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As of today, February 15 2021, Throne of Eldraine now ties for 5th place on this list. before this banned and restricted update, it tied for 7th, and 6th. In Standard there are currently six banned cards from this set:
Cauldron Familiar,
Escape to the wilds,
Fires of Invention,
Lucky Clover,
Oko, Thief of Crowns,
Once Upon a Time.
Three cards from ELD are banned in Modern:
Oko, Thief of Crowns,
Once Upon a Time,
Mystic Sanctuary (new, also banned in pauper).
Oko, Thief of Crowns is also now banned in Legacy.
A small error: yawgmoths bargain isnt Urza’s Legacy but Urza’s Destiny. This happens at the nr 6 spot.
There's a ton of errors in this one. For instance, he says Ice Age has 5 cards banned, while the background reads 4 and he only lists 4.
@@derpallardie - That is two errors. Not a tonne.
@@derpallardie so many errors, this video should be banned
I AM A SEXY SHOELESS GOD OF WAR!!!
"alpha was loaded with power" also notice that all alpha spells here are non-creatures. Cause every creature sucked.
Almost every creature. Let's not forget Birds of Paradise, Serra Angel, etc
Serra angel is bad? Unless I'm thinking of the wrong creature
@@drago5819 Serra Angel isn't bad. It is still a Limited powerhouse today, and back then because creatures were so weak it was one of the best
First turn Dark Ritual into Hypnotic Specter
There were some decent ones Sengir Vampire, Hypnotic Specter, Serra Angel, Shivan Dragon, Black and White Knight, Giant Spider, Savannah Lions and Water Elemental while none of these are amazing by today's standards they would be good in a lot of limited decks (and still are in the case of a few that have gotten reprintings recently). Lord of Antlantis is great for merfolk decks. And BOP and Llanowar Elves are powerful enough to be in many green decks today(especially BOP). But yeah, other than BOP none of the cards are really a slam dunk
Nizzahon, how about a Top 10 about cards that changed rarities. I mean cards that were first printed for example as uncommons and reprinted as rares, like Loxodon Warhammer.
Or Aether Vial that went from Uncommon in Darksteel to Mythic Rare in a Masters set, of all things.
Didn't Murder recently change rarity?
@@slimek20 yep, went from uncommon to common
@@jessesmith4207 murder was originally a common in M10 I believe, being reprinted at uncommon in eldritch moon, then again at common in every subsequent set except M19 i think
Rarity shifts
I'm actually kinda surprised to not see any New Phyrexia stuff on here
Afaik there were only two cards banned, Mental Misstep and Gitaxian Probe.
@@Ringbearer79 Birthing Pod too
You should do, at some point, a top 10 cards of Nizzahon's top 10 lists (basically the cards with the most points across the entire mtg game)
1. birthing pot
2. Lightning bolt
4. Dismember
3. Skull clamp
I can already tell you the top 5 : The basic land.
Ahh, Mirrodin...
Cloudpost + Disciple of the Vault + Myr Retriever + Skullclamp/Atog.
My first starter Magic deck and the main reason why I love Sac/storm decks
Squandered Resources have my most favorite text in any mtg card. So strong.
Is there/What about a video about old magic rules? e.g. mana burn, priority during damage step, etc.
Probably you already thought about it but still love the idea
Top 10 ante cards.
@@aaronbasham6554 That's easy. All 10 slots are taken by Contract from Below.
What is mana burn?
@@Meowvela In the early days, when a phase ended, any mana you had in your mana pool not only went away, but also damaged you for 1. So you took a damage for each unspent mana you'd generated.
Getting rid of mana burn was just another finger to red burn. I play a mana flare which, back in those days, would put my opponent in a pickle since 1 mana spells would damage him.
Tbh you should've included kaladesh block as a whole.
Standard:
- aetherworks Marvel
- smugglers copter
- attune with aether
- Rogue refiner
- felidar guardian
EDH:
- Paradox Engine
- Baral, Chief of compliance (French commander)
Cards broken enough to be banned:
- Aetherflux resovior (EDH, Vintage, Legacy)
- Whir of Invention (modem, if the format allows it. It currently doesn't, but i believe it can)
On top of all of that, Scrap Trawler was on the chopping block when KCI was big, but unstead KCI itself was banned. The block was completely broken and, imo, should've been included as a whole block
If I was doing blocks that would be a different list
I wish you would have showed each of the cards that were banned/restricted, even if you didn't discuss each one.
Great analysis, fun video!
I'm a simple man. I see a memory jar thumbnail, I click the video.
