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- The Los Angeles Lakers have added another loss to their season after falling to Luka Doncic and the Dallas Mavericks, making their path to the playoffs even more difficult. Colin Cowherd discusses the Lakers' struggles, but maintains that LeBron James' legacy isn't in any danger of being tarnished. Plus, Colin doubles down on his opinion of Ja Morant. Colin explains why he's worried about the Memphis Grizzlies' star.
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LeBron's legacy is set despite Lakers' struggles, Colin doubles down on Ja Morant | NBA | THE HERD
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Jordan was amazing in Washington. I watch his highlights all the time . He was averaging 25.6 6 and 5 until all star then his teammate ethan Thomas injured him and gave him a thorn meniscus
I have to admit he’s been right about these smaller players
Colin does make a valid point about sustainability when it comes to Ja. His playstyle is predicated so much on athleticism, so I hope Ja avoids the injury-bug in his career and doesn't end up like Rose or Wall.
I get scared every time Ja jumps because he always lands so akwardaly, Colin absolutely has a valid point.
It’s not solely on athleticism like westbrook and rose those. If you watch him it’s a lot more finesse a lot of times
As a bulls fan I’ve always said Ja reminds me so much of rose..and that unfortunately is the problem
Funny how Draymond Green and Chris Paul praises how high Ja’s IQ is…but you know more than them, nameless person
If y’all think ja play style is built on athleticism y’all just watching highlights and not the whole game. He is cerebral in ways that Russ John wall and those other guards could never. 7/10 he throwing up floaters. Don’t let sportscenter fool you .
I’ve been a Morant fan since his Murray State days. I must admit that re: getting banged up from driving to the basket could take a toll. If he beefs up too much, it might affect his high flying style. Let’s hope that he can make it work.
Balance is more about Ja’s ability to finish without always violently attacking the rim line Russ. He has more user friendly ways to finish in my opinion. Great segment though.
Exactly. Ja does just attack the rim he can hit the floater and be creative about scoring in the lane. I do also believe Ja will be a much better shooter than the other 3
This right here. He’s definitely coming up on that point where he’s gonna start seeing improvement from deep too.
“Westbrook is really thick”
-Colin Cowherd
Funny but also Facts!
For a long time thick meant stupid / dense. Only now with today’s dumba$$ slang does it mean otherwise
Skip Bayless said the same thing. Shannon Sharpe said, "I TOLD YOU TO STOP SAYING THAT! The word "THICK" is reserved for exotic dancers and IG models." 😂😂😂
Mane stop hating on ja morant the only reason Memphis in yall mouth because we beating up the whole NBA
I'm also worried about his longevity but I do think Ja is going to eventually have a couple seasons of 40% plus from 3.
And why do you think that? Literally no reason at all to think that lol
@@TrevJ91 exactly! I was about to comment this. People love assuming what a player will be, just look at who he is now
@@TrevJ91 he has been shooting over 40% the past month and his shot mechanics are smooth unlike Rose and Westbrook. Both of them jump too high and have a hitch in their shot.
I’ll admit, I’m always hoping guys like Ja don’t get injured because of their style of playing and crazy athleticism. Colin makes some really decent points. It’s not about their game.
Colin's life analogys a second to none in the industry!
Ja morant draws double teams and makes chris paul type decision westbrook and drose did not have that IQ and also westbrook forced passes like he does shot he only got mvp because of stat padding
Haha Unc Shannon is excellent with those too
It’s been too long since Colin has pulled the thiccc and trunky takes-I’m here for it
Jordan with the Wizards wasn't a disaster....He averaged 23/6/5 one of those years....Colin trying too hard to make his point
And they were the 5th seed before he went out for the season with a knee injury his 2nd year with the wizs
Lol 🤦🏾♂️
I think Colin sometimes has some suspect takes, but I’ve been saying the same thing this whole year about Ja, and I always get extreme clap back. He is so electric and exciting to watch, but every time I see him attack and land awkwardly (which is often), I see images of D Rose holding his knee in pain. I hope it’s not the case with Ja, but I am very concerned that he will have a major injury sooner than later.
