Ex SAS Soldier Rusty Firmin reviews / talks about the First Gulf War Operation movie Bravo Two Zero
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WHO DARES WINS!
R.I.P Sergeant Vince Phillips Good Show! Rusty
And RIP Bob Consiglio and RIP ‘Legs’ Lane. Heroes.
You probably dont give a shit but if you're stoned like me atm then you can stream all the latest series on instaflixxer. Been streaming with my girlfriend these days =)
@Cameron Titus yup, been using Instaflixxer for since december myself :D
RIP Vince - also his younger brother Jeff, and their father. They both died prematurely, fighting to try and clear Vince's name.
Hi Rusty, I was the B Sqn Clerk 1979-1982 then left the army. I went back to Hereford many years later in my new role following an SP exercise. I was gobsmacked when I was told the real story of that failed mission. Reminded me of the saying ‘fail to prepare, prepare to fail’. Hope you’re keeping well and please give my regards to Tak. Take care, Martin
Is it true that, during operation Nimrod, they pulled a prank on a clerk by kitting him out and telling him he was going to assault along with the rest of them?
Thanks for my print Rusty it now hangs in pride of place in my flat.All the best Col.
It was a pitty they (mcnab,ryan) bullshitted so much in there books. Ryan's escape/survival was truly amazing, but why they had to elaborate the kill ratio and dump the blame on a dead member of there patrol was truly disgusting. Shame
I actually saw a recent clip of Ryan talking about the mission and he admitted he was hallucinating on his way through the desert. That doesn’t sound like a reliable source of information to me.
Well, since both books were vetted by the regiment, it's not just McNabb and Ryan's lie. The SAS themselves are lying, by viirtue of being happy to allow that version of events to even be published.
@@ashscott6068
Yep, to true. If you want a truer version of the mission read The real bravo two zero by Michael Asher, no bullshit involved or
One that tells how much the / and to what extent the hierarchy will go to to keep the truth out of the public eye, read Soldier Five by Mike Coburn
@@jimmartin9704 Hi Jim, I'm reading the real bravo two zero just now and it is very interesting reading, true to what actually happened. Its a cracking book and Michael Asher is an educated and learned man!!
Stay safe buddy.
@@johnpirie3800
Thanks, you too
I’ve read both Bravo Two Zero and The One That Got Away. I really didn’t get the impression that McNab or Ryan were slagging off Vince, rather they were describing the final hours of a brave man slowly dying of hypothermia: the ranting and hallucinations, a truly terrible way to go. Ryan was no doubt suffering badly from the cold as well and probably said things he wouldn’t have in any other situation. The conditions must have been horrendous, and who are we to judge.
maybe you have seen it "Michael Asher SAS follows Bravo 2 Zero mission"very good.
Excellent documentary and excellent book. And it restored Vincent's reputation.
Asher is a great explorer who has never stopped using his skills in one way or another. Excellent doc.
@GRÖBNÖB what!? Asher has his own extremely prominent success, he's an explorer in an age when few can say it and a good writer of far more high brow stuff.
@Abe Froman mmmmm but he passed SAS selection. Got evidence. He can't be weak mate
Asher believed everything the Iraqis told him. That was his big mistake.
My heart goes out to the brave men who lost their lives and their families.
Another realistic and pragmatic review of what was a Hollywood scripted movie and not true events. Thank you!
Mike Coburn who was the Kiwi in the B2Z patrol wrote a book called Soldier Five. MOD tried to ban it.
i read it
Chur bro. Read that one too. 🇳🇿
Excellent read.
Love your channel Rusty,my total & utter respect & thanks to you & all the very brave men & heroes in the sas & our armed services & forces who keep up safe & free in our beautiful country,
Great video Rusty, I remember being in UAE at the time( Xmas 1990 ) with DPM camo on and waiting to be issued the desert camo weeks later 😌
Thank you Rusty for your service to us. It’s people like you that we all can learn so much from. Thank you once again. Craig.🇮🇲🇮🇲🇮🇲
Keep up the good work sir. Stay well
Great insight Rusty , and respect your views and compassion to the bravo 2 zero mission
tough guys special people in every sence respect
Read both your books. I've never finished a book completely since reading the autobiography of be Brian blessed. "Gordon's alive!" Great reading. Really interesting. Now going to read a couple of Bob Shepherds books. Ex Raf Regt like myself. Hope the ribs heal soon. Keep drinking the whiskey.
