How Politics Corrupted Science: Dr. Vinay Prasad on COVID
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- Q&A with Dr. Vinay Prasad, a practicing hematologist-oncologist and associate professor in the department of epidemiology and biostatistics at the University of California, San Francisco
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"What I think is most problematic is that we [in the medical field] were a bit dishonest in saying we had more confidence than we really did," says Vinay Prasad, a practicing hematologist-oncologist and associate professor in the department of epidemiology and biostatistics at the University of California, San Francisco. "The place that I have been most critical of the pandemic response is communication around the certainty of the evidence when it is, in fact, a lot more uncertain."
Prasad, an outspoken and persistent critic of what he views as an incompetent, censorious, and overly invasive response by the American public health establishment to the COVID-19 pandemic, is also the host of the podcast Plenary Session, which covers medicine and health policy. He spoke to Reason about the major hit in public trust that public health agencies, the medical profession, and science in general have taken during the pandemic by insisting that Americans blindly "trust the science."
"It's more complicated than just 'the science,'" says Prasad. "It's science plus values and preferences of the population. What I think is the misstep is that the scientists, they have a policy conclusion in their mind that they want. And so they overstate the certainty of the science so they can get their desired policy conclusion. But that is a scientist usurping the political role, usurping, I think, the values and preferences of society. And they replace it with their own values and preferences, which they are completely entitled to have as one citizen among many, but [that doesn't mean] that their values and privacy should dominate."
Prasad, who spoke with Reason about the failure of lockdowns, overzealous mask and vaccine mandates, and unscientific school closures and restrictions on children, says that "groupthink" overtook the medical establishment early in the pandemic and is something physicians, public health officials, and scientists must resist if they're ever to regain the public's trust.
"The people who talked about cancel culture being problematic across all domains of life I think are really on to something," says Prasad. "I'm 100 percent sure that the majority of scientists who could have commented on COVID-19 have self-censored. The people you're hearing are a very, very tiny fraction of all the people that are actually doing science. We have no idea what the average scientist thinks about masking two-year-olds or vaccinating five-year-old mandates. They're very quiet, and they are quiet because they have almost no professional upside to speak out on the issue. Only professional downside."
But Prasad says that more medical professionals must find the courage to speak honestly if they want to restore public trust and save the younger generation from lasting harm.
"There are lots of people who study early life course development, and they study social economics, and they study disparities," says Prasad. "If you are silent on school closure…masking kids and these issues, this is the greatest issue in your career, in your lifetime. It's going to be a thousand times, 10,000 times more impactful…If you're in this business because you want to make a difference, this is the issue. This is the issue to make a difference on. It's not five years from now."
Interview by Zach Weissmueller; edited by Adam Czarnecki.
They shut down the churches and gyms, but kept the casinos open.
Millions of small businesses went under.
That was part of the plan. To destroy the middle class. Welcome to The Great Reset.
Where did revolutions start? In churches and bars. Where do you keep yourself healthy against a "pandemic" that favors killing off overweight people? The gym.
The cost of the Pharma INQUISITION games is always paid by those that can least afford it. While the leaders of games go buy a yacht big enough to land their helicopter upon🙉🙈🙊🤑
Carol Roth makes n excellent case explaining how the pandemic was used as a tool to crush the little guys that dared to dream.
Native American casinos are run by the tribes and considered sovereign nations so they didn’t have to abide by local or federal mandates. But poor policy and omissions in data are quite visible throughout this pandemic.
Dr. Vinay Prasad my utmost Respect to you Sir!!~*
I am older and even for my age group, we should have CHOICE on what goes into our bodies!! reguardless of what EXPERTS DETERMINE is BEST for us!!
Did you miss the part where he said he is a Fauxi fan????
@@chrisblue46 👀 a fan ?? yea actually must of missed that😳
I agree, vaccines should not have been mandated for anyone. I hoping he mentions how censorship has caused those people who still think for themselves, to no longer trust, the government, the media, big pharma etc.
@@annarice5162 i absolutely agree with you!!~*
Part of my response was deleted, about how I first suspected something was amiss when Trump got covid, and took Hydroxichloroquine and zink, and they called it experimental treatments, now zink is one of the first things they give you in the hospital! Also, for a while they threatened doctors who wrote scripts for Hydroxichloroquine, and pharmacies if they filled them.
Hysteria seems to be the most serious symptom of this virus.