Colin must’ve forgot that we live in the digital age now…there’s video on everything in 4k and 8k…all his games, his press conferences, everything is on video and it’s not going away…and why didn’t he put up A.I. next to Wall, Morant, Rose and Westbrook??? A.I. is in that size category with Morant who attacks the rim…
B/c it destroys his argument. A.I. had a 10+ year run of greatness, w/out a season ending injury. Steph has had 2 season enders in less time. Westbrook is also much more durable than he gives him credit for.
@@keenannorris3309 lol one example vs 4 examples destroys his argument?
@@darthrex6267 Colin doesn't have 4 good examples to prove his point. Westbrook has never suffered a catastrophic injury in 10+ years. The fact that he's slowing down now is in line w/ the natural aging process. Steph has suffered 2 season-ending injuries and has missed more than 2 full seasons' worth of games in his career. His ankle problems early in his career were career-threatening. Colin's examples are limited to D-Rose and Wall, who tore his Achilles falling down some stairs, by the way.
“They’re pretty close” as Ja Morant leads in virtually every stat
Yes, his legacy of bailing when the going gets tough for a franchise, depleting them of any/all of their assets to build an old, run-down roster built around his skillset. He will force his way out in a year.
Is that really his legacy? Or is that what you WANT his legacy to be?
I’d love to hear about the great shape that Cleveland and the Lakers were in before he got there
@@VeggiesEatMyMeat plus the 4 years before LeBron got to the Heat the Heat lost in 1st round 3 times 0-4, 1-4, 3-4 and didn't make it the playoffs in another year.
When Jordan went to the bulls the team was about to be sold because they where the laughing stock of the league and the WHOLE league was going under lebron is a journeyman just deal with it
@@rashawngaines8067 yes that’s his legacy he left Cleveland to learn how to win 🤔 came back to Cleveland won 1 🤔 and bounced again for another ring 🤔 this dude is the definition of when the tough get going I’m ✌🏽
If Morant doesn't adapt his playstyle then sustainability is a serious issue. If he does adapt then he does have a chance to be an all-time great. Jordan was under 200 lbs when he entered the league and played a similar style to Morant. He later bulked up and added a mid and post game.
Morant isn't a horrible shooter and just needs to refine his 3 point shot which wasn't something players focused as much on before. Morant also seems like the type of player that will work on his game throughout his career so barring a catastrophic injury like Rose I'm not too concerned about him.
Well done about addressing sustainability concerns for ja - I hope he’s got the right people around him to make him think about playing safer so he can play at a high-level for longer, it’s not too late to address this part of his career - great unique take for such a big pundit
We always see mJ wizard highlights what he did was impressive
Robert Horry won titles with 3 different teams. I'm sure there are others too. Of course, none are superstars, but the win titles with 3 different teams has been done before Colin.
He meant finals mvp with 3 teams
Yep kareem did it with 2 I think. But Bron sits alone with 3.
The difference is this Lakers team was projected to be number 1 in the West and they have failed miserably even despite the injuries. This season will never be forgotten.
Forget already.
Yes it will lol. Nobody talks about Kobe being awful at the end of his career either. In 10 years this season will never be mentioned.
@@GreenBay19 last 3 years of Kobe's career were injury riddled, big difference plus the Lakers at the time were not projected to make the playoffs this team this year is.
@@zay_rich so a Lakers team with a supposedly healthy Kobe wasn’t projected to make the playoffs? I don’t think so.
@@GreenBay19 read again, Kobe was injury riddled his last 3 years
Colin might not remember this year, but most of us will.
I don’t think So. I mean give it 10 years I don’t think anyone is gonna bring up this year
Good Take👍🏾
I don't know what Colin is talking about. I just saw on twitter yesterday someone saying that MJ was MVP caliber on the wizards and if it was on twitter it must be accurate.
