Honda CRF300L and Tenere 700 Review and Comparison - Which motorcycle is the best dual-sport for you
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- Honda CRF300L and Tenere 700 Review and Comparison - Which motorcycle is the best dual-sport for you?
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Yamaha Tenere 700:
The Yamaha Ténéré 700 is a midsize adventure/dual-sport motorcycle manufactured by Yamaha since 2019. It features a 689 cc (42.0 cu in) parallel-twin engine which powers the motorcycle through a six-speed gearbox and chain drive. Brakes are equipped with rider-switchable (on-off) ABS. The "baby Ténéré" is the latest in a series of dual-sport Yamaha motorcycles named after the Ténéré desert stage of the Dakar Rally in the Sahara. The successor to Yamaha's XT660Z Ténéré was first announced as the T7 concept at the 2016 EICMA with an anticipated production launch in 2018. A refined concept was publicized a year later.
Yamaha announced that delivery of bikes would begin in Europe in July 2019, and only the following year to the USA due to emissions and other regulatory delays. The liquid-cooled 4-stroke 8-valve DOHC engine with crossplane crankshaft was already in use and well reviewed in Yamaha's MT-07 naked and Tracer 700 sport touring bikes.
Honda CRF300L:
Balance is the key when riding any motorcycle. And we’re not talking about just balancing on two wheels: We’re talking about the balance between size, weight, power and handling that makes some bikes great-like the new Honda CRF300L. Based on our previous CRF250L, for 2021, it gets a larger engine with more torque and a whole host of chassis and suspension refinements. What you end up with is one of the best-balanced bikes ever for on- and off-road use. Perfect for weekend trail rides, it’s also among the best choices ever for commuting or urban transportation. And if you’re looking for a version with a windscreen and Dakar-inspired bodywork for a little more weather protection, make sure you check out our new CRF300L Rally.
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I've seen allot of dudes who've never ridden dirt bikes, trail bikes, or duel sports think their gonna buy a T7 and go do singletrack. If you wanna get hurt then go right ahead, but the T7 for any average rider is a TERRIBLE bike for off roading.
Colton I agree, It is a tough bull to handle. People see other riders like pole tarres throw it around like a trials bike and think its not that hard. Having one I can tell you that it takes some time, and is a hard bike on single track. I dont know if you watched it all but I really tried to drive that point home when I said its not a beginner bike.
@@MotorcyclesOffroad Yeah man, I'm more referring to dudes who've ridden street bikes for years, thinking the T7 is gonna be their first "Off Road" bike. There's another you-tuber (who I won't mention, not looking to throw shade) who bought a T7 and mentions it being his first off road bike, and doing singletrack on it, only to be in for a rude awakening. He later added a 300L to his fleet to. Right tool right job, unless your a damn animal and it doesn't matter which isn't most of us.
Couldn’t agree more. Same as people trying to ride challenging dirt on 1200s I remember the days when a 600 was considered a set of keys for an orthopedic doctor’s Mercedes. It’s just a pig. Long days in the dirt are so much more FUN on a dirty day.
I'm getting myself a T7 at some stage. It will be used 80-90% on road with some light TET adventures. I had a Maico 490 back in the 80s......but I'm not so stupid to think I'm as strong or as fit as I was then. Know you abilities folks.
It's also as I've noticed requires a lot of respect, in young and dum 20 year old and let's face it decision isn't the best for a guy my age😂, I know the 300 which I do own is perfect because even when I do get frisky with he throttle it's more forgiving
I owned the T7 and it’s tall and top heavy , I’m in my fifties and have a bad knee and hip , getting old is shit.
But it’s a heavy bike and for my skill set it was too much so now I’m riding a 300 l.
I’m 210 pounds so I’ve fitted YSS rear shock and upgraded the fork spring , really improved the handling on and off road .
Absolutely love the little Honda , far more fun than the bigger bikes ,best move Ive made .
Love the channel .