I know, the right melted down over having to wear masks and get a vaccine.
Hysteria is the result of government propaganda and violence/force against free people. The virus has been pretty mild itself and has certainly caused bad outcomes for people with poor immune responses.
@@IanSizzler only in the us did it get so politically ignorant like you suggest. Socialist Sweden and Guantanamo Bay guard Ron DeSantas had policies that were nearly indistinguishable. It was such a terrible missed opportunity for the left in US to allow their hate for Trump to distract them from making meaningful change in the pharmaceutical industry. It was a once in a lifetime opportunity to unite with the right and force Pfizer and other predator pharma to be subjected to rigorous analysis but hey, at least you get to come and make fun of the right for rejecting your aka, predator pharma’s, “advertisement science”.
YESSS
I was never hysteric about this virus and I still stayed home, wore masks and got vaccinated
As a healthcare worker who had natural immunity and public health demanding 2 jabs while other countries did not I no longer trust the Healthcare system that I work in
Please read the 11th Hour Blog
I too work in healthcare and no longer trust the healthcare system in which I work. Very unfortunate!!
That is the sad part. I agree with you as a retired RN once manager of Employee health- retired right before this debacle began. I am praying for my colleagues a disruption has occurred and hopefully a new healthcare/wellness model will break thru without Government and money as the end goal
As a person not in healthcare. I no longer trust the healthcare system and it’ll take a major cleanup of our FDA, CDC, NIAID and the WHO before I do. Matter of fact just get rid of the WHO altogether.
You should be fired for having no understanding of healthcare
Vinay helped me keep my sanity over the last two years. I have so appreciated his bravery and true scientific integrity.
same here and he really helped me justify my opinion on this whole debacle. i really admire him alot
Same! I highly value his commentary and analyses.
Why? He kept throwing zingers about the dangers of the vaccine then pushing the vaccine. Painful.
@@lr6477 He was nuanced about the truth of the vaccine. Risk and reward.
Me too.
So we still have zero accountability for the takedown of we the people. We haven't even seen the entirety of the damage done in mental health. My grandkids are altered forever and I am seeing the damage to them.
We have treated the emotional wellbeing of young children with evil disregard.
I’m sorry🙏 These monsters only care about power and control.
@@reasonablespeculation3893 And that's leaving out the educational losses....
this idiot Prasad idolises the very person who has pushed the entire plandemic and " vaccine " agenda from day one, ( and many years before )..
@@Nemo-un5rr and money
The loss of Constitutional rights, and the lies used to do so!!!
Don't forget to include corporate lies as part of this process.
Good move on covering this guy. His critiques on covid have given me hope that logic while a minority in covid times still exists.
Agreed, I really like him and always listen to his podcasts
It doesn't matter. People like him have no power to effect change, the lunatics are running the asylum.
People out there in our communities spread horrible disinformation and smears. !
He was pro-jab until the deaths started showing up. The 'virus' has never been isolated, so what are we jabbing for?
He is not saying how Fauci said we don’t know if the shots will prevent Covid or that people won’t get really sick ! This guy is not saying that the rule of law in Science is to not make a vaccine if oral medicine is available! They took oral medicine and early intervention away . This is all criminal!
Politics is power and, like money, power corrupts.
No, power corrupts. Money flows to power by corruption. Money is a tool for exchange, and corrupt politicians even destroyed it's very value by turning it into a fiat currency that has no basis in value and so can be used to benefit some over others, and reduce government debt without increasing taxation.
True, but I don't think people exactly understand what the phrase means: Power corrupts the minds of people who have power. They eternally think of themselves as being a superior species afterwards.
Peer reviewed non biased studies are nearly impossible to publish for ANYTHING that could have negative financial impacts on the pharmaceutical industry. The censorship and academic/scientific black out is terrifying.
Not only are you articulate Vinay, you are also very dashing in your own way! Thankyou for being you, and speaking from your heart.💌🌱
Excellent assessment of covid public health response. Clear, consise, rational....make Dr Prassad the head of the CDC. Only a doctor like this will make me trust public health officials ever again. Thank you for bringing him forward.
Completely agree ... and I don't even live in America.