Yea his wording wasn't great on that point. I think he was trying to say nobody knocks these guys for the bad end of career years
The one thing I think Ja has going for him is that there aren't as many hulking rim protectors as there was back in Wall and Rose's prime. They had to play against dudes like Tyson Chandler, Prime Dwight, Prime DJ, etc. Ja isn't meeting nearly as much resistance at the rim as the other guys did, so I think his body won't get nearly as banged up.
Very true!
I talk about Favre with the Jets. He came to Nashville and beat my 10-0 Titans then he walked off the field doing that Namath finger wag.
Ja reminds me so much of D Rose its scary, mainly because we all know how that story went. I really hope Ja is able to make his shooting game more dynamic, so he can slowly cut back on the physical play
Sustainability is always a question about everyone and everything, just worry about the now and get what you now out of the player while playing amazing and healthy, I really really don't like this take all.
So you’d rather have the NBA be a player mill where every “elite” talent burns out in 3-7 years? It’s be fun to watch, but every guy not built like Lebron wouldn’t last 5 years in a league like that. He’s young but if he doesn’t develop a slower pace, he’ll be the next DRose
Colin, you are spot on with Ja. We love watching Ja play, but he is damaging his body on a daily bases when he attacks the basket and that will come to affect his longevity.
I agree, he may end up like Derrick Rose, or Brandon Roy
I knew. I knew this comparison was coming🤣🤣 I'm just surprised he didn't throw in Mabury and Damon stoudamire again lol
And your point about Michael Jordan and the wizards is so funny to me that media completely looks over the fact that some of the highest rated games in the history of sports came when Michael Jordan was in the league playing
Since then we have had star after star after star not a single team has come close to those ratings he's single-handedly not only saved NBA but made it an international sports
All these college athletes coming out can thank Michael Jordan for getting 90 million endorsement deals before they have even played a single game that's what you call impact change
It's a sad reality that for many in the media who thought LeBron James would pass up Michael Jordan are now starting to realize he won't so they're changing their goal posts like always
Your bias is showing. Look at player movement now compared to when Jordan was playing. Look at the size of the contracts too. Lebron has certainly left his mark on the game. And I’m not even a Lebron fan.
You're not even making points. MJ was and is the most famous athlete ever. The NBA made its brand around two things: MJ played in the NBA and that he was the best.
Those are just facts.
And you somehow turned that into an anti-Lebron rant.
If greatness was measured by popularity, MJ will win until the day everyone forgets him.
Everyone has different criteria for what constitutes "the best," but I have a feeling you define it as the closest player to Micheal Jordan.
Doesn't that feel reductionist? Obviously the player most like Jordan will be Jordan.
What about the player that has given the most expected titles to their teams over the course of their career?
-Lebron James/Kareem Abdul Jabar
What about the player that was truly transcendant at their peak, without peer in the league?
-Micheal Jordan/Lebron James/ Kareem/Shaq
What about the player that created a foundation of success on and off the court and lead to winning cultures?
-Tim Duncan/Bill Russell/Micheal Jordan
What about the player who combined unparralleled physical abilities with championship results?
-Wilt Chamberlain/ Lebron James/ Shaquille O'Neal/ Hakeem Olajawon/Micheal Jordan
What about the player who could play basketball at all positions and thrive at anything they were assigned to do?
-Lebron James/ Larry Bird/ Magic Johnson
What about players who came through in big moments when the game was on the line?
-Larry Bird/ Micheal Jordan/ Lebron James/ Kobe Bryant
Every single one of those players can be evaluated on all of the criteria. There is no right answer.
You could insist that big games and big moments is the only correct answer. Someone could insist on expected titles, and that is by no means an exhaustive list.
The question of greatness isn't with the actual player. It's more with the person viewing what consititutes a great player.
I ask you, what is your definition of greatness, diverged from any examples of players that fit it or don't. Simply what do you consider excellence on the basketball court.
Do not mention losely veiled critisisms of Lebron. Just a definition.
oh ill remember
I said the same comparison about Ja a few days ago. People keep saying he's like Iverson. I say he's a combination of D Rose and Westbrook.
