@@eda7875 I didn't say it did lol, just sooting down most of the size argument. And the barista pro is basically the Bambino plus with a grinder, and it's supposed to be a slightly better grinder than the express.
@@3litepker no, that doesn't work, but i usually try to do as many things as possible. While the barista express turns on, coffee is grinding and I am pouring milk. Then the espresso pulls. Then while I let a shot of water pass for cleaning and the steam build up, i wash the portafilter and start another grinding for another coffee. While the grinding is not even done i start steaming the milk then start the 2nd espresso while adding milk to the first. Then start another cleaning cycle while adding milk. Then start the steaming wand again while cleaning portafilter. Then everything is just what s left. It is a nice and relaxing, not too long workflow
The Bambino’s are limited to dark espresso roast only due to water temperature being fixed. The Barista Express can handle much lighter roasts. Just something to consider.
For light roast espresso that tastes good on a budget. Get a wacaco picopresso. There is no better value for money tool in my setup for getting decent extraction from light roasts. It’s tiny so it’s quick to bring the whole thing up to temp. Let it hang out in your kettle (above the water line) with the lid off as it boils. That and it’s very portable. It also gives you a great deal of control over water flow which the brevilles do not since it’s hand cranked. It’s actually a very capable machine. I sold my barista express because the only thing it did better for me than my picopresso was froth milk and I don’t drink milky drinks anymore. It’s not quite a professional grade tool and there is no pressure gauge, but at the entry level, it’s a much more capable one and the results are consistently good once you get a feel for how to operate it.
Also, from personal multi - month hands on experience with both ThermoJet and Thermoblock Machines from Breville/Sage - the Thermoblocks gave me considerably balanced and sweeter results with straight Espresso. (Shots prepared with the same grinder) Thermoblock = Express, ThermoJet = Bambino, Pro, Touch That said - for all milk drinkers, being able to have a milk beverage ready and a clean machine afterwards just two minutes after you turned it on is hella impressive and goes a long way into sticking with espresso as a thing in the long run. Small pet peeve with the "old" Express - 2 our of 100 shots had severe channeling that was not caused by the user, but by the water distribution over the shower screen being one sided. Puck showed deep indentation exactly where it lines up with the water inlet behind the screen. Wasn't a consistent problem, but a problematic inconsistency in those few cases.
I had both the braista express is a better package. bigger water tank, bigger drip tray, you dont have to hold it while putting on the portafilter, bigger area for warming up the cups, its got magnetic holder for the tamper which is tucked in the machine and many more. its all in one package. mine still going strong after years also I had the bambino for 3days and took it back to the store, its a huge downgrade and got weacker pump and also no pressure gauge. save the money and get the breville barista express, this is actual user saying that after 4years of using it everyday for over 10k shots of esspreso.
I will make a side note - faster frothing doesn’t always mean better for those that are learning. Slower frothing can sometimes be a benefit for those who are learning how to create a proper microfoam
Came here to say this! We have a Breville barista pro and it’s not terribly fast but the slowness helps me make the milk the right texture without scorching it, since I am a novice!
exactly this, I started with an old saeco which couldn't do proper steam, now we have a rancilio silvia and it kicks ass. It's great, but when your milk either doesn't spin or is burning hot in 6 seconds the learning curve is STEEP steep
I 100% agree. My Bambino isn't a Plus because I can only use plant-based milk, and I've gotten really good at finessing a nice foam with just the Bambino. My Bambino is ready to go when I am and the frother gets the contents of my pitcher hot SO fast! I do all the maintenance that is suggested because I want it to last a long time. My Bambino takes up very little space in my minuscule kitchen, and I absolutely love it! 🧡☕️🍁
The express is great, do not know where you got 37 seconds. Maybe ten seconds max, larger water reservoir, and have no complaints on grinder. Having it all in one is much more convenient. I don’t make lattes that much but do wish it had the bambino one.
I use the Express and on average it takes it roughly 15-20 seconds to heat up. On top of all, grinding and puck prep easily take about a minute, so I don't see how that is a problem. I can get better swirl for my latte using a single hole steam wand, so to me the total time for heating up the milk is not so vital. I like having the grinder integrated, as I don't have space for a coffee machine and a separate grinder on my kitchen counter at the moment.