I truly appreciate Dr. Prasad and have been listening to him for several months. I consider him an excellent centrist on all things covid and vaccine. The question I have for everyone including Dr. Prasad is about the verity of any and all the data. How much of the supposed data from the past two plus years has been flawed? How many sources of data weren't gathered or have remained unexplored? It is easy to say some studies aren't up to speed but perhaps the more relevant question is why obvious opportunities and pathways for gathering data were disparaged?
The vaccine safety data in particular, he seems to trust too much. He dismisses the possibility of non-myocarditis harms as being misinformation or mistakes... I have experienced horrific non-myocarditis health problems myself (at least, the doctors said my heart was fine... after putting off any diagnostic work for several months... so maybe it WAS myocarditis? who even knows) and know others personally who have as well. There is a lot to unpack as to the dishonesty and dysfunction of data collection around vaccine safety. Prasad is great at seeing through government bullshit when there's no big studies involved, but as soon as there's a large clinical trial he loses all skepticism. Oh well. Still one of the best covid analysts you can find on youtube.
Yes I too watched him throughout the pandemic but he still pushes the vaccine as safe and effective. Its so topsy turvy.
None of the data is right especially the ungodly amount they say died of Covid! Even the CDC said there data isn't write because they counted patients at the hospital as Covid patients that were their for something else tested positive while their but didn't know they were even sick! I can tell you as a nurse I watched one man come in died from a heart attack confirmed to family as cause of death. They then tested the dead body for Covid he was positive so guess what he was counted with that 900,000! Covid 19 while unfortunately the demise of some it's no where near what they claim! Had they been able to mandate that vaccine there probably would have been just as many deaths or not far from the vaccine alone! The government knew people were harmed from the vaccine early on from the trial they did. More people are suffering one way or another from the vaccine than not! They hid that too till that Senator gave them the place to tell their story. I saw that once and haven't seen a thing since! All those athletes that died the list is huge all young people! Sickening
For eye-opening information on the science, which was politicized and corrupted from early on, look up the following from the British medical journal:
- 'Covid-19: politicisation, “corruption,” and suppression of science', BMJ 2020
- 'Covid-19: Researcher blows the whistle on data integrity issues in Pfizer’s vaccine trial', BMJ 2021
- 'The illusion of evidence based medicine', BMJ 2022
- 'Covid-19 vaccines and treatments: we must have raw data, now', BMJ 2022
Everyone at the CDA FDA AND NIH SHOULD BE BROUGHT BEFORE A COURT OF LAW AND SENTENCED TO LIFE IMPRISONMENT WITHOUT EXCEPTION ALL OF THEM.
Great interview! Really glad to see Dr Vinay Prasad getting the recognition he deserves. Thank you ReasonTV for providing a platform for more nuanced, transpartisan ideas to be discussed. You guys should totally consider other Alt-Middle thinking doctors like Dr Zubin aka ZdoggMD on the show too!
Dr. Vinay is SPOT ON. I agree top to bottom. Why not let him replace Fauci? and the CDC?
I agree, the big reason why the media despises Joe Rogan was because he was the only commentator to have questions about covid, it's origins, Fauci, and the CDC.
He was not the only
There were plenty of others. They got shut down.
@@whousa642 Well of course you also had Alex Jones and Steven Crowder who questioned it but Rogan is more widely known
He was far from the only. He was just one of the highest profile.
They hate Rogan because he has a ton of viewers, even more than MSM. If he was a small fry, they wouldn't be so desperate to shut him down.
What we need is a COVID Nuremberg trial for public health officials.
And leftist politicians
Bingo
Why, a million Americans died from covid. Millions world wide.
@@nosuchthing8 A million Americans died WITH COVID.
@@jnauttube NOPE.
The death rate went up. From 2020 to 2021.
The CDC tracks the total number of deaths in buckets, like heart disease and cancer.
All existing buckets were about the same. There was an excess 400,000 deaths that was unexpected. Due to covid.
Bottom line, if half the country dies in a nuclear war, only a deluded knuckle head would conclude they died WITH radiation poisoning.
500 years ago, they would be able to count the deaths and conclude that something was killing people. It could be vampires, it could be a disease.
When there are two or more theories on any matter of health, the government should not endorse any one of them because it could be wrong. A perfect example is the old food guide pyramid which unhealthily emphasized carbohydrates. It took way too long to drive a stake through the heart of that one. The government should just stay out of the way and let all theories compete in the public sphere.