All the best from the UK 🇬🇧🏍
I run the 300l rally and I absolutely love the bike, also great job on the content 👍
This is the comparison review I didn't know I needed! Now reconsidering the 300L as my unicorn for travel and offroad in SE Asia. The investment : Fun ratio looks ideal. (liked and subbed)
fuel injection is a drawback for me personally offroad
Just want to give you some honest feedback with appreciation for each and every video I've watched from you is truly awesome, high quality in production and especially content rich info based on experience, not philosophy, cheers
I watched it all! Thank you for your time, effort, and insight.
Thank you for taking the time to watch it all.
Love your content! Thanks for sharing and putting in the work.
Such a great video with superbly organized content….thanks for this!! I’m subscribed brother..
Really like your reviews. I just got a new 300L and after one ride I am ear to ear smiles. Granted I have not ridden many other bikes but I can see this bike being a long term friend
Truly informative as always and down to earth knowledge. Thanks Andrew keep it up man
Thank you for the kind words. I missed youtube to I started up a month or 2 before planned. I was only going to make videos on my riding season.
You make some of the best comparison videos! Thanks for knowledge bud.
Thank you so much, this was an awesome comment.
loving the in depth reviews!
Thank you, I am testing the wr250r vs the 300L this weekend. I did have a wr250 in the past but to do a complete review I want to do them some by side.
Thanks for making this review. Watched it to the end!
Thank you for taking the time to watch!
I was veeeerryy close to grabbing a 2024 T7 but after realizing I ride 80% off road went with a 2023 CRF300 Rally. Got it for $5,000 and throwing about $4,000 in upgrades on it and it’s freaking incredible
Man I’m torn right now. I moved to WA and got the 300L because of all the supposed tracks. But they’re all so damn far that riding on the road for 3-6 hours to get to them one way sucks.
Almost thinking of getting the Tenere instead and just give up most off road except forest roads. At least I could get to them.
@@Thatbeardedguy86I got rid of the Rally pretty quickly, I ride a KTM 500 EXC-F now. I’m not a fan of riding pavement so I literally just haul the bike to areas with trails then ride out from there. I also base camp ride so I’ll set up my camping stuff at a campground then ride the trails within the area that I’m camping in
@@armored-clownsee even the KTM 500 was something I was considering instead. If I’m going to just use a bike for dirt, get a dirt bike.
Very happy with my 300L for all the reasons you pointed out in this video. Nice analysis.
Thanks mike, I feel it is a really solid bike. Especially for its cost and service intervals.
I watched it all the way through, Andrew. Great content!! Now I want both.
Thanks, and both are great bikes.
Yo keep up the good work brother I got a drz 650 and love ur vids man. I'll send my riding buddies links to ur vids keep up the good work man
Great vid. Been waiting for the 300L to come in stock. Local dirt and commuting for me. Gas is crazy $5+ here in Cali. Gotta hang up my truck for weekends only. Great content, I really enjoyed it.
I was thinking the same thing, as gas creeps up Im going to be on the bike much more. Even on rainy days.
Enjoyed the video! Watched it to the end
Thank you, glad you liked it.
Great video, thanks for sharing. Cheers
Very very nice video !!!! Superb organisation of the info ! Loved the Ten but I adore the little red
I feel they are both awesome bikes but it all depends what you are looking for.
Great review Andrew.
Great review
Great videos love watching them!!
Awesome, I am glad I can offer you some entertainment!
Nice comparison ! Love the tenere . As a rally owner your estimate is pretty good I would say on average 400 km range but I have pushed it as far as 550 km when taking it extra easy !
Great video/comparison. You have a new subscriber. Watched to end. I’m a fan of both bikes.
Thank you, and thanks for watching to the end!
Andrew,
Thoroughly enjoyed this comparo, (yup …easily captured my attention to the end).
The factors used to differentiate bikes, personal insights only an owner can offer, combined with high quality videography and screen caption editing really made this “Must see TV” 👍
Been decades since riding off-road, but am seriously considering my first adult dual sport purchase.
30” inseam & AARP qualified age, suggest a shaved seat + K-link would be wise (at least initially) to develop bike handling skills.
New subscriber, your excellent work deserves greater recognition!
Thank you so much, so what bike are you thinking of starting with?