Exactly LOL even if it took a minute it’s a non problem… you can wake up, turn on your machine, go wash your face and come back ready to pull a shot lol. My express takes 20 seconds max and even then you’re gonna wanna run it under hot water, weigh out your beans, and prep everything’s anyways. You can of course get a nicer grinder but the convenience of everything in one machine is nice. The whole unit of course uses one plug and for us living in apartments with minimal space the express actually saves more room for me than a bambino
I absolutely agree with your conclusion, but the steaming really has nothing to do with how many holes the steam tip has! 😅 The Bambino Plus simply has better, more powerful, more modern steaming tech. Put a four hole tip on the Barista Express and the steaming power will probably decrease.
Personal opinion is separate grinder is important. Imagine a broken grinder you don't know how to repair yourself; 1. you ship the entire thing and now you got nothing; 2. it can't be fixed - do you throw it out or buy a separate grinder to take up even more space? Separate tools allow more flexibility.
I bought one about 4 years ago, I use it about 3x a day on average, the steam wand about once a day. It has been faultless. The automatic steaming does such a good job too.
I got a barista express for christmas and im loving every minute of using it. The time to heat up isnt so bad because by the time its done grinding a perfect amount of coffee at the correct grind, taking most of the guess work out, it's already to temprature. The steam wand is kinda annoying to use though and is hard to properly clean imo.
Bambino plus and barista pro have problem with proper temperature. Before you want to make an espresso some empty shots are required to heatup the machine and portafilter. The reult time is similar to express but temperature is usually unstable.
I have a bambino and I don't recommend it because the water extraction out of the portafilter on the bambino don't reach 90 degrees. it's good entry level for quick and go
I have the barista express and I do have to say that those 37 seconds to turn on are a little annoying. It always just takes forever. On the other hand, until my grounds are prepared, it’s also done
As someone who used to sell these machiens I 100% agree... It was also hard explaining to people if you want a machine that automatically makes coffee for you with automatic grinding, frothing, etc its gonna cost you a bit (as much as $1000 AUD and over). Just save the money and learn how do a few extra steps manually/with another machine. I love brevellie as a brand as well so I always recommened their machines. But, take that all with a grain of salt cause I dont even drink coffee 😂 I have tea instead (so glad i do it seems so much cheaper)
The express wastes a lot of water, filling the reservoir at the bottom even if you turn it on but don’t brew anything. The bambino doesn’t. So while the tank and reservoir are smaller on the bambino, I find that the tray underneath evaporates off in dry weather faster than it fills, meaning less mold and less emptying and less cleaning.
The exception is when you have a partner who likes the convenience of the barista express with the easy grinding straight into the portafilter and making pretty decent coffee or cappucino in a few seconds. The coffee nerd in the household can buy a great grinder down the line.
I could have used this video 8 years ago. But as somebody that owns the barista express, I completely agree. The grinder on the barista Express is incredibly inconsistent. Makes it damn near impossible to whole consistent shots.
The express is a better all in one solution I think. Otherwise you have so many different appliances on your bench. A good grinder is quite tall and wide, not to mention different accessories like tamper etc. if you buy the express you’ll make a coffee right after plugging it in.
Honestly, THE biggest advantage with the Bambino is the fact that you can choose your own grinder. Many people think the built in grinder is a great pro in the Barista Express (and it may be for the entry level folks) but it quickly becomes an Achilles heel when you’re trying to level up. You can keep the bambino but keep switching to better grinders.
Thank you for this video, so many videos about espresso makers on yt devolve into "Yeah anything under 500 is inconsistent, bad temp, will leave it acrid and sour ect ect" Man I can't afford to drop $700 on a Gaggia, and the snobs write off anything under as a over glorified coffee machine
Correct to say don't get the one with integrated grinder. But also consider the Duo Temp Pro! Slightly bigger than the Bambino, not as fancy. But it's a simple machine with very little to go wrong (too many electric gadgets on the Bambino). The DTP is an absolute workhorse! A reliable powerhouse for pulling shots of espresso. I've had one for 8 years. Not always been the best with maintenance, yet that thing is still going strong. Used most days for multiple shots.
I have the express and it works great, I grind the coffee while it heats up so that extra few seconds doesn’t really matter. The top is a mug warmer and. Also the reservoir and drip tray are both a good size. I make a latte every morning.
