Zariel EASY Mode!! BETTER Loot than HARD Mode - Rewards & Mechanics Comparison - Neverwinter Preview
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- čas přidán 12. 09. 2024
- As promised by the developers a Zariel Trial easy mode is in the works. It just got released for public testing on the preview server! And guess what, It's got better loot than the god dam Hard Mode, which many of us have spent hours upon hours training to run. Well fortunately the Hard mode won't be entirely useless to run. In this video I go over; How this is much easier, What mechanics differ from Hard Mode, and what Loot you can hope to obtain!
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This is so great, looking forward to actually playing the trial now
Yep, should be awesome having more ppl to run it. It's also a great way to train people for the "Master" version.
This is something that i was suggesting for a long time now and im happy that it was implemented 😂👍 other mmos do a thing simmilar to this, where in a random queue youll get a dungeon or trial in the esiest mode, with less mechanics, and less enemy health, but dont get the best loot untill you queue for the highest difficulty on the dungeon/trial.
This should also be done for tomm and then if both are "easy" enough maybe add them to the RTQ, its basically a "trial" version of a trial 😅😅😅
Yup, definitely a very good way to teach the basic mechanics before jumping into the hard mode.
They used to do it up to spellplague, but they stopped for one reason or another. Glad to see it's back though.
I've been wanting to do Zariel's Challenge for a long time, but it is pretty much impossible to get into a group to do it. I have spent up to five hours at a time in the queue for it, and tried forming a PUG a couple times to no avail. I guess you need to be in an active guild with at least 10 people doing end game content in order to do this.
I hope this easy mode makes it easier for someone like me to get in a group to do this type of content. Zariel Easy Mode also seems like a great way to train for the hard mode, which should open the door to eventually get into a hard mode group.
yup, should be a good place to train
I ran expeditions daily with 5 toons. I have multiples of almost all the comp accessories except some offence/defence ones.
I don't do tomm or azriel. The reward isn't worth the headache. I will, however, hop in on some easy mode action lol.
I don't think this is associated with the various milestones in the Redeemed Citadel campaign. I think it's a case of "When it's ready... we run it".
It makes sense for the easier version to drop the sort of gear that most of those who are running the hard version are assumed to already have. And if, like Aragon, they don't yet have it it's a quick and easy way to farm for it.
The best thing about it is that it will teach the newer players how the mechanics work.
Hopefully it won't be like when there were originally two versions of Demogorgon... back then you needed to get the Goristro section right in E Demo, but people new to the Epic version just expected him to melt like in the basic version. Or GWFs charging Demogorgon on the final phase and then wondering where all the sanity wells had gone...
They need to make sure that the Zariel mechanics pack enough of a punch in the easy version for people to need to learn how to avoid/mitigate them. The worst thing will be if the easy version just gets dominated by end gamers who don't need to worry about them... because that will mean those who need to learn the mechanics just won't bother.
I also look forward to actually have an opportunity, to try out Zariel's Challenge, I am in an excellent guild but it has a small player base and it can be difficult to field a 10 person team. Hopefully a good balance is achieved with loot allowing the easy mode to have sufficiently good loot to draw players, while leaving a challenge to work towards with the difficult version.
Yup, hopefully it shall be so.
thank you :) great video!
Hi @Aragon, thx so much for all these video guides/info! 😍
I have a question if you can help, what is the HP required for Zariel easy mode, and if other stats to be capped same as mast version?
May you plz create a guide for Zariel easy mode or is it not worth to make one because the game will give cues before mechanics occurred?
Thx again!
The stats required for the easy mode is the same as ToMM. As for Hp required, you could probably tank it fairly easily on 800k+
I do plan on creating a guide, as there are things that are important to get right to win.
Aragon thx so much for your help! What about HP for DPSers, how much they need for easy mode?
Can't wait to play it with random pugs. If they die less than CoDG it's already a win.
I doubt it will be put in random queues anytime soon. Mod 20 maybe.
Jefferson Sales I look forward to running with you.
james reed you know, they say that I have ADD, but they just don’t und... oh, look! A chicken!