Oops, I shoulda specified the CRF 300L. Sure, the Yamaha XT 250 is more inseam friendly …but I would only consider it as a ‘transition bike’.
I learned how to handle my first adventure bike (Suzuki Vstrom 1000) pretty quickly, without modifying seat or suspension.
@@vtwinfant50 ohh well you will be fine with the 300L I'm sure.
Happy to subscribe, I'm another fortunate one that own both models😊😊
Subbed! Thank you for your thoughts. I'm stepping down from GSA and GS, going more gravel and less asphalt and longer distances
Great comparison video. I had a 250L and did everything to it including a sidecar and a turbo, but it just wasn't big enough for long adventures. I got rid of that and my old goldwing and I'm looking at getting a tenere. This is exactly the kind of comparison I needed
Subscribed recently, and really enjoy your channel. I had a 250L as my re-intro to Moto’s after a serious accident. Loved that bike, and have thought about picking the 300 up to along with my FJ-09…. Along with a set of sumo wheels/tires! Thanks for the great content.
Thank you, thank you for watching and taking the time to leave an awesome comment.
That was a great video thank you 😊 got me a honda 300L down here in new Zealand great little bike 🏍 have a suzuki v Strom 1050xt for the road work and it's a great bike as well
Cheers
Great editing
Nice work mate. I have the Rally on order (been waiting many months) and am running an MT-07 Tracer setup for gravel roads. Due to Australia licencing I can't pull the trigger on the T700 yet so have the (almost - ground clearance, alloy 17s and short suspension travel are left wanting on the Tracer) next best thing.
Very nice vid. I considered the T7 and went with the 300Rally and loving it!. If I have to take a cross country ride I take my GoldWing. But now I find myself riding the 300 Rally over my GW or my VRod Muscle, and always searching for another off-road trail.
Thanks man, and yeah I can see that. These little bikes are fun.
Excellent comparison. Excellent descriptions. Watched to the end. Planning to get a 300. I’ve been comparing to the CB500X but have decided against it. I’m wanting more off road. I have a Indian Challenger for my long distance road trips.
Well I think you already have your answer, you already have a good rode bike so the 300L or 300rally should be what you spring for. As for just offroad the 300L is better and you can drop it 1000 times without worrying about cracking the ferrings the rally has. But the rally has better lights and a huge fuel tank getting you a 260mile + range. So all depends what you want to do with the bike. I really dont think the CB500X is a good bike overall, I think it is caught in the middle of a catch all bike and is not really good offraod, but you already have a road bike. Anyway I hope that helps.
Nice video, I put my name on a list to get the 300 rally it never came in ended up with the G310GS nice little bike. but I did add some rally raid parts to help it out for the off road rides, I’m still a Honda fanboy and time will tell if the baby GS will hold up for the off road I have planned for it this summer. I also wave to everyone and made it to the end
Great video and really helpful. Thank you 🙏
Thank you, I am glad you enjoyed the video .
So happy I came across this video! I always though of Tenere 700 as my next bike but thought of it a bit out of my budget. I recently started considering CRF 300L Rally and this video certainly gave me some confidence that I won't be making a huge mistake, especially as I want to do parts of TET. Well, if I am making a mistake, I will always be able to move up to the Tenere later 😆 Thanks for a great video!
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thanks but have already seen most of them, will check out the 2 I am not sure if I have seen,
@@hiltonmcconnell2563 ok well I guess I will keep making more then. Those are just my popular ones.
@@MotorcyclesOffroad keep them coming love watching them, do think you can make better choices in some things. but to each his or her own.
@@hiltonmcconnell2563 ohh yeah? Explain what you mean?
thanx! Good, thorough analysis.
Thank you, I ton of people asked for this video, and I feel like why not I have both bikes lol.
Great video!
👍
Always watching to the end boss. I appreciate the effort you put into your videos and knowledge. I am very excited this year as my 22' Tenere should be here mid march!! I cant wait to do some moto camping.
That is going to be so fun, where are you located? I know some good places on the east coast.
