watching my friend,
Gary
Those came out beautiful, Gary!
Thank you Billy and thanks for watching,
Gary
Gary, I have to admit you are one of my favorite turners to watch as nothing seems to phase you, your instructions on turning technics are great, I try them often and they work out great. Thank you
Thank you very much Alan! I appreciate your kind words and thanks for watching,
Gary
Great job, Gary! Entertaining and instructional at the same time. I like to turn green, and then dry in the microwave. I get minimal shrinkage and warpage, and only occasionally have to do a final turning to round things out a bit. I, also use a computer fan to blow fresh, outside air into my facemask. I've got a quick disconnect at the mask end of the hose, so I could easily connect the hose to a drying box, and try your box-drying method. I'll let you know how that works. Thanks for the tips! (Note: this time of year I end up blowing sub-freezing, albeit dust-free, air into my mask. It can get a bit nippy with the wind-chill factor! Haha!)
Take care,
--Paul
Thank you Paul. I have never really tried the microwave so I can not speak for how it works. We recently got a new one and I was going to try the old one but we ended up donating it.
What size of hose do you have going to your facemask? That sounds interesting except for the freezing weather.. That seems like it could steam up your face shield. What mask are you using to do this with?
Take care,
Gary
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I picked up my microwave at a garage sale for 25 bucks. It's fairly big, so I can fit all but my biggest bowls into it.
My fresh-air hose is about 1 1/2" inside diameter. It's corrugated outside and smooth inside. It's the type of hose used to install whole-house vacuum systems to replace lugging a vacuum cleaner from room to room. I bought a 50-foot length. One end is attached to a small box I built to house the 4" fan, located outside the shop door ; the other end is attached to an SCBA mask that was taken out of service from the local fire department. The mask is impact resistant for fire service use and protects from flying chips and sawdust. I wear is a little loose so that the steady stream of air keeps the mask from fogging. Search for "Paul Coffey Red Cedar burl" on CZcams for my one and only video. The mask and hose connection is clearly visible starting at about 3:10 when I step outside to turn on the fan. I hope this helps!
Take care,
--Paul
Thank You Gary... LOTS of important information and every movement you make when turning is all automatic with your muscle memory. Your explanations are all great and it all comes from a lifetime of practice. This is wonderful & valuable to know. To watch you work/explain is one thing but to do is a much different thing. I have always appreciated your openness to show all of us (me) your tricks. TM
Thank you very much TM. I do love wood turning and like to see others enjoy it as well.
I appreciate your very kind words.
Take care my friend,
Gary
I think that you have said in the past that you do not have any sponsors but I still get commercials is that just the nature of CZcams?
Beautiful work, I really enjoy your channel please keep up the great work!!!
Very nice information about turning wet and dry wood 🤠 for beginners,
Take care my friend.
Thank you very much Sagar.
Take care,
Gary
Wonderful video, thanks.
Thank you very much Mark!
Take care,
Gary
Great info Gary, I just got my first gouges this will be helpful.
Thank you very much and thanks for watching. Have fun!
Gary
Thank you for sharing a bit of your knowledge with us Gary. Definitely a very informative presentation. Absolutely beautiful bowls! Also, great photo of the Oregon coast!
Thank you very much Zac. Happy you enjoyed the video and the Oregon coast.
Gary
Great job on the bowls, AND great info Gary! Thanks so much! 😊❤👍
Thank you Dave. Happy you enjoyed the video.
Gary
A pair of lovely bowls Gary, both turned out very nice! Thanks for the tutorial on sharpening and turning and I learned a lot from it and I also really like your drying box, very simple but effective, well done!
Cheers Al
Thank you very much Al. And another great thing about the drying box. It is CHEAP to make.
Thanks for watching,
Gary
Thanks for sharing Gary. I'm a twice turn bowl guy but some day I'll get around to trying segmented turning. You provide LOTS of inspiration!
Stuart
Thank you Stuart. I do enjoy the first part of a twice turned bowl. Nothing turns better than green wood.
Take care,
Gary
Amazing video. I have learned so much in just a short time from it. Being a relatively new turner, this has been a great way of upping my wood turning skills. More videos like this would be appreciated.
Thank you Dennis. All the best in your adventure in wood turning. Just remember to have fun and know that you will get better with every minute you spend at the lathe. Also there will always be something new to learn and I am always looking for something as well.
Take care,
Gary
You have a very good teaching style. Thanks for making these videos. They’re very helpful!
Thank you very much. I appreciate you watching and commenting.
Gary
Love your drying box 😊
Thank you very much. I have a video out there showing more about it.
czcams.com/video/06n-BomEih8/video.html&ab_channel=ThePapa1947
Thanks for watching,
Gary
so nice to see such experience going back to basics and taking time to go into detail. wonderful video, one of the best, most practical bowl tyrning videos ive seen - and ive seen a lot. bravo.