That's a really good example. While there _might_ (debatable, to be sure) be a place for government to help boost research in areas where there's humanitarian value but not much market value, the food pyramid was a complete corruption of that goal. It wasn't just bad research; monetary interests almost entirely influenced what went into it. There was more industry influence than scientific influence in the food pyramid! It wasn't even about getting it wrong, because they _knew_ it was wrong when it was published.
The food pyramid was always part of the fascist state, where the rules were to benefit the food industry, not our health, just as this Covid hysteria didn't benefit the people but it did benefit the medical supplies and drug industry. Just like war isn't for peace and liberty, but to benefit the military industry.
Don't forget smoking.
@@bloodgain Exactly so. The food pyramid was a stealth agricultural policy benefiting big food. Emphasizing commodity grain crops and the then-new seed oils ("healthy fats"). Ruined public health.
What is the difference between whole- and refined carbs and how they affect the body? What do the Blue Zones eat?
The sad reality is that our leaders are not operating in an intelligent fashion. In fact there is a concerted effort to make it hard for some one like me who is trying to find out the actual truth about the issues.
That is the goal confusion! Critical thinking let us make it great again
The title says it all thank you for making this video at this point it's difficult for me to trust any health professional that did not stand up to what was going on
Vinay is right about most things, he’s very sharp. Though he doesn’t know economics and doesn’t have much philosophical grounding, so don’t expect that from him. Outside of politics and just focusing on the medical scientific analysis he’s virtually 100% awesome, you should subscribe to him!
Yeah, he knows medicine. But don’t expect good economics to come from him.
Yeah he feels like someone that has devoted their life to medicine and nothing else, a sort of sheltered scientist. But a very good and principled man who has learned a great deal about how the world really works in the last 2 years.
I've been following him for a while and you could clearly see his unconditional trust in our institutions erode away day by day.
I've been watching his podcasts throughout this entire ordeal. He's been exceptionally cautious about the frauds being committed, self preservation I presume.
It took him a very long time to admit the falsehoods, even the most outrageous lies from our health agencies were difficult for him to expose . He continues this hesitancy even now and except for the most blatant and obvious lies he continues looking for anything to enable praise for their efforts. I think his obedience for trusting these agencies is so completely ingrained he will àlways assume mistakes rather than evidence of criminal intent.
@@bobthebuilder9553 I did consider that. That’s why I suggested people should subscribe to him and that he’s awesome. :) I’ve just heard some real howlers from him on economics and politics that made it clear he has a fairly sheltered academic institutional life. I’m a student of epistemology myself and I see clearly his great skill at analyzing study claims, and I see his depth of knowledge by the relative ease of recall he has for obscure domain knowledge. He’s awesome in his area - I think he’s exceptional!
@@willyD200
What are these fallacies? Can you give us examples?
Lockdowns in Canada contributed to my son suiciding. The over reach was too, too much.
So sorry for your loss.
Being in Canada now is soon going to be similar to North Korea.
@@ib9511 not if i can help stop it.
Thank you for your condolences.
@@ib9511 not if ww the people have a say, truck on citizens of Canada
You are not alone. This epidemic. I pray for you to have moments of peace. Im so sorry. Thank you for speaking out.
😢😢🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾🌺🌺🌺
Money and medicine are toxic, on so many levels. A new paradigm of compassionate, enlightened care must evolve.
This is so much needed! How do we make it so?
Never going to happen. Greed overcomes good sense. And white coat costumes hide the Pirates who Plunder your Health Wealth for their own Booty. Time for Davy Jones😏
Thank you for featuring this great doctor.we need more men of science who are not corruptedby power and politics.
One of the biggest mistakes was to allow health officials alone to suggest policy to politicians. There seemed to be zero balance between the physical health benefits of the policies enforced and the negative effects on mental health or economic health. They all need to be balanced in order to make the decision that is least harmful overall.
I completely agree. It was a see-saw with everything loaded onto the covid side. I expect to hear some back-pedalling from the compulsory jab + lockdown enthusiasts.
First and foremost the government has no right to make those decisions. 2nd without an honest doctor that is highly regarded with proof of his medical intelligence not just medical license has to be in place. There has to always be several medical opinions with something like this but each person is different that person health past and present along with side effects to make an informed decision on risk of vaccinating vs. Not vaccinating! In my opinion any medical professional who went along with vaccinating everyone no matter what shouldn't have a medical license! Children never should have been vaccinated period! Percentage wise children had more of a chance getting hit by a car than getting Covid and dying from it! I'm a nurse I'm not vaccinated nor were my children not one of us have gotten anything. I also live in a red state we only closed school for first two months in beginning! Also we haven't worn masks here since last year!
