Easy Fit H4 Motorcycle LED Headlight Bulbs Test
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Here is a brand new H4 replacement LED bulb for motorcycles, that truly is an easy fit, going in exactly like a normal bulb. The cutoff is normal, no blinding drivers. They are only 15 watts, have all internal heatsinks and don't require anything different about your bike as far as the install. The color is a pure white, matching the running lights on most bikes. While the low beam night performance is better than most, it still misses much right in front of the bike due to only having up-firing diodes. The high beam is lacking. IF YOU DON'T RIDE MUCH AT NIGHT, this is a great vanity upgrade for about $35/pair. Get them here: amzn.to/2JreXsK
Correction, I flip flopped the explanation of which filament was high and low.
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I installed a $26 LED offroad light (just one and not the set as is customary for adv bikes) from Harbor Freight under the Halogen light as an assist. I tabbed it into my brights and is pointing slightly down. The combination of the two is perfect and doesn't blind other drivers.
At 1st I was like “damn he is going on and on“ and wanted to see the lights. Then I realized you were dropping gem after gem. GREAT in-depth review and it’s giving me so much knowledge in finding the better bulb to fit my riding needs. Thanks!
This review was very helpful I thank you for taking the time to explain as thoroughly as you have. I think me myself I'm going to keep the stock halogens as well
What Bryant says, very helpful, thanks
One useful application of this bulb is to free up wattage from the bikes charging system to allow battery charging when using heated grips and gps etc. Some bikes have very marginal spare wattage, and batteries will charge slower in winter when using accessories especially on short trips. If you have twin headlights it frees up around 100w of electricity which would go to charging battery.
Thank you. I won't bother changing now. Old bike single headlight and a dark road outside. But have noticed led light up the car in front better and appear brighter to look at. So probably safer in town
TWO, 1st, thanks for the tip on phone cam exposure lock. I was not aware of that feature on my phone without having to dive deeper. 2nd, with background in Electrical Engineering I'm surprised some company hasn't come out with a 360 COB design to replicate standard filament output since the reflectors are such a huge part of lighting design. This has the potential to solve all the LED designs of filament outputs patterns. Cheers on the comprehensive review!
They did, and there are quite a number of them. Problem is - Bryan for some reason goes for cheapest solutions. Proper LED replacements for reflectors that are not designed for them require specific tech to work. Tech like extremely thin base, no more than a millimeter thick, so that distance between LEDs is identical to the width of a filament. Leds also need to be about a millimeter wide for the same reason. It needs specific reflectors on the bulb to direct light into blind spots. It needs to be powerful and efficient enough so as not to burn this rather delicate construction. Basically, if you are looking at something that is sub $100 a pair, you are better off with normal bulbs. Between 100 and 200 your mileage may vary in terms of quality of lighting, but they will provide the WOW factor to your bike from a bystander point of view and be on par with halogens in terms of brightness at the very least. Proper ones are $200+. Examples:
www.headlightrevolution.com/headlight-revolution-perfectfit-led-headlights-h4-bulbs-PF1.H4_2?quantity=1
www.headlightrevolution.com/h4-2stroke-led-bulbs?quantity=1
www.headlightrevolution.com/H4-9003-Ultra-2.0_2?quantity=1
The latter has specifically designed for automotive use LEDs, is shockingly bright, and mirrors halogen light spread almost perfectly. Just make sure your bulbs and lights are properly aligned because this is easily a quadruple light output of a standard FJR1300 bulb and you would not want it hitting incoming traffic.
@@iskinmind7020 Thanks for info.
I'll second the Sylvania SilverStar bulbs. I've had the Ultra units in my FJR for a little over two year and they are pretty freaking neat. :)
I tried the silverstars years ago in my acura rsx and they started melting the rubber boot and back of the housing. I wonder if this has been fixed or if anyone has had those issues in either a bike or a car.
Very informative and backs up my thoughts on LED bulbs….they do not throw more light on the ground.
Thank you for the video! But I believe you've got the halogen filaments mixed up. There are indeed two of them.
However: the "open" one (without a shroud underneath it) is the high beam. It's designed to throw light all around the reflector bucket. This light is reflected forwards - both upwards and downwards - so that you'll light up both up and down the road ahead.
