CM Punk vs. Roman Reigns at WrestleMania?! | Busted Open
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- Dave, Tommy, and Bully talk about the explosive return of CM Punk to the WWE and theorize how the WWE will use him at WrestleMania XL.
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The promo battles between Punk and Heyman would be awesome.
And there’s a lot of history to work with.
This is not Aew to do whatever he wants. Here he's gotta follow rules. Hes no longer the locker room leader. Hes gotta humble himself and put his ego aside.
Punk was a big fish in a small pond in Aew but now hes gotta swim with the sharks.
If he screws up this time.. hes done for. Hes got noone else to blame other than himself
Punk is best unfiltered.. I hope they give him some amount of control.
@@user-gh2rv9zp3mI made a simple statement and you start rambling on about another promotion?
@@Sahil-pc2kr nobody gets fired from two different promotions. Elite sucks. Punk is no Jesus either.
If he gets fired again. That wud be a Hat-trick. 3 times. 3 times.. 3 times...
(Ps. Pun intended) (shoutout to Booker T. 5 times world champ)
@@Sahil-pc2krbros just babling at this point lmao
@@user-gh2rv9zp3m you talk like punk didnt swim with those sharks for over a decade hahahahahahahaha ffs
As many have pointed out, the final line seems to be a dig at Tony Khan, who as many voices have pointed out seems to be more concerned with making friends than making money.
Agreed, that's how I heard it.
didn't see it that way. I think he was referring to rollins and the guys who don't want him there saying they can do business even if they're not friends but to each his own
@@KC-vx5woit a double meaning depending on individual interpretation so OP is right and you are right also
My boy and I felt it was that way also. All Friends Wrestling and the elite is a modern version of the Klik. Punk was doomed the day he was hired there because the EVP’s were buddy buddy with Cabana and have the biggest dirtsheets writer on their speed dial
I think there is a line they are skipping over. When Punk said, "Not because it isn't true, but because I'm afraid of how true it is. Im home." I take that as he really didn't want to believe it, but after working somewhere else, he realized the WWE is the place he should be. That the grass wasn't greener on the other side like he thought it would be. I might be totally wrong, but that's how I broke it down.
Completely agreed with that statement
Adorable wishful thinking of the unjaded young.
Seth VS Punk night 1 Cody VS Roman night 2 stop playing
Both go over?
Why everyone says cody ?
I think Randy deserve to beat Roman at WM and be the best viper in the business. He deserves it !!!!
Both sound awesome
@@minatoyondaimehokage6487 nah I love randy but he doesn't need it. It will need to be someone they are going to push to be a mega star weather it be cody or LA knight or someone else
No why does Cody need to wrestle Roman again? I see Cody vs Randy cuz Randy is gonna go up against Roman and will lose of course but then he can cost Rhodes the chance against roman
I liked the line at the end. It cast doubt as to Punk's true intentions in WWE and created intrigue going forward. It could also be interpreted as him wanting to make money not just for himself but for the company, which is something AEW wasn't willing to do with him and the Elite.
I took it as the shot everyone was waiting for against aew. Imo people are way over analyzing those last two things he said and taking it way too personally 😂
@@Wubbit_Reacts I thought that, too. AEW is know by some as All Friends Wrestling. As for the over-analyzing of Punk's comments, WWE and Punk must be loving this, because it's keeping them in everyone's minds and conversations.
Both of what you two said is true, it creates intrigue going forward, could be a shot at AEW or guys in the back, while also saying “this is business” which is what ppl were saying about him, WWE wouldn’t take him back if it’s not what’s best for business, at AEW personal things got in the way of business, some wrestlers at AEW are taking Tony Khan while pretending it’s for business but constantly act contrary to that and like they’re in a click where mostly friends benefit and business be damned if my friends don’t like you or feel you act in a way they don’t like bc of something they perceived you did years ago that may not be true.. I personally think the line was perfect for all those reasons
The way I took the line wasn't necessary as like you said, him making money but making money as a whole for the business. Kind of like I'm here to make us all money and kick up business even more. And also as a small shot towards AEW without openly calling them out.
yep, that was directed at aew, "I am here to do good business, not to play with me friends" @@Wubbit_Reacts
I liked Punk’s line at the end. His whole promo was baby face then at the very end flips it and sprinkles a bit of heel in there at the last minute.