Many trade offs missed. Hopefully lessons learned
But that's the job of the politicians. They're supposed to get advice from the scientists, but it's up to them to implement policy.
@@Biologist19681 But not only from medical science. There needs to be a balance between a whole heap of disciplines before policies are enforced. Aside from that, what is comming out in covid related lawsuits now is that politicians planned to enforce policies and then asked so called scientists to come up with data or 'science' that could be used to back up the policies they had already planned to implement
One of the better discussions out there. Yet it carries a warning label.
The "label" is a good indicator, for the viewer, that valuable information is forthcoming.
I’m impressed with both the questions and answers. The very first question about masks and vaccines … (3:34) which is THE question that matters about trust in healthcare. How do health care professionals get their message across but simplify it enough to make it coherent to the public? The answer is TELL THE TRUTH, express uncertainty, explain intricacies, allow each person to do a cost benefit analysis. I wish Dr. Prasad had said it more emphatically, but he did well.
How would Pfizer make $43billion this is a war on human life a modern war by of countries through corrupted polititions
Idaho has been aggressive about limiting executive powers to prevent future mandates. Detractors have pointed out that doing so could inhibit the governor's ability to quickly respond to natural disasters, such as the frequent winter storms. The backlash to what in hindsight seem completely unjustifiable measures have a knock on effect, and those effects will undoubtedly ripple out even further. Honesty and sincerity in the begin could have done a lot to at least temper the actions of the last two years, and the re-actions that have been elicited.
"Kids are resilient." I would like to have the meaning of this canard explained to me. Resilient how. Compared to what. This is people believing what they want to believe and turning their eyes from the truth. Cowardice.
Kids are impressionable. Faces are the first interface they experience in life. Faces transmit emotional intelligence.
Kids are impressionable. Interventions in their immune system have profound effects which are permanent. They have the most to lose from medical intervention and require the most caution.
I was worried about our culture and society before covid. When I saw what was done to children to make adults feel a false comfort I realized things are far worse than I had thought. On the cusp of our greatest challenges (covid is just one thing), we have hobbled and damaged the youngest generation.
This was profoundly worded. Thank you for sharing this comment as I could never articulate this accurately but it is the precise response to the impact on children - it was all for the adults - with a huge detriment.
Exactly!
Yes we have. Grab your children love them get with other parents with your same view and live!!! The damage has been done, but step over this trash heap and create a new way
Politics ruins everything
Woke politics ruins everything.
Money in politics through industry lobbying.
Lobbies have complete carte Blanche to the occupied Hill.
i always hear fascism is government and private industry teaming together. is it actually politics? i dont know but it doesnt seem like its politics anymore
Been watching his podcast since ZDogg convinced him to start it. One of the most important and sane voices in the public discourse. Brilliant.
ZDogg is anti-biologist.
No talk about treatment and therapeutics, and the government’s neglect and willful downplay of both. That’s a very large omission from this interview, and a huge reason to distrust of our so-called “betters.”
Because every single ivermectin study came back with them not working.
And why spend thousands on medicine per sick person when vaccines are 25 bucks a piece.
Wow! Loved the dialogue in this video. I actually follow Dr. Vinay - and chose what to believe upon his updates and learning curves. Loved San Francisco in my past - great sourdough bread. Now I bake sour dough.
It drives me insane going to the store and I'll see parents putting masks on their two year olds. Never before have we been in a scenario where people suddenly stopped believing in their immune systems.
They only believe what the TV tells them to believe.
Thank you both. Dr. Vinay Prasad is the light of reason. His channel is invaluable!
Dr Prasad summed up so well what was bothered me the most over the last 2 years, "...we did too much to young people. We harmed them and we did too little for old people who are vulnerable. And the other core error was we used coercive power too much....We used power and coercion and restriction, the brute force of government and we focused on the young people." If young people lose faith in our institutions, we will only have ourselves to blame.
During this whole Covid issue, I have relied on Dr. V. Prasad, MD (USA) & Dr. John Campbell, PhD (UK). Two good men.
I totally agree with you @Dr. Vinay Prasad and thank you for the excellent sessions.
