Frank Zappa - Lost Interview - Problems with Democracy(6-7)
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- čas přidán 23. 01. 2009
- Part 6 of 7
This segment features Frank dissecting democracy. He reveals that 1 man 1 vote can be manipulated by the control of information that each voter receives. The information is controlled by the education system and the media. The media is controlled by corporations. Frank shows prescience in describing what was the Obama campaign's masterful manipulation of the media
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I like Frank's approach to politics. He was open minded and seemed to be able to see more than one point of view, and he wasn't bragging or trying to impress with his thoughts either. And he wasn't a hater-fundementalist type either, he viewed things independantly where most people would filter everything through their ideology.
Modern day politics is like religion, and I hate that.
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Zappa was a genius! He spoke yesterday about a problem still abhorrent today. I wish he was still alive today... just for his insight!
I've been a Zappa fan since the late sixties and it never hurt me none. Love the guy. We could use his voice in these troubled times. His early death was a terrible loss, both to the music community and to the country at large.
He was onto something when talking about the problem with democracy being a disparity in education amongst the citizenry. However, I believe it is less about levels of education than it is the ability to resist indoctrination. Informed consent, the cornerstone of any democracy, can no longer be considered as informed. Instead, consent is manipulated, bought and paid for, manufactured by PR (propaganda) campaigns that prey upon people's emotions and gullibility. And the well-educated are not immune to this. Ideology, once it has taken root, is prior to rational thinking. It directs one's inquiries and "rationality" towards a predetermined outcome.
The first step towards having a healthy democracy (and this is a big one) is to get money out of the process, to make sure that the candidate that wins is not merely the candidate who could best afford to flood the zone with the most bullshit. It seems that the first thing one hears from the media about a given candidate is how much money they've been able to raise. There is seldom any reporting on a candidate's theory of government or policy preferences. Everything is about the latest pissing contest, or about money. If this doesn't stop, our republican form of government is doomed. There is a way to accomplish this, but the political campaign industry has a lot to money, and is very well ensconced. They will fight like hell to keep anyone from killing the golden goose.
By the way, I see that many of the comments here were posted many years ago. If yours is one of those, and you've since passed away, please shoot me a message. I could use some good advice.
Great interview. He's too logical for politicians to understand.
You don't give politicians enough credit. The politician fully understands the truth, and how we might create a just society, but they take it and serve the interests of the few and present it as the solutions to the problems they create out of greed.
Oh, they get it!!! Otherwise we wouldn't be seeing such a wave of 1940s Nazis crap all over the place.
Man, if only more people were this smart
It's not about being smart, but about not being ignorant or closed minded.
Zappa would have been canceled long ago by the cancel culture...
@@morrist8727 universities 2022 !.....
That's sort of his point ...
It's called READING Dumb-fu*king Goy !
From the time I was about 12 years old I've been a fan of Frank Zappa. It was from listening to the Mothers of Invention (We're Only In It For The Money, Hot Ratz, Lumpy Gravy, and all the rest) that Zappa awakened me to poetry, literature, philosophy, even theology. I admire and owe a lot to this man. I was behind him, too, in his heroic battle against censorship in music. Thank you whoever you are for uploading this marvelous interview. I enjoyed it very much!
God I would to hear what he would say about out times.
@@jamesroberts180 Yes, James Roberts. I often think the same regarding Christopher Hitchens who died several years ago of cancer. Though I was critical of his atheism I admired his insight in to political and religious current events. I wish he was still living to critique the politics of today.
There you go Mr. Zappa.You are thinking again. You know we don't do that in America.
He's saying a lot of stupid stuff for somebody who is allegedly thinking.
Mak Muk Could you translate that statement into English?
Stuey apStuey Get Educated Stuey. Maybe you'll understand better!
Get educated he says. Why are these trolls on every single video I try to watch they obviously don't like Frank Zappa they are just here to try and stir up the crazy.
"stupid stuff" there is an educated statement
What a deep thinking and articulate man. But then we knew that, didn't we chums?
"When you think you have the moral high ground you are in a dangerous place"
6 mins in i now know why this was never aired 😃
I remember finding my uncle's Frank Zappa when I was 15 years old and MASH was still a show. I was hooked.