CoDG is easy once you've learnt the mechanics (and put the damned chickens away!).
The one most people have trouble with on RND queues is LoMM (mainly the first boss).
Don't bother trying to RND queue for ToMM I've had it for over 11 hours straight!!!
One day I might eventually run it but not with the bunch of losers in the guild I'm with a present (3 of the leaders haven't logged on for over 14 months!!!).:-(
I have to imagine that, as we get further into Avernus, there will be more rewards that will open up, and those rewards will drop from Hard Mode. Then again, maybe the idea is to drop buff items in Easy Mode so that, as you progress and complete it more often, you get closer and closer to being able to compete in hard mode.
Thanks for the update!
sound like a good idea, but it's very unlikely they'll make the hard mode have anything decent besides weapons. The developers specifically said, they don't want people to think they have to do the Hard version in order to progress their character.
@@Aragon- Makes sense. I guess Easy Mode not only providing Companion Gear but also sellable items is a good way to reward those who are at the early stages of end-game but don't have the monetary means to get to Hard-Mode status. Grinding it out not only teaches the mechanics but also allows you to use the gains to level your character toward it; keeping BiS items in Hard-Mode provides a reason to continue the grind and incentivices chasing that goal for however long it takes.
I hope they will do this with all future dungeons. Maybe we'll have better success overall, especially with RED/RTQ's
@@LeRadioman, yup, it's a decent system.
if only they didnt save all the loot for redeemed citadel event
Ty for vidéo
Very nice vid Aragon, this is for mod 20 or some Milestone? Thanks
Should be for some Milestone, long before M20
@@Aragon- nice, now I have to study that guide :)
Howdy, did you get any epic companion gear in those chests? Didn't notice any purples.
yup, you can get purple gear
just make hard mode loot better instead of nerfing the shit out of easy mode
I would agree, yes.
Agreed
did they made the rewards worse after all this time ? cause it seem to drop sht now
Still the same, and pretty bad loot
Im guessing the sword of zariel will drop a lot in ad now
yup :( the only thing that was worth anything in the hard version
I dont know if u mentioned in the video, but what are the stats needed for this easier version? Such as hp for tanks?
it's the same stats as tomm, and i'd recommend 800k Hp as a tank, but you could probably tank with lower.
@@Aragon- awesome ok ty always wabted to tank zariel with my alt tank char but stuck in 920k hp so should be fine for this 1
The companion gear is it higher item level compared to the undermountain gear or is it the same gear u get from undermountain mex3s
it's the same from Me's
That’s interesting thought they release new avernus based companion gear
can you get the psn trophy in easy mode? Edit: I think it does since you get the in game achievement for completing zariel's challenge
Psn trophy??
#1.Weapons come and go each mod, so there is no reason to get anything above the zone weapons each mod(This mod's version of that is the Legion weapon set from maps). It would be a different story, if we could pick and choose an weapon set from the game and be able to constantly upgrade it to the current highest item level. This would let us keep our favorite weapon sets, and even encourage players to collect all sets.
#2. It's important to have decent gear in easy modes, because casual players are the LARGEST portion of the playerbase. So from a business standpoint, it makes sense to keep them interested in the game by having this content be like this, and provide this kind of decent reward. Anyone who disagrees is just an elitist wallet-warrior, who belongs to the 1% of the playerbase. This being said, the spirit of D&D is meant for everyone to enjoy, not just a few who can afford the premium experience.
I agree, but would like a time invested = reward given, system.
What is the required stats for it? I read that its the same for tomm?
Yup, 30k enemy rating, same as ToMM
Since the weapons are not in the drop table, the other rewards should be slightly better in easy mode.
hmm, I don't really see why. In the easy mode, your hardly likely to have to spend, stones of health, scrolls or even consumables. But in the hard mode, you won't beat it if you don't. And then the loot at the end won't even pay off the cost you spent on these consumables to run it. This is what infuriates me and leads to a very unenthusiastic playerbase. Anyone who gets their weapons says "fk that trial, i'm not doing that again, no loot, waste of my time". and then they won't be helping anyone else complete it!