Brilliant! Wish everyone could hear this analysis to stop the madness of the world.
I really hope that people really do think lockdowns are untenable.
Dr. Prasad is an important voice in the public health conversation. As a person who has lost trust in the experts I do trust him. He can show the way forward to how to establish and maintain trust with the public.
I like Dr Vinay and have watched many of his videos. HOWEVER i don't understand why he speaks about proper trials for certain aspects. BUT he is a proponent on the drugs and thinks everyone should get it. My understanding is that these drugs have not been tested at all - let alone blind control studies. In fact so many facts are now coming to light that should make everyone be skeptical, if not be scared of these drugs.
Finally, voice of reason.
The "Public Health Official" job is also to make recommendations, not decide policy. Here in Canada, we have very well-trained and experienced Public Emergency Experts whose job i t is to take recommendations from public health officials as well as business people, and experts from all walks of life, and help politicians make prudent decisions. Why we allowed public health officials to make the final decisions for us is utterly beyond me.
Appreciate this Doc's persepctive. I'd like for him to do some research on the side effects of the vax.
The way we have treated the children tells you all you need to know about how 'sick' our culture is.
Sick? What I'm sick of is "conservatives" and patriots that didn't lift a finger to bring swift and lethal retribution for these crimes against humanity. They were doing good just to get a few feeble protests going. Instead we just watched as pastors got arrested, churches and small business forced to close, and people exercising outside and abortion protestors be arrested falsely.
We are not even close to worthy of the noble heritage given by the founding fathers, who would have been making heads roll for various reasons a long time ago.
Not only has the TREE of liberty not been watered, it is all but withered up and dead.
@@remyllebeau77 Don't forget about Donald Trump the vaccine salesman... Conservatives are too nice and complacent and will say "freedom" a thousand times without actually doing anything. Both parties are a joke now. Democrats are communists and Republicans are following them.
I am still frustrated. Working during HIV, SARS-1, H1N1 and now, SARS-2/C19. HIV quickly became a protected diagnosis. Health care workers were NOT allowed to ask any patient if they had a current or previous HIV Dx. I am still at the bedside and have seen so much suffering from non-treatment of C19. Treatment is still with held and people still suffer. Idiotic and cruel. This is about increasing wealth, power and control of the peasants. Lock downs are about training the peasants to stay home and live a virtual reality. Read Brave New World & 1984.
Are u not allowed to ask if ppl have blood transmitted disease in usa? In sweden they always ask that when they take blood.
It's just a mask." "It's just six feet." "It's just two weeks." "It's just non essential businesses."" It's just for the useless eaters" "It's just for non essential workers." "It's just for going into bars." "It's just for going to a restaurant" "It's just to keep from overwhelming the hospitals." "It's just to make the cases go down." "It's just to flatten the curve." "It's just a few inmates." "It's just to keep others from getting scared." "It's just for a few more weeks." "It's just a few more months" "It's just for a few more years" "It's just for going into church.” "It's just a small bracelet." "It's just a phone app." "It's just for tracing." It's just for tracking " " It's just more dying people " "It's just for the greater good" "It's just to let others know you're safe to be around." "It's just to let others know who you've been in contact with." "It's just a few more deaths." "It's just a large gathering" "It's just a violent protests." "It's just a vaccine." "It's just 2 vaccines" "It's just 3 vaccines" "It's just 4 vaccines" "It's just a microchip." "It's just a blood test." "It's just a scam." "It's just for medical information." "It's just a vaccination certificate." "It's just like a credit card." "It's just a few places that don't take cash." "It's just so you can travel." "It's just so you can get your driver's license." "It's just so you can vote." "It's just 20,000 more cases" "It's just another 200,000 doses" " It's just more booster shots" "It's just another booster shot" "It's just more variants" " It's just another scientific study" "It's just another injection in our bodies" "It's just more studies" "It's just to not let people make their own decisions" "It's just for people with underlying causes" "It's just more lies from the CDC" "It's just more lies from the FDA" "It's just more vaccine mandates" "It's just Fauci lieing" "It's just about get the vaccination or loose your job" "It's just the Omicron variant" "It's just no scientific evidence to back this claim" "It's just until it doesn't become a threat" "It's just time to take out these tyrannical dictators" "It's just (The New World Order.)
So true! Thanks for the outline, let us not forget. There is always an illusion of “Normal”
Reading the comments yours is the only one that makes sense. ,99.8% survival rate from covid, why would you need a Vax?