I have the Sage Bambino (not plus) and the Sage Dose Control Pro. They’re a fantastic combination. Fast and easy to use, easy to dial in and have never made a bad espresso! Highly recommend! 👌
I prefer to have everything on the same machine because my space is limited and one machine is less space to use than 2 even though they are smaller individually. Also easier to clean just one machine and the surrounders. the steam header is easily replaceable and the extra time amount is not that much
You’ll spend the difference on a grinder, that will take up more space. And the biggest issue for me is the bambino water tank is basically 2 cups and your refilling the tank which gets really annoying
Why would you want a steamer that makes the jug contents hot *extra fast*? Time is your biggest enemy when you want to create fine microfoam before your milk boils and tastes like cooked egg.
Got my barista express for £200 from a neighbour because she couldn’t workout how to work it. Turns out she was brewing coffee with the silicone back wash thing in the portafilter. It worked perfectly and was brand new. Always recommend having a poke around for local deals
Uhm from where I'm from that sounds like you ripped her off if you didn't tell her the problem with how she operates it but if she's been made aware and still wants to dispose of the machine then everybody wins.
@@bon3wax718 If neighbor is willing to buy like a $1000 machine and basically throw it out rather than bother figuring out why it won't work (or contacting the company) then she probably has money to burn.
@@bon3wax718 just wanna set this straight. She was selling it for £200. I didn’t make her put that price on it. She just couldn’t work it. By “neighbour” I mean someone in my neighbourhood a few doors or so down. You cannot honestly expect me to get that machine, take it home, dismantle it, discover she wasn’t working it correctly, then walk all the way back with it and ask for my £200 back because she can’t work the damn machine? Get a grip and go touch grass.
I was going to get the bambino but the barista express goes on sale frequently for the same price as the bambino plus. And it does come with a usable grinder
I tried the bambino and liked it, but it is not heavy enough when you put the portafilter in to lock it without the ENTIRE machine moving. I like the express as it is more sturdy. Kinda odd issue [I know], but I wanted to add this info.
Yeah when I was buying I was looking at the gaggia and the Bambino and settled on the gaggia purely on built quality and longevity, even though the Bambino is so feature rich and easy to use compared to gaggia. Plus I build computers and other electronics and hardware on occasion so I figured I can do the gaggiuino mod to it when I have the spare time and cash
If you actually weigh your shots, don’t get the bambino as it only has a button for 1 or 2 shots. Barista Express allows you to program each time and have full control over when the shot finishes. That means you can actually consistently dial in your espresso shots rather than hoping the button gets you to your correct weight.
When compared on these variables yes, when compared om other variables maybe yes or no. Tbf, under a minute warmuptime is negligable when you consider grinding, preparing grounds, tamping and possibly filling your milk pitcher beforehand. Every choice has pro's and cons. Work them out farefully before making a choice. But this entire debate could've ended at grinder flexibility and or performance. But, amazing deals can be had with second hand options skewing the comparison.
They are amazing entry-level machines for people looking to drink espresso daily or have a home barista hobby. This is not entry-level friendly for people who just want espresso and want an upgrade from Starbucks espresso or to make their own lattes, which isn't hard to do as their coffee is burnt acidic trash. You can get a good espresso machine for the general populace for 160$ on a sale. not 300$ which most people would scoff at you for telling them is entry level.
I can confirm this. I have the barista express but after staying with my friend who has the bambino plus and a quality grinder, the bambino plus has way less fuss and super easy simple and delicious. Better machine
if you would have done the comparison between the Bambino and the Barista Express or between the Bambino Plus and the Barista pro it would be more adequate
The other thing is if the grinder breaks in the express you have a problem. With the Bambino you just buy another grinder. I have the breville infuser which i absolutely love.
Hes honestly the best coffee content creatorout there. Ive always wanted to have a coffee setup but never had the joney so i was wondering if you could send me something
I looked at doing this but my partner was adamant she wanted the Express. To be honest, my morning espresso and afternoon cappuccino are phenomenal once I dialed it in.
I'd just get the Breville dual boiler and then you are set with a very solid and well-serviced espresso machine and then grow into better grinders as you fall deeper into the rabbit hole.
@@Ashhong1 I think it is at least that, but....with 2 boilers it can do a lot more. The Bambino is an excellent machine, but I know if I had bought that...I would soon want the functionality of the dual boiler.....but it is more expensive and takes up more space!