It’s one of my all time favourite artifacts to play. Great for card draw and disrupting your opponent’s plans 😈😂
As of today, Throne of Eldraine would tie for 5th place with 7 total banned cards.
Oko, Once Upon a Time, Cauldron Familiar, Lucky Clover, Escape to the Wilds, Fires of Invention and Mystic Sanctuary.
Eldraine also has the distinction of being the newest set in almost 15 years to reach 7+ bans.
I watch your new uploads before i go to sleep every night and its become something i really look forward to before bed
As of today, October 12 2020, Throne of Eldraine now ties the 7th and 6th place sets on this list. before this banned and restricted update, it tied for 8th, 9th and 10th (and 5 spots just off the bottom of the list). In standard there are now six banned cards from this set:
Cauldron Familiar
Escape to the wilds
Fires of Invention
Lucky Clover
Oko, Thief of Crowns (also banned in modern)
Once Upon a Time (also banned in modern)
Edit: Omnath was not from Eldraine. I don't know why I put him there instead of the lucky clover.
At this point, I'm really cheering for Eldraine to go the distance. Crack top 3 maybe?
@@LegendaryO34 I think there is a good chance Eldraine makes the top 5. only one more ban to tie for 5th; and it would probably be handed the tie breaker as only one of its currently banned cards would even be argued as weak instead of 5. Top 4 is harder but very much possible. Eldraine would probably get the tie breaker here as well; since 5 of the bans for legends were just not very powerful. Top 3 is probably beyond the set. Getting a tie for 3rd would require 4 more bans, and I don't think Eldraine would take the tiebreaker over Urza's saga. The possibility for 5 more bans exists, but is limited. There is still a fair sized list of cards that might get the axe in some format:
Castle Locthwain - powerful low-deck-cost draw engine
Bone Crusher Giant - powerful red aggro for standard, could help enable another red deck wins
Fabled Passage - could be making mana too good in standard, historic and pioneer
Embercleave - already shown to be powerful, could be the top end blowout for red deck wins
Robber of the Rich - unlikely but it's a rouge and it's aggressive
Drown in the Loch - it's an uncommon that is $3.50, it is powerful, especially now that dimir is a thing again
Rankle, Master of Pranks - powerful rouge, we'll see how it works out in standard
Emery - sees some play in legacy, it could definitely break something
Brazen Borrower - where doesn't this see play? could easily prove too powerful for standard
Mystic Sanctuary - I have seen this land do disgusting things; it's probably going to be banned somewhere
Hey Nizzahon, you've mentioned Goblin Recruiter a few times so far about it being banned in Legacy, and mention its ability for enabling Goblin Decks. That unfortunately doesnt line up with the historical reasoning as why it was banned. When Legacy was made from Type 1.5, there were 3 of the most powerful decks in the format, and Wizards banned a piece of all of these to try and provide more breathing room for brewing decks. These decks were a Worldgorger Dragon Combo deck, which had Bazaar of Baghdad banned, the other was Shops, which had Mishras Workshop banned, and Food Chain Combo was the other best deck, and had banned Goblin Recruiter from it.
Always love these videos. Please never stop making them! :D
Nice video N, have you done one on the history of Lands? For instance the creation of dual lands in alpha, only 15 lands were printed in that set, 10 of which are duals. (Minus Volcanic island) Then the progression of Wizards "dual" lands like depletion lands, seems like it would be a great topic for a video from your caliber of style!
A top 10 dual land cycles might be a fun video. Maybe you would have to exclude standard.
3:56 5 cards but the box says 4 cards banned?
You know a card is busted when you can say "Gaea's cradle was a little less impressive"
Winefall? Sounds like someone was thinking of something else :P
yeah that was weird, I heard him say "Wind" Like Winding up string.....Ive never heard someone call it that before
WhinedFall
Winedfall - had to dig through comments to see if anyone else heard lol
A fine birthday present, nizzahon!!! You win a sub!
Happy birthday!
Top 10 banned mechanics.
Could be intriguing.
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@@NizzahonMagic come on ante needs to bet on being number 1
Very original list! I love it! Keep it going :)
How can you be so FRESH? I like almost all of these because the topics are just getting more and more intriguing. Others would be unable to come up with better ideas as the time goes on BUT you do this with profession! 👍
Thanks!
Mirror Universe used to be broken, the rules changes surrounding when the game checks to see if a player is dead from damage made the card worse.
It used to be that you could put your life at zero and you didn't check until the end of the phase to see if you were dead, you could go into the negatives during a phase, and then gain that life back, and you wouldn't be considered dead. Mirror Universe let you play a control deck, let your opponent deal a lot of damage to you, mana burn yourself and swap life with the opponent to win the game. It very literally was a 6 mana card that said "win the game" because of how the rules worked.
