As I was listening to you, pastor Hibbs, I was just smiling with exictement all the time! The Lord Jesus is coming soon! Oh, yes He is!!! So we have to tell everybody! Amen.
I have been ready for several years and even more now than ever....everything is lining up....just waiting for God to call us all up to be with him....Lord I am SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO ready!!!! IN JESUS NAME I PRAY AMEN!!!!
Me too! But the Spirit always reminds me to ask for His direction and focus to endure until He comes.. this year I am homeschooling my 11 yr old son. Last year we kindof wet our feet with half public school and half home 'school'.. anyways, he was DRAGGING his feet on everything I was trying to do with him, the only subject he really enjoyed was Bible. Well, one day my husband asked him why he was so uninterested in school and he said, "Because Jesus is coming soon so what is the difference?" That gave me mixed feelings... but the Hubs came to me and told me about this and said, "You probably should talk to him about this." So I did, and it was EXACTLY what I needed to REALLY understand at that moment in my life, that we are to occupy until He comes and stay the course because our enlistment in His Army is not over and the Mission is not completed until we have finished the race set before us and have grabbed as MANY people for the Kingdom as we have opportunity to. But, yes, I look around at this world and the evil being called good and my heart wants to sink a bit but then I remember what He has promised me... SO much good!! We will battle on together each in our own parts of the world and on THAT Day we will meet at the threshold of HOME♡♡♡
@@Standing.W.Israel OMG....I've had my son enrolled into a charter school this past year and this year as well....he too told me what was the point in going to school if God will just come down and get us soon....I also had to talk to him about what we needed to do "in the mean time" not to just quit and stop what we were doing....life is continuing while God is making his plans....this is incredible I feel we are on the right path and we just continue on from there and try to gather as many followers as possible....
Does anyone have rapture brain like me? Just thinking about it all the time. I do. I keep thinking about that verse 1 Thessalonians 4:16 (KJV) For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first: This is one of my favorite verses. Imagine how loud it will be, how loud the shout and the trumpet will sound! I just cant wait. I cant wait to go home and be with my Lord and Savior forever.
that's funny cuz I was thinking the same thing. I mean, will these videos be deleted or made outlawed? or will they still be available to covert the few sane minds that are left behind?
@@hobbz4921 those that are on the fence who weren't sure about God but wanted to know more....these videos will definitely help them decide. Before the NWO takes them down anyone who downloaded them will be able to share them to those who need to hear and see what we've been saying all this time. Funny how during this time it's the new Christians or the saints that will be operating on the dark web to reach people.
Yeah, I imagine that there will be a lot of Bible burning at that time - analog and digital - but there will be the two witnesses as well as 144000 jewish virgins to share the gospel at that time though.
Thank you for a bold message and standing up for God’s word. Even though California is threatening retaliation against you for upholding God’s word you remain strong. God bless you!
Thank you Pastor Jack...I really love how excited you get when you preach! I get fired up too....we should be the happiest most excited people on earth!!! When someone asks us why we just need to say Jesus. It is the REAL DEAL!!! ❤️🇨🇦🙏🏼
Thank you pastor Hibbs. I feel so foreign from this world. I feel like an alien in this world we are in. I look forward to being with You Jesus! Please people, if you don't look forward to his coming....call on His name!!!
Ken Potter yessss! I’ve been called nasty names by post tribbers. I’ve been told I’m going to hell. All kinds of ugly things. Pre-tribbers don’t come across like that. But they think they have more time which is a complete lie from the pit of hell. And not one of them can answer on who will repopulate the millennium kingdom. We sure won’t with new bodies and if we are all raptured after the tribulation and the unsaved don’t make it in.......
Pre vs mid vs post, i pray everyone remains faithful in the event a post tribulation rapture happens. I pray that all pretribbers keep their faith strong if they start seeing the anti christ execute his full on persecution upon all believers. Either way may God bless everyone
IYearn4HisReturn agree completely! I left a church years ago for pushing OSAS and that you could do whatever as long as you were “saved” at one point. We all have free will to walk away. My husband is a prime example.
Those verses teach Prewrath, not Pretib. We are not appointed to wrath. We are appointed to tribulation. John 16:33, "These things I have spoken unto you, that in me ye might have peace. In the world ye shall have tribulation: but be of good cheer; I have overcome the world."
Chris Maguire I understand that many people believe in pretrib, but that doesn’t make it true or biblical. The argument about “the church” not being in Revelation past chapter 3 doesn’t even make sense because the references to the saints, the great multitude that no one can count, the souls under the altar, those who overcome the beast, etc. are all descriptions of people who make up “the church.” That would be like me saying since the wording “the church” is not also used in Revelation 19, that means the church is not at the supper of the Lamb or not retuning with Jesus at Armageddon because those events are also described without using the words “the church.” The truth is, the whole book of Revelation is for and about what happens to the “the church” during Daniel’s 70th week. Revelation 22:16, “I, Jesus, have sent my angel to give you this testimony for *THE CHURCHES* . I am the Root and the Offspring of David, and the bright Morning Star.”
Chris Maguire Yes, we are the bride, just like we are the saints. Bride = church, Saints = church....No difference. That is my point. There is one body, one spirit, one faith, one hope, one baptism, one Lord, one Father of all. Also, I agree with you that there is a lot of noise right now in regards to the rapture...And all that truly matters is Jesus. However, out of love and concern, I will caution you about saying that the 144,000 will be preaching the gospel during the tribulation. This is never directly stated in any Bible verse. Revelation 22:18 has a severe warning about adding to the book of Revelation. So please be cautious about promoting that idea. God bless!
Seems like most of the pushback I see is from other "believers" it's crazy! But it is EXCITING because it is one of the many things that Jesus said would happen towards the end...
How i wish you could come and speak in my Church for a few days. We don't know it but we are Christians drowning in our works and programs. Like the Church in Revelation. We have forgotten about our first love.
The world is being prepared for the return of Yeshua whether people want to believe it or not. Pray for salvation for those who are lost. Be the light and make sure you have plenty of oil for the time is very near, nearer than we may think. 🛐✝️💜
Pastor Jack this is such an amazing sermon thank you I'm so glad I found you while watching you on The Watchman praise our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ.
Thank you for ministering to us pastor Jack! Thank you for your faithfulness. God bless you for not tickling our ears, stating the truth in love on what Gods Word says on how we should live our lives.
Hew Haw!!!!. Thank you Jack Hibbs for another great sermon. When this world and what's in it gets to me. I all ways listen to sermons on the Rapture, because I will not have to endure this forever. May the Lord protect and bless you like Amir tells us.
Romans 5:9, 1st Thess. 1:10 & 5:9-11, tell me that we won't be here when God pours out His wrath and judgment on this earth, which is what the tribulation period will be - God pouring out His divine wrath and judgement on this wicked world. Furthermore, why isn't the church mentioned in Revelation, chapters 6 to 18? When the church finally is mentioned in Revelation 19, she's seen in heaven, adorned as a bride. How did the church get their? The rapture! So I'm absolutely conviced that the church will be caught up and out before hand.
Why should we believe we will be spared any sort of suffering when Jesus went through so much for us? I believe we will go through suffering and that it will be worth all of the pain and even unto death to prove our love for the father.
It's good to be excited about our future and I am, but we also need to be very concerned about the futures of the unbelievers. We were directed by Jesus in Matthew 28:19 to go to all the nations, preaching the Good News of salvation.
Hey Pastor Jack! You have the 24-CTU desk phone as your alarm? SO DO I! I heard it on the video and kept looking at my phone.... which was not ringing!! It kind of freaked me out. I've never heard of anyone else having it :-) PS - Love, Love, Love your videos/teachings.
Hi I dont know how far you reach but I live the UK & would love to find a church that preaches your kind of message. Real bible messages 👍🙏 If you do reach this far can you help me please? I live in the county of Devon in the sw thank you God bless you 🙏
Of COURSE it matters... your whole entire interpretation of reality is based on your worldview and your belief, or lack of, on the topic of the Rapture (AKA The BLESSED HOPE!!!!) is a HUGE part of that worldview. What you believe affects your views, your views affect your attitude, and finally, your attitude affects your lifestyle. If you like living in insecurity and fear, which are NOT Mark's of a true Believer and follower in Jesus Christ, then by all means buy into the LIE that there is no Rapture or that there is no pre-tribulation Rapture! But know this: you WILL be held accountable for what you did or didn't do with the TRUTH God has freely given and allowed to be translated into every language for readily accessible understanding. What you BELIEVE about God will determine how you handle the TRUTH of HIS Word... it is as cut and dry as that. Thank you Pastor Hibbs for remaining FAITHFUL to THE Truth, to our Savior, and to His flock!!!!!!
Why is the church not of one opinion about the rapture? People like sadhu say never something about it. He goes to church in Germany and prepares the believers for the tribulation. I'm sad about the division in the body. Thats not normal. Jesus told us to be of one mind.
Hans im Glück I sat under Jack for over 15 years and he is amazing. I was a pre trib guy for the 1st 13 years. I am now pre wrath. It is ok to have differing opinion. I still listen to Jack and sit under a new pastor here in Reno who is equally pre trib. We love God, and wait for his return.