Here was a man who was more than a writer of music he was a philosopher and like most philosophers he saw the future. Because of Frank Zappa I understood exactly what Reagan's government was doing
Watching Frank Play listening to his music in concert and hearing his incredible freeminded, insightful, philosophical, Smart, Opinionated, non conformist, independent, intelligent, just the descriptive words of a genious is just more and more mind blowing. im just starting to get into his music and seeing his interviews. incredible. I believe that firmly already of he was running a country the world would b at peace. starting with a whole different way of just a transformation of the world. and just the way who knows a designed anarchy .I'm just blown away. unbelievable mind well May his interviews movies and of cpurse his music live on. I'm sure it will.
he's right. universal education is essential to a functioning democracy.
It's scary to listen to this and think about today's soulless party music.
It's scary to listen to this and think about how alot of shit is in the world today.
you died way too soon...
Zappa and I think alike, my quote about artists, "a philospher and a poet will always be a politicians worse nightmare, for the understand the meaning of words and the mortality of our lives."
They help others to think for themselves
Always nice to see a public figure like Zappa ,who say's it like it is without concern for their own personal benefit. What he'd say Now.....I can only imagine. Ha....Imagine having a George Carlin , Frank Zappa as oval office inhabitants ...:)
I suspect that Zappa would do a pretty good job. While I'm a fan, I don't think that Carlin had the deep understanding of the system that Zappa demonstrated.
For Secretary of State I nominate Bill Hicks.
He is SO missed.
Lucky to see him in Brum 1988
still one of my few heroes
Frank refers to the republican party, but at this point he might as well be talking about both parties of today as there is virtually no difference and neither party represents any semblance of sanity anymore.
I don't get the emphasis on "Cohen." Is it an antisemetic thing? Anyway, Scott's right about the two party system.
they both represent the interests of the ruling class, that's about it
We really need a third party, the "Rational Party" that takes the best parts of both parties, i,e, shrink the big federal government and have fiscal responsibility incorporate social justice and tolerance for all races, gays, etc. from democrats, and impose term limits on members of congress. Once a politician gets to Washington all they are focused on is getting re-elected. It has created a ruling class. They will do and say whatever it takes to keep them in office. Term limits would help stop this way of thinking. Your state senator was not intended to remain in office as a full time job for 50+ years! It was designed as a part time position. We don't need 90 year old men making our laws and play one side against the other so we keep electing them! Trouble I see is your normal rational citizen has no interest to get caught up in a political circus with carnival freaks..
Scott Cohen I hear you, though there is one not inconsequential difference between the parties in that only one has joined forces with the reactionary religious right and kowtows to the Guns 'R Us crowd.
ya sound like a snowflake for sure
What kind of reasoning could possibly be behind making a plastic card with the text "I am a member of the republican party", except corruption? Frank is right on as usual.
I love the dramatic zoom in on his face at the end
We need you now Frank.
It's a candy coated dictatorship alright. Frank was so honest.
republicans mastered that
Brilliant Musician, so far ahead of his time, RIP Frank, you were the real deal, in our so-called Democracy a voice of reason and a scary view of the pay to play govt.
We don’t have a choice. The choices are pre-selected for us, and whichever we choose the economy always serves the 1% while almost entirely ignoring the rest.
@8:00 Influence peddling is where a dollar donated equals so many points toward your career as a politician. How then can you have confidence in the government anymore, and then you look at the media, and they just look the other way.
The most intelligent musician !
Frank Zappa... Best poker stare EVER!!!! LOL.
frank zapppa is pure love :)
He was ahead of his time❤
It doesn't take much imagination to think what Zappa's reaction to Trump's takeover of the Republican Party would have been. And a debate would have no doubt ended with his being attacked as evil or some such by Trump, a man to whom reason is a foreign concept.
If he was only around now. People would listen, he was so smart.
I miss him
The MAGATS would hate him and call him a communist, socialist or marxist
democracy: two wolves and a sheep deciding what's for dinner.
More views of this video please. I cant believe only 611 views!
Frank was the man who put it intelligently and clearly.
We still have John Trudell and people like him.
It's scary how prescient so many of the things Frank Zappa says are!
How about this goes to the TRENDING list, CZcams?
“Democracy has become a watch word for abominable violations of human rights”. So I would not emphasize on it so much if I were Frank !!!
What a genius!
That camera movement at the end may have been unintentional, but it sure as hell expresses how it feels to hear someone say these things...
I'm downloading this.
Frank.I love you,you will be remembered,you said it didn't matter how or if people remembered you...but you knew everyone would! i think you meant that,you won't be here so in that respect it doesn't matter,your right! But you knew the world would continue without you and all your efforts and things you loved to do for money,fun whatever your art,your talent your attitude,your intelligence is loved by so many and will be remembered and honored and appreciated etc. for all time.Thank you!