Now there are statistical reports of increase in sick people and death during 2021 as compared to the prior 5 years! What happened in 2021?
Mask and vaxx and you'll be fine
Huge mistake to confuse areas like medecine with science. Like carpentry, medecine uses science but it is 90% business once you are out of school.
I mean, science is at least 80% business after school, too. Who do you think is paying for all that research? Only a small number of academic institutions have large research budgets, and -governments- tax payers fund a bit more than that, but it's far outpaced by research done for industry.
Vinay needs to be in government. To give wisdom where there is none.
Love this dude. Pretty much got over my vaccine hesitancy thanks to him. Reasonable critique.
Might want to read the 11th Hr blog then ask yourself again if you should trust pharma
@@azsunburns I don't trust anyone bro, there's billions of people who have had it and they're completely fine. It's not the best vaccine ever made, but it's hardly the worst. And things very well could have went for the worse.
@@anem0nia knowing what they've done in the trans world & many others, I don't believe the world ever needed it. We had it too, my 77 yo mom is in a care home in CA. They freaked the elderly out & many around her were convinced they were trying to fear monger them to death. It's been horrible. What we know, they lie
@@azsunburns we still don't know anything about thus disease & the Chinese bat lady just published a paper about how the virus causes AIDS like effects in a pathway completely separate from the Spike-mediated ACE2 cell entry... I'm not saying it's airborne AIDS but I would rather take a vaccine that barely works than risk getting it
This kind of injection really doesn't seem to work as it should, and we see a huge amount of damage done through it, and we don't know how it will affect the body in the long run.
I love this doctor' s information, but I miss a little more doubt concerning the injection.
Dr. Prasad, been following your you tube channel for about 6 months! You are awesome, keep it up!
Would like to have had some evidence cited on his claim on Vaccine reducing severity of covid symptoms and death.
I stopped trusting the government when I picked up my first paycheck and I saw how much I was being taxed.
All taxation is theft.
You keep voting in people that fund huge military expenses
I am 70 and understood that the taxes I was paying from the time I started working at 16 are now part of the reason I enjoy a good retirement income now.
Oh thank you for this conversation guys. We need more of this and any hate you get for trying to be reasonable is not warranted. Stay strong and thank you
I love Vinay Prasad!
Dr. Prasad and ReasonTV. Oh, the beautiful world we live in.
I couldn’t have said it better. Not that my opinion matters and some may just call it conformational bias but I sang the same song since March of 2020.
Really enjoyed this interview! Big fan of Reason Magazine and TV!
Dr Prasad is one of a handful of people that should be given an award for their guidance throughout the last few years.
Great physician to have on to talk about these topics!
I had to check my playback speed to make sure it was still at normal speed. Kinda like listening to Ben Shapiro lol. Great conversation gentlemen!
I also thought "Hoboy, Shapiro fast-talking" within the first 2-3 minutes. :)
Ha! I’ve been listening to Dr. Prasad for months now, and that was my exact thought initially. A conversation between the two would be fun!
@@EHcinnabon oh god no
Wow even vinay's voice sounds almost the same as ben's 😂
I cannot explain how amazing all of these interviews the past few months have been. amazing work reason TV, these are some of the best things that you've ever put out
There are many older people who have had the vaccine (Covid-19), who are coming in to the hospital in higher frequency for strokes. There is also an increase in younger people coming in for blood clotting disorders and strokes. The vaccine causation is never brought up. Outlandish explanations is given to the patients for why they had a stroke.
I had an unmedicated birth in January and had to wear a mask. I could not believe it. Love Vinay!
Whaaaaat?
Had same and was upset I had to wear a mask though my spouse , the obstetrician and the nurses wear all masked and gowned. And they discontinued the oxytocin which led to me having blood clots.Jan 2021
@@lydyasakyi3969 I am so sorry to hear that :( it is pretty maddening. I should have done this sooner but I will be contacting my hospital to let them know how inhumane it is
this guy is awesome! what a get! nice work reason tv! -JC
Dr. Prasad, Zmdogg, Dr. Campbell, Dr. Weinstein and Chris Martenson are MVP during Covid stats, public health and data.
Much deserved praise and appreciation for me when I’m hella confused about trends, data and manipulation
I've been watching his channel for a while. Didn't know his "title" / Qualifications.