I’m surprised 3 guys so into the industry just don’t get it. CM Punks goal may have been a Wrestlemania main event but the real reason the frustration came was because he felt like he deserved it.
Him being ‘best in the world’ at that time wasn’t just a gimmick, he truely felt there was no one better than him in any measurable way and he held the WWE Championship for so long, even coming up against guys he didn’t want to work with and doing it while injured. CM Punk felt he deserved that Wrestlemania main event and I for one can’t argue against that.
Then lost it to a part timer
CM Punk’s issue was that he was frustrated with the same people getting the main event spot of the PPVs, besides the wrestlers that are on the show full time. You can’t get over as a main event player if you’re not in the main event or even given the opportunity to be in the main event. If you look at the landscape of the main event between 2010-2014 Only John Cena got the main event spot with in the full time locker room. The other’s were barely part timers. Those individuals were Brock Lesnar, The Rock, and Triple H. That’s where Punk’s frustration came from. Look at WM 28 the WWE championship wasn’t the last match on the card. It used to be years ago that the WWE championship goes on last regardless it brought credibility to the championship to be put on that pedestal. Like WM 18, yes Rock&Hogan was the quote on quote true main event, but the WWE Championship still went on last because the Championship always goes on last. Which is why we got Chris Jericho VS Triple H. WM 28 was Rock VS Cena, but it shouldn’t have gone on last CM Punk vs Chris Jericho was the Championship match and deserved the main event. The problem is that Vince only cared about his guys, his muscle guy’s getting the main event spot. He didn’t care or have faith in the full time main roster to headline and that started his downfall of not creating a stacked full time main event roster. WM 29 was RockVSCena and it was for the Championship so it went on last again which made the moniker “Once In A Lifetime” from the previous year redundant. CM Punk vs Undertaker was the only thing memorable about that Wrestlemania. CM Punk’s matches for both WM 28-29 were better than both Rock&Cena’s match. You can’t create the next generation of main event players if you are only giving it to the part timers and John Cena at that is what Vince did. Which made the audience not care. You never had part timers take the main event spot during the attitude era and the ruthless aggression era. Vince never liked the smaller guy’s getting over. He pretends he does, but he doesn’t. The only wrestlers he had an exception to was Bret Hart and Shawn Michaels back in the day. Punk’s frustration was Vince McMahon’s boys getting all the spots and his out of touch mindset.
During CM Punk’s time as Champion the main event picture if booked properly could have been the likes of.
Dolph Ziggler
Daniel Bryan
Sheamus
The Miz
R-Truth
Kofi Kingston
These men could’ve been pushed to the moon, but during that time most were pushed as mid card, and if they won the title then only held it once, twice if lucky and then pushed down the card again. Also the credibility of the Intercontinental Championship was wasted during that time, because it used to be that, that title was a stepping stone to the main event spot that led to the WWE Championship. Vince stopped doing that like 15 years ago starting in like 2009.
The line at the end works because he just came from a place where who you were friends with determines your spot on the card, at least in the public perception, so by saying that, he's saying he's going to be bigger than AEW ever could be and he's going to do it without having to be friends with any EVP's.
Yep, I didn't think it contradicted either because he wasn't saying he was going to be a dick to everyone, he was just saying he was there for business first.
