Will Cyberpunk Orion LEAVE Night City?
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- čas přidán 28. 06. 2024
- Cyberpunk Orion might take place in Night City once more BUT, what if it doesn't? What if a new map will be made for the anticipated sequel?
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Cyberpunk 2077 is a Sci-Fi Action RPG game set in the future of 2077 where technology rules and rogue AI's are a huge danger to humanity. In this game you play as a merc(enary) who finds him or herself in a pile of trouble after trying to pull a heist on one of the biggest, if not the biggest corporation in Night City. Now all he can do is try and survive by any means necessary before the construct in his head takes over. He takes on contracts from various fixers and makes diverse connections with all types of characters in the hope of finding himself a cure. - Hry
the issue with it taking place after v's wild ride is it will need to choose a lore acurate ending or completly ignore what happened
Tbh the "issue" with it being after V's story is that it would have to be a lot of years later when the city has changed otherwise we're gonna be seeing the same map or they have to make it take place somewhere else where V will most likely not even be relevant anyway or if they are then they will be mentioned by very few.
They COULD put the next game in another city but that has issues of its own since NC is supposed to be THE cyberpunk city unless you count Japan (unknown on Korea or China unless I missed something) which is the only place that has cities like NC. As much as I love this game, I would say that the "cyberpunk" that people are mainly looking for is very small in this game too so a place that isn't NC or in Japan could be a little disappointing but creating a non anime game they know a lot of English speakers or people who prefer English are gonna play and putting you in a country that is going to be speaking an Asian language can be difficult.
But I don't think the game is coming for a while lol so still too soon to say anything. I'm sure it'll be good. Waiting already.
@@DKOIsoul Militech takes over Night City in 2079. We see this through the Reed ending, but most endings are an assault on Arasaka tower that leaves Arasaka too weak to support NC in their struggle for independence, meaning the NC takeover in 2079 is most likely canon.
If they do make a game that's set post 2079, I theorize it'll be about the second DataKrash, because there was an abundance of rogue AIs in 2077, and with Militech experimenting with the blackwall, as seen with Songbird, the Militech Canto and Erebus, in the future, post NC takeover, they'd probably be even more prone to doing so which means alot of AIs would've breached the blackwall.
The Fourth Corporate War aligned perfectly with the DataKrash, too. The Fourth Corporate War started 2021, and the DataKrash happened either 2020 or 2022. We see the outcome of the Fifth Corporate War in 2079. In 2077, Militech is already experimenting with Rogue AIs. Rache Bartmoss had the R.A.B.I.D.S & subsequent DataKrash planned out before his death. I think there's alot of correlation there.
Imo, if there isn't a game set before 2077, it'll probably be about the blackwall messing everything up or sumn. Idk
The lore from the first game can easily go in many different directions for the sequel. It sounds like it'll be in UE5 so it should look great but we're probably talking about a 2030 release date.
It’s not gonna be V
@@2kool4u_mac67 yes but V was so important that it would affect future night city
Well...not to argue or 'roast' you, but I see things quite differently. We've had 3 iterations of the Cyberpunk story...the main game, the Phantom Liberty expansion, and Edgerunners. All these stories were different, with a different cast of characters [except V, of course...but Phantom was practically a different game in nearly every other way].
I have no problem with further stories being told, set in Night City. Phantom made a whole different city district appear overnight, and I could easily see 'Cyberpunk 2079' being set in the Night City we glimpsed in The Tower ending, where V disappears into the crowd. It would not be at all hard to imagine Night City being expanded, both outwards into all those 'There's Nothing Here For You Yet' and inwards with more interior locations in megatowers, underground tunnel areas, even behind all those locked doors we encounter everywhere. The basic architecture is complete, so adding to it would make a lot more sense, IMO, than having to create a whole new cityscape in Boston, or Atlanta, or whereever. There's absolutely no need to reinvent a whole lot of wheels for the CP77 sequel.