The Bambino doesn't have a gauge, and the pressurized portafilter is such a pain in the ass to clean. The express grinder is decent enough for most. The steamer is better tho
express is the best entry level mashine. When you are the beginner you dont know exactly what do you need and express is the mashine to start your journey. few years latter you know exactly what grinder and what machine to upgrade after express
I respect what Saeco or Breville does, but not for me. I would go with a lelit mara x or rancillio Silva or even a profitec who could be almost under 1000 box when you get a deal. The longevity and the reliability is worth more and tbh there nothing complex in coffee making .
Absolutely! We actually got the express as wedding present! Not complaining. But if I were to spend my own money I'd go for Bambino and separate grinder. The only thing I would query is the basket. Am I right in thinking the Bambino only comes with a pressurised basket?
The bambino is also a more kitchen friendly size compared to the express
By the time you sit a decent grinder next to it it's about the same size.
@@wildairsoft1yeah but the express doesnt have a decent grinder lol
@@eda7875 I didn't say it did lol, just sooting down most of the size argument. And the barista pro is basically the Bambino plus with a grinder, and it's supposed to be a slightly better grinder than the express.
@@wildairsoft1 theyre all bad grinders unless making dark roast, blends, and/or milk drinks only. Then theyre fine.
Yep, and you can technically even pair it with a good hand grinder and get better results for less than the express
While the Barista Express starts heating up for 37 seconds, you can start grind coffee and by the time your done it will already be heated up
Are you going to try and tell me that you also pull a shot whilst you’re steaming the milk?
@@3litepker whilst?
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@@3litepker no, that doesn't work, but i usually try to do as many things as possible. While the barista express turns on, coffee is grinding and I am pouring milk. Then the espresso pulls. Then while I let a shot of water pass for cleaning and the steam build up, i wash the portafilter and start another grinding for another coffee. While the grinding is not even done i start steaming the milk then start the 2nd espresso while adding milk to the first. Then start another cleaning cycle while adding milk. Then start the steaming wand again while cleaning portafilter. Then everything is just what s left. It is a nice and relaxing, not too long workflow
The Bambino’s are limited to dark espresso roast only due to water temperature being fixed. The Barista Express can handle much lighter roasts. Just something to consider.
For light roast espresso that tastes good on a budget. Get a wacaco picopresso. There is no better value for money tool in my setup for getting decent extraction from light roasts. It’s tiny so it’s quick to bring the whole thing up to temp. Let it hang out in your kettle (above the water line) with the lid off as it boils. That and it’s very portable. It also gives you a great deal of control over water flow which the brevilles do not since it’s hand cranked. It’s actually a very capable machine. I sold my barista express because the only thing it did better for me than my picopresso was froth milk and I don’t drink milky drinks anymore. It’s not quite a professional grade tool and there is no pressure gauge, but at the entry level, it’s a much more capable one and the results are consistently good once you get a feel for how to operate it.
Exactly
Indeed
Also, from personal multi - month hands on experience with both ThermoJet and Thermoblock Machines from Breville/Sage - the Thermoblocks gave me considerably balanced and sweeter results with straight Espresso. (Shots prepared with the same grinder)
Thermoblock = Express, ThermoJet = Bambino, Pro, Touch
That said - for all milk drinkers, being able to have a milk beverage ready and a clean machine afterwards just two minutes after you turned it on is hella impressive and goes a long way into sticking with espresso as a thing in the long run.
Small pet peeve with the "old" Express - 2 our of 100 shots had severe channeling that was not caused by the user, but by the water distribution over the shower screen being one sided. Puck showed deep indentation exactly where it lines up with the water inlet behind the screen.
Wasn't a consistent problem, but a problematic inconsistency in those few cases.
In any case - a correctly fitting tamper is a must! No 20$ better spent with any Sage/Breville Machine, it really rounds everything off.
I wake up. Turn on the barista express. Go take my morning piss. Come back and it’s ready.
exactly. The 30 seconds doesn't matter.
I had both the braista express is a better package. bigger water tank, bigger drip tray, you dont have to hold it while putting on the portafilter, bigger area for warming up the cups, its got magnetic holder for the tamper which is tucked in the machine and many more. its all in one package. mine still going strong after years also I had the bambino for 3days and took it back to the store, its a huge downgrade and got weacker pump and also no pressure gauge. save the money and get the breville barista express, this is actual user saying that after 4years of using it everyday for over 10k shots of esspreso.