Yea, I think that was the one line that was directed at the elite and AEW. He didn't say "I am here for the paycheck" nor he said "I am here to make myself money". What he meant was, I my opinion, "I am here to make good business, which leads to making money in general, the company and everyone involve. If we are friends cool, if we are not, cool, if we became friends with someone... cool, the main goal is business" where with the elite is... working with your buddies
Makes sense
100%@@angeltodorov5918
It’s the Wrestling BUSINESS. Which means what makes the most money? If it means getting a kinda personal or working with someone that you don’t like, you’ll do it. But I think everyone is welcoming him back because it’s a team
3:39 the reason I liked the line is because all night WWE told the audience this guy is Polarizing and controversial. So I think the next year of build is gonna be around the question “has Punk really changed”. He did this great babyface promo then finishes it with a little heel period. So he’s shows both sides early.
The storyline is right there " Has he really changed? "
Yeah thats all it was. A subtle wink at the audience letting them know what is coming
I saw it as a light jab at 'all friends wrestling'. I lost count at how many feuds were 'you were my friend' based lol
and you had Seth saying how hypocrite he is. I think that he was being purposely hypocritical to build the feud
I love it aswell, CM Punk is at his best as a tweener. He has to much ambition to be a full on babyface, but at the same time having so much heart to be a full blown heel. Also, people missed out that he said that line after he mentioned that there were people who didn't like him there, who were afraid that he set the bar to high.
I do believe punk saying he’s home.
Listen, humans are not simple. We’re often angriest and most upset with people/things when we love and care about them.
The heartbreak he felt at WWE, was because he cared.
WWE was his true love, his first wife.
AEW helped him heal …
this.
Meh, I think it's pretty obvious that the character he's playing right now is supposed to be everything Seth Rollins says he is, a hypocrite. Punk doesn't work as a babyface, he has to be a heel in WWE, and he's setting it up perfectly. He's being a good boy, talking about how he's home and and how people kissed him on the mouth welcoming him back. He showed his hand at the end by saying "I'm not here to make friends, I'm here to make money." What we saw Monday night was an illusion, but the veil will soon be lifted and we'll get the heel Punk we love to hate.
I doubt it only because they are going to eventually going to want to have Roman vs Punk in 2024 or 2025 at WrestleMania, and someone has to be the Babyface.
@@chiefzackery6651 It won't be CM Punk.
I think that last line was a shot at AEW, that the Bucks and Omega wouldn't do buisness after the backstage fight. I think Punk realized the grass always looks greener
The money comment was a snide hit on AEW. Ppl call it “all friends wrestling “. The big thing with AEW was that everyone was friends and it was not about doing what’s best for business but to not hurt feelings.
Where is the section with Dub & Ross from In The Clutch? I’ve been waiting lol
He started with a Brett Hart line & closed with a Scott Hall line. I’m surprised none of you guys picked up on that. It was intentional, the tone he wanted, & planting seeds to grow over time. HHH has demonstrated a commitment to long term storytelling & this lets him do the face antihero thing until they want to turn him heel.
The WWE bench is incredibly deep right now. Their star power is unmatchable!
Looking like the 86 Celtics
It was a nice feeling and reminded me of old Wrestling days before we knew everything through Internet before it even happened. It is so rare these days that this return of CM PUNK was so awesome.
I love how Bully is able to take the perspective of others for every topic. I wish more people were able to do that, especially online.
I want a deep story line with Roman and Heyman and Punk. There is a lot more to tell and make out of than with Seth.
Punk VS Roman come on guys he’s coming in hot he’s coming in the baby face so wh@ your going to wait another year for the next Wrestlemania to have it no!!!! They have lighting in a bottle and the time is NOW!!!!!!
@urielgarcia6319 with Seth's displeasure. SETH vs PUNK is the better story
I don’t usually do this but I have to! This was by far the best wrestling podcast episode of our time. I’m a big wrestling fan and never watched this podcast before but you definitely have a new fan of that counts for anything. Thank you guys it’s been a pleasure listening while I work from home playing daddy daycare aswell.
Also, it'd be really dumb to not have Cody win the title from Roman at Mania. Punk vs Rollins at Mania makes Rollins' title important. Cody vs Rollins makes it seem like Cody is getting a consolation prize. And Jade versus anybody has no business being the main event of a regular PPV, nevermind any night of Mania.