Aragon exactly, the players that will be running it are gonna be casual pugs, and smaller guilds. They don’t have TOMM gear, and are going to be playing catch-up anyway. If you are taking the weapons out of the drop table, there has to be something there for them, even if it is “easy” from an end gamer’s perspective.
Hi could you make a video for the barbarian's bluid please?
I guess I could, sure
Is there anywhere we can follow you? Twitter, instagram etc?
not really. I don't use much social media atm, mainly just discord.
So celestial weapons only in hard mode?
Well.. obviously
yup
Great video, but do you have to call it "EASY Mode".. why not call it "Normal Zariel Trial" and the other "Zariel Trial Challenge Mode" or "Hardmode Zariel Trial" or whatever it is that doesnt automatically sound like as if this new normal mode zariel is the "easy peasy garbage that even an ape could do" , which automatically devalues and degrades even the people who finish it, what the people would feel like who dont finish this because they dont know the mechanics or doent have the good gear yet (because lets face it 20k IL is a joke.. you can have that after 1 days of creating a character even on a brand new account".. i cant even imagine.. because you know "Its so EASYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY" .
I know you aint the only person calling it Zariel easy mode, basically everyone i trained with for the Zariel Master Trial is calling it that.. but you are one of a small handfull of people who make CZcams videos and reach a wide audience.. and obviously this is just my personal opinion, but i dont like it when you guys help paint this picture of this Normal Zariel Trial that will lead to people insulting others because "OMG YOU RETARD THIS IS EASY MODE".
I do see your point, and was worried to call it as such because, yes, as you pointed out, it can insult those more casual players. However the same can be said for those, myself included, that have spent, now months, training to beat Zariel's Challenge. Now to be renamed to "Zariel's Challenge Master". So in the future people will just think we spent ages trying to beat "Zariel's Challenge", now being the name for the easy mode. So if I don't call this version easier than the now "master version" then it is just insulting to those players who have input so much time studying and learning the mechanics to learn to beat it. On top of that, what would I title the video? New Zariel Normal Mode, or New Zariel Story Mode. Those titles just don't grab someones attention and immediately tell them the developers made an "easier mode" for Zariel. The casual players have not invested any time (well not a lot) into completing Zariel as it is right now, so calling the new version the easier mode doesn't insult any effort they have input.
I hope you understand my point of view. But I shall do my best to try not devalue anyone's accomplishments at beating this "normal" version, in the future.
@Hellena Rose thanks for the support :)
@Hellena Rose Thanks for proofing my point. And i know this will shatter your world, but its actually possible to have finished zariel hard mode and no act like a jerk to everyone else. And if you ask yourself how i know that.. well because i dont act like one.. its that simple ;). Anyway ill leave you to your cookies
@@Aragon- I do see your point to, and i dont claim that my opinion or point of view is the holy grail of truth, because it isnt. However cryptic made the mistake to relase this content in the wrong order. Also i dont think that calling the Zariel Normal/Story mode that.. will do any harm to those of us who finished Zariel Challenge already.. i know i dont mind.. i mean now its called master.. so i mastered the Zariel Trial.. fine with me... also i got the weapons.. people can run Story Mode for a decade and wont get those..
But when a newbie/casual player struggles with Zariel Story Mode.. and everyone around him/her calls it easy mode.. from a psychological point of view thats terrible... because nowdays with all the teasing and trolling the word EASY/EZ is often/exclusively used to taunt people in pvp games...they wont appreciate it that term in here.. because some will automatically think that they are being taunted.
Anyway, i appreciate your work and the effort you put into all of this, and i also appreciate that you take the time to reply. Have a good one o/
Zariel challenge is 26k on ps4
This is the easy mode, just launched on preview, won't be out on the live server for a while.
Dang that figures :(
first New trial for nonBIS players since Cradle aka baby killer. and Bis players complain that they get rewards yup that makes sense!
you mean complain that they don't get rewards. well, why would a BiS player waste their time doing something that doesn't give them rewards??
Hellena Rose, Ah that makes more sense. ty xD
the artifact set drops in the baby version also BTW :)
that's what I was saying.
Lol another epic fail