Great review Rusty.
I've finished reading both books.
Go Go Go 6 days.
& THE REGIMENT
Brilliant reads
Both very different.
But a great incite to the Iranian embassy siege and the SAS.
I highly recommend these books.
Fantastic.
W D W
👍👍👍
Thanks
Thanks for that review Rusty, I’ll watch the film in a different light now. By the way, I’ve just purchased your book Go Go Go on Audio, I look forward to listening to it 👍
Thanks for the limited signed "Resolution" portrait. Top guys who dared and won. 👍
Nice to see you doing this kind of stuff rusty really good to hear from some one hoo has done this kind of thing for real really enjoyed it .please be kind to Lewis Collins he was born in the same town as me birkehead and he's was
Liverpool fan .please do more of this kind of stuff it's really interesting to hear your views keep up the good work .ynwa
I’m a Liverpool supporter
Total respect , you could see your mind ticking over about what not to say, about what you really thought of the mission and actions that happened
Ha ha what mind?
Hi Rusty . I know T. Mc G , he lives in my village with his wife C . He was B squadron and in B19
He’s a fascinating guy and his brother was also B squadron like yourself.
B19 aborted the mission .
6 Days is a great film. Well done Rusty 👍🏻
No it no it's shite! Rusty doesn't even like it! Thanks for your service!
i dont know what site i went and it said the print was" sold out"but i went to your proper site and im ordering the print,great videos,keep it goin,Thanks Bill.
8 left no rush will order more
@@RustyFirminSASTV hope you are paying royalties to the other 3 guys.
Thanks for sharing your insight and opinion
Bought both of your books in the last couple of weeks. Watched 6 days a couple of weeks ago. The books are excellent, I read Go! Go! Go! first and love all the detail and background information from the different factions. A lot of stuff I hadn't really picked up on elsewhere. Like just how far the stockholm syndrome took grip on the hostages right up until near the end. I really enjoyed it on quite a few levels.
With The Regiment, I'm currently on your tour in Ireland with the Det. All good stuff :)
The book Go! Go! Go! was way better than the film, but I did enjoy the film which is way better than the adaptations of McNab and Ryan's books.
Just joined your Facebook page
"You only get outed if you're a Walt." BRILLIANT.
Brilliant stuff again Rusty iv read the book bravo two zero away back in the 90s bought the vhs video of the film & Chris Ryan's side to the story the one that got away yes . there are to side to a every story saw your film today 6 days Brilliant SAS WHO DARES WINS 🇬🇧👍.
The 'military advisor' on the TV movie Bravo Two Zero is listed as one 'Andy McNab'....
Glad you done this thanks rusty. Al
I have read the book it's really good I have also read the one that got away Chris Ryan
@rusty watched 6 days again the other night , i enjoyed it mate. Again love these videos and listening to your opinions and experiences , loved listening to the 10 parts of yourself and the Late great John Mac. REspect rusty , again loved the book 😁
Thank you and the boys .who shows the world what happens .if you come to the u.k to commit terror .god bless you rusty absolute bloody hero in my eyes .and should be to this younger team .good luck m8 HERO UKSF 4 LIFE ..G MAN .💪👺👤
Fair play sir. We all have differences. Respect your honesty.
So wierd I watched it for the first time the other day as I'm a massive Sean Bean fan.. (it's funny that the got one of the most northern blokes to play a cockney 😁)..
And I thought to my self
"I wonder if Rusty has seen this and what would he think of it?"
And know I know 😁
Sean Bean is a much better Richard Sharpe....
@@siemadademsi5533 jaja nope, just on youtube. Is too old. But I´ve read all the books...They are so good!
Very bad leadership by the PL to carry on the mission without comms, dropped off in the wrong location (confirmed in interview by McNab) and to walk to the border, considering that Bravo One Zero and Bravo Three Zero aborted the mission on arrival, exactly what McNab should have done.
Bang on!