Punk vs Rollins or Reigns ould be great, think Punk vs Reigns would be a better story cause you can bring up how The Sheild was formed and he didn't want Reigns in the group
@@hbq3000 if i may just Fantasy book for a moment? Rollins dodges Punk as WHC champion. He is fighting champion VS everyone else, but Punk, for him, doesn't deserve a title shot. At least not until he EARNED it.
Punk wins the RR, Cody maybe a No. 1. Contenders Elimination Chamber.
Punk beats Rollins at WM Night 1, Cody beats ROman on Night 2.
Then, either Punk goes to SD or Cody and ROman swap places (so that belts are on both shows) and Roman and Punk start their feud, with Heyman being caught in the middle.
Facts especially since AEW Goldberged her ass. So you don’t know what type of match she can have. If it’s Jade vs Charlotte vs Bianca I’m down for it
Roman vs Cody and Punk vs Seth is the safest and the logical path
HOWEVER lets have some fun with this. Punk faces Roman (dont care about winning RR or not), Paul turns on Roman, Punk becomes the heel, something he flourishes at, Roman becomes baby face. Roman takes his break (not sure from what but he wants it) and the Bloodline story is over. And Punk goes on as a heel...
On to Cody... things changes... you are not the number one guy anymore... sorry, the money maker is here and his name is not Cody and is not Jay. It's the only guy that took N1 merch sales from Cena back in the day. If WWE desides that Punk is the way to go with Roman... sorry kid, your story doesnt matter.
My personal wish is Punk and Roman never to face. Punk needs to be in the ring with great wrestlers to protect him, I am not saying that Roman is unsafe nor dangerous... but its better for Punk to be in the ring with proven 100% workers to max his value and keep him healthy.
With Punk winning the title from Roman and aligning with Paul, IF he did get injured you still have Hayman driving the promos week to week while he is healing
Orrrr another one.
Why not Hayman having two world champions, one on Raw and one on SmackDown. Two heels, both under the undisputed wiseman
When was the last time we were able to speculate about SO MANY possible storylines and matches that would awesome in WWE? What a great time
Exactly
Who does Orton get at Mania?
The promo was two-faced on purpose. Let's not forget what Seth said earlier on the show, he called Punk a hypocrite.
Let's also not forget another line from Punk.
"I'm here take everything I want from this place"
CM Punk is Mr. Anti-Establishment, this will all lead to him dropping the facade and we get back the Punk that hates the establishment. And that's the Punk "we" enjoy the most.
This is why punk is very good on TV , Punk did a 5 min promo and its gets debates and dissected as if its a literacy piece 😉 you love to see it
Exactly. It was like reading a book. Cm punk left a total cliffhanger
Yeah😁
Punk IS a heel now in WWE. He already told us he "remembered who he was." And who was Punk long ago in ROH? A Badass anti hero heel. I am looking forward to watching him him show Roman who the better heel is. Roman is NOT on Punks heel level and that right there is what I believe Punk was going for in his raw promo
Is it possible when punk said, "I'm not here to make friends, I'm here to make money" he was teasing Seth Rollins? That actually goes back to a promo Triple H did with Seth when he said, "If you ain't making enemies, you aren't making money" I could be reaching there, but it seems logical with the Seth/Punk rivalry brewing.
Yeah agreed
When he was dissing all the scared wrestlers and said "he's not here to make friends,he's here to make money" ,lines were towards people like Seth(who didn't like him returning) I don't think he was dissing his friends he already has( I think its better way to say it is he's not here to make anymore new friends)
Exactly… these guys misunderstood and spent most of the show on their wrong premise
mannn I could listen to a 5 hour podcast with these guys on the current state of WWE wrestling is winning AND IT FEELS GREAT YEAHHHHHH
I think they're looking at it wrong. I think that Punk was sending messages in BOTH Promos. The AEW Promo was him really getting closure, and trying to prove a point to AEW, and WWE. Same thing with this Promo, but he's sending different Points to each Company. I believe he's trying to send the message to WWE that he has changed his way of thinking, and is willing to play Ball, as long as he's respected. I think that last shot was aimed at certain people in AEW.
makes me think this is more likely the reason however the punk hypocrite angle with seth is up there too
Sureeee. You should know that after a certain age, people don’t change. He’ll pucker up, until he has some power, then become a douche again
With the last line in Punk's promo, I think he was talking to the people who had an issue with him, and just as a general statement. Like, when he said "I'm not here to make friends", I think he's saying that he's not here to win anyone over that already dislikes him, he's here to rake in the fat stacks.