With that definition can you not just say then there is no retrieving believers before the tribulation, but BECAUSE OF THE TRIBULATION... many will be raptured, caught up with the message during those times?
Problems with what Jack says. Let me say this is NOT an attack on Jack Hibbs. I believe most of his interpretations of God's word but not all. The only reason I bring any of this up is because I have the spiritual gift of prophesy and I believe everyone needs to test what others are putting out. So having said that i also say this "don't believe anything I say". Test the scriptures for yourself and pray for discernment. First. Isaiah 26:19 Context 16LORD, in trouble have they visited thee, they poured out a prayer when thy chastening was upon them. 17Like as a woman with child, that draweth near the time of her delivery, is in pain, and crieth out in her pangs; so have we been in thy sight, O LORD. 18We have been with child, we have been in pain, we have as it were brought forth wind; we have not wrought any deliverance in the earth; neither have the inhabitants of the world fallen. 19Thy dead men shall live, together with my dead body shall they arise. Awake and sing, ye that dwell in dust: for thy dew is as the dew of herbs, and the earth shall cast out the dead. 20Come, my people, enter thou into thy chambers, and shut thy doors about thee: hide thyself as it were for a little moment, until the indignation be overpast. 21For, behold, the LORD cometh out of his place to punish the inhabitants of the earth for their iniquity: the earth also shall disclose her blood, and shall no more cover her slain. Jack uses this for the calling up so we don't suffer the wrath. The problem is verse 20- 20 Come, my people, enter thou into thy chambers, and shut thy doors about thee: hide thyself as it were for a little moment, until the indignation be overpast. We are to go into our chambers until it past. My understanding of the interpretation is we are taken up to the sky where Jesus will meet us and take us to Mount Zion where we will be protected while Jesus brings his wrath on the rest of the earth. At min 11:53 Jack uses the same theory that most pre-tribulation rapture believers/preachers use and that is the church isn't mentioned again after Revelation 4:1 After this I looked, and, behold, a door was opened in heaven: and the first voice which I heard was as it were of a trumpet talking with me; which said, Come up hither, and I will shew thee things which must be hereafter. 2 And immediately I was in the spirit: and, behold, a throne was set in heaven, and one sat on the throne. John has an out of body experience so he can be shown the representations of the things to come. However there is no Biblical evidence that this is the example of the rapture. For centuries preachers all over the world have taught how important it is to know God's word and to learn it. Jesus even says that not one jot or tittle will pass until all is fulfilled so how is it that this theory is based on what is NOT WRITTEN in God's word. They are saying this is the rapture because what the Bibles DOESN'T"T say from Revelation 1 on. How can we base any part of Christianity on what the Bible DOESN'T say. In my opinion this is adding to the word of God and bordering heresy (an opinion, doctrine, or practice contrary to the truth or to generally accepted beliefs or standards). At 12:14 he says the bride is mentioned in Chapter 19 of revelation: And after these things I heard a great voice of much people in heaven, saying, Alleluia; Salvation, and glory, and honour, and power, unto the Lord our God: This can't be definitely defined as the Bride of Christ. There are several passages through the word of God that talks about Heavenly host, angels and others giving praise to God from the Heavens. New International Version After this I heard what sounded like the roar of a great multitude in heaven shouting: "Hallelujah! Salvation and glory and power belong to our God, New Living Translation After this, I heard what sounded like a vast crowd in heaven shouting, “Praise the LORD! Salvation and glory and power belong to our God. English Standard Version After this I heard what seemed to be the loud voice of a great multitude in heaven, crying out, “Hallelujah! Salvation and glory and power belong to our God, Berean Study Bible After this I heard a sound like the roar of a great multitude in heaven, shouting: “Hallelujah! Salvation and glory and power belong to our God! When the word of God means Bride it will say Bride. 12:44 Jack states the church will come down from Heaven back to earth. My question is why would Jesus go and prepare a place for us: John 14:2 Context 1Let not your heart be troubled: ye believe in God, believe also in me. 2In my Father's house are many mansions: if it were not so, I would have told you. I go to prepare a place for you. 3And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again, and receive you unto myself; that where I am, there ye may be also. 4And whither I go ye know, and the way ye know. 5Thomas saith unto him, Lord, we know not whither thou goest; and how can we know the way? Why would Jesus prepare a place in Heaven for us only to be used during the wrath just to bring us back to earth/ He didn't do that for Noah or for Lot or for the children of Israel when God brought the plagues. So why would he do that? 12:55 The Bride riding on a white horse? Book, chapter and verse on that one please! 15:05 Jack reads out of Revelation and everyone needs to understand that everything John saw while in the spirit is a REPRESENTATION of the things to come or in some cases have come. Some of the representations are explained and some are not. 17:10 Jack says Johnis representing the church? This can be implied but it is not a definite interpretation of what is going on with John. The reason for what he is seeing is to pass on the information to future believers. 18:00 Jack says this is the ultimate mercy Luke 21:34 Context 31So likewise ye, when ye see these things come to pass, know ye that the kingdom of God is nigh at hand. 32Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass away, till all be fulfilled. 33Heaven and earth shall pass away: but my words shall not pass away. 34And take heed to yourselves, lest at any time your hearts be overcharged with surfeiting, and drunkenness, and cares of this life, and so that day come upon you unawares. 35For as a snare shall it come on all them that dwell on the face of the whole earth. 36Watch ye therefore, and pray always, that ye may be accounted worthy to escape all these things that shall come to pass, and to stand before the Son of man. 37And in the day time he was teaching in the temple; and at night he went out, and abode in the mount that is called the mount of Olives This is NOT the ultimate mercy his dying on the cross so we could have eternal life with him is the ultimate mercy otherwise we would pay for our own sin by suffering the second death in Hell. Scoffer: verb (used without object) to speak derisively; mock; jeer (often followed by at): If you can't do any better, don't scoff. Their efforts toward a peaceful settlement are not to be scoffed at. verb (used with object) to mock at; deride. noun an expression of mockery, derision, doubt, or derisive scorn; jeer. an object of mockery or derision. So was Jack mocking a scoffer? Was that person a scoffer or just someone that has a different interpretation of what God's word says (like me!). 20:13 Jack talks about our citizenship. Lets look at the definition. noun the state of being vested with the rights, privileges, and duties of a citizen. the character of an individual viewed as a member of society; behavior in terms of the duties, obligations, and functions of a citizen: an award for good citizenship. It needs to be noted that we are NOT natural citizens of Heaven but grafted into the vine. John Chapter 15 3 Now ye are clean through the word which I have spoken unto you. 4 Abide in me, and I in you. As the branch cannot bear fruit of itself, except it abide in the vine; no more can ye, except ye abide in me. 5 I am the vine, ye [are] the branches: He that abideth in me, and I in him, the same bringeth forth much fruit: for without me ye can do nothing. 6 If a man abide not in me, he is cast forth as a branch, and is withered; and men gather them, and cast [them] into the fire, and they are burned. As we are grafted in we BECOME citizens of the Kingdom of God. Final: Overall it is a good teaching. Other than the doctrinal differences I have I still believe this can be used to help Christians to grow or at least search the word for their selves. Comments: If you make a comment please make it constructive and not insulting or abusive. If you haven't do so repent and believe on Jesus Christ as the one and only true son of God! Revelation 22:19 And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book. 20 He which testifieth these things saith, Surely I come quickly. Amen. Even so, come, Lord Jesus. 21 The grace of our Lord Jesus Christ be with you all. Amen.
