CO2 - Do I need it in my grow room?
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- CO2 - Do I need it in my grow room?
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I really really want to say thank you brother you're the only one out there on his CZcams channel that actually replies to me and gives me my answers to my question I just want to say thank you and I hope you stay lifted and God bless brother
Not a problem. I might not be able to get to all of them.
Although i will do my best.
Mark
This isn't just growing advices, this is enlighten wisdom
I consider co2 a nutrient additive the way it works / 40% more yield
But IMO when you say -
3:42 you spend $$ 1k’s of dollars yes that’s true , but it doesn’t mean your not going to pay attention to light , nutrients etc ….. cause honestly once you invest into the Co2 tanks and accessories it’s an investment , then you get your money back from it 100% on your first run . It pays for itself and if your a great grower you don’t take away from adding . You add when you can and you do the best to upgrade other stuff as you grow . It’s an investment as well as a routine , you can’t ever spend money and set it and forget it , you have to direct everything and study . But add co2 it’s an annoying thing that if you don’t , your not growing better then the next guy your just growing . Grow better and study and use co2 no matter what
I do really appreciate the effort here, it may depend on regions but here are some realistic price figures. 20 lb
c02 tank:200 deposit to own a core at local airgas plus 15 dollars per refill
regulator plus autopilot monitor and datalogger:400
with this setup i am able to maintain 900-1300 ppm of c02 in a 5x5. i disperse my c02 very slowly at .5 cfh. i keep my exhaust fan on low always and am able to make each tank last about a month. i am able to always keep in tent temperatures sub 85°f. there are a lot of wrong ways to do c02 but with a little trial and error along with some critical thinking, you can get it done. when all is sourced efficiently, a bottle is by far the most cost effective and sustainable form of c02 enrichment available
I agree, the bags are so expensive, and the quality is always an issue. Showing up already activated 4 out of the 5 times I've ordered them, and him saying it only takes a week to empty a tank is INSANE, unless he is referring to a tiny tank. I run a 20lb c02 tank in a room around 300sqft with 75 plants. PPMs around 1000-1300 during daylight periods. Also, I only start my c02 the day after I flip my girls. I've noticed the difference in veg growth with co2 is small, but during their stretch weeks with co2, they GROW so fast, and my yield has increased quite a bit and my wallet thanks me. Filling up my 20lb monthly cost me 15$. Tip: Go to your local welding/welding supply store to refill. 10$ cheaper than my local hydro store. Again, never messed with mushrooms, and how much co2 they go through. Just thought I would share my experience on the matter, but him saying THOUSANDS of dollars for a co2 tank set up is laughable. My entire set up, brand new, tank, controller and regulator (everything you need) cost me around 360$. You will 100% save/make your money back using a tank, instead of the "bags". The lifespan on them is awful, plus like I said, the overall quality of them is a joke. I would only recommend bags personally for someone growing in a "closet grow". Like a 3x3 space give or take.
I really appreciate you man you actually talk to us like we are in person other videos formats are always so withdrawn and sometimes hard to grasp the understanding they are intending to relay
Ty bro
Adding co2 to 900ppm in a 12×16 room I'll get a month out of a 20lb tank. If you're in a small tent it'll last several months. Not sure where the numbers came from here.
well explained man. So many chads out there who dunno how to wear a hat telling people to use baking soda.. ugh the state of the world i tell you..
I just stumbled across your channel. First time instantly subscribed lol. This channel is awesome.
Ty joe
I appreciate it:)
Great video, thank you for your service soldier. The explanation is very clear, concise, thorough, and transparent. I am new to growing I enjoyed this video. Thank you for making it.
Ty foe your comment Andy.
I appreciate it
Mark
Good morning Mark thanks for the advice bro I'm a first-time grower nervous and excited at the same time I'm going to settle down think about what I'm doing and enjoy my grow
Thinking is tge hardest and rarest thing a human being can do.
