ive just got me a Fender blues junior i love it, it takes overdrive pedals quite nicely too but the clean and crunch tones from the amp alone, Theres nothing like it Its Stevie Ray, Eric Clapton classic stratt tone all day long, also great for country
Same here. Put some NOS tubes in, especially the rectifier and even better than stock. After the speaker is broken in, just wow. I bought the champ without even a thought after that.
I bought the champ, it’s nice, surprisingly nice cleans to around 3. My only issue is that even at 5 watts it is very loud wide open for my bedroom. Unfortunately to get that iconic tweed sound it has to run fairly loud.
Not a fair comparison. They mic'ed the champ with a sennheiser e609 and put a fathead ribbon mic in front of the deluxe. That ribbon mic is gonna sound a lot darker than the sennheiser. Don't know why they couldn't have just put a ribbon mic in front of both.
In his Defense though, the Deluxe is just a lot bigger sounding than the Champ. I have built and have both and after playing through my Deluxe, the champ sounds like playing through a clock radio. Small cab+small speaker=small sound.
Oh believe me high end parts will absolutely make a difference in tone quality. Why do you think some amps sounds great and others shit? If the quality of the parts had no effect working they all sound good then?
@@SteveSchuffert It's about using the correct circuit and using the right electrical components. If a transformer or capacitor has the same specs it doesnt matter if it costs 30 cent or 10 euro. All this myth of absolutly high end parts is markting. You can rebuild the same amp for 5% of the manufacturer price and get the same sound quality
effects loop is a bad idea since the distortion of the deluxe is power tube distortion (and there isn't a lot af clean headroom). Any pedal you put before it sounds great anyway........buy (or build) one as is and you'll never look back on fx loop.
Excelent revue. I bought a custom 57 Champ brand new and when it's open and nothing plugged in yet and volume at zero it makes a electronic noise hum alique. Is it normal or its supposed to be perfectly quiet ?
Those amps have the same parts made from 2007-2012 except the speaker. I have an original reissiue. Mine has a Jensen speaker like the original tweeds, mercury mag trannys, and all handwired, 12ay7 like originals, pine cab, and the yellow caps. The speakers in the new reissues look just like the "custom eminence design" that come in all the cheaper fender amps like my blues deluxe did(changed it to a cannabis rex, much much better). Which honestly the designed for fender made by eminence speakers are not bad at all, but not as good as a celestion blue, a weber jensen clone, or any other eminence. Fender should have took the time to put an appropriate speaker in these amps, instead of just sticking the same old stuff. Fender should drop the EDGE amp and put a celestion blue in these reissues. That's what most people did back in the day anyways when they blew the original paper cone jensens, and either couldnt find a replacement or like the celestions better.
SuperMarioZombies I have the deluxe and you aren't kidding. I never get mine up to 3 on the volume without worrying about bothering my neighbors in the apartments next to and above me. I have to poke my head outside to make sure their cars aren't here when I want to open it up. But that tone! (Takes singles and humbuckers with ease).
I’m willing to bet a lot of that break up is simply due to the fact that the deluxe has a bigger speaker. Leo fender I’m assuming didn’t do much different to the circuit of a the 5e3 compared to the 5f1 aside from the microphone input and extra inputs and volume. Leo fender was about production he wanted to simplify things so I’m guessing they are extremely similair in wiring
Both the Fender '57 Champ and Deluxe amps are nice sounding. What about the price? Not so good. Though I enjoy Fender products, I am of the belief that they take advantage of their customers. Fender prices are inflated.
Teachering same price as in '57, global economy, 7.3billion on the planet, all the materials and labor , distribution, marketing, once again, same adjusted for inflation, your wages have stagnated, blame capitalism, they have to stay competitive and answer to shareholders ,you want it cheaper blow up wall street, adults know this
gus dupree You really should watch this, but I know you won't. czcams.com/video/FgNLoBKN0bs/video.html I bought this amp and in 10 years it will be worth more than I paid for it. Also, only suckers pay retail price, I paid $1,000 plus $65 shipping.
humbucklers in a tele ?? 72 custom tele with a 490 gibson humbuckler and a tele pickup at the neck with a tone being turned into a blend knob .. with a 5way switching Is a good setup .