Interesting interpretation of scripture you have there, which I disagree with, but respect. I've been in enough of these discussions to know how they are going to turn out however; wisdom is knowing when to expound, when to be brief. The latter suffices here. It might be somewhat lengthy, but this is short for me LOL There's a reason why we believe that Rev ch 19 is referring to the bride of Christ. "Fine linen, clean and white" is a jewish, historical item denoting a wedding gown. Note the difference between this "fine linen", and other believers (old testament saints, tribulation saints) who wear "white robes" in the book of Revelation. There is a reason for this difference. Various places in new testament scripture also refers to the grace-era church as a virgin betrothed to Christ. This further corroborates the imagery of the church as the bride of the Lamb. Look up Renald Showers and jewish feasts and customs. It'll shed a whole new light on the imagery found in the book of Revelation. "My understanding of the interpretation is we are taken up to the sky where Jesus will meet us and take us to Mount Zion where we will be protected while Jesus brings his wrath on the rest of the earth." There is no scriptural support for that. As for the lack of mention of the church between Rev ch 5-18, it is not heresy at all. It is *NOT* the sole reason we believe the church will not be here for the tribulation. It's one of the *corroborating* evidence, but not the main one, nor only one. We look at all the various scripture passages that speak on end-times events, and then we draw our conclusions. You mentioned Lot and Noah missing the judgments of God, saying God spared them the judgment but kept them on the earth. That's a reasonable point, however you forget one thing, I think. The tribulation is going to be so incredibly terrible, it will be unlike anything the other has ever seen. The idea that God would keep the church on the earth and simply shield them during the tribulation is only a hypothesis and has no firm scriptural support. It may be valid, but there is no other corroborating scripture to back it up. So why do we believe pre-trib? Because we believe when God says the church is not destined for His wrath, He means it. The wrath spoken of in 2nd Thess ch 2 has a context. It is not speaking of missing hell/lake of fire. The topic includes the "Day of Christ" and the antichrist....essentially, end-times events. And of course, 1st Thess ch 4 speaks of the rapture. Paul spoke of these things as words of comfort (verse 18). How is it comforting believing that the rapture happens AFTER the tribulation? And what point would there be to go up into the sky and come right back down a split second later? John ch 14 says we go up to meet Yeshua, so that where He is, there we may be also. Even if it's a short 7 years, it makes more sense than going up to Heaven, receive new glorified bodies, and then come back down in a nanosecond. At least with the pre-trib view, it matches other scriptures which say we are not destined for the wrath of God. It's also worth noting, verse 3 says: "And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again and receive you unto Myself, that where I am, there ye may be also." The greek behind "receive" has some interesting colour to it. It means to "pull up towards oneself". And lastly, Paul believed he himself could have been the very ones who go up in the rapture. See 1st Thessalonians ch 4. How many times does Paul say "we" in verses 14-17? "For if WE believe..." "WE who are alive and remain", etc. This is just a very brief covering of some of the reasons for the pre-trib rapture. And no, you do not fall into the category of a scoffer. Read that scripture again, and you'll see it's quite specific in what it refers to. It's not merely about disagreeing on doctrine, it's full on mocking. It also specifically refers to people who don't even believe Yeshua will be coming back, period ("where is the promise of His coming..."). You're one of the very few who remain respectful in your tone and demeanour. I have seen some extremely horrible words come out of the mouths of professing believers, when they argue over the timing of the rapture. They even end up accusing each other of not being saved, as if eschatology is a salvation issue. It isn't. I don't agree with you, but I respect you all the same, because we're all imperfect people. As much as we want to stick to the truth, we're going to have some biases. It's inevitable. As such even though I disagree with you, I know you're still trying to interpret God's word the best you can and try to be led by the Spirit as much as possible. That's the same for us pre-tribbers as well. Maturity is being able to disagree agreeably on certain matters. Some things, such as salvation doctrine, is non-debatable. If someone deviates from the very essence of the gospel, they have "another gospel", a false gospel that will lead people to hell. Those things we stand 100% firm in, but things like eschatology we can be more flexible on. And just a side note, the gift you claim to have is the gift of discernment, not the gift of prophesying. I don't think I need to give you a vocabulary lesson on the word "discernment", but I do believe you may have an incorrect belief on what it means to prophesy, in the context of spiritual gifts (Romans ch 12, 1st Cor ch 12-14). The greek behind the word "prophesy" is "propheteia". It means simply to preach. The gift of prophesying is the ability to speak God's word boldly and unabashedly. This is why Paul says in 1st Cor ch 14, he would prefer that congregation members prophesy rather than speak in tongues. He's not saying he wants people walking around the room foretelling the future. What he means is it would be better for people to hear the word of God being preached in the common tongue, and everyone able to understand, than for someone to speak in tongues with the possibility there is no interpretation, and no one in the room knows what the speaker is saying at all. The same passage goes on to say, if there is no interpreter, the person speaking in tongues should not even bother. Let those who have the gift of preaching (prophesying) do their thing, so that everyone in the room can understand and be edified. Back in the old days before we had the complete word of God in our Bible, prophesying had to come from direct revelations from God. Old testament prophets had no choice without the fulness of the scriptures. Today, someone who's boldly quoting scripture is "prophesying". Someone giving a sermon from the scriptures is "prophesying". Sharing the gospel boldly is "prophesying". In the context of today's time, that's why prophesying is simply to preach scriptural truths. Having a gift for it means you can do such preaching boldly without reserve.
The word rapture is in the Catholic Latin Vulgate bible. In the 1950s and 60s as Catholics were taught about the that it is real or bishops believed in the rapture are priests gave sermons at church about the rapture the nuns taught us in grade school about the rapture.. and during an 11-year revival in the Catholic Church starting in 1957 up to around 1968 we were taught about the rapture.. and they taught us in grade school that we would be ruptured right before the mark of the beast... And I was a witness to this.. also I received a vision dream about the rapture so the confirmation comes in threes........
Pastor I've been asking this question but no one can answer. Are the TRIBULATION and WRATH TWO DIFFERENT OCCURRENCES?? IF SO , will we be taken in the Rapture before the TRIB or before the WRATH????
Luke Noordink I cant wait for us to be take from this awful hatred filled wickedness filled world I am almost 14 and I still feel like it has gotten worse since I was born and I’m not even that old
le monke just keep trusting in Jesus and keep reading your bible, Old Testament and New Testament and look up, for our redemption draws close. It may be today, tomorrow or even 5 to 10 years for the rapture. God bless you
At 7:42 into message preacher proclaims 'he has to, he has 7 min 47 sec left," no you do not, this is not your message, it's God's. Preacher, take heed, sir.
Where does the bible say that John is representing the church in heaven? Or that the 24 Elders represent the saints? He is heaving a personal vision of the things to come yes but that's it. Jack needs to real the whole passage and not cherry pick out of context. People read revelation for yourselves please. There are saints under the throne waiting till all the rest of the saints on earth are all killed and THEN they get their retribution with Christ. Do not count on pre-trib rapture, it is not biblical. There is only ONE rapture and is right before the 2nd coming, that's at the end. Be aware of this and stay strong if you get to experience the end times.
It doesnt matter, it will happen and you will go so why kick up a fuss and cause arguments and distractions from reaching the lost. If we are running out of time then focus your mind on your relationship with God and on the lost
If you read this Jack; I love you and mean no disrespect as you are the main Christian influence that has made me who I am today. At 9:00, you teach Isaiah has a rapture passage. You had not always taught that Isaiah 26:19-27:2 was the rapture. The pre trib position (in general) has always been that Paul revealed the mystery of the rapture to New Testament Christian and that the rapture was NOT in the OT. I have always believed that Isaiah 26:19 was the rapture. Glad to now see we are on the same page. Here is my interjection: The pre trib position is that the rapture is the marriage of a Jewish husband to a Gentile bride and as such, the time of the gentile will divide the “Church Age” from the “70th week.” Well, Isaiah was Jewish and “come my people” would be Israel just like Daniel 9:24-27 is a message for Israel. As a pre wrath believer in the rapture, I see no issue with this as Jesus went down to set all captives free from Abraham’s bosom. These were Jewish and Gentile saints waiting for the promise. So we have Jew and Gentile souls in Heaven now. Isaiah 26:19 is the rapture and when it happens, the dead bodies of Jews and Gentile will be raised from the dead and we who are in Christ at the rapture, will transform and join them. If so, the bride will not Gentile exclusively but rather mixed. God will deal with rebellious Israel in the 70th week, but as God has made a way for both Jew and Gentile (from Adam til now), He will deal with a Laodicean Church at the same time He deals with rebellious Israel. We do not HAVE to be gone until His wrath begins (not necessarily when the 70th week begins because the bride will not be exclusively gentile from the “age of the gentiles”). Here is where we differ: Pre trib sees the seals of Revelation as Gods wrath beginning/ Pre wrath sees the 1st trumpet as Gods wrath beginning. Pre wrath is not trying to blast the blessed hope, we just have a different way of seeing all of scriptures. Love David Jugan.
Pre trib is false. Never mentioned in the Bible. Matthew 24 says immediately after the tribulation Jesus comes on a cloud and we are raptured. When Jesus comes to earth, we come with Him and He comes on a horse. So it’s DEFINITELY not pre trib
The only way pre-tribulationists can prove the rapture before the Tribulation is through inference and eisegesis. They use a lot if what ifs, buts and what abouts without solid Biblical exegesis. If your thumbnail pops up on my computer, expect rebuttal.
Robert Washburn I hope you’re just being funny as this event takes place in heaven and these are the saved during the tribulation. They are not the church; they are tribulation saints. If you’re not being funny, try asking Holy Spirit for understanding before reading.