I use mine on a coffee van and make 200 cups a day no problem
Thank you for your comment because I was debating if I should spend $600 for the Express compared to the cheaper models.
I will make a side note - faster frothing doesn’t always mean better for those that are learning. Slower frothing can sometimes be a benefit for those who are learning how to create a proper microfoam
Came here to say this! We have a Breville barista pro and it’s not terribly fast but the slowness helps me make the milk the right texture without scorching it, since I am a novice!
It’s not like it steams really fast the wand is just better and that is in every way.
exactly this, I started with an old saeco which couldn't do proper steam, now we have a rancilio silvia and it kicks ass. It's great, but when your milk either doesn't spin or is burning hot in 6 seconds the learning curve is STEEP steep
You can also change that steam tip if ever, so that's a moot point from OP... 🤷🏻♂️
Bambino plus automaticly froths perfectly.
I 100% agree. My Bambino isn't a Plus because I can only use plant-based milk, and I've gotten really good at finessing a nice foam with just the Bambino. My Bambino is ready to go when I am and the frother gets the contents of my pitcher hot SO fast! I do all the maintenance that is suggested because I want it to last a long time. My Bambino takes up very little space in my minuscule kitchen, and I absolutely love it! 🧡☕️🍁
@@SarabjeetSanghera Sure.
Spending the money you save on a new grinder....you know how much grinders cost, right?
I think the point is that you can buy a grinder for $200 to $300 that is much better than the one built into the Express
@@shanelorente true, the built in grinder is a dog, and the main reason i returned the machine. freestanding low end grinder much better.
Either way you have extra money to spend
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The express is great, do not know where you got 37 seconds. Maybe ten seconds max, larger water reservoir, and have no complaints on grinder. Having it all in one is much more convenient.
I don’t make lattes that much but do wish it had the bambino one.
Yeah lol mine literally takes 3 seconds to turn on.
which even IF it was that long.... you've still got to grind, tamp, plonk it under the brew head & get a cup ready so it's a non issue lol
I use the Express and on average it takes it roughly 15-20 seconds to heat up. On top of all, grinding and puck prep easily take about a minute, so I don't see how that is a problem.
I can get better swirl for my latte using a single hole steam wand, so to me the total time for heating up the milk is not so vital.
I like having the grinder integrated, as I don't have space for a coffee machine and a separate grinder on my kitchen counter at the moment.
Exactly LOL even if it took a minute it’s a non problem… you can wake up, turn on your machine, go wash your face and come back ready to pull a shot lol. My express takes 20 seconds max and even then you’re gonna wanna run it under hot water, weigh out your beans, and prep everything’s anyways. You can of course get a nicer grinder but the convenience of everything in one machine is nice. The whole unit of course uses one plug and for us living in apartments with minimal space the express actually saves more room for me than a bambino
I absolutely agree with your conclusion, but the steaming really has nothing to do with how many holes the steam tip has! 😅
The Bambino Plus simply has better, more powerful, more modern steaming tech. Put a four hole tip on the Barista Express and the steaming power will probably decrease.
You can adjust the temperature on the barista Express however. Whereas the Bambino will struggle with lighter roasts.
True, can bump it up to 204 F where as the bambino is locked to 200 F
Personal opinion is separate grinder is important. Imagine a broken grinder you don't know how to repair yourself; 1. you ship the entire thing and now you got nothing; 2. it can't be fixed - do you throw it out or buy a separate grinder to take up even more space? Separate tools allow more flexibility.
I bought one about 4 years ago, I use it about 3x a day on average, the steam wand about once a day. It has been faultless. The automatic steaming does such a good job too.
I got a barista express for christmas and im loving every minute of using it. The time to heat up isnt so bad because by the time its done grinding a perfect amount of coffee at the correct grind, taking most of the guess work out, it's already to temprature. The steam wand is kinda annoying to use though and is hard to properly clean imo.
Bambino plus and barista pro have problem with proper temperature. Before you want to make an espresso some empty shots are required to heatup the machine and portafilter. The reult time is similar to express but temperature is usually unstable.
Love my bambino plus, not to mention it doesn’t have a terrible grinder attached to it.
Is no-one going to point out the ridiculous clickbait?
My espresso machine takes 30min to heat up… 37sec beats that by a bit.