90% planning 10% execution
i kinda wish you covered the yeast and dry ice methods too. always great info/videos subbed and a thumbs up for you guys
Always great advice. Even though I have had over 5 years growing experience in rooms that yield 2 or 3 pounds up to around 30 at my largest level being reminded of the simple things sometimes is so important because it's very easy to get carried away doing to much thinking you can handle it because your experienced. Staying humble and keeping that connection aswell as truly watching and remembering all the small things that add up to being truly successful and never having to be dissapointed because although you may not always crush it if you stay true to the basics and incorporate new things one at a time once you truly no your plant and most importantly keeping a clean healthy balanced environment aswell as preventive measures most importantly in veg and very bvb early in flower you can be sure to always atleast avoid those stressful headaches that will lead to waisted time and money just from thinking ahead and remembering the basics. I might have gotten carried away there but you certainly remind me of what's important and I def still have learned a few new things aswell that I can really appreciate Mark so ty.
wow 5 years I fell the same way.. Mark I appreciate laws of maximum and minimum. nasty nizzle well put my guy clean and simple 👌💯
Not what I wanted to hear but what I needed to hear
cO2 is produced by huemans...the plant uses during the day, then switches it's input/output @night...
cO2 is the reason huemans would get tired during the night cycle...
This has been THE MOST helpful video yet.
Awesome, I’m learning, thanks 🙏🏾
I love your philosophy. Thanks for shedding knowledge and valuable input.
Another very informative video brother! Thank you
You bet
I like how you tell it like it is, great content,
I truly appreciate your wisdom and appreciate you for your service. You definitely dumbed it down in the most positive way. I'm going to focus more on the development of each of my grows and really try to dial in the basics. Thank you for this video🔥🔥🔥
I appreciate u bro
I really appreciate the work into this. It's sometimes hard to get information that is based on tried methods aka science
I appreciate that!
for those that really just wanna try the CO2 system for a laugh, or just so thay can let it go, you can try doing a yeast+sugar tank and put its output right before your intake fan. It will increase the CO2 all the time, passively. That also means at night though. So try it because it's something to learn from
Baking soda and vinegar in a milk gallon, clean, poke a few holes in the cap, give it a little shake every day and refill as needed 👍
@EliteEnemy If you are using a big tank with a distributor I wouldn't but the homemade stuff I wouldn't worry
@EliteEnemy plants breathe at night, that's why I used emphasis. During the day plants absorb light so giving them co2 at that time would not do much. Give them co2 at *night!* the only issue being that you can't much control the amount of gas dispersed after the yeast+sugar has been set in place, and it will only give off co2 as long as the yeast has sugar and protein to feed on.
Appreciate ur content
I swear it's like you're reading my mind right before you drop a video.
Thats cool, i have been noticing stuff like that lately
Really great info, wish I found you when I started growing 3 years ago. Liked, commented and subscribed 👍🏻
Thanks for the sub! I appreciate you Neil - Mark
Been growing for 14 yrs. Get 2lbs with 2 plants in 2 10 gal pots and no co2 in a 4x4x6.5’ tent. Was thinking about getting a small tanks and regulator on a time to give x amount of c02 for a few 15 min on and off here and there. But will need a minor amount abd like you said I always tell pple with growing “less is more”. Feed 1/4 recommended amount and adjust from there. Test ph, ppm, etc. some think lack of nutrients sometimes which is true but not from lack of food (well technically yea) but lack of it because of lockout. Purpling can be cool temps, cal mag issue, or pk issue. Did it all from synthetic to organic but last couple years 90% is organic powdered nutrients. Tried grow bags in the past but tent had to be open due to temperature and couldn’t tell. May try one more time or the yeast method since all led but the amount of leds I have it’s still hot. So plan on doing and input and output, co2 on timer, and get regulate and tank which imo snd if experienced like he said or should be good. Disagree with the amount of time a tank will last tho but depends on grow size and I would only use tiny amounts during veg if anything but def during weeks 2-8 of flowe
I eould recommend organishield as your co2 supplement
www.perfectgardens.com/collections/organishield/products/grow-essentails-pest-control-organishield-16-oz?_pos=1&_sid=6bc38171b&_ss=r
czcams.com/video/J_l9ll7KaqA/video.html
You can basically over clock ur plants with co2 because it always you to run temperature up to 36 degrees makes them grow like they’re on steroids 😂 but saying that if you look into sealed grows (lung rooms blah blah ) but for a quick and easy would be seal that tent up and run as much co2 as possible get the plants working and you would only really wanna be running it flowering and when lights on so it’s not to hard to incorporate with 12hr on could do just run a filter out side the tent venting out every now and then but if you got the money it’s the way forward it’s just the start that the is the hard part because you have to fine tune your run so shit don’t hit the fan but it’s the cherry on top
I have all of the co2 regulator, several tanks and a controller for the exhaust fan and co2. I only grow 4'x4' but since I have all the equipment and historically haven't had to change a tank more than twice a year why shouldn't I use co2?