I love this podcast. Specially this episode. Love seeing you guys fantasy book and talk about predictions😊
My second time listening, where have I been?? I was living in a world where JDFROMNY is the only podcast
24:58 that exact point is probably what the issue was in AEW. There was The Elite they are great, but Punk was the star. Hopefully that realization is why Punk was able to come back to WWE
That Lenser, Reigns and Punk thing would be 🔥
I think we're probably going to get Roman vs. Punk at Summerslam 2024 whether Roman loses the Title at Mania or not. By that point, I think from a creative perspective I'd already have Jimmy walk away and maybe try to reconcile with his brother on RAW, assuming they have their WM Match at 40, then Jimmy leaving causes Roman to go a little harder on Solo, causing Solo to leave. So by that point, Heyman is the only one left with Roman and they play up the same thing they did with Brock but crank it up a few levels and this time, Heyman turns on Roman to help Punk win, rejoining Punk and leaving Roman without a Tribe. That's when Roman goes away for awhile, maybe a year but when he comes back, he's obviously no longer the Tribal Chief since he doesn't have a Tribe but a new Heel character as he spends that year reinventing himself and coming up with a new, even more dominant Heel character moving forward.
Shoutout to Dave for the Notsam shirt, two peas in a wrestling pod. This is one of the best clips posted yet, three professional fans laying out the next phase of WWE's new golden era, very enjoyable.
Roman, Brock and Punk in a ring. Heyman on the outside, jaw dropped.
That's how you manufacture "This is awesome" chants.
This is probably the best 1hr video of Busted Open ever. My 9 year old son was sitting here and watched the last 45 minutes with me and he was so excited about all the scenarios brought up, watching that gleam in his eyes and excitement come over him just got me so amped up for the next 4 months til Mania
make him sit for the next one bro, he need to hear the truth & the facts again
Come on now guys, we all know the line at the end of Punk’s promo was most likely directed toward the Elite and Seth Rollins.
Exactly! 😂😂😂they wasted the show
I think the "I'm not here to make friends" line was directed at Seth. Because he did also say "almost" everyone was welcoming backstage
i still think Seth and Him will be Main event of night 1. I also think the not here to make friends meaning the locker room (i get he said the locker room welcomed him with open arms) so The Fans he still can be back for.
Imagine if Roman and Punk form a two-man power trip like Austin-HHH, with Paul Heyman managing two superstars
man, I don't even watch WWE, but this one podcast episode has me extremely interested in watching again just to see how things play out.
Also....I love how they sort of glossed over the fact that Wrestlemania is going to be in Philly this year - which could just add more fuel to the fire.
This was really good! Thanks guys, a lot of new scenarios for WM
Wow. First time listener.. I’ve always knew about the show, just didn’t have a chance to listen… blown away.
Man y’all gave me goosebumps with these wrestlemania ideas!! IM HYPED!!🔥🔥🔥
With all the talk about punks last line I think that was aimed at Tony khan not wwe or the fans
I think this promo was fantastic if you picked up on what he was doing. Him coming off as a hypocrite by saying "Im not here to make friends, im here to make money" immediately after kissing the fans asses and talking about how its been nothing but love and hugs was kind of the point. He's being a disingenuous hypocrite putting on a good guy facade and that last little line when he put the mic down was the real him. I think thats kind of what his character is going to be going forward.