@@MotorcyclesOffroad West coast here. Central Washington in the beautiful Pacific Northwest!! But who knows. Maybe I'll make it to your side on the tenere if I'm feeling crazy lol.
Awesome, you have so many nice places to camp and ride out there.
Great comparison! Thanks
Well thank you for watching and taking the time to comment.
Thank you very much.
Thanks for the great info.
Thanks for sharing your thoughts.
It really reached me
Thank you, and thank you for the support. Im glad it was an enjoyable video for you.
Great content Andrew. These are exactly the two bikes I've been considering.
Awesome! which one are you leaning towards?
@@MotorcyclesOffroad The 300L because my background is motocross and off road. Plus, I'm new to street riding.
I have no intention of selling my Africa Twin because like you Andrew it serves me as does your T7 serve you. I will enjoy far more for all the reasons you discuss my CRF Rally when it arrives to ride braided rivers rocky fire breaks and especially single tracks. Your experienced clarity on the subject will be a huge help to many ...... Your presentation, dialogue and editing is smooth as butter and makes for great watching. Thanks.
Wow thanks so much. Reading this comment really made my day. Im glad you enjoyed it took a ton of work to put this together.
I recently found your channel. I’ve watched a bunch of your videos and now I’m subscribed. I’m in the market for a dual sport bike to ride around the mountain roads of northern Utah and to take on some moderate mountain and desert trails. I’ve been looking at used bikes, but people are asking $3k for 15 to 20 year old bikes that are not in flawless condition. I think you’ve convinced me to go ahead and buy a new CRF300L. It will be all mine and last for decades. Thanks! 👍
Awesome! I hope you find one. Another great used bike is the DR350s, I loved mine and they last forever.
Man, awesome video!!!
I still can't really decide 100%..... I wish I could have them both. This is the way!
Haha well thanks, yes they are both fun in their own way. It really comes down to what you need or what to do.
Hey man, great video! I just would like to know a few things. What are the redlines on both of these bikes? How are they geared, to tall? To short? And which bike has the better transmissions, in terms of smooth shifts, false neutrals and such. Thanks man, love the video, please keep it up!
Man this is a fantastic review! Also a weirdly useful comparison; my brother rides a Versys X-300 and I want something to take offroad with him. I like the CRF300L for that aspect, but I'm %80 street rider so spending $5k+ on a bike I realistically will ride five times a year seems dumb, so the Tenere is a pretty attractive option.
I wanna wait 'til the new TransAlp comes out though, if it competes with the T7 it'll hopefully bring the used market down LOL
Watched 'til the end btw, great video for real was engaged the whole time.
Ride safe!
Great video man!
Thank you, and I am glad you enjoyed it.
Exactly the review I was looking for. Excellent! I'm going to buy both of them ;-)
Haha thats what I did. I mean I know not everyone can do something like that, I actually have a side job that funds my toy habit.
Thank you excellent video. And yes I watched it to the end
Thank you, and thank you for the support by watching it all + taking the time to comment.
very informative, thank you.
You are welcome, and thank you for the comment.
Good review. Thanks.
Thank you, what bike were you more leaning to get?
You are exactly correct on your review, I own a big bore 2013 wr290r with all the freckles, 90/10 tires, the best bike I ever owned period with 30000mi and a basically stock T7 with 50/50 tires, I am a very good dirt rider in south Jersey, did a number of enduros, harescrambles, at first a did not like the T7 at all, then I got back in racing shape rode the t7 alot this winter on single track and it makes you a much better dirt rider, you have to use all your dirt bike skills to ride it off road, just got back last weekend and rode the wr290r on singletrack and I was just turning and burning, felt like it was a lirtle pit bike, actually I think the best unicorn adventure dual sport motorcycle for under 400mi adventure is these small japanese 300cc bikes, if you stay off the interstates, a small rally windscreen, seat concept seat, 3gal tank, the only reason I bought the T7, I sold my street cruiser and take my T7 on 2000mi week trips
Watched to the end. ❤
Thanks you!