Put into it a new cast of characters [I hope with cameos at least from familiar characters...all of whom are alive at the end of Phantom [except poor So Mi, RIP] telling a new story, or perhaps _completing_ stories whose beginning we've already seen. I was sure the 'political/'spy thriller' Phantom Liberty was billed as being would advance the story of Jeff and Liz Peralez, Gary the Prophet, AI Alt and Mr. Blue Eyes...tons of story potential there. All that is the stuff sequels are made of. But...I could be wrong, and we are going to have to wait several years [I'm guessing about 5] to see what happens next.
I agree with you so much. I think the Cyberpunk franchise shouldn't be based around continuing the same story to no end, but rather add new characters to get attached too while keeping the common themes of the world and similar fundamentals of gameplay sort of like the Elder Scrolls I think. If they made Cyberpunk Orion they could do like a really simple cameo like Muamar comes back and sells you V's car and then mentions something about the Merc that owned it. I'm just so excited to see what CDPR cooks up for the sequel because no matter what they do, as long as it's somewhat similar to 2077, it should be nothing short of incredible.
@@VinnareThing about Elder Scrolls is there’s a massive continent and thousands of years worth of lore to work with. Cyberpunks world is essentially limited to this city and a way smaller time scale, so inevitably there is going to be plot overlap and loads of characters returning.
@@dataroaming7512 my point about elder scrolls wasnt even about the location it was about how each story is unique and talks about something unique
I think it would be cool if the game just grew. Even loading screens in between, it would be cool to have your home town at hand but travel potentially states over or off planet. They could change up some areas to go with time passing as a real city would. Maybe Dogtown get partially rebuilt and adds new stuff to find and take part in. Maybe part of that growth is what makes travel possible. whatever it is, I'm excited to play it.
Your take has valid points. Imo Spiderman 2 (though I never played it) probably has the answer for what they should do with Project Orion. Take the base game map, add another sizable expansion to the city or nearby areas as big or bigger than phantom liberty, and maybe add more explorable interiors. I think NC is too iconic and well designed to be used just for one game. It should 100% return for a sequel, but they definitely should expand upon the map. If nothing else, even a Badlands expansion like what was seen in the Nomad lifepath intro could be pretty interesting! :)
Boston and Atlanta are both on the eastern side of the US. Night City is in California. Not what I would call "close" cities.
I haven't the faintest idea tbh, I'm european so it's all just guessing to me lol
@@ItsThyboBE distance like Paris and moscow
Lmao when that guy says boil shit in piss, he's always been at a table in mega building 10, not on the bus lol
Nightcity could change a lot just by changing the billboard ads, and all the little things around the city. And having new people in charge of different gangs and corpoes, that could drastically change how the city feels.
I really want it to take place in Chicago. If you go on the cyberpunk wiki Chicago is one of the last major cities and all of downtown is a combat zone
Choom, make sure you DO NOT go to Brooklyn and ask people how they like living in Boston. It will not end well
Thanks Choom, might've just dodged a bullet right there
My dream for Cyberpunk Orion is for an entirely separate story set in Night City of course and maybe around the same year as 2077. I also want it to have the same gameplay fundamentals like fixers, cyberware, skill trees, all that stuff but I want it to be expanded upon. It can be simple expansions like giving fixers more gigs, adding more cyberware, but I would like to see how much CDPR and really add to make the city feel real. Also I think a standalone multiplayer mode would be amazing. We already see that mercenarys are pretty common and that fixers have plenty of jobs to give out and gangs are very relevant so adding a multiplayer mode that allows you to just play as a dude in Night City would be incredible. However I don't want to see it turn into a RDR2 situation where the multiplayer barely gets support and has like 5 things to do all for the sake of getting 2-3 expensive items.