I have a bambino and I don't recommend it because the water extraction out of the portafilter on the bambino don't reach 90 degrees. it's good entry level for quick and go
Well, manual recommends to use it once without coffee to warm portafilter.
I have the barista express and I do have to say that those 37 seconds to turn on are a little annoying. It always just takes forever. On the other hand, until my grounds are prepared, it’s also done
Great advice. You get the freedom to pick a grinder you like too
As someone who used to sell these machiens I 100% agree... It was also hard explaining to people if you want a machine that automatically makes coffee for you with automatic grinding, frothing, etc its gonna cost you a bit (as much as $1000 AUD and over). Just save the money and learn how do a few extra steps manually/with another machine. I love brevellie as a brand as well so I always recommened their machines. But, take that all with a grain of salt cause I dont even drink coffee 😂 I have tea instead (so glad i do it seems so much cheaper)
Yep, I did exactly just that. Saved so much money and the Bambino Plus is very fast to make a cup. Blessings...
I've been using the one you said to not buy for 2 years now and it's really good cuz it gives you high pressure while brewing your coffee
I've had mind 8 years nary a hiccup. At least two doubles every day. Sometimes a lot more.
Ideal espresso is brewed at like 9 bars...
@@MrJayVFXwhich is high pressure. That's 9 times atmospheric pressure
I agree except the pressure gauge is really nice to have feed back on
True, but you can always use a bottomless portafilter and a scale to get the same effect
Ye after getting the barista Express and then looking more at the Bambino I wish I had gotten the Bambino and a better grinder
I have the barista express and I regret not getting a better grinder and cheaper machine
that 2 in 1 with grinder WIN!
The express wastes a lot of water, filling the reservoir at the bottom even if you turn it on but don’t brew anything. The bambino doesn’t. So while the tank and reservoir are smaller on the bambino, I find that the tray underneath evaporates off in dry weather faster than it fills, meaning less mold and less emptying and less cleaning.
As an owner of the barrista express, I completely agree! I wish I would’ve bought a separate grinder 😅
The exception is when you have a partner who likes the convenience of the barista express with the easy grinding straight into the portafilter and making pretty decent coffee or cappucino in a few seconds. The coffee nerd in the household can buy a great grinder down the line.
I could have used this video 8 years ago. But as somebody that owns the barista express, I completely agree. The grinder on the barista Express is incredibly inconsistent. Makes it damn near impossible to whole consistent shots.
The express is a better all in one solution I think. Otherwise you have so many different appliances on your bench. A good grinder is quite tall and wide, not to mention different accessories like tamper etc. if you buy the express you’ll make a coffee right after plugging it in.
The way you say bambino is so adorable 😽. It's cute cause it mean "baby/children".
Honestly, THE biggest advantage with the Bambino is the fact that you can choose your own grinder. Many people think the built in grinder is a great pro in the Barista Express (and it may be for the entry level folks) but it quickly becomes an Achilles heel when you’re trying to level up. You can keep the bambino but keep switching to better grinders.
I had both and sold both. The barista express was really good. Now I have the Oracle :)
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This is straight facts and I'm rocking a Bianca.
Thank you for this video, so many videos about espresso makers on yt devolve into "Yeah anything under 500 is inconsistent, bad temp, will leave it acrid and sour ect ect" Man I can't afford to drop $700 on a Gaggia, and the snobs write off anything under as a over glorified coffee machine
Correct to say don't get the one with integrated grinder. But also consider the Duo Temp Pro! Slightly bigger than the Bambino, not as fancy. But it's a simple machine with very little to go wrong (too many electric gadgets on the Bambino). The DTP is an absolute workhorse! A reliable powerhouse for pulling shots of espresso. I've had one for 8 years. Not always been the best with maintenance, yet that thing is still going strong. Used most days for multiple shots.
I have the express and it works great, I grind the coffee while it heats up so that extra few seconds doesn’t really matter. The top is a mug warmer and. Also the reservoir and drip tray are both a good size. I make a latte every morning.
Super helpful as I’m in the market for a machine now. Does your code work for the Plus??