Nice comparison! Although i totally love the T7 design, i must say nimble and agile sometimes is a win. Especially in my country where there are a lot of mountainous areas. We drive smaller cc bikes here, and we have a lot of XR150L, CRF250L, WR155R, XTZ125, KLX250, etc. not just for dual-sport but for daily commuting as well. You don't need to go fast, you just need to glide through the terrains with ease.
Very well presented and informative review. I have aCRF300L and a F800GSA, could ride thenGS all day, do some light off reading but there are places I can take the CRF that I would not dare take the GS. Really like the T700, must test ride one soon.
Great video! informative, clear and from my point of view, very accurate.
Thank you, thanks for the comment. Also thanks for being a subscriber.
Just thank you all around lmao
@@MotorcyclesOffroad My brother has a Tenere 700, I have a CRF Clone, a SSR-300, commercialized here in Bolivia in it's original brand, Bosuer. I'm 5.7" and unable to touch the floor with my two feet in the Tenere.
Can’t find any T7’s at the dealers up here in the PNW but I plan to buy one. I’m hearin 6 months to a year wait. Excellent breakdown and analysis all the way through to the end!
Thank you, I am.glad you liked the video.
Great review. I have a T7, but I really like the CRF300.
Great comparison 👍
Thanks Again.
watched to the end! cant understand why a viewer would start and not finish. Good vid
Thank you! the thing is, so many people do not finish videos. If you saw the analytics. It seems people only ever stay 6 mins or so, and that is on many channels.
Agree about not even thinking to do side by side comparison of these different class bikes. But these 2 bikes in my garage together would likely end my search for the perfect ride. You’re a smart man!
Thank you! Thanks for the kind words.
I am getting a little criticism over on FB for this video but a bunch of my subs asked for it and the view count really shows it is something people are interested in.
As you were asking, yes I was here to the end👍
Steven you are the man! thank you so much.
Great comparison 🤠👍
Thank you. I'm glad you liked the video. I have done a ton of comparisons on the channel. And unlike many other CZcamsrs I actually ride the bikes.
I enjoyed the video. I own both(Rally Version) and think they complement each other well. I also agree with your analysis. 😀
Nice, I am looking to pick up a rally just to make some more content with. How do you like it so far?
@@MotorcyclesOffroad This my experience with the Rally. The stock suspension was terrible and the power was adequate. I weight around 220 without gear and stock suspension was way too under sprung for me but I could still live with it. I upgraded the suspension, went with the YSS front spring and YSS fully adjustable rear, 550 performance ECU, Arrow exhaust and DNA filter it completely transformed the bike . Its now a different machine, the suspension now feels better than the T7. I can now cruise at 75mph while even going up grades, before I could barely keep it at 70 and that was with a tail wind LOL. After the mods I absolutely love the bike. I'm averaging around 70/75 mpg if I ride conservatively and get around 65 if I'm pushing it. I highly recommend doing at least the suspension upgrade if you are a heavier rider. The Rally rides so well now that I'm planning on doing a suspension upgrade to the T7. People might look down upon upgrading a motorcycle but I think upgrades are necessary to suit your riding style. It really improves riding experience. The Rally is a great bike for the money.
Good video! I own a T7 and a Husaberg 550, and I really think they are diferente worlds. Would ask for more power in the honda as I think i would miss the big fun of high power and low weight (125kg) of my husa. Keep doing my friend!
Thanks for the comment, and watching the video. I am glad you enjoyed.
Very well done. I have yet ridden either bike so I cant judge. Thats cool that your daughter rides with you. Stay safe
Thank you, and thanks for subbing. My daughter loves riding, I hope she is still my riding buddy as she gets older. I did a whole video riding with her on the channel and if you saw my Yoshimura exhaust sound comparison video she is the one riding my 300L lmao.
Really love your video! Just bought a T7 ☺️
Awesome! Such a great bike, ATM these are my two favorite bikes to own. What do you plan to do with it? Motocamp, Offroad, Commute, I am curious?
@@MotorcyclesOffroad Thanks for your reply! I think it will be 50/50 road/offroad. Traded in my KTM 790 adventure and I really hope this bike has better quality haha.