What ppms do you run? Also what ppfd does your canopy average? Considering that route.
To make it easy whatever ppms of co2 you run you have to run the same ppfd so if you run 1000 ppm co2 your ppfd should be 1000 temp and humidity also needs to be higher like 85 degree Fahrenheit 65 humidity
Awesome brother TY
No problem 👍
I’ve had the same Exhale bag from last run. They last long. Also the TnB Naturals CO2 bottles for end of flower. The Exhale bag pieces can be broken up to make it last longer. Exposing more surface area. Stay Frosty Growmies ✌️🇨🇦
:) I agree they really do last a long time
Ty for confirm this
mark
Is it safe to use in your living space?
Working on upgrading my lighting to the Photontek co2 pro 1000w light that will require some supplemental co2, currently running 2 mushroom bags and the co2 level is not even close to 1000 where as I really need to get to the 1500 range to be able to push my lighting to 1500 par. My real question is… outside there is a constant breeze of roughly 400ppm of co2 and the sun puts out more than the 1500 par that cannabis maxes out at, so with that said why can I not be sure to have a minimum co2 intake of 400ppm coming into the grow room? I’m just not sure if we have been led down this co2 road due to marketing. Any insight on this would be appreciated 🤘🏻🔥🤘🏻
It's really easy to grow your own mushrooms for an unlimited amount of c02. Just get reishi or oyster mushroom spores or liquid culture. Colonize and then go to bulk in small plastic tubs. Use aquarium air pumps or leave the lids slightly cracked.
Check the tubs daily or every 2 days at the most and Check for contamination. At the first sight of contamination, take the tub out of the tent, throw away and start again.
Running an air purifier in your tent or using an air purifier as your intake will help to reduce contamination and cut down on mold spores in your grow area
For growing a single plant in a closet, like many do, a small cheap SodaStream CO2 bottle could be a cheap way. They are super cheap to refill. I built an automated CO2 system for less than 100 bucks with an Arduino and a CO2 ppm counter.
Does that have a negative effect on your living space?
No, I have proper ventilation. The little CO2 that leaks out is negligible @@fooliojones3319
@@fooliojones3319 only if you didn't use a TDS meter or(PPM meter) to notice if co2 levels get above 20 to 30,000 PPM and since your plants would only like about 1200-2000ppm they would die well before you get sick. Plus, I don't think there's a "diy" type generator out there that could make 20,000ppm without purposely trying to accumulate that much... But a meter is a useful thing to have anyway, in my opinion.
Omg exactly what i needed to hear ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤
Thanks for the video sir. I am new to grow room concept one thing that came to my mind is how to regulate ventilation along with co2 enrichment? Do i need to keep on ventilation my grow room all the time or it should be done periodically?
Hey Master Wayne,
Your video need more explanation then a yes or no so I shot a video.
It will be posted i a few days.
Mark
It will be called
What CO2 does for your Plant
@@PerfectGardensTV
Thankyou sir.
Welcome home bro, airborne!
Thanks a lot! 🤗
Is there any point putting a co2 bag next to an exhaust fan that is always going? Or is there no reason to run co2 unless it's a closed system?
Cool Content
Ty
Mark
good video 💚🙏🏻✌🏻
Ty:)
Are Open Loop grow rooms okay or do I need to seal the room?
Can anyone help me with this Q love the videos bro
i have a SF2000 in my 2x4 tent for veg
i have a SF4000 in my 5x5 for flower
do i progressively turn the power up to 100% in the 2x4 veg SF2000
through veg
then when i put them in the 5x5 tent under the SF4000 week one of flower should i start the 4000 at 50% and progress up to 100% through flower
The real q is ,is 100% power of the SF2000 the same as 50% power of the SF4000 i dont want to mess up the stretch the first 3 weeks after flipping to flower this is my 2nd indoor grow ever and first with these 2 lights
Thank you
Hey bob,
I just shot a video on your question.
I will post it in a day or 2. For now.
I wpuld not take it to 100%.
The video will give complete instructions
Mark
@@PerfectGardensTV wow thank you so much brother like i said first time using these lights and im 8 weeks out from flipping the crop
Is there a specific time to stop c02? ive been reading on a few different places to stop c02 during the last few weeks of flower because it inhibits production of ethylene which is needed for ripening. is this true or should i just run it all the way?