The filament with a shroud under it is the low beam. It's designed to only throw light upwards into the reflector bucket. The light gets REFLECTED downwards toward the road surface. This means you won't be blinding oncoming traffic.
absolutely correct, the filaments are the other way round, if the night shots were showing a sign on the led side (left), the halogen would also not shine as bright, a great presentation but not toally correct, sorry fella.
I bought these and love them on my Concours C14. I agree the high-beam isn't much brighter, but the low beam is so good.
what brand are they . I did not see they them on the posted sight
I upgraded to STEDI LED H4 copperheads, which are CANBUS compatible and have braided heatsinks. Went from 850 to 1760 lumens per lamp and to 5700K color temp.
Lighting is way better, but just need to fine tune their seating to minimize some minor artifacts and sharpen the cut-offs.
It is the best video I have seen about led lighting. Wat I would want to see is you testing another kind of led lights, for example, those that had leds in both sides, or even, more than two sides. And at least different brands. I hope you do this someday.
But for now, I ll try to find good quality halogen bulbs
I’ve done several over the years and more vids. None work right.
@@TwoWheelObsession thanks for your answer. I was researching about LED stop lights. For what I have seen in OSRAM and Philips products so far, those lights produce less lumens. So, I don't want that. I wanted something more bright that at the same time had lower Watts for my bike.
Its sad, but retrofitting LED lights doesn't seem to work.
That was very informative. I’ll stay with my halogens. My 03 Honda VFR800 has 4 bulbs . 2 low and 2 hi I ride at night all the time and the field of light is more important than the color to me.
Wise choice. 2TU.
Thanks for a honest and knowledgeable review of these bulbs. As a day rider your assessment is accurate and fair. My ZX14r will likely be getting a set.
You should also discuss the light reflector design of that specific model as some bikes respond much better to LEDs than others.
Cool lightning at 13:55😎😎. Great video btw👍👍👍
Thank you sir
You could try some led that are made for “projector headlamps stetting” cause led have the same issue you explained with standard vs projector. The ones made for projectors have a clear casing all around instead of the standard flat bottom and leds on top
Top man I’ve had to change my sons LED light because he could not see the road in front of him correctly at night change to halogen works much better cheers for this advice ! 🤘🏻💯
The only brand I’ve found to work better than incandescent, is GTR Lighting. They run $240 a pair for H4 but they do work.
Cheers mate,, my LED light is the same at night.
I put one of these in my old 1991 Nighthawk 750 and the newer boxed ones are so stupid bright it's insane.
Questions asked questions answered. Thanks you’re the best!
Good and fair...I tell you now. The 2018 FJRes LED's are the best lights ever. Very close and equal to my sedans with LED lights. I actually added running lights to my bike and rarely use it due to the superiority of the factory light. Ridden in dark roads and thunderstorms, I have tested the lights and they pass.
Yep. Any system designed around them from the start is the very best.
Great vid as usual. Very informative. Thanks for the info.
Great and much appreciated video. Thank you, from a 2015 FJR owner.
For the way hi and low beams are together on H4 bulbs I think is absolutely imposible to reproduce with led
Would be nice if some of the better aftermarket companies started making retrofit reflector housings specifically designed for LEDs. I personally use Phillips Race Visions on my bike, a bit brighter than the silverstars and about as white as a halogen can get without looking blue. They work great at night, I suspect like the silverstars they won't last.
It’ll probably be useful for city night riding. The street lights will give you most of lightning and these will add to the look for the bike.
Thank you for the video. Good to know the factors to consider when updating LED bulbs. Generally speaking, just going to keep my ugly yellow bulbs
Nice comprehensive review, well done!
Side note, the only thing I would recommend is repeating this test with the bike in the exact same position with the bulbs reversed to get a completely accurate review. Now I don't know on your bike, and because mine is an older CBX550F and has a single headlight, if the angle of the light and reflectors are slightly different on each side. I know on cars in North America, the right side is designed to shoot light farther and in a more spread out beam toward the right side of the car. This is to light up the road side and give you a better chance of seeing something on the side, or an animal coming out of the tree line at a greater distance. The left side is generally more focused in front of the car you give you good light, but to not completely blind on coming traffic. I don't know if they do that on bikes with twin lights or not, but it i would be worth repeating the experiment a second time real quick with them reversed just to see.