@@drkatt191 ohh yeah then I think you will be really happy with the Tenere. I swapped out the tires to Brigstone Battlax and the bike is great.
@@MotorcyclesOffroad Thanks! Really excited haha. Picking it up next week 😍
Thanks - an accurate video. I think what gets a lot of people is not knowing exactly what they want to do on their bike, even with these sorts of comparisons. I had street bikes and the T7 appealed to me for all the positives that you mention - price, simplicity, capability and reliability, plus the ability to get off pavement. But, as you and others have pointed out, I found out it's not great for technical riding, especially without the skills. Picking it up gets old quick. So I bought a 300L to learn the technical aspects of trail riding and it has helped me improve how I ride the T7.
The two bikes are similar yet very different and they complement each other well. If i had to pick between the 2 it would be very difficult, they are both awesome and fun bikes.
I grin ear to ear every time I ride either one. Just depends on what I want to do that day. Longer distances - pavement and forest service roads, or having to ride to a trail head and exploring some singletrack or whatever comes along. My advice is to get both :)
Well said Dan, I agree with everything you listed here. I myself also really enjoy having them both but I know not everyone can do that. I think maybe thats why so many people asked for a video like this.
Spot on!!!👍👍👍👍
Great video and very informative. Neither one is the fantasy Unicorn adventure bike, but together they are the perfect adventure bike combination.
if I had to sell one of mine it would be the T7 as my CRF 300.rally Can still do everything but just slower plus with the Yoshi exhaust on, It makes me feel like a teenage hooligan again lol
watched to the end and added a sub.
Thanks man!
I loved the vid. I also have the t7, but instead of the 300l I would compare it to my drz 400s. I actually laughed out loud when u mentioned the lc4 640....I own one and I honestly fall in love with it every time I ride it less than 20 miles. Lol
You have an awesome selection of good bikes! And the LC4 was awesome, I had to get rid of it to make room/money for other bikes.
I am so on the fence between the two bikes and have been for almost a year now. I would eventually like to own both as I feel they are each in their own right a purpose built machine. However, they are characteristically close enough to cross over into the others realm relatively well. As I already own a strictly road oriented bike I am leaning towards the CRF300L first then go from there. Goals.
Thank you for taking the time to compare and contrast these bikes. It was well articulated and vastly beneficial. Safe travels my friend! ✌️
that's like being on the fence between buying an f250 or a ranger. both go on the road.. both go on dirt. One is built for pulling 10,000 lb trailer the other for hauling a Christmas tree. If you never really ride hard singletrack , hop across logs, jump. hillclimb, rock garden, etc... then the 700. If you do like to do that stuff then the 300.
I would say get the 300L first and see how you like it. Its a completely different feel going offraod. I wouldn't want anyone to have their first big chuck of offroad riding on the T7.
Unless you have done a lot of off road I would stay away from the T7 very tall and top heavy, I can flat foot a CRF300L but only tip toe the T7 not a good first time off road bike. I have many years of road and off road and would not get the T7 for off road. much better bikes out there, weight wise.
@@hiltonmcconnell2563 Agree with this. The T7 benefits an experienced dirt rider who is comfortable standing a lot off road. Can be ridden like a huge dirt bike at that point keeping some things in mind. It's a lot of momentum and weight to slow down though. Easy to start feeling a little comfortable and roll on the speed. Next thing you know you've tucked the front of your 450 lbs+ bike that lays super flat in some akward position.
i am a new follower of your channel.
Greetings from Sweden.
Hello! And thank you, I hope you enjoy the content.
Thank you for this video. I am coming from riding a crf250r and really want something that’s street legal but can handle the OHV trails I am so fond of. I am very curious about both of these bikes and this video was exactly what I was looking for.