So basically whenever they want to print powerful artifacts, there’s a problem? I was surprised to see Mirrordin beat out Urza’s Brokenness.
I almost expected Kaladesh to be on the list, seeing how utterly broken some cards were, but I don't think many of them were banned. The only one that comes to mind is Copter.
Edit : Forgot Aetherworks Marvel.
@@Ceracio the marvel was too
Szadek29 copter marvelworks attune refiner. 4 cards
85mcarnold Mirrodin had more cards broken to standard but on termd of raw power Saga wins by a landslide.
Yeah, I don’t think people were able to pull of turn 1 or 2 kills in Mirrodin block like how they were back during the Urza’s block tournaments. Back then people were killing each other by turn 1 or 2. In Standard. Prior to them being banned out of existence, they were good enough to compete with any Vintage decks of the time. The Megrim/Jar deck could knock an opponent down to 6 life first turn, and the Academy deck would usually be able to mill an opponent out by turn 3 at the latest. “Black Summer” Necropotence decks and even the Affinity decks of Mirrodin block before the bans were still not as powerful as the “Combo Winter” decks. The Urza’s Block may not have had quite as many cards banned as some others, but they remain to this day some of the most powerful ever printed. Windfall, Yawgmoth’s Will, Tolarian Academy, Tinker and Memory Jar are still banned in Legacy and restricted in Vintage, and Yawgmoth’s Bargain is banned in Legacy. Even with the Affinity mechanic, the Mirrodin block can’t beat that kind of fast mana, card draw, graveyard usage, and being able to cheat out any big Artifact threat in your deck for such a low mana cost.
I never really thought about it, but in the flavour text for Squandered Resources, he didn't trade life for sand, he traded sand for life. He won that one
Speaking of Flash and Power Level errata, is there any chance you'd talk about the story of wizard's making power level and functional errata?
MaRo and, I believe, other people at WotC have repeatedly stated that would not do that.
Umm... I guess we’re just going to forget when ALL of Kahn's block was ban-hammered before release... >_>
No idea what you're talking about. Khans of Tarkir did not have cards banned before release.
Oh boi another video with Bazaar of Baghdad lol
My magic collection shivers for your videos.
Another great video! What about top ten cards that have been reprinted the most?
And now Eldraine is on this list. Didn't even need a year
Speaking of dredge I created a commander strategy that uses it, the commander is varolz the main theme is scavenge and infect but dredge powers up both because of scavenge being in my deck its so fun to play I'm quite proud of my creation
Man, I wish we had a few if these in modern today. Mirrodin and Arabian Nights would be fun to have some unbans.
i noticed the flavor text for squandered resources and mystic tutor are related
Am I the only one who actually enjoyed combo winter? I loooooong for the days when they actually printed good cards.
Standard says hello
I built my own Vintage legal version of something like the days of Combo Winter, with a few other Vintage restricted cards;
Tolarian Academy, Tinker, Memory Jar, Yawgmoth’s Will, Windfall, Lotus Petal, Vampiric Tutor, Lion’s Eye Diamond (with Echo of Eons for a lower budget version of Black Lotus and Timetwister), Mana Vault, Mana Crypt, Sol Ring, Demonic Tutor, as well as 4x Liliana’s Caress, 4x Lightning Bolt, some Counterspells and Dark Rituals. The idea is kinda like the Megrim/Jar deck, before Memory Jar was Emergency Banned lol
@@SephonDK standard hasn't had any playable cards for 20 years. What are you talking about?!?!?!?
I was wondering where throne of eldraine was until I saw the release date of this video
I was thinking maybe Lorwyn or Original Ravnica, but damn
Little known fact about Falling Star - players used to tear the card into confetti and shower it all over their opponent's board.
That's actually Chaos Orb.
@@NizzahonMagic Oh, that's right! I forgot about that card! Thanks for the correction.
As of a few days ago, May 13 2024, Throne of Eldraine WOULD have tied 4th place on this list with eight banned cards. Before this banned and restricted update, it tied for 5th. I say WOULD because Unfinity had to go and get FIFTY SIX CARDS BANNED IN LEGACY. I had previously predicted that ELD could tie for 4th and it seems I would have been right (unless you count Ikoria's errata to ten cards; then ELD has to settle for tying 5th). I honestly think this video is due for a remake now; maybe even another episode in the History of the Banned and Restricted List.
ELD had (the set has since rotated) six cards banned in Standard:
Cauldron Familiar,
Escape to the wilds,
Fires of Invention,
Lucky Clover,
Oko, Thief of Crowns,
Once Upon a Time.
