Tesla Cyberbulls: Debating the 🐂 Bull vs. 🐻 Bear Case for 2025

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  • čas přidán 9. 09. 2024

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  • @danunl
    @danunl Před měsícem +35

    I test drove a Tesla Model 3 last Saturday. I was blown away. I am buying one once my lease comes up in December.

    • @InvestAnswers
      @InvestAnswers  Před měsícem +9

      awesome, thanks for sharing.

    • @mattogrady4005
      @mattogrady4005 Před měsícem +2

      I own a Model 3, as a 53 year old skeptic and having owned a couple dozen cars and driven many dozen including friends and families BMWs and Mers this is by far the most enjoyable car Ive ever driven let alone owned! Its the best hands down.

  • @jerrycampbell-ut9yf
    @jerrycampbell-ut9yf Před 26 dny +116

    In both the short and long run, a bear and bullish market provides equal avenue to amass good gains I've seen people make 6figures profit as high as $200k in a bear market and I've seen them pull it off much easily in a bull market, it all comes down to having the right information and applying it.

    • @Peterl4290
      @Peterl4290 Před 26 dny +3

      well politicians for certain are gaining off the crash, and true the average individual could profit off a crash but such high-grade investing come with equal risk which can only be managed by a proper pro or expert.

    • @Aarrenrhonda3
      @Aarrenrhonda3 Před 26 dny +2

      No doubt, having the right plan is invaluable, my portfolio is well-matched for every season of the market and recently hit 100% rise from early last year. I and my CFP are working on a 7 figure ballpark goal, tho this could take till Q3 2024.

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      @sabastinenoah Před 26 dny +1

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    • @Aarrenrhonda3
      @Aarrenrhonda3 Před 26 dny

      Google Annette Christine Conte and do your own research. She has portfolio management down to a science

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      @sabastinenoah Před 26 dny +1

      I just googled her and I'm really impressed with her credentials; I reached out to her since l need all the assistance l can get. I just scheduled a caII.

  • @nokrekcom5377
    @nokrekcom5377 Před 11 dny +135

    JokerAI32x movement begins and everyone is like acting crazy. Let's bring it up!

  • @AR__GEMAR
    @AR__GEMAR Před 11 dny +129

    Can anyone explain JokerAI32x?

  • @lefthandedscrewdriver3954

    Jeff Lutz has some very good points

  • @suzigemini
    @suzigemini Před měsícem +16

    James you took a lot of heat for SOL--and you were right about it. I have faith in Tesla and you. I think the people mocking you or Tesla will NOT get the last laugh. Thank you and much love. PS May -July 2025 is my guess for Moon. ;) if not, that is fine with me too--I am patient.

  • @stevevandoom
    @stevevandoom Před měsícem +12

    So we all say the vehicles are only part of the Tesla story. But 80% of episode is cars.. I love to see the same effort to the other sides . A deeper dive into those segments.

    • @mattogrady4005
      @mattogrady4005 Před měsícem +1

      GREAT point!

    • @BrunoHeggli-zp3nl
      @BrunoHeggli-zp3nl Před měsícem

      One year before they talked about selling maybe 20 Million Cars in 2030, now Cars arent that importend anymore!!!Hahaha...what comes after robotaxis and FSD and Energy arent so importend anymore?Tesla fastfood?

  • @tdtesla
    @tdtesla Před měsícem +27

    We need the beach ball to escape from under the water James

  • @cb3ftw
    @cb3ftw Před měsícem +13

    The tesla model 3 lease is not 320 a month. I just leased the 2024 model 3 and it's about 400 when everything is said and done.

    • @flagdrones
      @flagdrones Před měsícem +1

      Good point and great choice, said and done is key so thanks for sharing. Cap cost equals price, LMF equals the rate on the depreciable portion and leasing is the way to go unless you drive heavy miles and/or keep your autos a long time. Enjoy your Model 3!

    • @citizenpunx
      @citizenpunx Před 29 dny

      How much down payment?