I guess after finishing the video and some consideration it’s probably smarter for me to buy the 300L rally. I was really leaning towards the T7 initially for no other reason than power/weight and overall aesthetics. My current crf250r makes 42 hp and is almost 100lbs lighter than the 300L, so I wasn’t super keen on buying something heavier AND less powerful. I find my bike to be very satisfying on trails, extremely maneuverable and very fast without being too much of a handful. But after watching this video and reading all of these comments about people selling their T7 because it’s too heavy and not confidence inspiring for anybody not named Pol Tarres, I just feel like it’ll be too much bike for the single track trails I love to ride. I do want to do moto-camping, but really just so I can set up camp and hit the trails multiple days in a row. Ultimately I will just have to sacrifice my ego and settle for a “slower” bike in the name of maintenance intervals (probably my only complaint of the 250r is that it feels like I am constantly having to change the oil) and highway capability with a 6 speed (no speedometer but I imagine my 250r caps out at about 65mph). It is what it is.
I think a 300L rally is a great choice. Its a different style of riding it will definitely be fun and there are some ways to uncork it a bit.
I really really like the comp. I have the DR 650 and a small XR 125 thinking to upgrade it to a 300. Thank you
Thanks! For a future first time buyer, this video was very helpful.
Honda it is :)
watcehd till the end as well lol !
liked and subbed :)
Awesome and thank you
Thanks for the review! Do you have any comment about the suitabilty of the ABS on off road stuff with either of these bikes?
Well I dont know to be honest. ABS hasnt come into play a lot for me. I dont really slide or panic brake on the road and I always turn it off offroad.
Great video comparison Andrew! I currently own a Tenere 700, a DR650, a KLR650, and an FZ1. I keep throwing around the idea of replacing my KLR with the 300l. A couple more videos like this and I don't think I'll be able to fight the urge!
You have quite a garage there, all good bikes. I mean the 300L doesnt give you that rush when you rip the throttle but it will feel like a feather compared to those others.
Why not a KLX300? Sounds like you would be using the T7 more on road/adventure, the new 300 would be used more off-road and has way better suspension out of the box. Unless you plan on throwing money at the Honda. I have a T7 too btw (and a Hypermotard)
Made it to the end... Really good Review! Exactly the type of thing I was curious about between the two. Now if I could just afford them both! 🤪 🖖
Haha yeah, I am really lucky.
Great comparison mate
Yea I’m enjoying both bikes for the same reasons
T7 touring fast roads including good gravel and the 300 L for steep single track with mud
Cheers from Chiang Mai N Thailand
Hey thank you from Thailand! I know not everyone can do it but it is really nice having bikes for different tasks.
Thanks for the video Andrew
Hey no problem! thank you for watching.
Do you ride?
@@MotorcyclesOffroad i dont own either these bikes but yes I do ride.
I have 1999 Kawasaki 220 bayou, 2005 Kawasaki brute force 750 modded or upgraded and a Chinese pitbike SSR 170
@@damienpugh1777 nice! I also have a Bayou 220. Little fun shaft driven bike lol.
@@MotorcyclesOffroad those things take a licken and keep on ticken
Really useful clip of two excellent bikes, thanks. Do you know if there are 'light' luggage options for the CRF? And if so you have a preference?
I have been using Rhino walk, Check out my CRF300L Rally mods video:
czcams.com/video/Mk1ODVzT16o/video.html
Great content, I've been hoping that honda comes out with a african twin 750 or 850. I'm not holding my breath anymore, the T7 is calling my name. For my 55th birthday my plan is to do the TAT, 30 to 40 days solo. I believe that the T7 will be all I need.
That would be amazing, are you motorcycling or staying in hotels?
I like the way you do the review/comparison! Can we do something like that for V-Strom 650 and Tenere-700? Can they be compared, at all? I own V-Strom, but I am constantly thinking that I, probably, missed when I didn't buy Tenere...
Nice Andrew. 😎 The comparison and info I have been looking for. I am a 2018 CRF250L owner looking to swap out for either CRF300L Rally or T700. The price for the T7 in Oz is the issue for me when having a bike is about having fun CRF300L (shit happens). However I do love the long haul ability of the T7. 🤔
Hey Jimmy, where you are you may need a bike with a lot of range from gas stations I bet? I will say depending and what you are looking for I would maybe got for the rally over the 300L. The Tenere is a big jump from a 250L, but thats just my opinion.