That is not the case with the fjr, the test is accurate.
@@TwoWheelObsession - Ahh, alright then.
I really think it's a basis of how you aim. The downfall is you can't adjust each light like a car which can help. I currently use silver stars and my issue is being I say I run aux lights to maximize my depth and foreground. I use 45° spread on my aux to maximize my areas I can't see and they adjust individually to help aid the blindspots. Open reflection housing is much better to be seen than projector headlights that are more effective in isolation of light area. So in my mind, you like the spread of light in reflection but, led doesn't. You get brighter light on reflection but more isolated, so to combat that I use aux led lights that are smaller and still effective in seeing blind spots. Yet still being led I can see brighter of all areas.I can point them not to blind drivers. Also if I chose LEDs like you have. Then much more brighter combined and the aux lights are not blinding when positioned correctly.
Great analysis. I would be interested in the LED manufacturer's feedback to your review, if any.
They acknowledged the problems, offered another model to test. Unfortunately they were just the old design I have already done.
If i didn't already have LED lights in my 2019 MT-09, i'd love this upgrade. I would just keep my original bulbs at hand should i choose to ride at night for some reason. (I never ride in the dark. Too high risk factor)
Anyone have any updates on LED bulbs? I have a 14 with one headlight out so going to replace both of them. I was thinking either LEDs if there are some good ones out there or just stock H4 lights and mount aux LED lights to give a different color and two extra lights for visibility by the cages wanting to turn left in front of me.
Thank you this video was very informative. I was undecided on which lights to go with, with your help definitely going halogen.
As you are relatively clued up my friend any way you can get a link for some 2004 honda cbr1000rr haha. I want to get the right ones first time😁.
Very informative lighthearted and spot on test and report.
Night eye are the best for led in my opinion
On the test did you take into account that the housing on the left and right of the light should be different. I.e. because you didnt swap out the bulbs for each reflector housing it's hard to tell what each one is suppossed to do. For example a rhd car would have a left light that is angled higher and right light angled lower and vice versa for lhd so not to blind oncoming drivers but illuminate pedestrians. I do agree though the lower half isnt as good.
Looks good. Good info. Hope to see ride and chat videos. Halogen certainly more light.
You should compare with 2 led bulbs vs halogen, because maybe each sides maybe point do different heights.
Thanks anyway!
Just saw your video (s), very helpful indeed. I have a question about some lights I just bought for my bike. It requires H7 and H4, the H4 fit perfectly but the H7 did not, specifically I couldn't plug it in because the prong space is narrower. I can't find anywhere a solution.
Something I feel you forgot to mention, which I thought you were when you began to speak about day riding, is the road presence and safety aspect. LED bulds are great at catching motorists attention during day light hours, especially if you're running two lights parallel to one another (running two lights across a centre line over a single centre or offset improves the ability to judge the distance and speed of a vehicle approaching you).
Apart from that however great review. I noticed someone below me mentioned the Yamaha Tracer 900GT. Having been provided one by my local dealer as a loan bike, for 48 hours this past weekend whilst my '17 09 was in for it's service (24.5k miles from new :D) I can say it's a fantastic bike (besides the windshield). Do you not have a local dealership you could strike up a deal with which will allow you to regularly test bikes?
Lol that’s called blinding drivers. No direct light should come from the source. Bad designs don’t mask it or place the cutoff too high.
Very useful and objective review. A little wordy but still very positive.
So happy I bought a 2016 FJR :D
Too bad. Still not quite ready for prime time.
I ride at night - not a lot, but enough. And I don't need to sweat power management so the reduced power consumption really doesn't matter.
Try ajusting the headlight up a little !
I got mine for $10.00 !
I’m glad I didn’t take mushrooms this morning, your shirt is doing some 3D funky shit lol. Oh ya thanks for the review and explanation. I learn a lot from ya. But I don’t mind halogen bulbs, I’ve tried switching from xenon to silver stars to led’s and I always go back to stock lights.
Ha ha!!! I didn't notice that until you mentioned it!
Great review, are we ever gonna get some LCD's that'll work?
Isn't her the new generation of the LED bulbs have led chips in all 4 sides aiming at 360 coverage? Would these work fine better with the reflectors assuming that different leds are activated for low & high beams?