Yup that's what I told my bro a young d rose with Westbrook build
Tony Parker made a HOF career in the paint🤷🏼♂️
I think Ja’s lighter weight may actually benefit him because of less impact on his joints
That doesn't matter much if you land violently. But I do think Ja will adapt his game as he gets older. Jordan and Kobe did it even though they were high fliers early. If you're great, you can adapt to anything and I think Ja is one of the great ones already.
That little run to lane stop and flick it up only work for so many more years.
100% agree with Colin. Jarvis just too small, he reminds me of an inversion, really fun to watch but short shelf life . He needs to hit the weight room for sure
100% facts about Morant. Sensational player, too small too fragile over a 10+ year career. Won’t last too long in that shell
Cherry picked chart honestly. Iverson and DWade fall in that archetype and he didn’t put them on there because they don’t fit his narrative. Ja is a better shooter right now than any of the guys mentioned, including the ones I added and appears to be getting better. Also, the fact that he’s lighter with that play style may benefit him rather than hurt him. See Zion Williamson. Colin isn’t crazy on this one but I don’t think there is any glaring cause for concern with Ja.
The Ja segment is possibly Colin's best ever.
Tons of videos with MJ on the Wizards online
Being lighter than Rose will help Ja with his longevity. Less weight coming down on his legs and knees every time he jumps and cuts. Also DRose was all torque and cuts in his drives that puts serious stress on your ligaments. He relied on quick side to side movements more. Ja has torque and power as well but is more speedy and agile so that will also help him not put as much stress on his legs. He's more quick first step going by you then going side to side. Our legs like moving in straight lines a lot more than cutting side to side
Im glad to see Ja is being praised and criticized in the media simultaneously. That shows that you're being great. "Rumble young man. Rumble."
Or Farve in ATL
The reason why he is so effective is because he doesn’t go balls to the wall ALL THE TIME. There’s power in control and the kid picks his spots to flash so perfectly. He doesn’t need to get bigger. Maybe DROSE AND Westbrook need to get smaller…
Agreed, the reason Zion got hurt is cause is is too big and heavy
Ja Morant thinks the game of basketball. He doesn't get enough credit for that. He is smarter than everyone one the list
John wall was averaging 20/10 while not shooting that inefficiently and you don’t think he thinks the game…nah he got bad luck…and that’s scary for ja cause like those players he has awkward landings sometimes and that’s worrisome
@@_hulse when you love the game you appreciate getting knocked down
@@thomasd540 he’s talking about how ja constantly relies on super athleticism and he does land very hard and he dunks constantly. Morant is a super super young but he’s not a good shooter and has to aggressively slash to the rim using pure athleticism. If Ja learns how to shoot then this will change
@@roderickclerk5904 I don't agree. He first has to create the space to use his athleticism. We are taught that the rim is there for our safety.
@@thomasd540 the rim is safety for blocks not your body ja needs to get better at shooting as when the athleticism dies down it will hurt his game either that or transition in a play maker more like cp
Nobody remembers Namath before OR after Super Bowl III highlights.
Now, everybody talk about it.
Ja's way more co trolled then Russ tho
lol, lost me 45 secs in 😂😂😂
There are a lot of Ja's mom out here in this world huh ..
I pretty sure himself know the risk ..
And he still take that risk for become better player... Just enjoy the greatness rn ..
We don't know the future .. whatever we talk, at the end if this is what he want as a basketball player, "mom" should support him and enjoy his play ..
Longevity is key. Luckily for Ja this is a prevalent topic of discussion in this era, all he has to do is listen.
My thing w the Ja Morant take:
Ja uses his athletic ability WAAAAAYYY less recklessly than DRose Westbrook and Wall waaaaayyyy earlier on in his career. These point guards were trying to body bigs in the paint when they were going to attack the rim. Ja’s game pace and when he chooses to use his athletic ability is way more selected than the other point guards listed…..not to mention he’s doing this is his 3rd year.