@@MotorcyclesOffroad yeah range can be an issue at times. Just have tie on the old jerry can 😎
Great video, I’m going with the 300l Rally. Cheaper to buy, cheaper on gas, cheaper on insurance (here in Canada) and enough bike for my day to day needs. Thanks Andrew!
Yeah I get that, I just have one for each purpose.
How much of a difference was there for insurance?
@@reck0n3r idk I pay like 70$ a year for both.
@@MotorcyclesOffroad that's a good price. Wondering about the Canadian guy though.
And, for you specifically, 70/year? Not per month?
Cheers and thanks for the videos. If I ever get into it myself I'll be sure to give you a shoutout.
It’s funny, I almost didn’t watch to the end because i got busy but then i was like, this guy made a good, informative video, and CZcams makes watching to the end matter. And then 1 minute later we get the thanks. No, thank YOU
Hey man thank you!
Good video I love my T7 but I know my limitations on it off-road which sometimes it feels like the bike is telling me to go there every time. I have had all the drops and picking up drama and of course the bruises from taking it beyond my limits. So this is why the 300L interests me as a second bike. Bottom line is I’m getting old and it’s getting harder to pickup that T7. A lighter bike would be so welcoming. That way I could have the best of both worlds.
I own a 300 rally. My suggestion is stay with the T7. The crf is a lawnmower. It doesn't like going faster than sixty and feels very top heavy. Maybe a regular crf is better but I thought the rally would fit my riding better because of on road use.
It is funny you say that about picking it up, I went as far to add dealifts to my lifting regimen just for that reason haha. But to be honest the 300L is a bike that can teach you a lot.
Vernon I do not feel that with my 300L but I dont know about the rally. I may have one coming soon tho, so we will see.
How tall are you? I'm hoping to get into one of these bikes or similar soon. Might also wait it out until Yam releases a Tenere 300, since they recently dropped the WR250R from their dual sport lineup. It just makes sense they'd release a T3 at some point.
@@reck0n3r I am 5'10" tall. And yeah I will be getting one of those Yamahas. I did a whole video on it, tho I don't think it will be soon.
I watched it all the way to the end. I have a T7. I don’t have the Honda 300 but always respected it.
Yeah they are 2 different bikes for 2 different tasks.
Thanks for the comparison, unfortunately both bikes aren't available for a few months (at least in Northern California)
I agree with you these two bikes definitely are not comparable
I mean I never thought to compare them, but everything is comparable. They both have a ton of similarities, and for a lot of people it may be the idea to jump to an adventure bike or stick with a dual sport or for some I wanted to point out this is not the same in many ways and not for a beginner. Either way it seems from all the positive feedback I have got in the first couple hrs that this video will help some people to make a decision on what bike is best for them. I truly believe this video will get more views and view retention then I have number of subs (6000) in a matter for 2 weeks. So maybe I am helping some people out. With the way things are today people cant test drive bikes before they buy them so videos like this are more important.
Really great comparison review! I'm a big guy, 6'4" 250# who just put a deposit on the CRF300L Rally. No opportunity to ride one, I hope I'm not going to find it too small. Intend to hitch carry as a travel bike, Super Tenere is my daily moto. Not intending the Honda for freeway use. Whatcha think? Will I hate the little Honda when it someday arrives?
Truly interesting content and production quality delivered well.
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Hey Todd thanks. So I feel like the rally is a very unique bike offering a ton of range, long service intervals, and being a light adventure bike. You will need to crack the preload to the max. If you are not happy with the performance I can say the bike is pushed down on the stock mapping. My exhaust, Air filter, and ECU mapping was Dino'ed at 29hp and 21Tor.
@@MotorcyclesOffroad Thanks much!
Honda makes the most sense for me .. 2 very diff bikes - that do basically the same thing .. Great video
I have only seen 5m of vídeo, but as always, it's good enough for me to pause and write a comment😉👌🇵🇹!
Haha thanks, did you end up watching it all? Are you going to get one or have one?
@@MotorcyclesOffroad ,obviously i did!😂. I have a CRF300L and a GS800, although i'm very tempted to change it for a T7.