I got my hopes up for a minute there. Like you, I ride an FJR, and I do ride a lot at night. I wonder why they can't put low beam diodes on both sides of the bulb to balance that out the way it's supposed to be, and give the light closer to the front end of the bike. Perhaps a geometry thing or the thickness of the bulb itself, I have no idea. Any thoughts on that?
I know right? Dude it's not hard. Copy the standard design - the first one to do that wins! Boggles my mind.
You don't need light on the road. Having the light at the immediate front is actually risky. You will looking at objects at the immediate front, that always unavoidable. You will be literally locking your eyes to your crash. Lights should always help at at least 50 mts (150 fts in your crazy system)
Screen time for the fjr 🤘
Hope your doing to be doing some test ride reviews in the near future?
Would like your opinion on the Yamaha Tracer gt 900.
Yamaha no longer allows cameras. No test from me for it.
Amazing video - many thanks for doing the experiment :)
Great review.
I ride way too many miles to get these but to the other point.... lord knows weve all dpent way more than $35 buck for cosmetic/vanity on our bikes
Just love your videos , hav u tryed the new philips LED's Philips X-treme Ultinon H4 LED gen II +250% , they are exspensive but mnaby just maby they are as good as they promise
advocating less safe lights for better looks... real smart...
I was thinking of changing from halogen to LED and after watching this video have decided to leave the halogen in place
Haha wow i justtttt installed the Cyclopse 10.0 LED made for the 2016 KTM SDR😁😎👍 havnt got to try it out yet. Seems to have good pattern and hotspot
I've tested those designs as well - that's what i was talking about with the huge outboard box. And you'll find the same lackluster pattern. It's old tech.
@@TwoWheelObsession ill see how it does with my reflector. As you know its got LED on both sides(360 degrees of light) with a upper sheild towards the front. Its using 4 Cree XHP which are capable of more then 2500 lumens each. Uses 2 on low beam(one on each side) and all 4 on high beam. Bulb is perfectly centered up and down so the kit for my bike looks like its going to do well. Ill update after i get to use it. No modification to boot or bike since the kit was made for my bike specifically.
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And without the accurate A/B testing like I showed...you'll never know.
@@TwoWheelObsession ive got enough memory and footage of my night rides to know the difference between the bulbs. Ill know if its worse or more light. Nothing to hide or care if its worse ill sell it no biggie just time to test next night ride i get😉
What suspension setting do you usually use when you are solo riding? Thank you.
The LED did not look like they were aligned properly. I like the high beams to be high.
Did you find any other ones that are better or still using stock H4?
I've been hesitant to get LED bulbs for my Super Tenere. Unlike the FRJ1300 (and some others) there aren't convenient remote adjusters for the beam. I have to struggle with a small ratchet and it's always adjust, road test and repeat. Even when I think I have them set where I'm not blinding incoming traffic, yet high enough to be safe riding at night...I still get flashed a lot. Sounds like these LEDs might be worth a try, though.
This is a good product, but we have an upgraded version of it
Philips X Treme vision plus is the way to go.
how many Watts? i ride a '93 ST1100 with very poor lighting AND weak alternator... :(
i assume replacing the tail lightbuld will help a bit
Anyone got a part number for the fjr1300(2015) SilverStar Bulbs?
Any of the H4
Thanks very informative.
Have you ridden the 2016 at night? I’m guessing not because I would expect you to be impressed enough to sell that 2015 and buy a 16 or newer.
#1 it's a '14, not '15. #2 yes and while a definite improvement, not enough to make me spend money. Maybe next gen, if they add a lot more too.
I'd say it could depend if you're driving in the city or the country. Most in town driving you don't use brights. Rolling hills? No bueno.
Wasn't fair atall man. Things were closer to the halogen side. Go on a long straight ride with the same sh!@ on both sides 👌
ummm that is some very good info
Do you still do motorcycle reviews?
When possible
Oh man. You want people breathing down your neck on TWO channel too? Lmfao take it easy Bryan, manufacturers of LED bulbs will have you in their crosshairs.
Personally? Love it. Good job
Huh?
I interpreted this video as you implying basically to not waste money on LED bulbs. I took it as you taking a shot at it. Which I'm all for. You did a great job exposing a common myth.
Not at all. Just educating everyone why designs will work or not.
Looks like it will be dangerous, manufacturers will need to design for LED’s