The two places I really want to go in a sequel:
1) The Moon
2) Your House
🥲
I really want to stay at your house
Plus who gives a flying crap wha Mike Pondsmith thinks, let CDProjectRed do whatever they want- its THEIR interpretation of the game's world, after all. Not mike's. Otherwise he can just make his own game. The only way i would accept Night City again, if if takes place a millenia into the future and there currently a corporate war going on, and its integral to the gameplay somehow. Otherwise if its justa few years or decades, it should take place in Hakimura's japanese slum city (dunno which city that would be), or even Texas that i mentioned in PL would be cool, since they're antagonistic towards night city
@@MagnitudePerson Way to spit in Mike’s face
Id die if it took place in philadelphia
While using the same map for another game holds high risk of making it boring, there is so much more that can be added to the current NC. Make most buildings actually explorable, add flying cars to give the option to traverse vertically, expand the city’s boarders and let us see nearby settlements, the casino, go to space, more underground content.
There’s already so much of NC that is already there but there is also so much that can be added to make it feel fresh.
Btw for the Atlanta or Boston possibilities, there would be no way they keep night city. Both these cities are across the US from California where night city is based
I would like it if we can go into the net at will and steal valuable information from data fortresses and also releasing daemons as well doing separate hacks as well as destroying and taking everything they have
a new game staying in the same place isnt a bad thing even though we want new experiences theres been plenty of great games that stay in the same location even if changed alot like GTA SA to GTA V as a example plus i dont know if you care for cut content at all but theres a shit load of cut areas/cut content in general in 2077 lets go down the list shall we megabuildings, arasaka waterfront. [mind you arasaka waterfront itself is a huge part of the map and its like completely unused also theres a blockout of that arasaka carrier thats unused as well] the casino and the whole rich people hillside near it that was practically completely canned [this is another huge area that didnt even make it to retail] the oil fields as a whole scrapped [again another huge area just unused] theres alot more stuff like the biotechnica farms or whatever that get no screen time besides i think nomad intro. and not to mention corps as a whole being underused aspects of 2077 despite stuff suggesting they were going to have a much bigger role [like the whole unused militech building it has like interior space and all that but nothing] so id say night city has alot left to offer and the map can always expand out anyways if they sticked to the city i still think cyberpunk is night city like thats a huge thing about cyberpunk night city is like the sole thing that defines the series would be abit jarring to leave already we only had one game with it on a series that takes place with practically all its media in said city. and then ontop of all this stuff theres also still big events shaping up to happen like the 5th corpo war/rogue ai invasion or both at the same time would be crazy to see that. though to end this comment off i think it would be cool to see a new area but i think it should be atleast the 3rd or 4th game they make that does that
I wasn't really aware of cut content, I know that there was as does every game but I don't really know the extend of it. It would be cool to see them use it in the next game now that they're using unreal engine 5 which is (probably) more powerful than their REDengine. I always thought that the badlands would've utilized more but instead it's just bland, here's hoping that the sequel uses it better. I'll have to look into the cut content of the game cuz it seems like there's a lot of it
@@ItsThyboBE so basically to sum it up incase you didnt read all that [wouldnt blame you] theres alot of cut areas that are huge and can be used in orion if they stick in NC [but you should definitely look into cut stuff its interesting]. id honestly think orion will be alot better i feel like CDPR has learned from that disaster launch of 2077. will say the switch to UE5 does sorta worry me cause modding from what ive seen in UE isnt very easy to do like at all. theres alot of DLC that was planned for 2077 like the moon DLC we have seen assets of and there being a super rough land layout.
This game better take place in night city
All i want is them delivering theirs promise they did with cyberpunk 2077 and new story ofc
They can change alot of stuff in night city ofc
I dont know man, i kind of feel CDPR will explore the space side of the cyberpunk universe, plus, ORION could be a big hint. Imagine the crystal palace insides, dammm
Holy shit thats me. Anyway after reading the comments and playing spiderman 2 there is definitely a way that can expand on night city and make it still feel fresh but i also still feel that there is so much that can be explored in this world outside night city.
Dude...could you imagine a more fleshed out Night City!....id be happy with that.
If they can manage to improve it even more, I'd be down for that but it would have to be big
Night City is in California (somewhere near LA), they are probably referring to Atlanta Georgia, if not Atlantic City would be my second guess, still on the east coast.
it maybe under NUSA jurisdiction, and we maybe see them more.