I have an original '57 Champ, and it doesn't sound at all harsh/buzzy like that reissue does. I've gotta think maybe you didn't do it justice when you mic'ed it up. Also, these amps were designed to favour single coil guitars. Didn't sound nearly as good on that bridge humbucker as it did on the single coils.
They were using a bright cardioid mic in front of the champ and a dark ribbon mic in front of the deluxe. Makes no sense. Definitely not a fair comparison.
In the seventies when I was 6 I could get a tone like Paul wiring a Japanese, finger-bleeding les Paul copy thru a Grundig pocket transistor am radio ....WTH
Rick - all due respect on running R&D for Fender - great job. However - you need another presenter for your amps. No offense - not your strong suit - you always come off uncomfortable. Learn from Paul - he's a good pitch man. Maybe rehearse a bit what you're going to cover in the preso. You need to relax and show more enthusiasm. Make it fun.
The champ sounds fantastic
For more compression and flavour I would add to the Champ an external speaker cabinet. All in all the Champ is a must have.
ive just got me a Fender blues junior
i love it, it takes overdrive pedals quite nicely too
but the clean and crunch tones from the amp alone, Theres nothing like it
Its Stevie Ray, Eric Clapton classic stratt tone all day long, also great for country
Wish they'd add an effects loop though.
@@joebryant8500 ye that would be nice on a junior
I love my deluxe, I use it for recording and smaller jams. Sounds killer
Same here. Put some NOS tubes in, especially the rectifier and even better than stock. After the speaker is broken in, just wow. I bought the champ without even a thought after that.
That is pure rock!!! Absolutely buying this at my local guitar center
Have you?
Wojciech Yes. Let me know if you want info.
Adria Millas Luque which one did you buy?
Wojciech the champ
Adria Millas Luque do you like IT? Is it worth it?
I bought the champ, it’s nice, surprisingly nice cleans to around 3. My only issue is that even at 5 watts it is very loud wide open for my bedroom. Unfortunately to get that iconic tweed sound it has to run fairly loud.
Did ya ever figure out a way to tame the volume ?
I love the idea of just one knob. That alone makes me want to buy it.
That was one of the reasons that persauded me to buy the Champ for simplicity. I think limitations sometimes force you to be more creative.
I'm intrigued
paul is the guru of harsh tones, the other guy's tone is well dialed
I agree, but in pauls defence, the amp has only 1 knob so there's not much to dial.
Paul's probably just thinking about his next heroin fix
So Leo Fender is responsible for blues rock?
Not a fair comparison. They mic'ed the champ with a sennheiser e609 and put a fathead ribbon mic in front of the deluxe. That ribbon mic is gonna sound a lot darker than the sennheiser. Don't know why they couldn't have just put a ribbon mic in front of both.
In his Defense though, the Deluxe is just a lot bigger sounding than the Champ. I have built and have both and after playing through my Deluxe, the champ sounds like playing through a clock radio. Small cab+small speaker=small sound.
Perfect studio amp(s)!
I can smell snakeoil when they talk about these unbelievable unique electronic parts
Oh believe me high end parts will absolutely make a difference in tone quality. Why do you think some amps sounds great and others shit?
If the quality of the parts had no effect working they all sound good then?
@@SteveSchuffert I totally agree. I’ve used good, bad and amazing amps. I’d go with an amazing amp.
Nerd, you really shouldn't talk about things you don't understand.
@@SteveSchuffert It's about using the correct circuit and using the right electrical components. If a transformer or capacitor has the same specs it doesnt matter if it costs 30 cent or 10 euro. All this myth of absolutly high end parts is markting. You can rebuild the same amp for 5% of the manufacturer price and get the same sound quality
I want a hand-wired tweed deluxe with spring reverb and a buffered effects loop. Have they ever made this?
No.