I have the Sage Bambino (not plus) and the Sage Dose Control Pro. They’re a fantastic combination. Fast and easy to use, easy to dial in and have never made a bad espresso! Highly recommend! 👌
I prefer to have everything on the same machine because my space is limited and one machine is less space to use than 2 even though they are smaller individually. Also easier to clean just one machine and the surrounders. the steam header is easily replaceable and the extra time amount is not that much
Got the bambino a few months ago - fast, efficient and small! Entry level/daily driver for sure
I can’t wait the extra 27 seconds 😂. Good point about the grinder
I mostly agree with this video except for the steam wand part. I find it way more easier to texture milk the way I want with a single hole
You’ll spend the difference on a grinder, that will take up more space. And the biggest issue for me is the bambino water tank is basically 2 cups and your refilling the tank which gets really annoying
I have the Bambino Plus and I love it. Compact, efficient, and makes consistent shots.
Why would you want a steamer that makes the jug contents hot *extra fast*? Time is your biggest enemy when you want to create fine microfoam before your milk boils and tastes like cooked egg.
The bambino time isn’t even extra fast, my primary machine steams in 15 seconds lol. Even then it’s still possible to get great milk texture
I have also had the Express for 6 years and its still going strong.
It’s a great machine!
Got my barista express for £200 from a neighbour because she couldn’t workout how to work it. Turns out she was brewing coffee with the silicone back wash thing in the portafilter. It worked perfectly and was brand new. Always recommend having a poke around for local deals
Uhm from where I'm from that sounds like you ripped her off if you didn't tell her the problem with how she operates it but if she's been made aware and still wants to dispose of the machine then everybody wins.
@@bon3wax718 If neighbor is willing to buy like a $1000 machine and basically throw it out rather than bother figuring out why it won't work (or contacting the company) then she probably has money to burn.
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@@bon3wax718 just wanna set this straight. She was selling it for £200. I didn’t make her put that price on it. She just couldn’t work it. By “neighbour” I mean someone in my neighbourhood a few doors or so down.
You cannot honestly expect me to get that machine, take it home, dismantle it, discover she wasn’t working it correctly, then walk all the way back with it and ask for my £200 back because she can’t work the damn machine?
Get a grip and go touch grass.
Got the Bambino and bloody love it. I do struggle to get a clean pull with a bottomless portafilter though.
I was going to get the bambino but the barista express goes on sale frequently for the same price as the bambino plus. And it does come with a usable grinder
We’ve had our bambino for a year now and absolutely love it! Perfect size for a small apartment kitchen and more budget friendly.
The barista pro would be the best of both worlds here if you ever find a good sale on one.
I tried the bambino and liked it, but it is not heavy enough when you put the portafilter in to lock it without the ENTIRE machine moving. I like the express as it is more sturdy. Kinda odd issue [I know], but I wanted to add this info.
Yeah when I was buying I was looking at the gaggia and the Bambino and settled on the gaggia purely on built quality and longevity, even though the Bambino is so feature rich and easy to use compared to gaggia. Plus I build computers and other electronics and hardware on occasion so I figured I can do the gaggiuino mod to it when I have the spare time and cash
If you actually weigh your shots, don’t get the bambino as it only has a button for 1 or 2 shots. Barista Express allows you to program each time and have full control over when the shot finishes. That means you can actually consistently dial in your espresso shots rather than hoping the button gets you to your correct weight.
Bambino also has programmable shots and pre infusion times. So 😶🤔
When compared on these variables yes, when compared om other variables maybe yes or no. Tbf, under a minute warmuptime is negligable when you consider grinding, preparing grounds, tamping and possibly filling your milk pitcher beforehand.
Every choice has pro's and cons. Work them out farefully before making a choice.
But this entire debate could've ended at grinder flexibility and or performance.
But, amazing deals can be had with second hand options skewing the comparison.
They are amazing entry-level machines for people looking to drink espresso daily or have a home barista hobby. This is not entry-level friendly for people who just want espresso and want an upgrade from Starbucks espresso or to make their own lattes, which isn't hard to do as their coffee is burnt acidic trash. You can get a good espresso machine for the general populace for 160$ on a sale. not 300$ which most people would scoff at you for telling them is entry level.
A slow steamer is actually better as you can get more air into the milk. Is also why chilled milk is better as you can steam for longer.
thank you for the advice
The Barista Express is waaaayyy slower than necessary. The Bambino gives you plenty of time to get your milk right.