Those are the Tribulation saints. In verse 14, John tells us _exactly_ who that multitude is, “These are the ones WHO COME OUT OF THE GREAT TRIBULATION, and washed their robes and made them white in the blood of the Lamb." If you look at what these people are wearing and doing, it is something _completely different_ than the 24 elders (Rev. 4) who are _already seated_ on thrones in Heaven and wearing "garments", not robes (it's a different Greek word, 'himation') and golden crowns. The multitude we see in John 7 are the same group that John introduces in Rev. 6:9-11. They are the souls under the altar of those, "who had been slain for the word of God and for the testimony which they held." They are then GIVEN robes (again, it's a different Greek word used, 'stole') and told to wait a little longer for the rest of those who will be killed just as they were. We see them again in John 7, doing the work that they are appointed to do before the Throne. They are _not_ the Church, but they _are_ saved and in Heaven. We see BOTH, distinct groups of people again in Rev. 20:4, "And I saw THRONES, AND THEY SAT ON THEM, AND JUDGMENT WAS COMMITTED TO THEM. _Then I saw the souls of those _*_who had been beheaded for their witness to Jesus and for the word of God, who had not worshiped the beast or his image, and had not received his mark on their foreheads or on their hands._* And they lived and reigned with Christ for a thousand years." Those seated on thrones are once again the elders, who have also been given the right to judge. Scripture clearly teaches that the Church will rule and reign with Christ, and also be in positions of judgment (2 Tim. 2:12, 1 Cor. 6:3, Rev. 2:26, Rev 20:6 to name a few). The second group are a different and distinct group of people. They are the Tribulation saints, made-up of those from every tribe, tongue, and nation. The Church is, too, but _this group_ had to die for their faith.
emaNyM You’ve added to scripture. Revelation 7:14 doesn’t say the great multitude comes out of THE great tribulation, it says they come OUT OF Great tribulation. In fact the Bible never refers to great tribulation as THEE great tribulation, MAN does! We ARE the Great multitude that no man can number whom John suddenly sees in heaven in the 6th seal. We are not appointed to WRATH but as the events of the 6th seal unfold we are raptured, thus we come OUT OF it. The 5th seal martyrs prove that up to the six seal no judgment has come upon the earth. Revelation 6:10 they ask God how long until he judges those living on the earth. These seals have actually been opening for hundreds of years. The 1st being the Spirit of antichrist. Jesus actually describes the first 4 seals in Matthew 24:4-7 and calls them the beginning of sorrows. Note: that the 5th seal martyrs are what John sees as SOULS but the 6th seal great multitude he describes as People! Job 5:19 He will deliver thee in six troubles yea in seven no evil will touch thee .
emaNyM It’s actually the Kings of the earth that prove the rapture is at the 6th seal . Matthew 24:29 -31 is the same rapture event with Christ’s 2nd coming at Armageddon. In the 6th seal the kings of the earth are HIDING and FEARFUL! Rev 6:16-17 in Matthew 24:30 Jesus says they mourn! This is BEFORE Satan gains control over them. BUT in Revelation 19:19 the same Kings are waging WAR against the Lord who comes BACK with His now WIFE ( revelation 19:7). 6th seal - Kings hiding...... “And the kings of the earth, and the great men, and the rich men, and the chief captains, and the mighty men, and every bondman, and every free man, hid themselves in the dens and in the rocks of the mountains; And said to the mountains and rocks, Fall on us, and hide us from the face of him that sitteth on the throne, and from the wrath of the Lamb:” Revelation 6:15-16 Armageddon kings are now at WAR..... “And I saw the beast, and the KINGS of the earth, and their armies, gathered together to make war against him that sat on the horse, and against his army.” Revelation 19:19 KJV The Bride is no longer a bride but now His WIFE...... “Let us be glad and rejoice, and give honour to him: for the marriage of the Lamb is come, and his WIFE hath made herself ready.” Revelation 19:7 KJV Scripture will always confirm scripture!
John, Hebrews, Isaiah, Luke, weren’t talking to the body of Christ or about the rapture. the body of Christ was born a year after the cross when Paul was saved, not at pentecost. Revelation was written to/for Israel only and their redemption, not the body of Christ. the body of Christ does not return at the 2nd coming w/ Jesus. He comes with His armies the angels. (Matt 25:31, Rev 19:14) this vid is strictly churchianity and not the word of truth. the only rapture is for the body of Christ in the bible is in Paul’s epistles. (Rom-Phi) John 14 was Jesus speaking to jews about His 2nd coming! it is not about rapture! 2 different people groups jews/gentiles 2 different gospels Acts2:28/ 1Cor15:1-4 2 different destinies earthly kingdom/ heavenly places
Jack starts with NT passages that have the word rapture or it’s equivalent. He says the word “simply means caught up”. He then reaches back into the OT prophetic/apocalyptic passages, ie. Is 26, and reads them into the NT “rapture” passages. So... those passages no longer imply “simply caught up”. He imposes his entire Dispensational grid over the text and makes it fit. Jack asks, “is there any evidence in the bible that the church escapes the tribulation period, yes”. Then he grabs the OT text as proof. But we need to let the NT interpret the OT, not vice versa. National Israel (the church in her infancy), the NT, Paul, Christ and the church in entire period between the first and second coming testify to the church going through and being in continual tribulations.
National Israel is not the church "in her infancy" .The Church is not replacing Israel. We are grafted in. God still has a covenant with them. He does not break his covenants.
No one is escaping the great tribulation . This pastor has no idea what he is talking about and is not hearing God on this issue . The church will go through trials and tribulations and you will have to teach your children to lay thier lives down for christ when their persecuted and given the ultimatum to recieve the mark of the beast or die
Why are the redeemed in the throne room saying Jesus is worthy to start the tribulation by opening the seals? Revelation 5:9 King James Version (KJV) 9 And they sung a new song, saying, Thou art worthy to take the book, and to open the seals thereof: for thou wast slain, and hast redeemed us to God by thy blood out of every kindred, and tongue, and people, and nation;
You’re welcome to go through it. The church isn’t. Nobody would populate the millennial kingdom. Jesus isn’t gonna beat up His bride and then rapture her. It’s clear all over the Bible.
Robert Washburn You cannot use this epistle and thrust it 2000 years into the future; you’re ignoring the first rule of hermeneutics which is audience relevance...........It has a time stamp, it’s specific as when Paul talks about the man of sin “sitting in the temple of God”.........The temple was destroyed in 70AD so still standing when Paul wrote this in 52AD.........It makes zero sense when applied to the 21st century..
Robert Washburn It makes me so very sad to see replies like yours; it makes me want to weep.......I didn’t take the time to write this to say “I know better than you”, it’s for the glory of our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ....... Just one thing and I won’t bother you Robert.........Please read your Bible one more time from the point of view of the first century new believers - put on their dusty sandals and take off the modern day Left Behind stuff, the obsession with a rapture, and do a little research on the destruction of Jerusalem and her Temple in 70AD.......... I promise you it will be one of the most satisfying things you’ll ever do, it will bring the Bible to life, you’ll understand it better and you’ll see the real true glory of Christ who has risen and rules at the right hand of God..... God bless you 🙏🏽💛
As I was listening to you, pastor Hibbs, I was just smiling with exictement all the time! The Lord Jesus is coming soon! Oh, yes He is!!! So we have to tell everybody! Amen.
I have a smile on my face every day thinking about it no matter what is going on in this world. We have that hope, the Blessed Hope. Maranatha!
Me too!! 😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊
I have been ready for several years and even more now than ever....everything is lining up....just waiting for God to call us all up to be with him....Lord I am SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO ready!!!! IN JESUS NAME I PRAY AMEN!!!!
Me too! But the Spirit always reminds me to ask for His direction and focus to endure until He comes.. this year I am homeschooling my 11 yr old son. Last year we kindof wet our feet with half public school and half home 'school'.. anyways, he was DRAGGING his feet on everything I was trying to do with him, the only subject he really enjoyed was Bible. Well, one day my husband asked him why he was so uninterested in school and he said, "Because Jesus is coming soon so what is the difference?" That gave me mixed feelings... but the Hubs came to me and told me about this and said, "You probably should talk to him about this." So I did, and it was EXACTLY what I needed to REALLY understand at that moment in my life, that we are to occupy until He comes and stay the course because our enlistment in His Army is not over and the Mission is not completed until we have finished the race set before us and have grabbed as MANY people for the Kingdom as we have opportunity to. But, yes, I look around at this world and the evil being called good and my heart wants to sink a bit but then I remember what He has promised me... SO much good!! We will battle on together each in our own parts of the world and on THAT Day we will meet at the threshold of HOME♡♡♡
@@Standing.W.Israel OMG....I've had my son enrolled into a charter school this past year and this year as well....he too told me what was the point in going to school if God will just come down and get us soon....I also had to talk to him about what we needed to do "in the mean time" not to just quit and stop what we were doing....life is continuing while God is making his plans....this is incredible I feel we are on the right path and we just continue on from there and try to gather as many followers as possible....
Me too!! I just with my husband and kids would go with me 😞
IYearn4HisReturn love that verse! I pray for them all daily. I invite them to church. I talk to them and when they get mad I go and pray some more.
IYearn4HisReturn 2 are. 3 are teens. 2 of those listen to God’s word so I worry about three.
Thank you for this lesson! It will be a day like no other... Glorious beyond comprehension! Blessed be the day of The Lord! 🙏♥️
Love this series! Thank you, Pastor Jack, for preaching the Word boldly! ❤️
Rapture Watchers AMEN HALLELUJAH PRAISE GOD FOREVERMORE 🔯✝️🙏🕊❤️
Love this preacher he speaks the truth. The real thing! 👍
Those who know their bible know he doesn't speak the truth.