You’ll probably have to buy one of the U.K. made orange amps to get something to that spec.
effects loop is a bad idea since the distortion of the deluxe is power tube distortion (and there isn't a lot af clean headroom). Any pedal you put before it sounds great anyway........buy (or build) one as is and you'll never look back on fx loop.
Swart AST for the reverb part, no effects loop. Impressive PTP amp
Picked up a Deluxe up for 1,000 yesterday. Great fucking deal. Considering they go for 1,400-1,500 used
I like the Champ and the Twin.
Excelent revue.
I bought a custom 57 Champ brand new and when it's open and nothing plugged in yet and volume at zero it makes a electronic noise hum alique. Is it normal or its supposed to be perfectly quiet ?
Norm C it’s a vintage style amp it’s gonna hum just play louder you’ll be fine 😉
I took out the 12ay7 and put the 12ax7 in it. It sounds like a completely different amp.
They should have hum adjustment poti inside and you can reduce hum by low noise tubes
@@Panic42000 I did the same, but returned to the 12AY7 that sounds more full to me.
How do these Amps hold up to road beating ? Im thinking of a champ for my semi . and the beating im concerned about .
Can we get these remade transformers and caps to repair original versions?
How does this differ from/compare to the "Fender ’57 Deluxe Reissue" from 2009 - 2012?
John Sessoms
For sure the higher quailty astron "vintage" capacitors (10 bucks a peice)
And Mercury Magnetics tranny
Those amps have the same parts made from 2007-2012 except the speaker. I have an original reissiue. Mine has a Jensen speaker like the original tweeds, mercury mag trannys, and all handwired, 12ay7 like originals, pine cab, and the yellow caps. The speakers in the new reissues look just like the "custom eminence design" that come in all the cheaper fender amps like my blues deluxe did(changed it to a cannabis rex, much much better). Which honestly the designed for fender made by eminence speakers are not bad at all, but not as good as a celestion blue, a weber jensen clone, or any other eminence. Fender should have took the time to put an appropriate speaker in these amps, instead of just sticking the same old stuff. Fender should drop the EDGE amp and put a celestion blue in these reissues. That's what most people did back in the day anyways when they blew the original paper cone jensens, and either couldnt find a replacement or like the celestions better.
People want that old sound .. Bluse players love the champ cause it has that old dirty south sound of the turn of the century .
the deluxe break up sounds nice but with the volume at 10 you will have the police at your house instantly.
SuperMarioZombies I have the deluxe and you aren't kidding. I never get mine up to 3 on the volume without worrying about bothering my neighbors in the apartments next to and above me. I have to poke my head outside to make sure their cars aren't here when I want to open it up. But that tone! (Takes singles and humbuckers with ease).
I'll take care of your neighbours for a price. Let's make contact.😎😎😎
I’m willing to bet a lot of that break up is simply due to the fact that the deluxe has a bigger speaker. Leo fender I’m assuming didn’t do much different to the circuit of a the 5e3 compared to the 5f1 aside from the microphone input and extra inputs and volume. Leo fender was about production he wanted to simplify things so I’m guessing they are extremely similair in wiring
and thats why i bought a champ
Sounds fantastic through a Rivera Rockcrusher at 69dB too.
That tele sounds great through that amp. Really nice. Are the wide range pups in the tele humbuckers or single coils?
John Larinto humbuckers
You guys really needed a 2 cam setup.
Which is that tele model? Nice intro
Nice opening riff... Could do a lesson on that! (with harmony explained)
Wow! Guitar with mucho testosterone!
Someone can explain how the fuse button work?? It tune sound?? Or are for electric connection?? 🤔
Killer blues amps
Nice tone
You guys should start leaving links to these amps
Rexarater it’s not hard to google “57 fender champ” besides there are lots of sites that have these and you could be in Canada then there’s even more
Besides a 12 year old like urself can’t afford a $1300 tube amp
Does Paul own Guitar World? His job security baffles me.
Rick Heins is the best.