Well thank you very much Chris for those very kind words. They are much appreciated.
Gary
Great lesson thanks!
Thank you very much Ron!
well done
Thank you Mark!
Very nice, always great information. Awesome bowls. Keep them coming
Thank you very much Bob and thanks for watching,
Gary
Great lesson tonight Gary! Thank you for everything in this video. I kind of wrestle with the old fashioned Craftsman gouges that came with my lathe - an old Craftsman lathe. I know they are old school, and sometimes hard to work with. You have showed how easy it is to get great results with good quality bowl gouges. I have seen them before in your videos, and I am more determined than ever to get a new gouge. Thank you for helping us all out to become better turners! Another fine lesson from ThePapa School of Turnin' Learnin'!
Thank you Mark. These gouges were Robert Sorby but I also have some Benjamin Best from Penn State Industries which are a pretty good price and they work good as well.
When I started my wood pattern making apprenticeship many many years ago the shop had a very old Craftsman wood lathe. I made some really nice valve body patterns on it. We also had a very big pattern makers lathe that was shop built. The bed was made from huge timbers and the casting were made from patterns made in the shop. It was wide belt powered and had Babbitt bearings. So those old machines were just as capable as what we have today.
Thanks for watching,
Gary
So interesting Gary. Turning is very much a hobby for me but I have now purchased a 2hp lathe, twice the power of my first one and this video is very helpful so I thank you, once again, for sharing. All the best from the UK 🌞
Thank you Ray. Sounds like you got yourself a nice lathe with lots of power. Have fun using it.
Take care,
Gary
Very interesting, a lot to learn from you!!!
Thank you very much!
Neato!
Thank you very much.
l lean a lot watched you thank you
Thank you Delbert and thanks for watching.
Gary
Good stuff, Gary! Lots of valuable experience and information for new and seasoned turners. I do love that simple drying box and get asked how to dry wood quickly, often. I should probably make one, as well but for now, I can refer them to your video. The bowl(s) turned out great! Two methods, two beautiful specimens. Hard to go wrong with Black Walnut. As always a fun, easy to watch (lesson) video. Well done, professor! 😊
Phil
Thank you Phil. Even as quick as this boxed dries a twice turned bowl I really do not like doing them that much.
I am sure you feel the same. You get going on a shape and then all of a sudden you stop and put it away. But plenty want to see how it is done so I figured I would put the cardboard box to work. And I do think the twice turned one came out nicer than the one turned thin.
I guess if I was into selling I would get a bigger box and get serious about it.
Thanks for watching my friend,
Gary
Hey Gary, Nice video, very informative and I love the bowls. I dont do twice turned bowls for 2 reasons. 1. Like you I dont want to wait. and more importantly 2. This may sound silly but I try to make what the wood wants to be and if I dry it out then begin the wood has less chance to become what it ultimately wants to be. I see flaws of that sort as a natural thing. Nature is perfect in its own imperfect way which is why we love wooden pieces. The imperfections make the piece perfect. I had been turning using a set of carbides but as an early xmas present my girlfriend got me a set of Hurricane Cryogenic bowl gouges. That was so sweet of her considering at one point she wanted me to get rid of my lathe due to an injury I had on it. Of course now she loves the pieces I make. Anyway I am still learning to use the bowl gouges and this video was helpful. I find it difficult to keep the bowl gouge at my side while turning the inside of most bowls due to the lathe bed as you mentioned and now know that is normal. Thanks for the great video. Yall have a wonderful day.
Thank you Allyn. This Walnut is just amazing.
I avoid doing twice turn bowls because of waiting and also for your reasons. If I put it away I will probably forget all the things that were going on and end up doing something different. I guess if a person was selling it would not matter. Turning in bulk most things end up looing the same.
New gouges sound great. And for sure there are times you just can not keep the gouge against your hip at all times. I suppose I could move the head stock down to the tailstock end but really do not want to do that. Swivel heads are a good option but I had one and never rotated it.
Thanks for watching,
Gary
I agree with you. I'm not into twice turning...but I do it in occasion. They look great. I use a food dehydrator on 80 degrees F. Much better than waiting. Lots of great information here. Thank you.
Thank you Rick. It is an option and I do it now and then but the waiting is what I do not like.
I have talked with others who use a food dehydrator and seem to get cracks. But they had the temp over 120 degrees. I like what you are saying about using 80 degrees and that does interest me. Thanks for mentioning the temp you use.
Take care,
Gary
Great video, Gary. Even us old timers can benefit from the kind of review you did. Picked up a few tis that I either didn't know or forgot! Beautiful bowls. I know you are not fond of a food dehydrator to dry bowls, but you ought to give one a try. A bit of a learning curve to prevent cracking but I use my often without cracking. Can dry a 30% moisture bowl to below 10% overnight, if you are careful.