Does anyone have rapture brain like me? Just thinking about it all the time. I do. I keep thinking about that verse 1 Thessalonians 4:16 (KJV) For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:
This is one of my favorite verses. Imagine how loud it will be, how loud the shout and the trumpet will sound! I just cant wait. I cant wait to go home and be with my Lord and Savior forever.
check out "The Watchman" on youtube, his videos are really good at highlighting The Lord's return through news and headlines throughout the globe.
@@hobbz4921 I subscribe to " The Watchman" for about two years. His video are good. I pray people will find them useful after the rapture.
that's funny cuz I was thinking the same thing. I mean, will these videos be deleted or made outlawed? or will they still be available to covert the few sane minds that are left behind?
@@hobbz4921 those that are on the fence who weren't sure about God but wanted to know more....these videos will definitely help them decide. Before the NWO takes them down anyone who downloaded them will be able to share them to those who need to hear and see what we've been saying all this time. Funny how during this time it's the new Christians or the saints that will be operating on the dark web to reach people.
Yeah, I imagine that there will be a lot of Bible burning at that time - analog and digital - but there will be the two witnesses as well as 144000 jewish virgins to share the gospel at that time though.
Thank you for a bold message and standing up for God’s word. Even though California is threatening retaliation against you for upholding God’s word you remain strong. God bless you!
What can the state do to him and his church? Are they trying to shut it down?
Natasha Mudford in California, it is now illegal to try to minister to someone who is LGBTQ.
@@donnawalton543 "Minister to" as in share the gospel... or as in talk to them about conversion back to straightness?
Natasha Mudford ministering to them that homosexuality is a sin and counseling them on turning away from that sin.
We lift you up to the LORD JESUS CHRIST. Speaking the truth in love until the day of the LORD. God bless you Pastor Jack
Thank you Pastor Jack...I really love how excited you get when you preach! I get fired up too....we should be the happiest most excited people on earth!!! When someone asks us why we just need to say Jesus. It is the REAL DEAL!!! ❤️🇨🇦🙏🏼
I love this, counting the days...living for Jesus , seeing him face to face...tis so sweet to trust in Jesus!
Maranatha pastor Jack, Amen our hope and we are eagerly watching for our Lord.
Thank you pastor Hibbs. I feel so foreign from this world. I feel like an alien in this world we are in. I look forward to being with You Jesus! Please people,
if you don't look forward to his coming....call on His name!!!
Anyone else notice a different SPIRIT in Pre-Trib teachers vs. those who teach Against it?
Pre tribbers are m ore excited :D
Lorraine Baron TRUE, But I also sense more Love of God.
Ken Potter yessss! I’ve been called nasty names by post tribbers. I’ve been told I’m going to hell. All kinds of ugly things. Pre-tribbers don’t come across like that. But they think they have more time which is a complete lie from the pit of hell. And not one of them can answer on who will repopulate the millennium kingdom. We sure won’t with new bodies and if we are all raptured after the tribulation and the unsaved don’t make it in.......
Pre vs mid vs post, i pray everyone remains faithful in the event a post tribulation rapture happens. I pray that all pretribbers keep their faith strong if they start seeing the anti christ execute his full on persecution upon all believers. Either way may God bless everyone
IYearn4HisReturn agree completely! I left a church years ago for pushing OSAS and that you could do whatever as long as you were “saved” at one point. We all have free will to walk away. My husband is a prime example.
Amazing preaching Pastor Hibbs. Such encouraging words from the Bible. Come Lord Jesus. Amen.
Yes I’m so looking forward that day !! Jesus please come quickly!! 😃
Thank you
1 Thessalonians 5: 1-9 says it all 🙏🏾
People keep denying the rapture and i know it will come.
Those verses teach Prewrath, not Pretib.
We are not appointed to wrath.
We are appointed to tribulation.
John 16:33, "These things I have spoken unto you, that in me ye might have peace. In the world ye shall have tribulation: but be of good cheer; I have overcome the world."
Chris Maguire
I understand that many people believe in pretrib, but that doesn’t make it true or biblical.
The argument about “the church” not being in Revelation past chapter 3 doesn’t even make sense because the references to the saints, the great multitude that no one can count, the souls under the altar, those who overcome the beast, etc. are all descriptions of people who make up “the church.”
That would be like me saying since the wording “the church” is not also used in Revelation 19, that means the church is not at the supper of the Lamb or not retuning with Jesus at Armageddon because those events are also described without using the words “the church.”
The truth is, the whole book of Revelation is for and about what happens to the “the church” during Daniel’s 70th week.
Revelation 22:16, “I, Jesus, have sent my angel to give you this testimony for *THE CHURCHES* . I am the Root and the Offspring of David, and the bright Morning Star.”
Chris Maguire
Yes, we are the bride, just like we are the saints.
Bride = church, Saints = church....No difference. That is my point. There is one body, one spirit, one faith, one hope, one baptism, one Lord, one Father of all.
Also, I agree with you that there is a lot of noise right now in regards to the rapture...And all that truly matters is Jesus.
However, out of love and concern,
I will caution you about saying that the 144,000 will be preaching the gospel during the tribulation. This is never directly stated in any Bible verse. Revelation 22:18 has a severe warning about adding to the book of Revelation. So please be cautious about promoting that idea.
God bless!
Thank you Jack for continuing this series, which is under attack so often, even by some Christians.
Seems like most of the pushback I see is from other "believers" it's crazy! But it is EXCITING because it is one of the many things that Jesus said would happen towards the end...
@@Standing.W.Israel Right On MA, it is 💖
Thank you so much Pastor Jack for sharing this message that I heard live in Toronto. God Bless you.
How i wish you could come and speak in my Church for a few days. We don't know it but we are Christians drowning in our works and programs. Like the Church in Revelation. We have forgotten about our first love.
The world is being prepared for the return of Yeshua whether people want to believe it or not. Pray for salvation for those who are lost. Be the light and make sure you have plenty of oil for the time is very near, nearer than we may think. 🛐✝️💜
I'm so excited... I get butterflies inside my spirit.
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These messages are so encouraging! Thank you! Jesus is LORD. J:o)...
Pastor Jack this is such an amazing sermon thank you I'm so glad I found you while watching you on The Watchman praise our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ.
Thank you for ministering to us pastor Jack! Thank you for your faithfulness. God bless you for not tickling our ears, stating the truth in love on what Gods Word says on how we should live our lives.
Heard in April: Tell them I am coming soon! There will be a great shaking.
Thank you for covering this topic
Hew Haw!!!!. Thank you Jack Hibbs for another great sermon. When this world and what's in it gets to me. I all ways listen to sermons on the Rapture, because I will not have to endure this forever. May the Lord protect and bless you like Amir tells us.
Barbara Bradley yes! Me too! Love these messages!
Awesome Message Pastor Jack, Love❤ it I can't wait till the Day He takes Us All Home❤🙏➕🕊
Pastor Jack, I love your preaching and teaching.
Thank you, you are right!
I can’t stop crying ...
the church is going through the tribulation - Christians are going to be martyred for their Believe in JESUS!!!!!
Romans 5:9, 1st Thess. 1:10 & 5:9-11, tell me that we won't be here when God pours out His wrath and judgment on this earth, which is what the tribulation period will be - God pouring out His divine wrath and judgement on this wicked world.
Furthermore, why isn't the church mentioned in Revelation, chapters 6 to 18? When the church finally is mentioned in Revelation 19, she's seen in heaven, adorned as a bride. How did the church get their? The rapture!
So I'm absolutely conviced that the church will be caught up and out before hand.
Hallelujah!
Pastor Jack, I wrote out the prayer, recited it now and will recite a few times every day. I live in Las Vegas, NV.
Why should we believe we will be spared any sort of suffering when Jesus went through so much for us? I believe we will go through suffering and that it will be worth all of the pain and even unto death to prove our love for the father.
Thank you for the message you bring🌷. God Bless You! 🙏😇🐑👑⏰🎺🕊
Amen,Amen!
Scripture says he will come to His own, for His own and with His own.
Come, Lord Jesus!
*Its almost rapture time people, have you accepted Christ? God i hope so!!!*
I love you Pastor Jack!:)
Thank you pastor jack you rock.
With excitment and expectancy .
well presented...especially with reference to Isaiah 26
I look up everyday
All those that John saw in Heaven we're the ones that were in Abraham's bosom and Jesus led out at his resurrection.
Maranatha
Amen.
It's good to be excited about our future and I am, but we also need to be very concerned about the futures of the unbelievers. We were directed by Jesus in Matthew 28:19 to go to all the nations, preaching the Good News of salvation.
Yayy 🙌🙌🙌
Wow, Jack, you're almost at 100,000. This is good, but I am surprised it's not double
you have to have faith and believe in the rapture to go up. its all Faith praise JESUS
This guy is great. Get those likes and subs up brothers and sisters!
Hey Pastor Jack! You have the 24-CTU desk phone as your alarm? SO DO I! I heard it on the video and kept looking at my phone.... which was not ringing!! It kind of freaked me out. I've never heard of anyone else having it :-) PS - Love, Love, Love your videos/teachings.