    • @cb3ftw
      @cb3ftw Před 29 dny +1

      @@citizenpunx it's about 4200. Car is amazing btw

  • @Bitcoinstheway
    @Bitcoinstheway Před měsícem +4

    Love James and Jeff’s insights, eye opening information , thank you 👍

  • @TheRaizerx
    @TheRaizerx Před měsícem +7

    These seems to be multiple discussions like this every year where the next year is the year everyone will appreciate TSLA and the stock will shoot up… TSLA will only shoot up when FSD or is solved or Energy replaces the auto business.Whenever that is.

    • @growthaddiction4275
      @growthaddiction4275 Před měsícem +4

      You still don’t get it. When rates are high, auto market struggles because it’s expensive to get financing for a car. If rates come down drastically, which is what the FED is going to do, then cars are more affordable. So demand goes way up like it was before rates shot up so high.
      Were you not listening? They literally talked about this on the live stream. And Tesla themselves is guiding for 50% production growth in 2025.
      As per Jeff, the factories have fixed costs. Therefore an increase in production means lower cost per vehicle which has an impact on margins and profitability aka what Wall Street cares about. Another boost on margins is the lower cost vehicles in 1st half of 2025.
      Lastly, with low rates it can bring up demand to a degree where you are forced to raise prices, further increasing margins and profitability.
      The point is that teslas car business is about to have a massive turn around where their margins go back up and the start becoming a lot more profitable.

  • @Making-coin
    @Making-coin Před měsícem +9

    LOVE YOUR SHOW

  • @petejames4672
    @petejames4672 Před měsícem +3

    James and others convinced me to buy tesla when it was £1200 , its gone down ever since , my own choice i know , but its hard believing... im still holding

    • @HUMC5
      @HUMC5 Před měsícem +1

      Don't fall in the hype trap. Now that it went down alot that's a good time. Buy low, sell high!

    • @BrunoHeggli-zp3nl
      @BrunoHeggli-zp3nl Před měsícem

      James is the Guy with the artificial eybrows who Looks like a Fortune Teller right?A master Bullshitter who perfected hes craft!I am realy impresst!

  • @chaotic_coder
    @chaotic_coder Před měsícem +5

    Great show!

  • @jesmondgauci8683
    @jesmondgauci8683 Před měsícem

    I love these conversations. You get to hear both sides that agree and disagree. Great show guys .

  • @deku3458
    @deku3458 Před měsícem +3

    Would love a new MSTR analysis sir!!

  • @macdavid20
    @macdavid20 Před měsícem +2

    Great show… but Elons on X is his own worst enemy. Inciting violence in UK is a stark example

  • @HBLW1975
    @HBLW1975 Před měsícem +1

    Private lease Tesla 3 from 2019 in the Netherlands cost at least EUR 650 per month (12.000km/year). New one much more expensive even..

  • @Dragonflydom
    @Dragonflydom Před 25 dny +1

    I agree with James. Elon needs a handler. Focus on being a CEO

  • @pg2692
    @pg2692 Před měsícem +3

    I have a few Tesla share, but presently wouldn’t consider purchasing a car, as all the technology you talk about isn’t usable in uk, with technology presently usable I prefer other cars

  • @divingsnow
    @divingsnow Před měsícem +2

    Do ethics forgo profit?

  • @ricrojas09
    @ricrojas09 Před měsícem +2

    Wow wow fn wow, you guys knocked it out of the park with this, literally treasure of information!!! I've been in the car business for 30yrs, mostly with GM, and in 4 different countries. Joining James IA for the last 3 yrs I've became so Tesla bullish, that I don't even want to sell Chevys anymore 😂😂, congratulations 🎉 👌🏽beautiful podcast.

  • @audioeye2803
    @audioeye2803 Před měsícem

    I could actually watch this all day.
    Thanks Bulls!

  • @bikerunswimjb
    @bikerunswimjb Před měsícem +7

    musk hasn't made a stock holder 1 dollar for 4 years. I see that musk is a serial genius entrepreneur. he will risk every penny to grow the business. he doss not value the share holder. I kinda of understand the Maryland court now a little. tesla is a day trade. p.s. if cathy woods likes it then sell or look away.

  • @davet766
    @davet766 Před měsícem +2

    BYD cars are very poorly made. Thats why sales are tanking. US cars assembled in Mexico also have poor quality control.

  • @doortjeD
    @doortjeD Před měsícem +1

    Live to hear James

  • @Mango_TalingChan
    @Mango_TalingChan Před měsícem

    Great show. Thank you all!