I dont know I think it was a shot at AEW. "Im here to make money" is basically "I'm here to do business". It might be a shot at the Bucks and Omega. After their backstage spat the Bucks and Omega refused on multiple occasions to meet with Punk to hash things out, when the best thing for business would have been Punk feuding with the Elite. They let childish Problems get in the way of making money.
@@marcespinoza6068exactly!
That’s and “the most ‘feared’ man in the industry” line was a shot at Khan/AEW
Plus, according to reports was that his time was supposed to be around 15 mins but, timing issues with Orton/Dom match is what makes the promo “less than” and forced.
Naaa he later said not everyone in the locker room was happy so that whole “hypocrite” point is baseless
I think the "I'm not here to make friends" line was directed at Seth. Because he did also say "almost" everyone was welcoming backstage
@@ehi80my thoughts exactly
Tommy Dreamer has a great voice for radio / podcast.
My question is what happens to the LA Knight push? I felt the ending of survivor series with CM punk and Orton returning derailed his momentum
I think Knight will take the IC belt.
Knight's push is like Sami's push, it's a ground swell and management will run with it...but they aren't altering any overarching plans for it.
@@riffcrypt8438 I thought knight was a red hot face in route to a wrestlemania main event spot. Maybe Punk or Orton have a heel turn coming because the wwe is face heavy. Mega main event stars all at once is huge.
Tommy Dreamer's answers and opinions on this is why he was ljt retained or brought back by WWE aa a producer
@@The495marauderknight vs Orton with knight winning
I want to see CM Punk vs LA Knight at Wrestlemania. In the lead up to Mania the promo battles between the two would be awesome and then having Knight go over at Mania will put him in the perfect position to get a World Title.
I love it
I would to but it most likely gonna be la knight vs logan paul. As more speculation comes out im starting to think because there saying rollins vs punk at the royal rumble they either going to have a rubber match at mania with them as a build up or a triple threat of roman cody and cm punk and cody would win
Knight wins rumble punk vs Austin
@@blakemaxfield4267 why would knight win the rumble makes no sense. There gonna book him against logan paul for U.S championship at mania
Reigns and punk is the best move. I'm sick of everyone just going along with the most predictable story because we've been conditioned to not like unexpected stories... I want mystery now after years of predictability
CM Punk/Roman Reigns double turn at WM would make people's heads spin.
Also don’t ignore the fact that he dissed all the “scared” wrestlers in the back…
Would Punk vs Gunther get to interact with each other? If so, I would love to see this match!
Tommy saying The Rock got me thinking of another story. Of course most would think of Rock vs Roman but Punk vs Rock makes sense too. The story is Punk saying “not only did you take away and end my 434 day title reign but even most importantly you also took away my WrestleMania main event, you took away my Spot”. Just throwing out ideas, but man i can’t wait to see how this all plays out. so excited for it all.
Jesus!!! You guys talk about blowing Dave’s mind, YOU BLEW MY MIND!!!! These types of discussions happen with fans on a daily basis and to see pros like Tommy & Bully get into it?🤯
Tommy and Bully are on point, the "I'm not here to make friends" line undid everything that was just uttered before
I really enjoyed these discussions
When we eventually get to it, Punk V Cody going to feed GENERATIONS!
One of my favorite wrestlemania main events ever is Triple H, Benoit, & Shawn Michaels. Wouldn’t mind seeing Reins, Cody, & Punk. Rollins & Punk however is big time money & something no one remembers here is Punk had The Shield with him. Reigns & Punk storyline is there in many ways outside of Paul
I interpreted the last line being directed to Rollins/Reigns and McEntire. I think he was referring to them right before when he said "well, almost everybody is happy to see me" and AEW.
Reminds me of that Venom line from the Tom Hardy movie...
So many snacks, so little time.
You've got Seth vs Jey next week, do you have RKO get his bloodline revenge on Jey, or does Priest cash in or does Drew interfere?
Either way that likely leads to a grudge match for Jey so then Seth vs Sami? RKO receipt for Sami in the Bloodline to spoil that.
I think you do that on TV and ultimately the Seth Punk snipes and various grudges lead to a champ match at Rumble...