It’s more lore at America being completely broken apart, where American cities are just as worse as Night City.
referring to 5:08 and the Creators guess on Atlanta’s probable location.
@@ermimprettysigmaphonkGo look ATLANTA on a Google map foo. WTF
@@ermimprettysigmaphonk Go look up ATLANTA on Google maps foo. WTF
it might be San Francisco since that was shown in a ad in the beginning of the game.
Bro night city could be vastly made larger for example interiors and metro and underground shit
Like I don't think you understand how much interior space could be added
With giant mega skyscrapers also city's usually have vast underground metro and like tun els and shit
Also moon or a spaceport could be added
Also if flying is added then more areas will be accessible
I'm going to respond to all three replies at once: I agree
Tokyo seems like a more likely location. Arasaka is based there and characters have mentioned that it’s nicer than Night City. I would guess an American city outside of Night City wouldn’t be likely due to the US collapse. Night City is the last beacon of power in the NUSA. Other cities are probably not very futuristic.
A bunch of the cities actually don't seem so bad in NUSA, Judy will text you a picture of Seattle and it looks fine, the area around DC doesn't seem so bad either when you're in Langley. Also NC isn't part of NUSA.
With respect, that's is completely wrong according to the lore.
Night city is not in the NUSA, that's a huge part of the dlc.
The east coast is where the NUSA is, DC is still the capital, the US didn't really collapse, it broke up into a few nation states. Seattle is still fine, Denver is mentioned in lore, as is Chicago.
Omaha, NE is the clear choice for the next city.
I hope they got to Japan for the sequel
Atlanta is east coast. Night city is based in California
That's what I thought. Based off the land shown, it appears to be Southern California maybe the LA region. You move out of the beach side to desert pretty quick as you head east. The wind storms make me think of the Santa Ana winds in that area. The only part the doesn't fit is the oil fields. Not that there is no oil in the region, it's just not exploited. So I guess in a dystopian future the ravaging of the land for what oil is there isn't really that far fetched.
Atlanta is The South
The So Mi flash backs where in Brooklyn. They can look similar-ish and sound similar-ish so its a totally excusable mistake for a foreigner. Personally I think it would be awesome if the next game took place outside of the US Tokyo would be amazing.
I want part 2 to be a prequel where we can find out what happened to or play as Morgan Blackhand, or a completely different story that has nothing to do with V or anyone from part 1 just a new fresh story.
Morgan blackhand is quite a mystery though he is mentioned in the game and in the files so I wonder how they're planning to set him up. I would guess he'll come up in the sequel. Prequel seems kinda unlikely after everything they set up in Phantom Liberty
Cyberpunk Orion does not leave Night City. Pondsmith said it himself, “other stories are starring the superhero, like Batman stars Batman rather than Gotham city, but Cyberpunk’s star is Night City itself and not the person. It will always be night city; the city where the specialized character of the story is living their dystopian life situation. The title suggests that Cyberpunk Orion is going to walk away from Night city but that just is not Lore accurate, in fact it’s completely untrue down to the very core of what makes cyberpunk “cyberpunk”.
Wrong. texas is mentioned. USSR is mentioned. I wouldn't mind Orion to take place in texas. also a game taking place in the slum city of japan where hakimura grew up in would be cool.
Plus who gives a flying crap wha Mike thinks, let CDProjectRed do whatever they want- its THEIR interpretation of the game's world, after all. Not mike's
@@MagnitudePerson I mean in the end it’s Mike’s IP. I’m sure Mike is giving them many creative liberties, and he will always be an integral part of the game development process since they ask for his input. I don’t think he over here forcing them to do shit, whatever they do, they’ll try to keep it as close to the source material since that’s what they’ve been with the Witcher. I personally wouldn’t mind staying in night city since there’s a lot they can add.
@@ItsTaken__ I wouldn't mind it staying in Night City either, as long as they change it up quite a bit. Given that it's now moving to UE5, that might actually be the case too.
i'd love for Orion to take place in Japan. Arasaka's main HQ are there and it'd be the ultimate cyberpunk experience, even more than Night City.