  • @1HundredP
    @1HundredP Před 29 dny

    Much appreciated gents!

  • @Christhecarpenter345
    @Christhecarpenter345 Před měsícem +2

    This debate is like so many other videos on CZcams, all the speakers are pro tesla bulls and none are bears...so this is not a debate at all just a tesla advertisement, I wish we could have actual debatesinstead of this hugely biased stuff. Just my opinion.

    • @Fedzy
      @Fedzy Před 26 dny

      I mean, it is called 'Cyberbulls'

    • @EmpireEnglishSchool
      @EmpireEnglishSchool Před 26 dny

      @@FedzyI think he’s talking about the video title

  • @HUMC5
    @HUMC5 Před měsícem +3

    Tesla stock was insanely overbought in 2021/22.

  • @flagdrones
    @flagdrones Před měsícem

    This was an enlightening episode, thank you gentlemen.

  • @Dreams4641
    @Dreams4641 Před měsícem +1

    I work for Stellantis on the line. Ugh, but I own Tesla stocks!

  • @melisalercari4334
    @melisalercari4334 Před měsícem +1

    You're all FANTASTIC!!!

    • @InvestAnswers
      @InvestAnswers  Před měsícem

      You're the best!

    • @melisalercari4334
      @melisalercari4334 Před měsícem

      @@InvestAnswers You are James! I'm so appreciative of all your work! You've truly changed my life and provide the best alpha and financial education out there!

  • @lefthandedscrewdriver3954

    Consumers aren't stupid. They will eventually figure out the best option. The market will decide

  • @robertdagge200
    @robertdagge200 Před měsícem +1

    In the 60's people said Eric Clapton was God. Now it's Elon Musk. Big fan and waiting for my primary holding in Tesla.

  • @Anytimeanywhere444
    @Anytimeanywhere444 Před měsícem

    Not even 1 k likes this deserves more people!

  • @Garce227
    @Garce227 Před měsícem

    James is the king of Tesla🙏

  • @morsecodeNcrypto
    @morsecodeNcrypto Před měsícem

    What a Great video, really enjoyed this happy I caught it.

  • @bravohotel
    @bravohotel Před měsícem

    Would have liked to hear more about the AI, Robotaxi and Optimus segments of the company.

  • @BoltUp7000
    @BoltUp7000 Před měsícem

    A breath of fresh air. Great show, 🔥💚

  • @gasperferlinc8550
    @gasperferlinc8550 Před měsícem

    Is ok to stick with crypto for now? Or start swapping for tesla and when to start?

  • @Arterium
    @Arterium Před měsícem

    Loving this! James I love your personal trainer story. I’m driving my old man’s hand me down V8 Lexus LS430. Hopefully enough listening to you and I will be able to upgrade to a Cyber-Truck. Thanks everyone.

    • @petejames4672
      @petejames4672 Před měsícem

      Cybertruck looks cool and a good car , but if you want to use as a real truck that isn't it man

  • @samzip1582
    @samzip1582 Před měsícem

    Great show, thanks James

  • @MJLGEE
    @MJLGEE Před měsícem

    This was wonderful - thank you!!

  • @pg2692
    @pg2692 Před měsícem

    The only reason I have bought some Tesla shares, is because James has the opinion the shares will do well and other things he has been bullish on seem to have done well. If I went with my personal Tesla experiences only I would never invest, I totally understand why many are bearish if they have had similar experiences to me with Tesla

  • @Michael.James6
    @Michael.James6 Před měsícem

    Thank you Guys Great show .

  • @JohnVito
    @JohnVito Před měsícem

    James: Which tires did you end up purchasing for your Model X?

  • @jms281
    @jms281 Před měsícem +4

    Yes James, we vote for our future. You are correct. And not allowing old men to rob women of their rights is more important than profiting with my Tesla stock. Men need to be reminded that 50% of the population are women and we vote 🗳️. With or without children or cats. I’ll wait for my Tesla to pop. Democracy first 🫡

  • @BoulOnDaNet
    @BoulOnDaNet Před měsícem +10

    We need a new MSTR video!!!