Both the Fender '57 Champ and Deluxe amps are nice sounding. What about the price? Not so good. Though I enjoy Fender products, I am of the belief that they take advantage of their customers. Fender prices are inflated.
Teachering same price as in '57, global economy, 7.3billion on the planet, all the materials and labor , distribution, marketing, once again, same adjusted for inflation, your wages have stagnated, blame capitalism, they have to stay competitive and answer to shareholders ,you want it cheaper blow up wall street, adults know this
Teachering or fine the right seller. Just bought one for $1000 :)
gus dupree
You really should watch this, but I know you won't.
czcams.com/video/FgNLoBKN0bs/video.html
I bought this amp and in 10 years it will be worth more than I paid for it.
Also, only suckers pay retail price, I paid $1,000 plus $65 shipping.
I guess when you can’t afford something it’s to expensive.
Avery Schelske I just bought one. I love it!
Nice job Fender.now those are killer amps.
Why no more Jensen speakers?
Build your own for 5f1 for 300 and save. Itll be great
humbucklers in a tele ?? 72 custom tele with a 490 gibson humbuckler and a tele pickup at the neck with a tone being turned into a blend knob .. with a 5way switching Is a good setup .
I wonder if the 5 watt is loud enough to play with a drummer
JonesHvac: you'd have to mic it if you were gigging with a drummer. Unless your drummer is using a canon. Otherwise a normal kit would be too loud.
what if your drummer was using brushes and light sticks at a small bar? Would it be loud enough for that? thanks a lot for any info!!
OMG, built in the US????!?!
Michael J Fox has never been sexier
who the fuck cut Paul's hair?
humbuckers in a fender? just curious what my tele would sound like thru that champ......but i want one lol
im annonymous I play my Les Paul through the 57 champ it sounds great.
This is how u demo !!!!
Someone put half of a coconut on his head?
trollfiddler, I think it’s some kind of spider.
...its a little suspicious, since after checking last week, I’m actually missing some hair from that exact area.....hmm
I have an original '57 Champ, and it doesn't sound at all harsh/buzzy like that reissue does. I've gotta think maybe you didn't do it justice when you mic'ed it up.
Also, these amps were designed to favour single coil guitars. Didn't sound nearly as good on that bridge humbucker as it did on the single coils.
Damien Galt That’s bullshit! My Les Paul sounds great through my 57 champ.
They were using a bright cardioid mic in front of the champ and a dark ribbon mic in front of the deluxe. Makes no sense. Definitely not a fair comparison.
That’s because yours is 60 years old. That does make a big difference. These amps will only sound better the older they get.
In the seventies when I was 6 I could get a tone like Paul wiring a Japanese, finger-bleeding les Paul copy thru a Grundig pocket transistor am radio ....WTH
why is Stephen King selling amps?
Could be worse, I could be selling frying pans.
So, You could be working for Gibson,then,right??
Someone got into a fight with a lawnmower and lost. I would like to send love to my haircutter. Now I see how good she really is.
Rick - all due respect on running R&D for Fender - great job. However - you need another presenter for your amps. No offense - not your strong suit - you always come off uncomfortable. Learn from Paul - he's a good pitch man. Maybe rehearse a bit what you're going to cover in the preso. You need to relax and show more enthusiasm. Make it fun.
Paul still manages to get a bad tone from an amp that only has a volume control. Paul is such a good meme.
Nice haircut
What is going on with that hair?!
The guy on the lefts hair is the most interesting thing in the video. I've never seen someone with a receding hairline comb his hair so far forward.
did these guys join the same bad hair club n just happen to both play guitar?
trying to improve them??? WTF????
Sooo they just pull the EC logo off and ship it out.
Get your shit together
Javi G how about you show some respect. I own both of these amps. The EC is the way to go.
when its not broke dont fix it .. just gos to show .. play athentic play fender or Grestch .
Wow. Paul's playing through that champ was actually tasteful. Most the time I skip videos with him cause his playing and tone are horrible.
Paul, I hope you grew your hair out.
The "Black Arts"..................
Weird haircut
What the F is that haircut.....🤭