Insight - sight from within - respect from Down Under Rusty , I met you briefly , when I was 15, (I’m 44 now) , I was impressed then and I’m impressed now - thanks for your service and for sharing these stories , absolutely fascinating , it’s military history but it’s social commentary - would love to hear more on your views on the falklands and the aftermath given victories and the losses for uksf and the Royal Navy , what’s it like in that immediate aftermath and how do you process it ?
Good on ya Rusty - Dave 🙏👍
Rusty liked Dusty! Springfield that is and she was an icon! So is Firmin. God bless you both.
Good review, picked up on the salient points that ring true with serving and former serving
Hi Rusty, really enjoyed your book and thanks for the video uploads! Curious to know what members of the SAS from the past think of how Vince Phillips was portrayed in the one that got away?
Stop breaking your bones! Thanks for the great videos.
I didn't know Sir Paul McCartney was in the SAS
Never really understood the fascination for Bravo 2 Zero, other than respect for the guys who were lost, the incredible distances covered in adverse conditions to recover from a flawed mission.
Love your honesty Rusty ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐ teacher saying could have done a lot better that was me unfortunately
Just listened to your audio book, it really is excellent 👍
Brilliant rusty thanks😁👍👏👏👏
Totally right rusty, Peter Radcliffes book eye of the storm opens up a can of worms showing Mcnabs failings in this mission and the big one was no vehicles used. Mcnabs ignorance cost the patrol big in my opinion and the RSM didn’t seem to have much of a good word to say about him in his book.
Not read it but know the R S M well
Rusty Firmin SAS TV it was a good read and I would like to hope some truth. Mcnab got slated by the rsm for ignoring sound advice about the patrol and not using vehicles for mobility and in case they ran into trouble but mcnab did not listen him or the others so it goes
@@RustyFirminSASTV Well worth a read Rusty.
Marcus Kiritsis I read that book too. He called BS on a lot of stuff. He sounded like one chap not to piss off.
@@horsefootrot8044 Quite. I read Sabre Squadron by Cameron Spence before I read the Radcliffe book. It certainly brings out Rusty's point concerning different perspectives. In the Spence book Radcliffe, unnamed in the book, is dropped on them (by Chinook) to replace their senior officer. The latter of whom clearly could not 'cut the mustard.' All are relieved at this. However, for the rest of the book the portrayal of Radcliffe is interesting. He is made to come across as a crude version of Geoffrey Boycott. There is a constant undercurrent of young men taking the piss.
Meanwhile, in the Radcliffe account, things are seen through the opposite end of the telescope. He found himself trying to constantly 'herd cats.' Why would no one listen to common sense? There is an impression left that he had little time for premadonnas and you are left on his side when you finish the book.
Both honest accounts, no doubt. But you are left hoping that you personally never end up being portrayed in someone's memoirs.
Hi Rusty another great vlog. I've always said I would have taken pinkys keep safe mate.😎
A bicycle would have been better than f all
Hi Rusty.
Thanks for the insights.
My contribution is this. I may not have been in HM Forces, but as a University lecturer, I can help you with the phase 'nitty gritty.'
Some years ago now the then Home Secretary made a speech to the Confederation of Police Officers. These, naturally, also comprised police officers from the Met.
Now the Met., being the Met., had set up a special team to find words which were 'offensive' and which Met. PCs should never use. They were instructed to complete a list of such words and expressions and compile a book of their findings. As the saying goes, give a man a hammer, and he will find a nail.
So what is 'offensive'? Well, for example, referring to somebody as an 'old bean.' Good enough for Bertie Wooster and the Drones Club. However, the book compilers determined that this, clearly, referenced a 'bean flicker', a derogatory term for a lesbian.
I think that you are probably getting the picture.
So, the Home Secretary was, post speech, reproved for using the term 'nitty gritty.' Why? On the basis, so the book compilers said, that it referred to the ballast kept in the bottom of slave ships.
Just give that some thought. If true, it would refer to the ballast kept in every ship, slaves or no slaves.
More importantly, the Oxford English Dictionary can find absolutely no connection between the term and shipping ballast. It states:"Nitty-Gritty slang. (Orig. US). (Etymology unknown) The realities or basic facts of a problem, situation, subject etc. The heart of the matter." First use in print: 1963 in the US 'Time' Magazine.