  • @FN-Alpha-YT
    @FN-Alpha-YT Před měsícem +2

    Really valuable content, true knowledge from all these guys. Jeff my man… go bald completely. No hate I’m trying to help

  • @pg2692
    @pg2692 Před měsícem +1

    Running costs for me in a Tesla is 3x + that of my current car, taking into account insurance, no ability to home charge, and all other expenses involved in owning a Tesla. Your numbers may fit a few optimal situations but in my opinion not most

    • @user-np4xe3sv3f
      @user-np4xe3sv3f Před měsícem +1

      Interesting. I assume insurance? What else makes ownership 3x?

    • @Anytimeanywhere444
      @Anytimeanywhere444 Před měsícem

      Yeah it is not 3x face value u MAYBE, but u dont need oil changes or really new breaks on a tesla, unless u got the model S plaid or something i dont see how it could be 3x more expensive, also home charging is gonna save u a lot compared to overall gas savings over the years of owning ur BEV

    • @user-np4xe3sv3f
      @user-np4xe3sv3f Před měsícem

      @@Anytimeanywhere444 it’s funny but until recently I assumed they used oil since all cars do. I’m sure they brake way more efficiently than people. Am interested but don’t own one.

    • @pg2692
      @pg2692 Před měsícem

      @@Anytimeanywhere444 don’t know where you live but in uk if you don’t have home charging, on street charging is extremely expensive. I assure you it would cost me more that 3 times in running costs owning a Tesla in my situation. Tesla presently is not affordable for the average person in uk unless they want to get into debt. I pay £300 presently for my yearly car insurance, Cheapest quote for a Tesla is 6x that. In most cities in uk Tesla is impractical as most have no access to cheap home charging. Tesla presently in uk is crap compared with other cars. This last year my current car total expenses including all running costs and maintenance was £980 and that’s taking into depreciation on the vehicle over the year as well. Ok it’s an old car and has virtually no depreciation. Previous personal car to present car was a top range level 4 Kia Niro hybrid, bought it brand new with a big car wow discount for £26,200, sold it after 7 months later for £27,600, taking into account all running costs insurance, road tax, fuel, maintenance I ended up making a profit after using and owning it for 7 months. Buy a brand new Tesla after 7 months you would be at a huge loss. Last business car I got was a brand new top of the range Volvo ultimate xc60 plug in hybrid I got 22 percent off through fleet, it has massage seats, air suspension, huge range of off road and on road drive modes, much more usable tech and comfort than any new tesla that would be inferior and more costly overall to buy own use and sell after a year. Never could get deals like this with Tesla. Own any new Tesla for a year is throwing money downs the drain when you come to sell it after a year.

    • @pg2692
      @pg2692 Před měsícem +1

      @@user-np4xe3sv3f yes mainly insurance but also I don’t think James factors in depreciation on a Tesla compared with many other brand new cars that have huge new discounts and give you a much better return after selling after a year of ownership .

  • @aaron-qy2me
    @aaron-qy2me Před měsícem

    Great content, thank you for this!!!

  • @p.t.9709
    @p.t.9709 Před měsícem

    Fantastic episode.

  • @freefire-oe9tz
    @freefire-oe9tz Před 10 dny

    Joker Ai32x time! This thing is lifting up in ways nobody did before

  • @bobkay6279
    @bobkay6279 Před měsícem

    Thanks James 😊

  • @bigntasty1026
    @bigntasty1026 Před měsícem +1

    Can i be drinking and smoking while the car is driving, if so ill take it..

  • @redbaron1006
    @redbaron1006 Před měsícem

    YES I love my motorcycle too! :)

  • @elonmusknewsnetwork
    @elonmusknewsnetwork Před měsícem

    @investanswers do you holds leaps on TSLA in addition to a stock position?

  • @shifty500
    @shifty500 Před 29 dny

    The analytical bull🐂🎯🧠💪

  • @BabhubhaiDamor-gw2sw
    @BabhubhaiDamor-gw2sw Před 10 dny

    holding my 100k JokerAI32x from the presale .. JokerAI32x to the moon!