That's a good question!!
Have you found the answer?
@@TheEnglish-Saxon ive found some but they weren't great explanations so im still unsure lol
Just because you're a vet I sub. Iraqi Vet here bro.....
i hope you stay for the quality content tho
ty for serving brother
@@PerfectGardensTV yea I was listening to your stuff all morning and so much of it makes sense. A lot of stuff I do I really don't know why I do it. I do it just because I'm emulating somebody else and I was told that's the way that it's supposed to be done. Really not knowing the actual science behind it.
Thank you bro for serving also 🙏
If you really need more CO2, yeast and sugar in a 5 gal bucket setup buying 25 lb bags and bulk yeast is cheapest and most effective while safe. If your more handy and have APPROPRIATE gas monitoring equipment, you can use any style propane or natural gas exhaust setup. Ex. A propane water heater emits 600ppm to 5k ppm depending on burning cycle so if utilizing a portion of that free wasted exhaust properly and safely then yah, its DAMN cheap. Will it be safe? Exactly why i wont explain how to do it properly. Point is though, 1. Light 2. Water/Nutrients 3. Fresh air/proper circulation will yield 80+% what any max CO2 setup will yield and the cost/efficiency scale will not suffer. So yah he has a good point. But the safest and cheapest by far... breathing in or around your grow tent. My safety ppm meter goes from 410 to 600-1k ppm by breathing normally within several feet of it.
I have access to dry ice, do you recommend providing CO2 through dry ice
i recommend to adding co2 through Organishield. Kills multiple bird with one stone.
www.perfectgardens.com/collections/organishield/products/organishield-2-oz-trail-size?variant=46946210775338
here is a video that talks more about it
czcams.com/video/J_l9ll7KaqA/video.html
4 days ago l just found my old sodastream maker with two 400g tanks that make 60l's of drinks* per tank. My eyes popped.
I've been using it to burst about three, three second bursts around every 3hrs - into a hose through a top vent - pointing downwards ofc. I'm not even sure if it's doing anything. But I know the pressure is pretty strong (lol I blasted the plant to test it 🤦♂️🤷♂️). I'd say it's prob using 5-10g every 3sec burst. Going into day 3 of flower atm. So might as well put the tanks to use, since we don't use the machine anymore. But at the rate I use it, they'll be empty in the next 2 week's.
Did it work
@@oihepticzv
Pic says it all. That was Pineapple Kush.
I don't use CO2 anymore. Buds don't get as big, but that's okay. I focus on terps nowadays.
Ive been doing this for a long time and ive thought about c02 a lot but never used it. Genetics genetics genetics
:)
So is it a waste of time making my own co2? It seems to help but I just don't know? I'm in a 5x5 with a 5 gallon water container that I am using for co2 with some yeast
Tanks are a waste of time
Main point
@@PerfectGardensTV Yes but do you think its beneficial when making your own co2? I'm just curious
$ 50 Co2 Meter and 2 mushroom bag in a tent Test for a year!
1 GAl Fermenting jars, cheap, easy, and re-useable
Tanks>everything
anytime:)
PS thank you bro peace out
Anytime
50 dollars a month you have to be joking
LLOL or just buy a 2ltr tank off of Alliexpress for £50 with everything included and off you go plants Screw mushroom bags and them prices...
that was brutal.
Anyone have an estimate on how long a 5# tank lasts on 12/12? 1200ppm
I would recommend organishield it's not just an integrated pest management solution but it also off gasses co2 and keeps the surface of your leaf at around 700 ppm
Here is a short video to learn more how to use it and what it is
How to use:
czcams.com/video/pwCZk8UFVgY/video.html
What organishield is:
czcams.com/video/Gzp7Qh_Ps1I/video.html
Where you can purchase it
www.perfectgardens.com/search?q=Organishield
But is CO2 absolutely needed to grow big buds??
What u do in the military?
212th pj Ak
@@PerfectGardensTV hell yes brother. Thank you for your service. I was with 7th group 18E
@@sugar_leaf_organics7326 ty for your service brother
50 bucks a month LMAO 😆😂
Or....or.....sugar, water, yeast....
Love the suggestion:) ty Mark
Such misinformation in this video. Mushroom bags are trash, putting out very little co2 and uncontrollable. Thousands of dollars? More like $500 and refill once every 2 months for a real co2 setup. HIGHLY recommend tank+reg+controller. Thank me later.