Japan in 2079 - 2099 must be the ultimate cyberpunk experience
Boston and Atlanta is import to the lore and is where the first table top games take place
Same map, but more accessible buildings and the ability to go to the moon/Crystal Palace. Initially more verticality
That would be so cool, being able to go to the moon and back at command which might be the case after the recent leaks
They should be in Pittsburg in 2080
I feel like it would take place in others locations mentioned in cyberpunk, like europe, and japan.
Japan would be sick, fighting Arasaka on home turf
@@ItsThyboBE frfr
I assume we will leave night city completely .. the only reason I say that is because cdpr is switching to unreal engine .. so theyd haveto basically rebuild the entire city anyway, so at that point they might as well just build a brand new map
Could be, they might just rebuild Night City, keep the same layout but expand it a bunch into the badlands. I remember that in the PS4 version and for a while pre 2.0 update, that if you went outside the badlands, it said "there's nothing here... yet" so maybe, just maybe they might expand night city into the badlands. We'll have to wait and see I guess
We'll just have to see in 2077
By that time I'm dead
Tbh, if they do plan on expanding the world and exploring different locations for the game… Japan. If there is one place that would look absolutely badahh in 2077, it’s Japan. Plus, Arasaka would likely play a huge part in it.
It would definitely be a great location though maybe they'll leave it for the third game? It's definitely a place they should go to at some point
I think "Orion" will take place in San Franciso
. .I just wanted Male-V from E3 Trailer (They couldn’t even design that ****)
Everyone uninstalls CB2077
I’d love to play as a detective in the second game or a corpo agent two sides of cyberpunk 2077 lore that need expanding especially after the political espionage we saw in the Jefferson mission I haven’t played PL yet
It would definitely be cool if they continue the three lifepaths and put the corpo one under militech or NCPD. Honestly a lifepath where we play as a MaxTac agent would be sick though never gonna happen, would still be cool though
@@ItsThyboBEfacts at least a dlc or when they do multiplayer hopefully they have roles and factions
I'd like it if they would increase the size of night city dramatically. Somehow it feels too "compact".
Yes and no I guess. It feels big enough for me but the badlands are too empty, it makes the map seem big while it’s not as big. The sequel definitely needs to use the badlands more and fill the frame
@@ItsThyboBE I think that one of the main characters is the city itself. In my opinion, vastness and size of it is important for the narrative of the game. The individual starts as a nobody in a giant city and gradually gets to be a legend. Don't get me wrong, the game does make it look vast and during first playthrough when everything is new it appears like the giant hellscape it should be. And that also goes for the badlands, everything seems large. As you get more familiar with it, it feels a bit too small. Cannot really explain it, but for some reason really vast spaces have their own special atmosphere to me. I know it is not easy to replicate that in a game, but maybe some day.
I just hope we get player controlled flying cars! 🤣
If that happens, I'm definitely losing it! if GTA V can have it, so can Orion I hope
Seattle would be cool, since Mike Pondsmith grew up there
It's not cyberpunk without night city
I think its gonna take place on the moon... Just my theory
Seen the leaks too, might be right or some part of it might be on the moon. Anything is possible at this point, especially with their new engine
I hope it's in Nebraska. Best state in the world.
Dude she was from Brooklyn in NYC What the fuck lol
Already addressed this in the next one, mistake on my part
I like to think about it this way:
If you look at Saints Row and Saints Row 2, the first game was okay. Taking place in Stilwater, the map was a fairly typical open world city with not too much going on.
If you look at Saints Row 2 however, there is a minor time skip and the city was durastically updated, every district was distinct, had multiple unique interiors and shops added to every district, secret pathways and easter eggs littered every corner of the map. There were so many places they expanded upon that it felt like a completely different map.
A second Cyberpunk could do the same with Night City, even if they kept the old map in its entirety, the possibility to open up these locked off buildings and cut locations is endless.