BINGO!
He is lightweight, but that's a good thing when you're falling, you won't hit the ground with that much force as heavier guys
“There’s gonna be a lot of people that think you can trust but can’t” 😤😤😤😤
Colin is going to regret placing Brooklyn at the lowest one spot, just two superstars is a MAJOR problem for other teams.
Colin, you meant Lebron with the Heat, not Cavs when he guarded Rose in the playoffs the Mvp year. But I understand and agree with your point
Man does this guy- love him.
Michael Jordan‘s last year with the wizards they won 37 games The Lakers will not win that many games this year. Wtf are you talking about Colin ??😂😂😂
Oh yeah and Jordan was 40
@@carmeloeverhart6377 yep and he didn't have a former MVP and another considered to be top 10 player in AD on his squad like LeBron.
I appreciate Collin saying he loves Ja. When you make millions of dollars talking about athletes, and forget the joy they bring to us…well I’ve been a Bay Area resident for over 20 years…and analysis without a sense of gratitude for the athletes you make your living off would be like SF without a bay. Bay-less.
💯 Colin. All facts
wait till the playoffs he will be shooting a lot of floaters, you can book that.
Hope he stays healthy great kids
Brando made more than 7 Great movies 🍿
That Playoff Series You Recalled with Rose and James wasn't with the Cavs. It was the Heat.
BRO COLIN IS OBSESSED WITH LONGNESS THICKNESS BIGNESS TWITCHINESS AHAAHAHAHAHAH
Ja will need a decent mid and 3 point to help him expand his game. The comparisons to wall Westbrook and rose are valid.
Colin is one of the most spot-on I've seen with this take. If he loses athleticism whatsoever he's done.
That’s so not true Dreymon Green Said he his the highest basketball IQ he seen in Years comparing to Cp3 n Lebron plus their coach said he the smartest player on the floor a lot most his game off of IQ not athleticism , he just blessed with the athletic ability too
@@cellymoe1357 I am referring to Ja. Not Luka
Great argument about Morant
I wasn’t feeling Colin at first because Ja’s points in the paint was double the other guards. But damn, D rose did still an MVP
Unless they actually pull it off
I hope SNL does a skit making fun of Colin Cowherd. Love you Colin
UHH ROBERT HORRY. Won titles with the Lakers, Rockets, and Spurs.
Cowherd made valid arguments the stat comparison is real. But one thing that kind of made me think that Ja is not going to be like those guys is the fact that he mentioned that Ja is just 178 lbs. Which translates to less impact when he falls down. I'm not so sure about this though because we believe that the heavier you are the stronger you get. But there must be a reason why, CP3, LBJ, Kobe adjust their eating habits and played at a lighter weight during their mid-to-late 30s. Just my thoughts.
Ja Morant weight to me may actually help keep him from being injured and lot on the knees which is what counts in the NBA all of the other pains and bruises comes with the territory. But I wish Colin not startle the fence with Ja, just say you don't think thean will last, and time will tell
Sir, Jordan during Wizards actually made team better. Please go back and check teams stats before and after Jordan. He was injured, if it wasn't for injury they could have been into playoffs.
He has his vision of history which oftentimes has nothing to do with reality.
Did they make the playoffs ?
Sir, Lebron during Lakers actually made team better. Please go back and check team stats before and after Lebron. He was injured. If it wasn’t for injury they could have been into playoffs.
@@TheyCallMeLegendzzz 😂
@@TheyCallMeLegendzzz let them haters life phony bro how can someone deny someone making his team better when you win a ring with him smh
The John wall got was low key disrespect. Prime Wall was the 2nd best player in his CONFERENCE.
I always wondered if Jordan didn't exist, how would we view Kobe? Would he be the clear cut number 1? I think he gets slighted because he was such a carbon Kobe of Jordan. But Kobe won 5 titles, and while Shaq dominated the Finals, it was Kobe who dominated the playoff runs because the West had real bigs at the time and the East didn't, gave Shaq inflated numbers in the finals. And if we're talking impact I think Kobe is far and away more respected than Lebron, not LeBron's fault but no one can model their game after a guy that is 6'9 built like a linebacker. Kobe was the artist, it's just weird he gets skipped over to me. Same with Magic sometimes.