Three cards from ELD are banned in Modern:
Oko, Thief of Crowns,
Once Upon a Time,
Mystic Sanctuary.
Two cards are now banned from ELD in Pauper:
Mystic Sanctuary,
All That Glitters.
Oko is still banned in Legacy.
edit: counting is hard.
Never knew so many cards were banned in antiquities 😆 In old school we still see all these cards being played and its not always pretty.
Oh, It's always pretty!
Every copy of Necropotence that I had was given to me for free, by players who couldn't see any use for it. :o
I used to trade for Channels, just to get them out of circulation.
Unbannings are just as interesting as bannings. I think it's easy to forget the problems that some cards caused if you didn't play the game in that period.
What always bothered me was the bans that took place because Wizards was worried about stuff interacting with the restricted list. Just do away with the restricted list. If 2 of a card is too good, why should anyone build a deck with 1? Ban it. Or better yet, don't print it unless it's going in an unset.
The only thing worse was banning the wrong card to Nerf a combo. Then unbanning. Then banning the right one. Then restricting the unbanned one just in case.
I really expected New Phyrexia, just due to the existence of phyrexian mana. Is it really only mental misstep and gitaxian probe that got banned?
CNS has 13 conspiracies, all of them banned in Legacy. CN2 has 12 conspiracies all of them banned in Legacy as well. This would put them 2nd and third on list.
M20 has Field of the Dead, Kethis, Leyline of Abundance and Veil of Summer banned in Pioneer and Mystic forge restricted in Vintage
Indeed, Underworld Dreams was just reprinted in TBD
I guess the most bant set is alara or something I guess lol
I'm just revisiting this video to say that you will need to redo this video soon, Mr Nizzahon. Too many BrOko cards on Standard haha
Could you explain more about cards that are basically illegal to play, like conspiracy please
Anti is really stresdful and conspiracy is too restricted, but both are interesting mechanics
I'm pretty sure Eldraine and Ikoria would like to have a word with this list.
Summer Bloom in Visions shouldn't have counted, since Visions isn't a Modern set. Summer Bloom was banned because of the core set that allowed it to be Modern legal.
(did not see the video. Yet)
I gonna say Mirrodin. So many bans...
Small correct: you said Ice Age has 5 banned or restricted cards, but it said 4 on screen
Wunder which set from the 2015 2019 range would be the top 10 cause old card Are obvious less Balanced than new
If he included it, it would've been Kaladesh. Aetherworks Marvel, attune with aether, smugglers copter, and rogue refiner were all banned in standard. Additionally, Aether revolt also banned felidar guardian from standard and more recently, paradox engine in edh. Kaladesh block was a broken set and I'm honestly surprised that only 6 cards from the block in total have been banned to date. If they hadn't been so "careful" with card design, and i say careful loosely, it could've easily been Mirrodin 2.0
I assumed he wasn't going to include ABU in the list because it's so super obvious, so I put Mirrodin at number one. I'm still gonna take the W.
12 banned/restricted card from Mirrodin set
1-5 All artifact land
6 Chrome Mox
7 Cloudpost
8 Disiple of the Vault
9 Sheeting Song
10 Second Sunrise
11 Chalice of the Void
What is the 12th?
Skullclamp was from Darksteel.
Throne of Eldraine.
A lot of these cards aren't banned in Vintage, and see a lot of play there!
Speaking of, Top 10 Vintage Cards (minus power 9). It's not my best segue. But oh well.
Say hello to Eldraine :)
Just off the top of my head. Whatever urza block that had academy in. Kamigawa block, mirridon. Kaladesh new phyrexia and alpha. I don't know what else
I don't believe kamigawa had any cards banned from it except top. I can't think of any others
@@twoblueuntapped886 Late reply, decided to rewatch. Jitte in modern (here's hoping for a second rite ban in historic!)
I would put Mirrodin at #1. You could totally equate banning of Power9 cards as simply a power adjustment, but you would figure that with so many cards already printed by the time Mirrodin was released, they would actually playtest the heck out of a new mechanic like Affinity and realize it was completely broken. So going off pure count, sure Alpha is an obvious #1, but you could demote this to HM early since it's not that interesting as a result. I don't think it even qualifies as a "set", since when it was released, it was the entire game itself.
Time Vault was even too good for vintage cube, despite cards like Black Lotus and Ancestral Recall being in there
Seeing this video now makes me chuckle, when people are, days after release, calling for the banning of 10 cards from Ikoria, putting it right on the list immediately if Wizards does something about it.