Where you go from there i dont know. People saying Punk Seth for WM night 1 probably means Seth retains the title?
So many options... and really good ones.
I'm honestly just excited about this year's Rumble. Any Rumble that features enough high level stars that you truly can't predict the winner is an amazing Rumble.
I hope so cause im planning on going
Hell yeah! Glad to see One of my ECW favorites TOMMY DREAMER
God damn. Love listening to wrestling guys talk wrestling. Every scenario is great.
71 millions views on social media is a lot more easier to do than to get 71 million people to watch it live as it happens. Still a very impressive number though in a short amount of time. Not taking anything away from it.
I think that’s what most people wait for though, they wait for the upload to CZcams channel and then watch it.
Which is probably one of it not the main reasons why “ratings” haven’t done as well as say 10/15/20 years ago in WWE.
You don’t need to sit through 3 hour long shows or 6 hour long PPV’s anymore.
Just to pitch an idea : how cool would it be to see Cody finish his story against Punk ? The guy who dropped the Pipebomb against the guy who actually did what the pipebomb said ? The biggest main event on AEW history … but in WWE
Probably
That'd be great, but I feel like since they already had Cody lose to Roman in the main event of mania once, anything other than Cody beating Roman in the main event of mania to avenge that loss will leave the story feeling unfinished.
I can tell you this, Bubba. I watched raw, almost all the way through, (at least had it on in the background) for the first time in probably 5 years. I still catch highlights. But yeah, CM, and Randy being back, made a difference.
to be honest, i dont think CM Punk's issues were ever with the WWE, his issues were with Vince McMahon. with him out.. WWE can be his home.
I like how excited they all are, love the WrestleMania 17 shout out (my first mania, first live wrestling show and I’m in the UK so that’s 1am to 5ish)
I’m going
Roman Reigns vs Cody Rhodes
CM Punk vs Seth Rollins
Randy Orton vs Gunther
LA Knight vs Logan Paul
Jey USO vs Jimmy USO
Rhea Ripley vs Becky Lynch
Charlotte Flair vs Bianca Belair
Damien Priest and partners vs Judgment Day
Bayley and partners vs Damage CTRL
John Cena vs Solo Sikoa
3 or 4 team TLC match for the Tagteam titles
Bron Breakker will be in action
(Jade Cargill wins Royal Rumble 2025)
I was thinking this also. Part of punks deal may have been that he gets the main event at wrestlemania. Plus it’s good business to have punk in the main event vs Roman reigns. However storyline wise, it wouldn’t make sense to not give Cody the rematch at mania to win the title. I think they have to see that story out until the end.
I believe the line at the end was towards Seth. He has his friends backstage already. He doesn't need to make more friends, he wants to do business, make money and a rivalry with Seth is that, they don't gotta be friends, they just gotta do business and make money out of the probable real heat they got. Pluss the whole AEW thing plays into that too.
Yep. These guys missed it and wasted a good portion of the show lol
@ehi80 Yeah lol idk how people can miss that! It's so obvious dude. Look at Shawn and Bret, real life heat, they made money out of it, Edge and Matt, real life heat, made money out of it. It's not the first time it's been done, it's good business lol something that the guys in AEW didn't understood and just let go of the guy instead of taking advantage of the situation 🤣 People gotta learn. When it comes to work, work comes first, friendships come later lol I thought that was a Universally known thing haha
Great Show Guys! I really enjoyed it. Personally I’d like to see Punk V Roman but I doubt that’s going to happen right now & there’s absolutely no chance WM40 will approach X7.
I was fine with the promo because it's not Punk unleashed yet. We have months before the Rumble and HHH takes his time with stories. Rollins and Punk mentioned eachother but not by name. Next we get direct mention and response. Finally we get face to face and then there's the challenge. I think they'll let the fans decide who the heel is.
He takes his time too much and it's boring in the meantime
@@blakemaxfield4267 It's fine to feel that way, but it does add context to the promo. Punk can't go further than the script.