You will note that 1963 in rather late for the Triangular Trade.
But if you are looking for racism under every stone, (no pun intended), you are sure to find it.
The Home Secretary apologised and said that he would never use the term again.
Keep on keepin' on.
Nitty gritty it is .
Interesting stuff Rusty, thanks for sharing your review.
Hi Rusty, Michael Asher returned to Iraq and spent time with the Bedouin who were in that area and his findings totally disproved McNabb's self glorifying Book account of the patrol. He kindly returned Vince's broken binoculars to his parents, and burried a can of Guinness in the area where he fell. God bless the Pilgrims that never returned. Cracking channel Rusty, keep it up mate.🤙
I see that program many years ago, actually upset me a bit to be honest as every person they interviewed pretty much discounted the events that happened - to the point it made out the whole SAS account to be a lie. I feel the need to watch that again now. I wonder if rusty has seen it and his thoughts on the documentary ? It left me feeling a numb to what the truth actually was.
@@stuarts3016 The Operation was domed from the get go, no vehicle's taken, poor kit clothing wise as the night temperature was at a 30 year low, McNabb refused vehicle's, and the shepherds Asher spoke with discredit his account of events in the book, especially the huge distance tabbed from the helo insertion point .The way Vince was called nervous and twitchy was not representative of his manner at all, the cold, poor planning, inadequate clothing no vehicle's and McNabb's poor pre op planning set the fate of the tragedy that occurred. Rusty I'm certain as an ex Regiment Soldier knows more than we could ever know. McNabb made a pile of money from that book and broke Regiment protocol in the naming of individual Troopers in said book among other things, yet insisted on using his pseudonym during and after the operation claiming it was for his own security.🤔 To date the whole affair is still a subject of much controversy and conflict of opinion, in and out of SAS circles. Sadly mate great men died, how you evaluate who's to blame ultimately, well we digress as do many others. The only thing I know is ,Rusty talks the facts, the truth and never ever paints pictures of him self in a glorified way, as David Dickinson says, Rusty's the Real Deal 🤙
Rusty as always a great insight into the finer detail, and very sad that lessons were not learnt from previous mistakes, saying that how would Andy & Chris have created their best sellers
I’m talking film review
Ask them
Thanks Rusty !
New sub. Look forward to reading your books at some point. Enjoying your content very much.
I remember in the cadets, me and me mates loved it. Few years later we realised it was Hollywood.
You wernt alone
You can still say Chinese parliament these days. Don’t worry about it. The only thing is that to be authentic it means if anyone disagrees with the consensus, they are bundled up and taken away, never to be seen again.
Thanks for covering this, I would love to pick your brain about this mission but obviously you can't. Thanks rusty 💪
i picked the same things up, the bog standard matching belt kits, no maps or basic survival equipment, love the videos rusty you remind me of a really blunt to the point no shit platoon sergeant 🤣👍
According to Chris Ryan the reason they didn't take vehicles is because there were only Landrover 90's left. All the 110's had gone. You couldn't mount a gpmg on a 90, so they decided not to bother and instead equip themselves with personal minimi's instead. He said that during a book signing talk. Its on youtube somewhere.
He later said they should have taken two because they could hide the vehicles and then make a observation post. It would have been very hard to hide 2 veichle.
@@cheekboy7247 Bottom line is they were told they could dig in the soil, and the weather would be like spring time in the UK. Not the bedrock and arctic weather they ultimatley faced. And with no 110's left its no surprise they went on foot. That is if Ryan's version is to be believed.
@@johnmellor932 agree with you. Bad intel got people killed.
Thanks for that one Rusty,interesting stuff.I got the impression you would of liked to of said an awful lot more on that regarding the leadership and plan of the operation but for obvious reasons you can’t,but I really enjoyed your thoughts and opinions on it,thanks again Rusty.on another note did you watch Liverpool tonight,how much have they been drinking.😂👍🍺🇬🇧
Rusty , I being a former medic get the same shock and amazement watching OUR GIRL . having been there and done it to watch the shite being put forward is embarrassing and bordering on offensive to my Corps .