FRANK ...........what you say, Echo's in history!.............You are such a smart human..........I'm humbled listening to you
Zappa speaks frankly,.... 👍
Some of this describes the horrors of Trumplandia perfectly.
It describes every presidency. But I guess singling out Trump is an easy path to popularity these days
He makes a great point at 3:00 to ~3:50
The depth of Frank's intellect never ceases to amaze. Shame he never got to write any songs about Trump. Ah well, at least we've got 'The Lie is so Big".
The Meek Shall Inherit Nothing (Tinseltown Rebellion)
Zappa you were the man
Wish he would have lived longer and would have been president of the US. I am not an Us citizen.
"Candy coated dictatorship" : yes indeed Frankie, all over the world as i write this. All rendered possible by a huge majority of two figures IQs. The people need to educate themselves.
Man was very acute on most things.
my left ear enjoyed this interview
Awesome upload, cheers!!
Is "Message to the Future" one, the last part?
What a beautiful smart man.. Miss his music, miss his mind
we should regret so much his absence.
I'm going to use that one Frank thank you.. you're a genius candy-coated dictatorship.. he was right about everything.. period... Don't you eat that yellow snow..
3:30 best point i've ever heard
One of the most talented and smartest people to ever grace his presence on this planet
He does have a statue, somewhere in Lithuania. He has a street named after him in Berlin too i think.
The final zoom in and out is just an anachronistic meme that never had the chance to go viral at the time
I swear, sometimes I think Frank was a prophet. He was so ridiculously ahead of his time musically, politically, and the way he viewed life in general.
And it has only grown worse in the last 13 years. Miss ya, Frank!
I love the the zappa man
can i have a link for the last episode? i can not find it
This is so true
Brilliant point at 3:00
the noam chomsky of rock
The letter talking about the big movers and shakers dinners/lunches/gatherings remind me of The Bohemian Grove.
R.IP.Mr Frank Zappa
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I very much agree.
FZ is(was) so f_g brillant...
+Roger Faraud No wonder he was away from Drugs ..
+Roger Faraud U DON'T HAVE TO BE FZ TO THINK STRAIGHT, MAN.-
+Roger Clemons neverminding that he basically predicted how mob rule is ruining this country...
+Roger Clemons The United States is a Republic in which our method of choosing legislators is Democracy. It is both a Democracy and a Republic. One does not negate the other because they are terms used to define very different characteristics of a nation.
Stop it now.
He talked a lot of sense . nothing has changed in fact things have only escalated .
I mean IN the interview, not in youtube, That fem voice "we must change the tape" etc. D you know if this interview have been broadcasted any time ?
This is philosofically correct. Here we are today....
Were is video #7?
@breedsauce101 What flavor do you have?
You don't. The L party approached him about a campaign for POTUS and he rejected them, reporting that their platform made no sense, and giving examples.
We need people like Frank Zappa and George Carlin around to run circles around Trump for calling out all his constant B.S. wake up!
Ok, I see what you mean.
Actually, I've only just started listening to Frank Zappa. He's an interesting musician as well as a great thinker.
What would he say now in 2013?
@Pighood I prefer Grape while others are partial to Super Duper Cherry. Seriously though What makes you call him a "paranoid whack job"?
TRUTH
I miss Frank:(
CZcams doesn't support videos longer than 10 minutes for most channels. That's way the interview is broken up in parts.
No wonder this is a lost video Frank Zappa was a truth teller.
Where's the 7th part?
Frank often said that he did not follow either party. He actually says it in this interview like 3 times. So he agrees with you.
TEACH YOUR PEOPLE FRANK !!
THEY NEED IT SOSOSOSO VERY FUCKING BADLY!
Love Frank Zappa
Hail the prophet Zappa who foresaw the coming of the Boeberts & MTGs.
The Wives of Big Brother are conservative in nature whether they possess a Gore Bush or a Barbera Bush.
I heard this guy predicted cell phones.
Where the hell is Part 7?
Did Part 7 get taken down?
OMFG This guy is so right.
I miss ya man.
A SURLY SAINT
funny ... I'd forgotten getting invitations to those
give us $$$$ & get an invite to an "influence" dinner
could never imagine how or why I got on their mailing list
O Frank ... shining your light ... the world is so dark.
so please explain why we should vote again!
Presumably so you won't find yourself in a police state.
@2:39; """"" in a democracy everyone gets to say what's on their minds """"""
A Demon Cry ~
@9:04; """""" let's look at our two countrie, ... we both made the same mistakes... we spent our national fortune on weapons,...... """""