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If I close my eyes and listen, Dave sounds like Vince Russo 😂 💀
That last line is what Scott Hall said to so did everyone jump on Scott for that.
These guys are oddly over critical
Not to mention punk brought the shield in the Paul angle and this win for Roman would solidify even further as the Goat
The last line wasn't for the fans or locker room, it was for his former locket room.
Punk drew the most ppv buys in AEW ever. I though the last line at the end was a middle finger to them.
Love the Podcast gentlemen. Didn't disagree with anything that was said
I think that comment Punk made as Raw went off the air was directed towards Seth and got blown way out of proportion
Yesss these guys clearly don’t understand and wasted the show beating on it
But the fact that he said he is scared how true those two words “I’m home” actually are lends perfectly to his delivery, the context and his demeanor I’m the promo. If you listen in it’s entirety it makes more sense
It makes so much more sense to do Seth vs. Punk and Roman vs. Cody II at WM then doing Punk vs. Roman.
I feel like tha last line was a flash of the punk everyone is/was expecting outside of the Disney movie tone he was giving off during the promo
I understand where Bully is coming from saying the promo was safe but I think the promo was crafted intelligently. I know Punk is smart with his words and the intension of his words so I think the proper term to describe the promo was "calculated".
100% agree with the punk, lesnar and reigns staredown, I'm hoping it's clearly reigns vs punk or lesnar for the title, reigns comes out first looking confused because Heyman isn't around, then later near the end Heyman comes out and says I'm so sorry that I betrayed you, Reigns beats up the other guy in anger but it's not that guy that he was talking about, it's the other 1/3 and they have the money in the bank and cash in to win. Punk and Austin would be awesome too
That Roman Brock Punk pitch is something.
Ryback: Hey, make it a four-way. I'm here!
You could also do an all Heyman six-man: Punk, Brock, Jey vs Roman, Solo, Jimmy.
Great content.. great conversation
I took that last line was a subtle shot at how aew puts friends over drawing money and ratings . Maybe at Seth Rollins too. He did say “almost everybody” during te primo. People just love to knit pick at him for some reason .
Curveball, Cena comes back and Punk is like “HOLD IT RIGHT THERE. I NEVER GOT MY CM PUNK ICECREAM BARS!”
I take the "I'm not here to make friends" line as being like "if you're cool with me that's cool, but if you want to fuck with me I'll fuck with you." But I think that's for storyline purposes to help set up the Seth feud and stuff like that. He alluded to people being unhappy immediately after the bit about hugs and kisses
Fantastic conversation
You know I got to go with what Tommy is saying here because CM Punk was truly the very first Paul Heyman guy. So what if some of the hurt from his WWE past has to do with that betrayal in the first place? I think Punk vs Reigns would be huge and it should end with Paul finally screwing Reigns and going with Punk
I literally dream booked punk and Austin for wrestlemania night 1 and I so happy to hear bully to feel the same way as me. I would pay an insane amount of money to witness punk vs Austin.
94’ rumble finish is how it should be booked. Punk and Cody go over and land at the same time. Each gets to pick their title match.
I would love to see Punk take on the Tribal Chief at WrestleMania and for Heyman to turn on his Tribal Chief and realign with Punk. Punk did mention "wise man" several times in his promo on Monday.
You guys are thinking of it slightly off. He said that line meaning that he's not going to worry about upsetting anybody or what they think about him. He's only there to make money meaning big business, ratings, and a great product.
Tremendous work with his promo table set for business beautiful job with the controversial statement at the end of Punks promo. NIAGARA AL
Punk and Roman with Paul Heyman as the main event night 2 would be huge. Cena vs Punk MITB 2011 atmosphere vibes. And you put that on Mainia 40. Best Wrestlemania. You can have a whole summer of Seth vs Punk after Wrestlemania.
It needs to be a triple threat, Cody vs Punk vs Reigns at Mania
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The only thing about the last line I wish he had done was saying it on the mic. The crowd would have popped for that because I’m sure they would have understood the meaning.