I have the same
Hi I dont know how far you reach but I live the UK & would love to find a church that preaches your kind of message. Real bible messages 👍🙏 If you do reach this far can you help me please? I live in the county of Devon in the sw thank you God bless you 🙏
Of COURSE it matters... your whole entire interpretation of reality is based on your worldview and your belief, or lack of, on the topic of the Rapture (AKA The BLESSED HOPE!!!!) is a HUGE part of that worldview. What you believe affects your views, your views affect your attitude, and finally, your attitude affects your lifestyle. If you like living in insecurity and fear, which are NOT Mark's of a true Believer and follower in Jesus Christ, then by all means buy into the LIE that there is no Rapture or that there is no pre-tribulation Rapture! But know this: you WILL be held accountable for what you did or didn't do with the TRUTH God has freely given and allowed to be translated into every language for readily accessible understanding. What you BELIEVE about God will determine how you handle the TRUTH of HIS Word... it is as cut and dry as that. Thank you Pastor Hibbs for remaining FAITHFUL to THE Truth, to our Savior, and to His flock!!!!!!
Why is the church not of one opinion about the rapture? People like sadhu say never something about it. He goes to church in Germany and prepares the believers for the tribulation. I'm sad about the division in the body. Thats not normal. Jesus told us to be of one mind.
Hans im Glück I sat under Jack for over 15 years and he is amazing. I was a pre trib guy for the 1st 13 years. I am now pre wrath. It is ok to have differing opinion. I still listen to Jack and sit under a new pastor here in Reno who is equally pre trib. We love God, and wait for his return.
I am PREWRATH...Jesus said it would happen after the tribulation Matthew 24:29-30
@nettron101 I agree they are 2 separate events but why is Matthew 24 not about the rapture ? I see verses that support a rapture.
With that definition can you not just say then there is no retrieving believers before the tribulation, but BECAUSE OF THE TRIBULATION... many will be raptured, caught up with the message during those times?
2nd Thessalonians 2:1-8
Problems with what Jack says. Let me say this is NOT an attack on Jack Hibbs. I believe most of his interpretations of God's word but not all. The only reason I bring any of this up is because I have the spiritual gift of prophesy and I believe everyone needs to test what others are putting out. So having said that i also say this "don't believe anything I say". Test the scriptures for yourself and pray for discernment.
First.
Isaiah 26:19 Context
16LORD, in trouble have they visited thee, they poured out a prayer when thy chastening was upon them. 17Like as a woman with child, that draweth near the time of her delivery, is in pain, and crieth out in her pangs; so have we been in thy sight, O LORD. 18We have been with child, we have been in pain, we have as it were brought forth wind; we have not wrought any deliverance in the earth; neither have the inhabitants of the world fallen. 19Thy dead men shall live, together with my dead body shall they arise. Awake and sing, ye that dwell in dust: for thy dew is as the dew of herbs, and the earth shall cast out the dead. 20Come, my people, enter thou into thy chambers, and shut thy doors about thee: hide thyself as it were for a little moment, until the indignation be overpast. 21For, behold, the LORD cometh out of his place to punish the inhabitants of the earth for their iniquity: the earth also shall disclose her blood, and shall no more cover her slain.
Jack uses this for the calling up so we don't suffer the wrath. The problem is verse 20- 20 Come, my people, enter thou into thy chambers, and shut thy doors about thee: hide thyself as it were for a little moment, until the indignation be overpast.
We are to go into our chambers until it past. My understanding of the interpretation is we are taken up to the sky where Jesus will meet us and take us to Mount Zion where we will be protected while Jesus brings his wrath on the rest of the earth.
At min 11:53 Jack uses the same theory that most pre-tribulation rapture believers/preachers use and that is the church isn't mentioned again after Revelation 4:1 After this I looked, and, behold, a door was opened in heaven: and the first voice which I heard was as it were of a trumpet talking with me; which said, Come up hither, and I will shew thee things which must be hereafter.
2 And immediately I was in the spirit: and, behold, a throne was set in heaven, and one sat on the throne.
John has an out of body experience so he can be shown the representations of the things to come. However there is no Biblical evidence that this is the example of the rapture. For centuries preachers all over the world have taught how important it is to know God's word and to learn it. Jesus even says that not one jot or tittle will pass until all is fulfilled so how is it that this theory is based on what is NOT WRITTEN in God's word. They are saying this is the rapture because what the Bibles DOESN'T"T say from Revelation 1 on. How can we base any part of Christianity on what the Bible DOESN'T say. In my opinion this is adding to the word of God and bordering heresy (an opinion, doctrine, or practice contrary to the truth or to generally accepted beliefs or standards).
At 12:14 he says the bride is mentioned in Chapter 19 of revelation: And after these things I heard a great voice of much people in heaven, saying, Alleluia; Salvation, and glory, and honour, and power, unto the Lord our God:
This can't be definitely defined as the Bride of Christ. There are several passages through the word of God that talks about Heavenly host, angels and others giving praise to God from the Heavens.
New International Version
After this I heard what sounded like the roar of a great multitude in heaven shouting: "Hallelujah! Salvation and glory and power belong to our God,
New Living Translation
After this, I heard what sounded like a vast crowd in heaven shouting, “Praise the LORD! Salvation and glory and power belong to our God.
English Standard Version
After this I heard what seemed to be the loud voice of a great multitude in heaven, crying out, “Hallelujah! Salvation and glory and power belong to our God,
Berean Study Bible
After this I heard a sound like the roar of a great multitude in heaven, shouting: “Hallelujah! Salvation and glory and power belong to our God!
When the word of God means Bride it will say Bride.
12:44 Jack states the church will come down from Heaven back to earth. My question is why would Jesus go and prepare a place for us: John 14:2 Context
1Let not your heart be troubled: ye believe in God, believe also in me. 2In my Father's house are many mansions: if it were not so, I would have told you. I go to prepare a place for you. 3And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again, and receive you unto myself; that where I am, there ye may be also. 4And whither I go ye know, and the way ye know. 5Thomas saith unto him, Lord, we know not whither thou goest; and how can we know the way?
Why would Jesus prepare a place in Heaven for us only to be used during the wrath just to bring us back to earth/ He didn't do that for Noah or for Lot or for the children of Israel when God brought the plagues. So why would he do that?
12:55 The Bride riding on a white horse? Book, chapter and verse on that one please!
15:05 Jack reads out of Revelation and everyone needs to understand that everything John saw while in the spirit is a REPRESENTATION of the things to come or in some cases have come. Some of the representations are explained and some are not.
17:10 Jack says Johnis representing the church? This can be implied but it is not a definite interpretation of what is going on with John. The reason for what he is seeing is to pass on the information to future believers.
18:00 Jack says this is the ultimate mercy Luke 21:34 Context
31So likewise ye, when ye see these things come to pass, know ye that the kingdom of God is nigh at hand. 32Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass away, till all be fulfilled. 33Heaven and earth shall pass away: but my words shall not pass away. 34And take heed to yourselves, lest at any time your hearts be overcharged with surfeiting, and drunkenness, and cares of this life, and so that day come upon you unawares. 35For as a snare shall it come on all them that dwell on the face of the whole earth. 36Watch ye therefore, and pray always, that ye may be accounted worthy to escape all these things that shall come to pass, and to stand before the Son of man. 37And in the day time he was teaching in the temple; and at night he went out, and abode in the mount that is called the mount of Olives
This is NOT the ultimate mercy his dying on the cross so we could have eternal life with him is the ultimate mercy otherwise we would pay for our own sin by suffering the second death in Hell.
Scoffer: verb (used without object)
to speak derisively; mock; jeer (often followed by at): If you can't do any better, don't scoff. Their efforts toward a peaceful settlement are not to be scoffed at.
verb (used with object)
to mock at; deride.
noun
an expression of mockery, derision, doubt, or derisive scorn; jeer.
an object of mockery or derision.
So was Jack mocking a scoffer? Was that person a scoffer or just someone that has a different interpretation of what God's word says (like me!).
20:13 Jack talks about our citizenship. Lets look at the definition.
noun
the state of being vested with the rights, privileges, and duties of a citizen.
the character of an individual viewed as a member of society; behavior in terms of the duties, obligations, and functions of a citizen: an award for good citizenship.
It needs to be noted that we are NOT natural citizens of Heaven but grafted into the vine. John Chapter 15
3 Now ye are clean through the word which I have spoken unto you.
4 Abide in me, and I in you. As the branch cannot bear fruit of itself, except it abide in the vine; no more can ye, except ye abide in me.
5 I am the vine, ye [are] the branches: He that abideth in me, and I in him, the same bringeth forth much fruit: for without me ye can do nothing.
6 If a man abide not in me, he is cast forth as a branch, and is withered; and men gather them, and cast [them] into the fire, and they are burned.
As we are grafted in we BECOME citizens of the Kingdom of God.
Final: Overall it is a good teaching. Other than the doctrinal differences I have I still believe this can be used to help Christians to grow or at least search the word for their selves.
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If you haven't do so repent and believe on Jesus Christ as the one and only true son of God!
Revelation 22:19
And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book.