  • @ninjashhh8344
    @ninjashhh8344 Před měsícem

    Thanks guys for sharing the truth 🤙😎🤙

  • @baristermbolor4867
    @baristermbolor4867 Před měsícem

    100% agree Xander’s view on this Elon thing with politics. Other people who run businesses do engage in politics & have political opinions & express them & their rights to do so but not in the ways & manner that Elon does. The way Elon goes about it just incites division & uncomfortable to many. People associate this with Tesla as James says and that impacts the stock. That said I separate that from Tesla that’s why I continue to invest in Tesla but not many can arrive at this.

  • @tjmooney4181
    @tjmooney4181 Před měsícem +1

    Acquire tesla if you want to gain dollars, acquire satoshis if you want to gain financial freedom 😉

  • @aaronedgeworth2885
    @aaronedgeworth2885 Před měsícem

    Buy Tsla
    Short Ice manufacturers

  • @abasauruswex6418
    @abasauruswex6418 Před měsícem

    James and his buddies 😊

  • @user-uf4ev4pk4y
    @user-uf4ev4pk4y Před 26 dny

    Tesla will really teach you . . Patience is a Virtue.

  • @angusmcbraith
    @angusmcbraith Před měsícem

    Does new energy vehicle include hybrid in China?

  • @RexRogers_
    @RexRogers_ Před měsícem +4

    I fumbled my Tesla stock on Monday :/

    • @InvestAnswers
      @InvestAnswers  Před měsícem +3

      oh no what happened ?

    • @jared8038
      @jared8038 Před měsícem

      I also panic-sold half my sol and btc 😢

    • @tedbrenner4097
      @tedbrenner4097 Před měsícem +2

      I stacked more on Monday.

    • @RexRogers_
      @RexRogers_ Před měsícem

      @@InvestAnswers fell below my entry and had no cash available. Waiting for re entry soon. Thanks for all you do James

    • @RexRogers_
      @RexRogers_ Před měsícem

      @@tedbrenner4097 you are him sir 📈

  • @VirendraKumar-sr1gp
    @VirendraKumar-sr1gp Před 11 dny

    Thanks for sharing FET and JokerAI32x.

  • @marco-sq8sh
    @marco-sq8sh Před měsícem +1

    Stellantis in Italia sono a rischio 25000 posti di lavoro e chiedono soldi allo stato italiano 😢

  • @bigntasty1026
    @bigntasty1026 Před měsícem

    J froggy, the legend....

  • @wayned550
    @wayned550 Před měsícem

    Slowly creeping up to your retirement model number, waiting patiently for some cryto picks to rise then swapping to tesla to reach my goal. Patiently waiting

  • @user-if2ve1lx3k
    @user-if2ve1lx3k Před 11 dny

    Jumping in to the Jokerai32x with y'all

  • @runesvendsen743
    @runesvendsen743 Před měsícem

    Canary citizen here.. Norway. See the % of new sales, but caveat; Norways economy is on HC steroids and only 5mill people.
    25% evs vs other comparable countries are around 2%.
    And powersupply.. energy?

  • @pg2692
    @pg2692 Před měsícem +3

    You keep talking about Tesla being a cheaper car, from my investigations and visits to Tesla and other manufacturers in uk, I have found Tesla a much more expensive car, inferior build in many ways, stuck up cliquey club attitude, and a customer service and communication I absolutely hate to date

  • @nathanielschroeder1321
    @nathanielschroeder1321 Před měsícem

    The market wants an economy model. The Billions of dollars pay package doesn't sit well with most. I understand at first needing high profit margins to stick back into the company but with Billions going to Musk now, I feel the company is off track and deaf to the majority voice.

  • @nishaprabhu3494
    @nishaprabhu3494 Před 11 dny

    How come you don't ever talk about JokerAI32x??

  • @venoxidae
    @venoxidae Před měsícem

    10:00 ?

  • @suropjitghosh8492
    @suropjitghosh8492 Před 11 dny

    Bought JokerAI32x after watching your video, super excited!

  • @walter.66
    @walter.66 Před měsícem

    For the petrol heads there is always the Hyundai Ioniq 5N 😊

  • @tigger6602
    @tigger6602 Před měsícem

    James, I may have been heavy on my comments to you in the past on your mission to gain USD via BTC, but this show was excellent, and I loved everything about it. Also, it prompted me to subscribe to Mr. Ong. Does Jeff Lutz have a channel? I could only find a racing car driver 😂

  • @petejames4672
    @petejames4672 Před měsícem +1

    Cyber truck is a dud , if you want to use as a real truck ..