Have the Sage one and it definitely doesn’t take that long for mine to turn on/warm up
I can confirm this. I have the barista express but after staying with my friend who has the bambino plus and a quality grinder, the bambino plus has way less fuss and super easy simple and delicious. Better machine
got the barista express from a friend for like 100 because he upgraded... for that money its a no brainer
if you would have done the comparison between the Bambino and the Barista Express or between the Bambino Plus and the Barista pro it would be more adequate
Bambino is easier, it doesn't have a Grinder, so just buy pre grounded coffee- its better!
The other thing is if the grinder breaks in the express you have a problem. With the Bambino you just buy another grinder. I have the breville infuser which i absolutely love.
Get neither, get the dual boiler instead :)
Hes honestly the best coffee content creatorout there. Ive always wanted to have a coffee setup but never had the joney so i was wondering if you could send me something
I looked at doing this but my partner was adamant she wanted the Express. To be honest, my morning espresso and afternoon cappuccino are phenomenal once I dialed it in.
The time difference doesn’t matter at home since it’s such a small amount of time. The larger machine takes up less space and has a built in tamper.
The LARGER machine? Lol
Bambino was nowhere to be found when I bought the express. But the express is a gr8 machine once you dominate it
I'd just get the Breville dual boiler and then you are set with a very solid and well-serviced espresso machine and then grow into better grinders as you fall deeper into the rabbit hole.
Isn’t it like twice the cost of the Bambino Plus
@@Ashhong1 I think it is at least that, but....with 2 boilers it can do a lot more. The Bambino is an excellent machine, but I know if I had bought that...I would soon want the functionality of the dual boiler.....but it is more expensive and takes up more space!
Ayyyy I see that Kingrinder… solid choice. Better than the rest!
Got the bambino plus for my girl's bday along with an eureka libra. We love the combo
pro tip, the longer the steam needs to heat the milk up, the more time you have to build in the steam
I 100% agree with this. The grinder and inferior steam wand makes the barista express a complete waste.
The Bambino doesn't have a gauge, and the pressurized portafilter is such a pain in the ass to clean.
The express grinder is decent enough for most.
The steamer is better tho
Very happy with the barista express so glad I got that one. Always subjective though
Meh, for me at least, making coffee is more about the journey rather than the destination.
Potentially stupid question here, can you use a different porta filter from the one included with the machine? Are porta filter measures standard?
But sir I like seeing pressure gauge red hand go brrrrr
The wait time is the best part🤷♂️
I got my Breville Barista Express for only $400 so I’m not going to complain…
I got mine for $350 before the bambino even existed. So I'm pretty happy with the years I've gotten out of it.
Where did you buy it
I'm getting neither one. I'm not spending $400 on a coffee maker, as much as I love espresso.
I have this. Only issue ive had is the drip tray leaks.
I've had my Sage Barista Express for 2 years now and it makes a DAMN good cup of coffee. Can't compare tho not tried the other machine.
Dont buy either unless you are keen to be on first name terms with your repair guy.....
express is the best entry level mashine. When you are the beginner you dont know exactly what do you need and express is the mashine to start your journey. few years latter you know exactly what grinder and what machine to upgrade after express
The Breville Bambino Plus is $500 for those who are curious. I have no idea why he won't just say the prices in his videos.
Actually with some small adjustments and hacks you can brew a nice espresso with the Bambino plus
What adjustments or hacks?
ok but it actually turns on instantly if you use it to grind your beans. it makes the startup time irrelevant
I did buy the express impression which I do think is worth it. The tamping and dosing works out perfectly for me.
as a noob. id rather buy an all in one with grinder than having to research reviews for another separate grinder unit 😅
Bruh my parents already bought the left one. Except for in my country, it's called Sage.
Extra grinder a good one cause around like $100+
I respect what Saeco or Breville does, but not for me. I would go with a lelit mara x or rancillio Silva or even a profitec who could be almost under 1000 box when you get a deal. The longevity and the reliability is worth more and tbh there nothing complex in coffee making .
Aww lucky I didn’t buy the barista express it was a gift and we love it ❤
Absolutely! We actually got the express as wedding present! Not complaining. But if I were to spend my own money I'd go for Bambino and separate grinder.
The only thing I would query is the basket. Am I right in thinking the Bambino only comes with a pressurised basket?
Bambino does include single wall baskets!
not the bripe thermometer xD
Gevi makes entry level machine . 20 dollar grinder from target.