Even more surprising that he was willing to speak out.
Glad Reason TV reached out to him
Happy to see ReasonTV interview one of the sane voices in the COVID Era! Love his pod with Dr Zubin Damania.
The lockdown ruined my life.
Please break this video into segments for easy sharing. I found the interview very valuable, and it would be nice to grab parts of it to share as conversations happen.
Gave this a 'like' and 'subscribed.' Thank you ReasonTV.
Discrediting repurposed drugs was my turning point. Not only were they actively discredited, they were actually banned.
Loved this. Simple. Logical. Grounded in evidence (or lack thereof!)…
Mask and vaxx
It's actually a good thing that so much has been revealed about the PH, medical, pharm, scientists,
Please check out the 11th hr blog & dig in!
The Covid-19’s has uncovered much corruption. Thanks!!! Not sheep anymore
When i think if left minded thinks of the past, i think of people just like this. When did we lose site of common sense and logic, when it came to being liberal minded? We need a middle ground, and reason tv, keeps bringing it. Thanks guys
When you joined a team and became against something rather than for something.
Good video, but please stop saying we "ask" people to do x,y, or z. It's not "ask". It's "forced". And it's not "we" it's the government
Greatful that Dr. Vinay is vocal about these issues in social media, mking this criticism more acceptable and palpable for he masses.
They don't address the same issues, but BMJ editor Mr. Doshi (not sure I spelt that right) has been vocal with the flaws of medical literature and corporate incentives for over a decade but barely anyone knows his name and face. It's time criticism takes advantage of these technological platforms.
Peter Doshi has been ON POINT this entire time.
Another big mistake is gnoring and downplaying real adverse effects. Censoring and cover up not help. Forcing someone who've had reactions to go ahead and take another shot, regardless, is cuasi criminal.
How do we have safety data for 2024-2025-2030-2035-2040 and beyond for a vaccine and new technology (used in humans) that began to be used late 2020 and extensively since early 2021?
Regarding lock downs. I was raised on farms and have a farming family background. When you have a sick cow you do not lock all of the cows in the barn with the sick cow and expect the cows that are not sick to remain illness free. You segregate the sick cow from the herd and lock it into its own location away from the rest of the herd as the rest of the herd continues to graze in the fields.
No common sense used. Just Fear. Just Fear!!!
Doesn't matter what the "science" says, we ALWAYS have the right to choose.
What if my generation said that about polio and polio vaccines? Ty
@@uptick888 we still have a right to choose. Period
HOW ABOUT WE HOLD THE GOOFS ACCOUNTABLE?? MULTIPLE GOVERNORS WHO PLACED COVID-POSITIVE PATIENTS INTO NURSING HOMES COMES TO MIND 🥺
Amazing DR love His YOU TUBE channel.
Dr. Vanay is the voice of reason in the clinical & research wilderness.
Zach's backdrop makes it look like he's in an animated middle school year book photo....
Politics ruins EVERYTHING!
This discussion doesn't hit the nail in the head, People should decide what is best for them. Government should not, should never make decisions involving our health. Not even our doctors should do that without our consent. Keep off my body
Informed consent not given!!! Check out the drug commercials on TV…side effects given. Never voiced about “safe and effective “Covid 19 vaccine. Think about it. Even gardisil vaccine and aging Eric vaccine side effects are give!!!
Vinay, I admire your courage and knowledge. There are some brave people, but they lack knowledge of statistical inference. There are many statisticians and econometricians, but they lack bravery to speak loud. You're unique.
Excellent.
Cheers for Vinay on good "work" and good thinking and information. Well done. Thank you.
Love this doc!!!! He’s a critical thinker w/Tenacity and that’s sorely lacking today!
Perhaps he could comment on the Together Trial that’s so controversial.
Thanks for this conversation with VP✅ very informative
Great discussion, however, with the torrent of revelations coming out from Pfizer, Moderna, etc, I think Dr. Prasad is likely being too generous about the nature and "quality" of the so-called vaccines. We'll see.
We’re already seeing…..follow Dr Mobeen Sayed’s medical lectures explaining the metabolic implications of research findings as they trickle out. Nature of the vax could hardly be clearer….so….let’s force it on everyone regardless!
thak goodness for vinay!!!
Great interview. Thanks for balanced responses.
Brilliant. Thank you.
The sound threshold is way too low on this episode