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- Lost Worlds investigates the very latest archaeological finds at three remote and hugely significant sites - Angkor Wat, Troy and Persepolis. Lost Worlds travels to each site and through high-end computer graphics, lavish re-enactment and the latest archaeological evidence brings them to stunning televisual life.
From the 900-year-old remains of Angkor Wat in the Cambodian jungle the staggering City of the God Kings is recreated. From Project Troia, in North West Turkey, the location of the biggest archaeological expedition ever mounted the lost city is stunningly visualised and finally from Persepolis the city and the great Persian Empire are brought to life.
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Outstanding. Thanks to the perseverance of one man, humanity added a major jewel to its treasure. In memoriam of archeologist Manfred Korfmann, leading the works at this site. R.I.P.
Yet history forgets Frank Calvert. The elderly man that originally identified the area and cautioned Heinrich Schliemann to go slowly with his excavations.
It's a bit out of date. The story of Troy has been found to be a copy of a story from the Hittites that predates it,
@@KenFullman Troy or Ilion is Wilusa
First, There is no definitive answer to this question, as the Hittite and Greek cultures had different literary traditions and genres. Second, the story of the "Song of Release", between exchange of captives between the cities Ebla and Ikinkalis, is not original, it has been going on since warfare was invented. Third, the story of the "Cuthean Legend", where Sargonic king Naram-Sin faces a series of invasions by monstrous enemies sent by the gods, and where he consults the gods by omens, but disregards their advice and suffers a defeat is as old as religion was invented. Fourth, not all scholars agree with your contention.@@KenFullman
I was there in 1985. Fascinating place. It was a Turkish holiday so I don't remember anyone else being there except a guy selling hand made Trojan horses from match sticks (I still have it), a ticket seller and 2 of my friends.
That motivation can do anything. thanks to everyone who ever involved in this venture.god bless them.
Rare to find a relatively recent documentary this good! Thank you
This looked like 1999-2000 documentary, was it sooner than that? Edit saw comment is 3 yrs old
@@LefeinNoel I'm still here! I don't really understand my own comment though... It looks about as old as you say. The over the top Ancient Aliens stuff took over later.
@@stefansoder6903leave it to ancient aliens to mess up the history of a historic civilization and their creations. I’m sorry but humanity built all of the historical landmarks we enjoy today and are yet to discover. Aliens did not fly down and built civilization for us
@@LefeinNoelThis episode of Lost Worlds first aired in 2002. It could very well include footage from 1999-2000.
Absolutely intriguing and fascinating. Thank you for posting/sharing.
Mahameru or Great Meru is just one of evidence of Hindu. As Hindu wasn't religion as today but an Ancient region from Indonesia all the way to Europe. As India the significant remaining.
I am not surprised in Bali 2012 I had a bizarre experience meeting one of my Ancestors from another realm, out of common people logic spiritual understanding. As surrounding of Bali's 4 mountains, is Gate 7 of Earth's Chakra 7th which is Mount Kailash Tibet.
Called Hindia, Indus, Indo (also Indo Europe and Indo Persia), even Indonesia means Indo Nesos, Indo Islands, exactly on center of Equator line. Richest nature on entire world, resourceful both on and in the ground.
Most humid yet stable weather all year around, alway sunrise at 6 AM to sunset 6 PM.
Sumatra itself means Sumer/Summer/Sun/Gold and Tera/Terre/Earth/Land = Mother of Sumeria.
The highest humidity and with so many volcanoes than anywhere in the world made the things decaying easily, even worldwide still don't know about our oldest ancient civilization before the massive eruption of Toba 74000 years ago resulted today world's larget crater lake, volcanic Toba lake with width around 100 kilometers. As our Ancestors were even much more advanced than us today and flee towards today Europe, Middle East, America escaped the eruption larger than Yellowstone USA.
#Indonesia
;) Jesus/Isa, Muhammad, even Abraham/Ibrahim never lived around the world alone since child, they don't even speak world languages ;) I am an #Aquarius (Sun + Moon + Pallas).
#Indonesia #religion #islam #christianity #judaism #israel #ksa #saudiarabia #vatican all of them are just of very poor nature of middle east and west.
Religion = region rely on their legion and legislation. Yes very poor nature regions, the system to fool and conquer the world and no more! Enough of lies! #Truth #Indonesia #RealRich
I live in Turkey, this documentary is very successful. I believe that troy was real and the trojan war likely exist in here !
in my opinion islam destroyed all monuments as per koranic order as they did in India
Pegasus and so?
Troy was Iliad.Name Troy 445 BC.It was rebuilt by the Greeks of Neapoli.An earthquake destroy the original city.Troy was real and people living there in Apostole Paul's day as he mention Troy.
@@jagdishramanathan4620 lmao total lie. Your president is so embarrassing, he makes Trump look like a highly competent Angel in comparison.
Nicolas Pace Do you have to go into politics? Can’t we leave that out ?
I love it when so called 'experts' scoff at so called 'myths'...then evidence destroys them. Arrogance being destroyed never grows old
Great documentary
Hindu kyu bujdil hai bataoge
Only faith gets over the wall
Excellent documentary, really enjoyed it. I've subscribed, thanks for posting.
A cogent discourse I have ever heard! Marvelous!
Mahameru or Great Meru is just one of evidence of Hindu. As Hindu wasn't religion as today but an Ancient region from Indonesia all the way to Europe. As India the significant remaining.