Yeah the last few sets have done so well
Top 10 Self-Mill pleaseeee
Throne o Eldraine is on this list with 8 bans
Actually, one card of the power 9, timetwister, is legal in edh
Correct, but as he’s mentioned in his History of the Banned and Restricted List, he doesn’t discuss any formats, such as Commander and Pauper, for which there are no premier pro-tour events. Basically, only the 60 card non-rotating and rotating formats are discussed in these videos 🙂
There are a ton of errors in editing of this video.
Isn't Goblin Recruiter banned instead of restricted in Legacy?
Dominik Heidrich has to be, Legacy is Bannings only. Vintage has restrictions.
Yes
If this video was made one year later it’d look quite different
urzas block was the best time in magic
Darksteel needed to have more cards banned
edit-nvm you have to tap it
I am confused by candelabra of tawnos, isn't it extremely powerful? if you have a land that produces more than 1 mana, it's a 1 mana artifact that produces infinite mana. with a City of Traitors it's turn 1 infinite mana. with a bunch of other lands it's on turn 2. It seems kinda ridicolous to me considering the investment is so small.
Candelabra was a "Mono Artifact," meaning it carries an implied tap to use it. Magic was a bit weird back then...
Learnt recently myself that it's a 'Mono Artifact' which means it requires tapping to activate. Old school terminology.
@@DawnOfTheAges oh. well that makes it a lot worse, nevermind. didn't know that was a thing, thanks
@@andrewamann8855 didn't know that, thanks.
@@altromonte15 remember, cards like Mana Flare were a thing back then, too. Candelabra actually is/was stupidly powerful, especially when you could use it to play out from under a stasis or winter orb, your's or their's.
The flip side of this was that making obscene amounts of Mana used to carry a rather hefty downside, hitting your life total 1 for 1, for any unspent Mana leftover at the end of each phase, so making arbitrarily large amounts of Mana could wind up killing you, if you were reckless about it.
Tron lands should be legendary or they should bring sinkhole or strip mine to modern
Wyndfall!?!!? Excuse me? xD
I think based on how this is presented it is probably accurate to say Alpha and Mirrodin are both the most broken: Alpha being the most broken core set, and Mirrodin being the most broken expansion.
“Combo Winter” decks during the earliest days of the Urza’s Block tournaments were capable of winning by turn one or two. I don’t think the Affinity decks of the Mirrodin block were that fast even before the Artifact lands and several others got banned…?
Anytime Nizzahon says the word "banned", my attention is immediately pulled toward his channel.
Wine-dfall!
I'm confused, kaladesh only had two. Attune and Marvel. Rogue refiner and felidar guardian were Aether revolt
copter too
@@Mafujalate329 oh right tha's 3. Is there a 4th?
@@CSDragon Wasn't there a blue/red vedalken that got banned too?
@@noxouphe4370 Nope, that was never banned
@@CSDragon You are right
Urza Block is the best ever made!
Alpha isn't a set. It was the first printing of the Limited Edition set. Beta was the second printing of the Limited Edition set.
I think labeling it as "Limited Edition" is just as anachronistic. Unfortunately there is no good name to call them that people in 1993 would have used. It was just Magic.
I wish I had kept my black lotus.
I think this list needs an update *cough* Eldraine *cough*
It makes sense the 1st set was the most busted though, they didn't quite know what the product was.
Yup. Think I said that
So many mystakes
Amazing vid as always but ARGH: Wind (as in 'whoosh') not wind (as in 'wind the clockwork butler, dear') fall please!
Came to the comments just to thumbs up whoever said it
Yeah that's a card where I said it wrong as a 10 year old and have never gotten over it completely
Alpha has to be number 1 right?
I wanted to see the full list of Alpha banned cards, so I looked it up on scryfall. My search yielded 35 cards. Which cards mark the difference and why? scryfall.com/search?q=is%3Aspikey+set%3Aalpha&unique=cards&as=grid&order=name
Don't you find interesting that there was only 1 set from the "Modern era"? And it was Mirrodin, in 2nd place...
Kaladesh was joint 10th tbf
@@joelowdon1615 You're right... another artifacts uh i mean inventions based set. But yeah it is fair :P
If we do then Magic has gone straight down the crapper.
_Wined Fall_ ...?
I don’t remember many people wanting to quit the game in Urzas block but most everyone I knew threatened or eventually did quit during Mirrodin block. They all came back for the OG Ravnica.
Error on Number 8. Says 4 cards but you say 5.
You say there were 5 cards banned from Ice Age, yet it says 4. Hmm
Wizards just unbanned Fastbond lol.
And then Eldraine happened. Wizards do not teach themselves on their mistakes.
Workshops is not restricted.
This list... aged
winedfall eh