For what I'd like to see in a second Cyberpunk, I played a GTA 5 mod called Los Santos Red, a complete overhaul of the systems in GTA 5 that turns it into a hardcore RPG survival game where you have to carefully prepare and consider each robbery as witnesses could report you, BOLO could apply to vehicles at the scene and cops responded realistically to every scene. You could buy safehouses and property, join gangs and progress up the ranks, kind of like a singleplayer GTARP? Anyway, it's a complete RPG experience.
I'd love to see something like that for Cyberpunk. Maybe a loose main story goal for every character, akin to Fallout, but the way you get there is different every playthrough, similar to what we were promised pre-release.
That'd be sick tbh if they could do something similar. They probably have to rebuild most of it anyway due to switching engines so fingers crossed.
@@G-DORA Some more RPG's elements would be nice, I think they went the right way in Phantom Liberty, can only imagine what the moon expansion would've been
@ItsThyboBE oh I forgot they were changing the engine. Yeah, with game engines, it depends. I think UE5 is a great all-rounder for many genres of games. I've only dabbled with UE4, so I don't have too much experience.
Yeah, I didn't mind phantom liberty, It's a good send-off. Even though I think there's way more they should have improved upon before announcing plans of a sequel.
Given the time they spent making night city. I wouldn't move it anywhere else
They can definitely keep it and I HOPE that they expand on it a lot but if not, a second city or small town would be nice for a bit of variety. But I trust CDPR enough not to worry about anything (besides maybe hella bugs)
5:57 bruh, so mi grew up in Brooklyn man lol not Boston
FUCK!
@@ItsThyboBE lol
No biggie man, think u were just confusing the names of Boston and Brooklyn.. all good
what about DayCIty?
You gotta a point there..
Yeah I was about to clown you for not knowing this stuff until you mentioned being European. But Night City is on the west coast of the United States. Atlanta is in the state of Georgia which is on the east coast. And for those who don’t know how far that is apart it’s definitely more than 24 hours drive away. So yeah not close at all. Also Spider-Man quite famously takes place in NEW YORK CITY. NOT BOSTON! I mean I know you’re a European but that’s not a good enough excuse for that considering they say New York like 9200 times in the game, movies, tv shows, comics, and just about every thing Spider-Man related ever made!
Nah you can clown me for it, I deserve it at this point
Of course it will take place there, it will just be 22 years later
Think it'll take place in 2099?
I'd rather CDPR just continually update Night City. They could continue to grow it again and again until it's an absolutely massive game.
Possibly, would make it easier for continuation sake and lore I suppose. Make one big coherent trilogy. (I think they're gonna try a trilogy)
@@ItsThyboBE Think about all the buildings in Night City we can't enter. What about the underground? As time passes the City would likely experience urban sprawl and grow laterally, giving additional districts to explore (newly built for that game/Xpac). There's loads of ways to just keep improving on what's already built.
orion has to be Chicago or something
5:56 Bro really think Boston is in New York 💀
Listen... I'm gonna play my "I'm European" card and just straight up say that it all sounds the same to me😭
CP is nothing without Night City.
Maybe you're right... but Tokyo though?
I really loved the anime, maybe the could make the game about that? 🥲 or would that be bad? Also.. they need to step up the AI.. its Night City! I'll love to buy my apartment, have my garage have my flying craft aswell. Exploring and roaming around.. omg such potential what the Cyberpunk world has. For CyberPunk2077 on certain missions or places it felt like they wanted to make more of it but they just gave up on it. My vision for the CyberPunk world might never come im thinking a mixed between CyberPunk and GTA. Omg.. i could sit for hours and talk abour my vision for how i want a game like that to come true but sadly im afraid i won't get to see it.
I loved the anime too surprisingly so but I doubt they'd make a game out of it. It's a story that has been made in a different medium so I don't think they feel the need to rehash it again but in a game.
You can have a vision for the next game with hopes, dreams and theories, I have them too and it helps a bit with the waiting but obviously it's also a curse just in case the game isn't what we expected. Let's just hope that by 2030, or whenever the game releases, that they've stepped it up big time and cyberpunk Orion is gonna be massive