What are you talking about? Shaq dominated those playoff runs, both the west and the finals. Kobe had his share of series that were impressive but Shaq was the guy, cause it was his presence that made it easier for Kobe. Also the reason Kobe is as high in people eyes as he is is because he's a carbon copy of Jordan.
He looks like an Angry Bird 😂
He’s also taking more shots from the midrange than either Rose, Westbrook or Wall in their third year. A lot of those paint buckets aren’t above the rim, and there are very few true big guys anymore who can actually come back from the perimeter to defend the rim; the only real rim protector left is Gobert. So there’s a difference. With that said, he is a better shooter than any of them at that point. It doesn’t have to be like that….but it could.
it's like being a small running quarterback
Yep, nice and fun. Hardly last multiple seasons
I'm just wondering why is this even an issue what Colin thinks about a player's sustainability? Man just let the players ball. If he get hurt that is the risk ALL players take. This is a non-issue to me....let this man play and build his career without comparing him to others. Quit trying to always find fault in someone......that's all folks like him and Skip Bayless do.
He just said he's worried about him. It's not like ja is going to stop playing his style just because of what colin cowherd said. Don't let whatever sports gas bags affect you so much. They have to talk about sports everday and they're trying to go viral.
Great Morant point
Great points Colin. I hate myself for liking your work…well done brother. Colin your like that player in the opposing team that you really despise (for no reason other than they are good) but then when they join your team they are the best thing the world. Great points about Rose being MVP at Lebrons peak, longevity was an element of the greats, and TB12 as an example of longevity/not the best athlete.
Skip Bayless won’t let people forget it
Colin right 👏🏿
Ja needs the mid range jumper/ floater D rose had
Colin is SMART. Everyone goes right he goes left and creates a take. It's a good take though. Ja is amazing! Trust as a Bulls fan I've seen what happens to the small athletic guard that dunks on players. Only difference is Thibs deserves some blame for playing him 1000 minutes a night.
Imagine if Jordan left and played with Duncan and a former mvp.
They would hold it against Jordan
But like always we protect Lebron and his losing 😂
Dude is a 4x champion
Morant weighing less will better for sustainability. Better to stay light exploding like that
That’s a lie I just looked it up I found every video he said they erased
Collins stat comparison was dumb, those numbers for Ja aren’t close 💀
Jas ceiling is based off of physical abilities. He gets all these open shots and easier opportunities to score cause he's probably the fastest guard in the league. I dont think that can sustain like a Chris Paul, John stockton, or other guard who plays well into their 30s. However, I think ja is continuing to get better to a point where his physical traits won't be needed in his 30s.
Michael Jordan with the Wizards was still consistent. His jumpers were automatic and he was an okay facilitator. He didn’t look washed, just over his prime. His pride made him retire.
Tell me more about how great Zion is Colin
Ja using Two foot floaters a lot for a guy who’s as athletic as he is. If he uses it even more as well as step through moves off of Jump stops
In the lane he could save his body some.
Agree. This season alone, Ja had injuries on his knee cause by his athleticism. He still young so he can still do all he wants but cannot sustain it long. Small markets can't last long, JJJ, Bane, Ja will get their money in a year or 2.
The goat conversation should be jordan , kareem, and Russell. Period.
It’s nice to see DRose get talked about. I think people forget how garbage that bulls team was offensively his mvp season and they finish number 1 in the east.
Ja though is much watch tv, love watching him play hope he can stay healthy.
Those stats right about mj with the bulls he mentioned? Pretty sure he shot over 50% and was over 30 ppg with his bulls' seasons. Definitely over that if one includes his playoff games into that.
Colin is the best
Aren't you gonna say anything about the MLB canceling opening day?
Who cares
@@mikewilloughby1119 I know Colin doesn't