Thank you Tom. Larry the wood turner really likes the dehydrator but he always seem to get cracks in the blanks.
I think they probably work good but for sure you would need to dial things in to avoid any cracks. I know when thing I will not rough turn a bowl and then put it in a paper bag for 6 months. Because after 6 days I probably would not remember where I put it LOL.
Maybe if I come across a dehydrator cheap at a yard sale I will give one a try.
Thanks for watching,
Gary
Gary, really enjoy your videos. Are there any tricks you use with your drying box with woods that are more susceptible to cracking when drying especially in a dry climate? Maybe change air flow or add sawdust to the box? Thanks
Thank you Dave, I think the biggest trick I have learned is not to use a heat source. The last time I tried drying Cherry I had 2 blanks crack. But Cherry tends to crack. I was using a lightbulb in the duct work. So I stopped with the little bit of heat and just let the air vent the moister out. I have also gone a little less than 10% for the thickness.
Then of course it is a gamble but I did dry another blank of the Walnut the same size and it did fine.
Hope that help,
Gary
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Thank you Kapa!
Thank you very much for this. I haven't started yet, I'm restoring my lathe before I start. You explained things I haven't seen elsewhere, esprcially controlling the cjisrl with the body.
Thank you Doug and have fun when you get it going.
Gary
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Thank you Luie 😊
@@ThePapa1947 lots of good information in this post 😎
When hollowing, do you ever put the lathe in reverse and cut from the far wall? (Note that the chuck must have a locking grub screw to keep it on the spindle!)
I have turned in reverse when I have something with a small opening and somewhat deep compared to the diameter. It is about the only way to see what your are doing.
I think learning videos are the best...!! How do you prevent cracking while drying especially in your drying box ...or is it a 50/50 thing...if you painted the concave part of your gouge it might be easier to see the angle that your holding it ??
Thanks for sharing...🖖
Thank you very much. It depends a lot on the wood you are drying. Fruit wood can be very tricky but I find Walnut pretty easy to dry without cracks.
When you say painting the gouge are you thinking of when using it or showing it like I did here?
As far as when using it I do not see that as helping because things can change while turning. Sometimes you may need to change the cut based on the grain of the wood or the height of the tool rest.
Thanks for watching,
Gary
@@ThePapa1947 on the painting I ment when your trying to show people how to hold it while turning...it would show the angle and when you turn it a bit ...the paint will show the position better...I think ?? 🖖
Hi Gary, great video. As a new turner do you have any advice on finding wood to use I can’t seem to find any dry wood and not sure where to go or who to ask about it. Any knowledge would be appreciated. Thanks
Hi,
So dry would it much harder to find that wet wood. Watch places like Craigslist and Nextdoor if you have it.
Sometimes people have chunks of wood they never burned and still in a round form.
If not dry I would pick up wet wood and then cut it up into blank size so it will dry faster.
Try turning some while it is still green. You can turn it thin and it might warm but less likely to crack.
Or cut it to 10% of the diameter and seal the end grain and it will dry much faster than whole. You can also check out the poor mans drying box I made which works very well.
Best of luck and let me know if you have any other questions.
Gary
Nice tutorial, and good explanation. I am also interested in that huge negative rake scraper. What brand is it, end did you do the shaping yourself?
Thank you very much. Yes I ground it to be a negative rake scraper.
Here is the one I was using: www.pennstateind.com/store/LX130.html
Thanks for watching,
Gary
May I ask you what Chuck’s you have. I really enjoy your videos.
Thank you Billy. What I was using here is the SuperNova 2. I have a few of those and I also have a few of the Nova G3 chucks.
Thanks for watching,
Gary
Thank you Gary. When you completely turn a wet bowl are you able to finish sand it at the time and apply the final finish or do you set it aside and wait for it to dry then perform the final sanding and finish?
So it usually sands nicely if I get it to 1/4" or below. I do like to wait a day or two to put the finish on. But some woods will allow me to put a finish on the same day. If not overnight in the drying box and it is ready.
Thanks for watching,
Gary
@@ThePapa1947 Thank you
What make bowl gouges do you use. I really like your 5/8” fingernail bowl gouge.
Thank you James. That is a Robert Sorby bowl gouge. It does a good job.
Thanks for watching,
Gary
Thanks for all the info Gary. Both bowls came out great. I have a couple of questions on sharpening your standard grind gouge, do you free hand them just using the platform or do you use the Varigrind? If you use the Varigrind, what settings do you use? Thanks again for another informative video. Cheers, Tom
Thank you Tom. So for the standard grind I use the rest that the vari-grind fits in. It pulls way out. I put the handle in it and adjust the length to get the proper angle.
You will hear people say not to do that and it was not meant for that use. But if that was the case it would not be as long as it is.
The end I am grinding is way above center. If you had a gouge that was right on center of the stone I would say that is not a good thing to do.