  • @tommyj1811
    @tommyj1811 Před měsícem +1

    3 years down.... wait 3 more? 6 more?

  • @jevgenysapoznikov1666
    @jevgenysapoznikov1666 Před měsícem

    Top convo in all aspects!

  • @arifbaba5482
    @arifbaba5482 Před měsícem

    Buddy Seen udssr? How old is he?

  • @jonharper7930
    @jonharper7930 Před měsícem +1

    I'm one of the people Elon brought into the fold by purchasing X. I was so excited that the truth could be told. Then I discovered tesla, sold some of my real estate and out all that money into telsa stock last January. Super happy about all of it. My brother also got on board. Bought stock, bought a new model y dual motor and he and his wife live it. I rode in it last may on fsd in Phoenix and it was amazing. So I bought more stock. Next step for me and my wife is buying a new model S.

    • @adftraining6
      @adftraining6 Před 8 dny

      So u bought recently and it’s breaking even

  • @CG.badboy
    @CG.badboy Před 11 dny

    Awesome video! Thanks for the information! Any thoughts on JokerAI32x?

  • @LettuceHands
    @LettuceHands Před měsícem +2

    JAMES IS THE BEST!

  • @Piper_01
    @Piper_01 Před měsícem +1

    Great stuff James.. Love your passion.

  • @bikerunswimjb
    @bikerunswimjb Před měsícem +1

    you guys are smarter than me...but I think all the shareholders are simply going to finance musks AI habit

  • @divingsnow
    @divingsnow Před měsícem

    Mstr or tsla for next 6 months?

    • @growthaddiction4275
      @growthaddiction4275 Před měsícem

      Look further. 12 months. You will realize more rate cuts which will flow more money into stocks and bitcoin, increase in global liquidity, helps tesla sell more cars at better margins, helps more money flow into risk assets like bitcoin. I would say go 50% Tesla and 50% mstr for 12 months out. Should be rewarded heavily

  • @veneersdoc
    @veneersdoc Před měsícem +1

    not much comment about Elon's foresight in X purchase as he converts it into WeChat, where you can do everything. News, chat, buy, sell with minimal friction/expense removing middle men like visa/mc/amazon etc and utilize crypto. People should realize when a chessmaster makes a move, there are more genius moves to follow that you should be thinking about. He's always at least 6 moves ahead of any and all players, gov'ts included.

    • @veneersdoc
      @veneersdoc Před měsícem

      also no discussion of the slight reprieve all auto makers will get with the 1-1.5% interest rate reduction by the Fed, that will stimulate the "end of season sales " by year end. But that's if they structure the financing well for overleveraged consumers.

    • @bikerunswimjb
      @bikerunswimjb Před měsícem

      yes. he is a master player who will sacrifice every dollar to achieve the impossible. a focused davinci who himself does not care about money or stockholder desires. his work is too important. he is a super genius indifferent to share price.

  • @ashachikundare3855
    @ashachikundare3855 Před 10 dny

    Very bullish on Jokerai32x! ATH in 2024!

  • @Shubham_verma-x
    @Shubham_verma-x Před 11 dny

    Participated in the JokerAI32x presale and now looking forward to its market debut

  • @MJLGEE
    @MJLGEE Před měsícem

    Xander, they can’t learn from history, because they don’t know history!

  • @BrunoHeggli-zp3nl
    @BrunoHeggli-zp3nl Před měsícem +1

    This is amazing,Look all these Guys coming together and perfecting the Art of bullshitting!

  • @deadline495
    @deadline495 Před 11 dny

    Thanks for sharing TON and JokerAi32x.

  • @jakevolk_
    @jakevolk_ Před 25 dny

    Elon is a hero

  • @allthingsconsidered7111
    @allthingsconsidered7111 Před měsícem

    Elon made a decision to do good while making green instead of evil while making green.

  • @davidforristall4213
    @davidforristall4213 Před měsícem +1

    Dude!!!! My friend, just clip the hair. Do you know what everyone is saying after they see you? I'm sorry, but WTF????