20 He which testifieth these things saith, Surely I come quickly. Amen. Even so, come, Lord Jesus.
21 The grace of our Lord Jesus Christ be with you all. Amen.
Interesting interpretation of scripture you have there, which I disagree with, but respect. I've been in enough of these discussions to know how they are going to turn out however; wisdom is knowing when to expound, when to be brief. The latter suffices here. It might be somewhat lengthy, but this is short for me LOL
There's a reason why we believe that Rev ch 19 is referring to the bride of Christ. "Fine linen, clean and white" is a jewish, historical item denoting a wedding gown. Note the difference between this "fine linen", and other believers (old testament saints, tribulation saints) who wear "white robes" in the book of Revelation. There is a reason for this difference. Various places in new testament scripture also refers to the grace-era church as a virgin betrothed to Christ. This further corroborates the imagery of the church as the bride of the Lamb. Look up Renald Showers and jewish feasts and customs. It'll shed a whole new light on the imagery found in the book of Revelation.
"My understanding of the interpretation is we are taken up to the sky where Jesus will meet us and take us to Mount Zion where we will be protected while Jesus brings his wrath on the rest of the earth."
There is no scriptural support for that.
As for the lack of mention of the church between Rev ch 5-18, it is not heresy at all. It is *NOT* the sole reason we believe the church will not be here for the tribulation. It's one of the *corroborating* evidence, but not the main one, nor only one. We look at all the various scripture passages that speak on end-times events, and then we draw our conclusions. You mentioned Lot and Noah missing the judgments of God, saying God spared them the judgment but kept them on the earth. That's a reasonable point, however you forget one thing, I think. The tribulation is going to be so incredibly terrible, it will be unlike anything the other has ever seen. The idea that God would keep the church on the earth and simply shield them during the tribulation is only a hypothesis and has no firm scriptural support. It may be valid, but there is no other corroborating scripture to back it up.
So why do we believe pre-trib? Because we believe when God says the church is not destined for His wrath, He means it. The wrath spoken of in 2nd Thess ch 2 has a context. It is not speaking of missing hell/lake of fire. The topic includes the "Day of Christ" and the antichrist....essentially, end-times events.
And of course, 1st Thess ch 4 speaks of the rapture. Paul spoke of these things as words of comfort (verse 18). How is it comforting believing that the rapture happens AFTER the tribulation? And what point would there be to go up into the sky and come right back down a split second later?
John ch 14 says we go up to meet Yeshua, so that where He is, there we may be also. Even if it's a short 7 years, it makes more sense than going up to Heaven, receive new glorified bodies, and then come back down in a nanosecond. At least with the pre-trib view, it matches other scriptures which say we are not destined for the wrath of God. It's also worth noting, verse 3 says:
"And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again and receive you unto Myself, that where I am, there ye may be also."
The greek behind "receive" has some interesting colour to it. It means to "pull up towards oneself".
And lastly, Paul believed he himself could have been the very ones who go up in the rapture. See 1st Thessalonians ch 4. How many times does Paul say "we" in verses 14-17? "For if WE believe..." "WE who are alive and remain", etc.
This is just a very brief covering of some of the reasons for the pre-trib rapture.
And no, you do not fall into the category of a scoffer. Read that scripture again, and you'll see it's quite specific in what it refers to. It's not merely about disagreeing on doctrine, it's full on mocking. It also specifically refers to people who don't even believe Yeshua will be coming back, period ("where is the promise of His coming..."). You're one of the very few who remain respectful in your tone and demeanour. I have seen some extremely horrible words come out of the mouths of professing believers, when they argue over the timing of the rapture. They even end up accusing each other of not being saved, as if eschatology is a salvation issue. It isn't. I don't agree with you, but I respect you all the same, because we're all imperfect people. As much as we want to stick to the truth, we're going to have some biases. It's inevitable. As such even though I disagree with you, I know you're still trying to interpret God's word the best you can and try to be led by the Spirit as much as possible. That's the same for us pre-tribbers as well. Maturity is being able to disagree agreeably on certain matters. Some things, such as salvation doctrine, is non-debatable. If someone deviates from the very essence of the gospel, they have "another gospel", a false gospel that will lead people to hell. Those things we stand 100% firm in, but things like eschatology we can be more flexible on.
And just a side note, the gift you claim to have is the gift of discernment, not the gift of prophesying. I don't think I need to give you a vocabulary lesson on the word "discernment", but I do believe you may have an incorrect belief on what it means to prophesy, in the context of spiritual gifts (Romans ch 12, 1st Cor ch 12-14). The greek behind the word "prophesy" is "propheteia". It means simply to preach. The gift of prophesying is the ability to speak God's word boldly and unabashedly. This is why Paul says in 1st Cor ch 14, he would prefer that congregation members prophesy rather than speak in tongues. He's not saying he wants people walking around the room foretelling the future. What he means is it would be better for people to hear the word of God being preached in the common tongue, and everyone able to understand, than for someone to speak in tongues with the possibility there is no interpretation, and no one in the room knows what the speaker is saying at all. The same passage goes on to say, if there is no interpreter, the person speaking in tongues should not even bother. Let those who have the gift of preaching (prophesying) do their thing, so that everyone in the room can understand and be edified.
Back in the old days before we had the complete word of God in our Bible, prophesying had to come from direct revelations from God. Old testament prophets had no choice without the fulness of the scriptures. Today, someone who's boldly quoting scripture is "prophesying". Someone giving a sermon from the scriptures is "prophesying". Sharing the gospel boldly is "prophesying". In the context of today's time, that's why prophesying is simply to preach scriptural truths. Having a gift for it means you can do such preaching boldly without reserve.
The word rapture is in the Catholic Latin Vulgate bible. In the 1950s and 60s as Catholics were taught about the that it is real or bishops believed in the rapture are priests gave sermons at church about the rapture the nuns taught us in grade school about the rapture.. and during an 11-year revival in the Catholic Church starting in 1957 up to around 1968 we were taught about the rapture.. and they taught us in grade school that we would be ruptured right before the mark of the beast... And I was a witness to this.. also I received a vision dream about the rapture so the confirmation comes in threes........
Pastor
I've been asking this question but no one can answer. Are the TRIBULATION and WRATH TWO DIFFERENT OCCURRENCES??
IF SO , will we be taken in the Rapture before the TRIB or before the WRATH????
Yes, we will be raptured before the trubulation. Doesn't hurt to listen to his video twice. God bless you!🙏
@IYearn4HisReturn
Thank you
Pastor I have to talk to you.
I believe in the “rapture” because that will be the look on my face when it happens and I see Jesus
Luke Noordink I cant wait for us to be take from this awful hatred filled wickedness filled world I am almost 14 and I still feel like it has gotten worse since I was born and I’m not even that old
le monke just keep trusting in Jesus and keep reading your bible, Old Testament and New Testament and look up, for our redemption draws close. It may be today, tomorrow or even 5 to 10 years for the rapture. God bless you
Remember two witnesses come . First when year 2020
Where in the Bible does it say the 2 witnesses come in 2020? 🤔
At 7:42 into message preacher proclaims 'he has to, he has 7 min 47 sec left," no you do not, this is not your message, it's God's. Preacher, take heed, sir.
He's being light-hearted with that comment.
Where does the bible say that John is representing the church in heaven? Or that the 24 Elders represent the saints? He is heaving a personal vision of the things to come yes but that's it. Jack needs to real the whole passage and not cherry pick out of context. People read revelation for yourselves please. There are saints under the throne waiting till all the rest of the saints on earth are all killed and THEN they get their retribution with Christ. Do not count on pre-trib rapture, it is not biblical. There is only ONE rapture and is right before the 2nd coming, that's at the end. Be aware of this and stay strong if you get to experience the end times.
It doesnt matter, it will happen and you will go so why kick up a fuss and cause arguments and distractions from reaching the lost. If we are running out of time then focus your mind on your relationship with God and on the lost
Jack why are half of all Christians left behind.
If you read this Jack; I love you and mean no disrespect as you are the main Christian influence that has made me who I am today. At 9:00, you teach Isaiah has a rapture passage. You had not always taught that Isaiah 26:19-27:2 was the rapture. The pre trib position (in general) has always been that Paul revealed the mystery of the rapture to New Testament Christian and that the rapture was NOT in the OT. I have always believed that Isaiah 26:19 was the rapture. Glad to now see we are on the same page. Here is my interjection: The pre trib position is that the rapture is the marriage of a Jewish husband to a Gentile bride and as such, the time of the gentile will divide the “Church Age” from the “70th week.” Well, Isaiah was Jewish and “come my people” would be Israel just like Daniel 9:24-27 is a message for Israel. As a pre wrath believer in the rapture, I see no issue with this as Jesus went down to set all captives free from Abraham’s bosom. These were Jewish and Gentile saints waiting for the promise. So we have Jew and Gentile souls in Heaven now. Isaiah 26:19 is the rapture and when it happens, the dead bodies of Jews and Gentile will be raised from the dead and we who are in Christ at the rapture, will transform and join them. If so, the bride will not Gentile exclusively but rather mixed.