Some do it free hand on the platform which will work.
Because of all the warnings and lack of understanding of the geometry involved I do not recommend it to anyone.
Here is a link to the Oneway Wolverine Grinding Jig showing how they meant for it to be used.
Again others argue Oneway did not mean it to be done that way.. Lack of understanding of the geometry involved is my guess.
Or they tried to do it with the tip at center or below.
I think the picture makes it very clear. Sorry about the rant but this gets me going.
Gary
www.google.com/search?q=oneway+grinding+syste%2C&rlz=1C1VDKB_enUS984US984&oq=oneway+grinding+syste%2C&aqs=chrome..69i57.14953j0j7&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8
@@ThePapa1947 I’ve see the Oneway adds depicting using the v-cup on the long arm to sharpen a roughing gouge, however, I just never though to use it on other gouges, but it make sense. It would allow for a very even “standard” grind on the tool. I’ll have to give it a try, I’ve been using the platform and trying to keep the tool inline while rolling it smoothly to get a good grind. Thanks for the helpful “rant”. 😉 Cheers, Tom
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Nice job Huw, I was still in bed when you left this comment LOL...not really
Would anchor seal have kept the bowl in shape?
I doubt it but it would help with the cracking that can happen.
And once it is turned thin it will do what it will do.
Thanks for watching,
Gary
Hi Papa. I m so confused, I have to ask you: it is said that wood has to dry slowly to avoid cracks but you dried the bowl in just 10 days and it didn t cracked...?!? I seal green wood with glue and it never dry... Don t know what to do...thanks for any advice. Marino
Hi Marino, so if the wood is turned to an even wall thickness at 10% of the diameter it can dry in that amount of time in a drying box such as I made. If put in a paper bag with shavings it could take a month or 2.
Walnut dries good without cracks most of the time.
If I used heat with the fan it very well might crack.
If you are talking about sealing it before you do a first turning then it will take a long time to dry. Also just seal the ends of the wood.
Hope that helps,
Gary
Hi Gary, Sorry to bother you again but when you turn your bowl wet and sand it do you leave the tenon on it while it continues to dry or do you turn it off? Just did a Red Elm bowl that was 36% moisture. Put it in a bag with shavings and brought it on the house since garage temperatures are just at freezing.
Hi Lee, if I plan on letting it sit for a few days and sand again then I leave the tenon on. Chances are it will have warped but running the lathe slow and using sheets of paper it sands pretty easily.
Freezing is not good and I am afraid of the nice Walnut I have under my pole shed. It is not totally enclosed but the wind is blocked in most places.
Hope this helped,
Gary
@@ThePapa1947 Yes this helps. I have a couple small bowls of Red Elm turned wet to finish that I have left in shavings but out in the garage. It will be interesting to see how they dry differently being in a much colder ambient temperature than indoors.
Depending on how thin they are I do not put them in shavings. As a matter those I do not put in a bag at all. I think room temperature would be fine. But should be fine in the colder temperatures as well.
@@ThePapa1947 Well I have several so will try out the different techniques, what I learn during the winter months may not be applicable to the warmer months, it’s an adventure and not a drudgery.
Ever use the microwave to dry a blank out?
Hi Ben, no I never have tried the microwave. We recently bought a new one and I thought about trying the old one be we donated it.
I have heard a lot of stories about cracks and would just assume avoid that.
Have you used one and have you had good success in doing so?
Thanks for watching,
Gary
@@ThePapa1947 yes I’ve done it a few times. I think if you’re good about wall thicknesses and stuff it’s a reasonable alternative. It doesn’t mess up the microwave or smell bad. At least not cherry or mulberry!There’s some videos on it you could check out, but basically I do it for like a minute on 50% power then let it air out for a couple minutes until it cools off. Over and over and over and over lol. I’d watch a video and double check my numbers, but that’s the basic idea. You can use a scale and basically do it until it stops losing weight, or it’s weight loss rate greatly slows down. I don’t have a moisture meter… but that’s it. If you’re home and around anyway it’s not too obtrusive to your day.
Nice tutorial Gary. I always learn a little something watching this style of video. When you said you used a bigger chuck for the initial wet turning, do you mean an overall bigger chuck or is just bigger jaws on a different chuck? Interesting point about the grind angle too. I had no idea that it might be measured from different sides. Thanks again! Cheers, Rick
Thank you Rick. It was just bigger jaws on a different chuck of the same size I usually use. I do have a couple of the smaller chucks though.
Happy you enjoyed the video.
Take care,
Gary
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Thanks...I guess
Nice teaching moments. All turners, new and experienced should be able to take something away from this.
Thank you very much. I appreciate you watching and commeniting.
Gary
...thanks for so many great tips...and the bowls came out great!...👍
Thank you very much and thanks for watching.
Gary