Thanks for all you Did Rusty , men like you help keep the great in Great Britain
I won’t let it happen
@Rusty - you mention that the patrol failed to take .22 silenced pistols with them which would have prevented them being compromised by quietly disposing of the shephard boy aged 6. What do you suppose would have happened to them if they'd been captured and had been found to have murdered that child? Also, you suggest that this kind of scenario would be standard operating procedure. Is that the case?
Sir I have confirmed PTSD not Service related but very similar circumstances I was briefly In the Armed Forces UK biggest regret I didn't stay in longer was told on leaving I was a good soldier at the time of leaving Hey Ho anyway Hijacked in Belfast held at gunpoint and pistol whipped for 2hours still gave one the bastards a right hander and was told I was mad allways at the back of my mind and comes forward when in confrontation and elevates the situation to thinking I'm going to be done in but however I just wanted to thank you for giving me the confidence to take my MED/ anti depressant and not see it as a weakness to need it THANKS I worked with a EX SBS lad who IS NOW a good Friend for 6 months for a charity rehoming abused family's etc Foxy told me a few actions he had been involved in a d the Tragedy and sometimes the Humour .I one day out of the blue asked him if he thought I I could have passed selection and supprisingly he said a lovely thing that he thought I had something about me and I should have went for Biggest compliment of my life next to my wife giving me 4 beautiful daughter's Best Wishes Tommy
21 Bics..... miss you Hitchin
Hi Rusty, would you review ‘The One That Got Away’ by Chris Ryan? It would be interesting to hear your honest opinion of that film also
Great review Rusty 100%
Thanks guys
Hi Rusty can you do a segment on the VICTOR 2 mission in Iraq and the events leading up to it I.E. The
Troop commander being relieved of his Command etc ?
Remind no n t week please
@@RustyFirminSASTV Copy that mate ?
Thanks for this review R, sorry you had to waste two hours of your time but it's saved me from wasting two hours of my time.
When I read the book just after it came out I wondered why they didn't take a land rover on the helicopter. Wouldn't that have made sense?
They thought it was going to be soft sand like at their fob, they trained in vehicles and spent all their time digging them out. Turns out where they went was rock hard shale so vehicles would of been perfect like D squadron proved. Terrible intel.
Only truthful experience from the SAS. Plenty of walts and spotlight/media/money seekers (from within).
Great that you're still with us.
The problem i have with the bravo two zero film is it gives the impression that the events protrayed were factual when it wasnt. The basic premise was correct but some of the "event" were..........not.
I’ve heard some not so great things about McNab from serving SAS lol
@@scrimmo it's the firefights from what i understand that have been called into question.
Books are a go go go , plus I ordered my ferrets some treats
Hi Rusty! Taff here, glad you are sticking up for the regiment, I tried selection and know how you feel about the programme, who dares wins, nothing like selection. I was in the Mt at the time you did the siege was it true they kitted up Martin the sqn clerk to do the seige with you.
Fantastic speech Rusty.
Thank you mate
Great review and insights on this and other clips like the jungle training/selection. If you like reviewing tactics, perhaps 'Zero Dark Thirty's' depiction of the assault on Osama Bin Laden's compound by USN SEAL's might be a good one perhaps, kind regards.
piss poor planning makes for piss poor performance
Rusty, I’ve got a book called “A MONK IN THE SAS”...anything on that
Sounds like a monk beating his meat. Never heard of it.
The Welrod was in both 9mm and .32 ACP.
Was it
@@RustyFirminSASTV Not speaking from any experience (we never used suppressed weapons in my 35 years in the infantry). I cheated and looked it up on Wikipedia.
Spot on 👌
What annoyed me about both films (Ryans previous film too) is they were portrayed wearing DPM smocks, not the WW2 era biege smocks they actually wore.
Agree
Rusty can you review Tropic thunder, maybe the closest thing to real life......thanks
What is that?
the best true to life war movie ever made....tropic thunder
@simoniainsmith most movies and books are made up nonesense.....so tropic thunder is about right
The books were an insult to every man who died on that patrol. No respect, no discretion, no integrity.
I read the book Bravo two zero before i watched that film and they are sort of the same. in my opinion Yorky Crosslands book is way better ,Victor Two if anyone fancies a Read, Mobility Troop armed to the teeth.