God will deal with rebellious Israel in the 70th week, but as God has made a way for both Jew and Gentile (from Adam til now), He will deal with a Laodicean Church at the same time He deals with rebellious Israel. We do not HAVE to be gone until His wrath begins (not necessarily when the 70th week begins because the bride will not be exclusively gentile from the “age of the gentiles”). Here is where we differ: Pre trib sees the seals of Revelation as Gods wrath beginning/ Pre wrath sees the 1st trumpet as Gods wrath beginning.
Pre wrath is not trying to blast the blessed hope, we just have a different way of seeing all of scriptures.
Love David Jugan.
Pre trib is false. Never mentioned in the Bible. Matthew 24 says immediately after the tribulation Jesus comes on a cloud and we are raptured. When Jesus comes to earth, we come with Him and He comes on a horse. So it’s DEFINITELY not pre trib
The only way pre-tribulationists can prove the rapture before the Tribulation is through inference and eisegesis. They use a lot if what ifs, buts and what abouts without solid Biblical exegesis. If your thumbnail pops up on my computer, expect rebuttal.
I see the Church in Revelation 7:9-10
Robert Washburn I hope you’re just being funny as this event takes place in heaven and these are the saved during the tribulation. They are not the church; they are tribulation saints. If you’re not being funny, try asking Holy Spirit for understanding before reading.
Those are the Tribulation saints. In verse 14, John tells us _exactly_ who that multitude is,
“These are the ones WHO COME OUT OF THE GREAT TRIBULATION, and washed their robes and made them white in the blood of the Lamb."
If you look at what these people are wearing and doing, it is something _completely different_ than the 24 elders (Rev. 4) who are _already seated_ on thrones in Heaven and wearing "garments", not robes (it's a different Greek word, 'himation') and golden crowns. The multitude we see in John 7 are the same group that John introduces in Rev. 6:9-11. They are the souls under the altar of those, "who had been slain for the word of God and for the testimony which they held." They are then GIVEN robes (again, it's a different Greek word used, 'stole') and told to wait a little longer for the rest of those who will be killed just as they were.
We see them again in John 7, doing the work that they are appointed to do before the Throne. They are _not_ the Church, but they _are_ saved and in Heaven. We see BOTH, distinct groups of people again in Rev. 20:4,
"And I saw THRONES, AND THEY SAT ON THEM, AND JUDGMENT WAS COMMITTED TO THEM. _Then I saw the souls of those _*_who had been beheaded for their witness to Jesus and for the word of God, who had not worshiped the beast or his image, and had not received his mark on their foreheads or on their hands._* And they lived and reigned with Christ for a thousand years."
Those seated on thrones are once again the elders, who have also been given the right to judge. Scripture clearly teaches that the Church will rule and reign with Christ, and also be in positions of judgment (2 Tim. 2:12, 1 Cor. 6:3, Rev. 2:26, Rev 20:6 to name a few). The second group are a different and distinct group of people. They are the Tribulation saints, made-up of those from every tribe, tongue, and nation. The Church is, too, but _this group_ had to die for their faith.
emaNyM You’ve added to scripture. Revelation 7:14 doesn’t say the great multitude comes out of THE great tribulation, it says they come OUT OF Great tribulation.
In fact the Bible never refers to great tribulation as THEE great tribulation, MAN does!
We ARE the Great multitude that no man can number whom John suddenly sees in heaven in the 6th seal.
We are not appointed to WRATH but as the events of the 6th seal unfold we are raptured, thus we come OUT OF it.
The 5th seal martyrs prove that up to the six seal no judgment has come upon the earth. Revelation 6:10 they ask God how long until he judges those living on the earth. These seals have actually been opening for hundreds of years.
The 1st being the Spirit of antichrist. Jesus actually describes the first 4 seals in Matthew 24:4-7 and calls them the beginning of sorrows.
Note: that the 5th seal martyrs are what John sees as SOULS but the 6th seal great multitude he describes as People!
Job 5:19 He will deliver thee in six troubles yea in seven no evil will touch thee .
emaNyM It’s actually the Kings of the earth that prove the rapture is at the 6th seal . Matthew 24:29 -31 is the same rapture event with Christ’s 2nd coming at Armageddon.
In the 6th seal the kings of the earth are HIDING and FEARFUL!
Rev 6:16-17 in Matthew 24:30 Jesus says they mourn!
This is BEFORE Satan gains control over them. BUT in Revelation 19:19 the same Kings are waging WAR against the Lord who comes BACK with His now WIFE ( revelation 19:7).
6th seal - Kings hiding......
“And the kings of the earth, and the great men, and the rich men, and the chief captains, and the mighty men, and every bondman, and every free man, hid themselves in the dens and in the rocks of the mountains; And said to the mountains and rocks, Fall on us, and hide us from the face of him that sitteth on the throne, and from the wrath of the Lamb:”
Revelation 6:15-16
Armageddon kings are now at WAR.....
“And I saw the beast, and the KINGS of the earth, and their armies, gathered together to make war against him that sat on the horse, and against his army.”
Revelation 19:19 KJV
The Bride is no longer a bride but now His WIFE......
“Let us be glad and rejoice, and give honour to him: for the marriage of the Lamb is come, and his WIFE hath made herself ready.”
Revelation 19:7 KJV
Scripture will always confirm scripture!
John, Hebrews, Isaiah, Luke, weren’t talking to the body of Christ or about the rapture.
the body of Christ was born a year after the cross when Paul was saved, not at pentecost.
Revelation was written to/for Israel only and their redemption, not the body of Christ.
the body of Christ does not return at the 2nd coming w/ Jesus. He comes with His armies the angels. (Matt 25:31, Rev 19:14)
this vid is strictly churchianity and not the word of truth.
the only rapture is for the body of Christ in the bible is in Paul’s epistles. (Rom-Phi)
John 14 was Jesus speaking to jews about His 2nd coming! it is not about rapture!
2 different people groups
jews/gentiles
2 different gospels
Acts2:28/ 1Cor15:1-4
2 different destinies
earthly kingdom/ heavenly places
Jack starts with NT passages that have the word rapture or it’s equivalent. He says the word “simply means caught up”. He then reaches back into the OT prophetic/apocalyptic passages, ie. Is 26, and reads them into the NT “rapture” passages. So... those passages no longer imply “simply caught up”. He imposes his entire Dispensational grid over the text and makes it fit. Jack asks, “is there any evidence in the bible that the church escapes the tribulation period, yes”. Then he grabs the OT text as proof. But we need to let the NT interpret the OT, not vice versa. National Israel (the church in her infancy), the NT, Paul, Christ and the church in entire period between the first and second coming testify to the church going through and being in continual tribulations.
Brandon Stafford You either don’t know what you’re talking about or don’t know how to interpret the Bible.
National Israel is not the church "in her infancy" .The Church is not replacing Israel. We are grafted in. God still has a covenant with them. He does not break his covenants.
I do not know how I could let the new interpret the old when the Old came first. It only makes sense that the old testament would interpret the new.
Brandon Stafford brother we need to ask God to humble ourselves..the rapture us so very clear in the bible
.how can you not see it.
Mike Pence? He threw Trump under the bus so……not sure about your confidence in him?
To say the Lord is coming after anything is just wrong.
Jesus is not coming after a "thing". Jesus is coming after the "people" who have given their life to Him. The people = The church.
No one is escaping the great tribulation . This pastor has no idea what he is talking about and is not hearing God on this issue . The church will go through trials and tribulations and you will have to teach your children to lay thier lives down for christ when their persecuted and given the ultimatum to recieve the mark of the beast or die
Why are the redeemed in the throne room saying Jesus is worthy to start the tribulation by opening the seals? Revelation 5:9 King James Version (KJV)
9 And they sung a new song, saying, Thou art worthy to take the book, and to open the seals thereof: for thou wast slain, and hast redeemed us to God by thy blood out of every kindred, and tongue, and people, and nation;
You’re welcome to go through it. The church isn’t. Nobody would populate the millennial kingdom. Jesus isn’t gonna beat up His bride and then rapture her. It’s clear all over the Bible.
2nd Thessalonians 2:1-8
Robert Washburn
You cannot use this epistle and thrust it 2000 years into the future; you’re ignoring the first rule of hermeneutics which is audience relevance...........It has a time stamp, it’s specific as when Paul talks about the man of sin “sitting in the temple of God”.........The temple was destroyed in 70AD so still standing when Paul wrote this in 52AD.........It makes zero sense when applied to the 21st century..
@@lavieenrose5954 makeup what you want.
Robert Washburn
It makes me so very sad to see replies like yours; it makes me want to weep.......I didn’t take the time to write this to say “I know better than you”, it’s for the glory of our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ.......
Just one thing and I won’t bother you Robert.........Please read your Bible one more time from the point of view of the first century new believers - put on their dusty sandals and take off the modern day Left Behind stuff, the obsession with a rapture, and do a little research on the destruction of Jerusalem and her Temple in 70AD..........
I promise you it will be one of the most satisfying things you’ll ever do, it will bring the Bible to life, you’ll understand it better and you’ll see the real true glory of Christ who has risen and rules at the right hand of God.....
God bless you 🙏🏽💛