Great video as usual Rusty
I read that many years ago. He claimed Peter Radcliffe to be incompetent and dangerous.
I've just finished Chris Ryans' 'the one that got away', I found that more interesting and better written than B2Z.
I for one really appreciate listening to your unique down to earth reviews and thoughts regards this and many other of the regiments operational encounters as such thought I’d send a word of encouragement and gratitude for your service, I’m confident that there shall be many other out there that think the same. Throughout WW2 my grandad spent a number of years in the military in the Egyptian & Libyan desert North African theatre up through Italy eventually coming home to Blighty at end of hostilities early 1945 he was always perhaps understandably reluctant to talk to us at length about his experiences spending most of his time in his garden before he sadly passed away some years ago. I was wondering just out of curiosity whether you yourself ever had the good fortune to meet or speak with David Sterling who I understand was a very pragmatic and decent chap also?
A good insight into that particular mission ie the film but most people know and certainly ex army like myself that a lot of details or the real truth is not portrayed or told for various reasons basically load of bollox but I suppose the walts love it
You talk about "Ruperts" (or Ops Rm.) and the o-group, yet the absence of planning on this Op was boy-scout level. That's down to the patrol commander, and it seems they believed their own hype. A more f'd-up failure of a mission would be hard to find, and yet the belter in command was gonged. Strange old world.
What was the longest walk you ever had to do either selection,training or on a mission?
Walk of life
Rusty Firmin SAS TV fair one 👍
The silenced WWII one-round pistols you mentioned, were mentioned n one of the books. I forget whose, but I think it was Chris Ryan's. He said they wanted them, but couldn't get them.
Welrod pistols
There was an ex British SAS guy, forget his name but he had an expertise in that part of the world, he retraced the alleged events in the film, speaking to the locals who were living there at the time and came to the conclusion the "story" was fantasy.
Yes, I saw that, and read his book The Real Bravo two zero. I would like to know how much of the books is fabrication.
His name is Michael Asher. The TV show he did on the subject is on You Tube.
Great review from the inside. Is it possible for you to sign your books when I buy them? Thanks Terry
Yes mate sign and send.
You think that's bad you should try watching The one that got away - chris Ryan's film.
Will do walt zing Matilda .
@@RustyFirminSASTV one of my favourite channels. But some of your replys I dont get. Still a ledge tho.
Could you do a video on what a average day at Hereford was like
Done
Mcnabb (Steve Mitchell ) shouldn’t have took the lead ,
As a vet you question every decision you make and cover every aspect of your role to be carried out , what if , what if , what if ,
Ive heard first hand he's a right pillock
Steve?
@@MegaGREENJACKET McNabs real name
That compass scene always triggered me.
Looks Gucci though. Err where’s mag north
Good stuff rusty x
Rusty dinger was mentioned alot in all vids and books regarding bravo 2 zero, and to me came across both fearless and according to patrol commander though as nails, did u no him personally to. Soz for any spelling mistakes as I'm dislexic.
I didn't like the way they bad mouthed Vince Philips in their book's. Even if it were true the guy died have some respect. I think they did it to justify to themselves abandoning their oppo.
They had to leave him. Chris ryan talked a lot of shit about vince
I agree with you. The man was no longer here to defend himself and a heartbroken family having to deal with more pain because of what was said in the books.
The decision regarding whether to use vehicles or not was original SAS planning, nothing to do with the making of the film. It was a poorly planned and executed operation, where lives were lost. The majority of SAS observers, including Rusty resent the fact that that Steve and Colin made a lot of money out of a glamourised version of events in their books and are bitter that Vince Phillips was at least partially blamed for the failures of others. To be fair to Steve and Colin, their original scripts were closer to what really happened, but were not considered exciting enough. The editors and publishers asked for more action and they got what they wanted. In terms of selling books, they were probably correct as BTZ especially was phenomenally successful. They are both fun books, but don't confuse them with what really happened.
Well done mate 👏👍
Always interesting. Vince getting slagged was disgusting. Don't believe any of it. Will track down your books; Soldier I too, Snappers innit? The Ireland conflict fascinates me, so all the Det stuff will be interesting reading. Your football team is as bad as mine( CFC). Still, always next season mate! Cheers mate, all the best.