I am not surprised in Bali 2012 I had a bizarre experience meeting one of my Ancestors from another realm, out of common people logic spiritual understanding. As surrounding of Bali's 4 mountains, is Gate 7 of Earth's Chakra 7th which is Mount Kailash Tibet.
Called Hindia, Indus, Indo (also Indo Europe and Indo Persia), even Indonesia means Indo Nesos, Indo Islands, exactly on center of Equator line. Richest nature on entire world, resourceful both on and in the ground.
Most humid yet stable weather all year around, alway sunrise at 6 AM to sunset 6 PM.
Sumatra itself means Sumer/Summer/Sun/Gold and Tera/Terre/Earth/Land = Mother of Sumeria.
The highest humidity and with so many volcanoes than anywhere in the world made the things decaying easily, even worldwide still don't know about our oldest ancient civilization before the massive eruption of Toba 74000 years ago resulted today world's larget crater lake, volcanic Toba lake with width around 100 kilometers. As our Ancestors were even much more advanced than us today and flee towards today Europe, Middle East, America escaped the eruption larger than Yellowstone USA.
#Indonesia
;) Jesus/Isa, Muhammad, even Abraham/Ibrahim never lived around the world alone since child, they don't even speak world languages ;) I am an #Aquarius (Sun + Moon + Pallas).
#Indonesia #religion #islam #christianity #judaism #israel #ksa #saudiarabia #vatican all of them are just of very poor nature of middle east and west.
Religion = region rely on their legion and legislation. Yes very poor nature regions, the system to fool and conquer the world and no more! Enough of lies! #Truth #Indonesia #RealRich
@@RIZFERD you're insane
@@ElectricalExistence LOL you said that based on your narrowed view from your tiny box, you never even lived around the world alone since child and a complete multiracial and multilingual like me.
You commoners are just commoners ;)
Royal means above average ;)
@@RIZFERD nothing about you is royal.
@@RIZFERD you're insane because you think you "met an ancestor from another realm". That's literally crazy talk. Only other weak minded crazed drugged out weirdos would take you seriously.
It was not only Helen's beauty that launched a thousand ships - like Hercules she was divine birth from Zeus, but you keep your minds on the rocks !
Interesting very interesting
Thanks for a great watch interesting makes you wonder what if it’s true
I think like everything there is probably a lot of truth...the myths are probably just embellishments of the basic historical fact
very good
In Ephesus they had the same thing with the nearby sea. It was in former times much closer than it is today
Ancient stuff gives my brain a break from today while working.
Troy must have been an incredible sight back then. Impressive walls, and large buildings painted with vibrant colors. The sights, sounds and smells, good and bad, of a large ancient bronze age city. The war could easily have been fought for 10 years, but it probably was on and off, not constant. Although the 10 year time frame, like the 1,000 ships was probably an exaggeration, an embellishment, for dramatic purposes, just like follywood does today. And if the beach at Troy was all swamp and marsh land (mosquitos heaven) where did the Greek fleet land and camp??
The horse is loaded ready to roll out lol
The great horse the knight , youll wake up with. It will seem like a thief in the knight. Like a thief in the night 😮hmmmm. Well soon gods gonna give you'll a clue. Don't look for walsdo 😅
My opinion on the matter.
I’m convinced that once in the Bronze Age a war happened at the cite we now think is Troy and that it was between the Mycenaean Greeks and the sometimes vassal state of the Hittite kingdom named Wilusa. It might have even been fought over the “theft” of certain women or at least that used as a reason or “false flag”. The Mycenaeans often raided parts of “Asia” as they called it for women to work as slaves of the state working the flax plants into linen. Why couldn’t it have happened the other way around.
I don’t understand why the Greeks would want to make what has really been the most important national or cultural myth of a war against some random city on the Troad in Asia Minor. The Hittite library of different cuneiform texts has also made it more interesting since they were deciphered. Also I’ll add that we have known the bay came up near the city in the Bronze Age, the anti chariot like ditch cut into the bedrock, and the dug out cave spring matches description very nicely. Some of the things Homer or whoever wrote down the Iliad explained so perfectly were long grown over or built over by the classical era so that complicates Homer just making it up. Finally I think the Mycenaean Greek states did very likely choose a prominent, “well bread”, older family member, or powerful strongman type king to led on the largest war expeditions. Yes they fought each other at times probably over the transfer of the kingship of a area after the death of a king without an heir to the throne. These were hard times and people died young.
All my info except for a couple points I give all the credit to the wonderful documentary series by Micheal Wood called “In search of the Trojan War”. Watch all 6 episodes please you’ll love it. PS he made a lot of these claims like the fact water once did come up near the city back in the 1980’s and really gets into the most interesting important Hittite connections.
Remember tons of historians and archaeologists aren’t ever gonna say it happened period. They are taught not to. They say well your guessing but they do when they want to and call it interpretation and usually just say something is “a mythological cite” or “spiritual, religious”. History especially pre history is full of much farther speculative interpretations than saying a war between the Mycenaean Greeks and Troad Trojans of Wilusa happened and became an even bigger beautiful myth.
Michael Wood's series was excellent I agree.
I can never understand why historians just think some stories are myths....why wouldn't Homer write a play of an event that the Greeks would celebrate like the war against Ilium?
Makes sense that he'd write a "best-seller" as it were, any play write wants to have bums on seats & a successful run of his play.
@@magdahearne497 That’s exactly my opinion as well. Like Wood says in one of the videos in that series “why would the Greek national myth be about Ilium if it wasn’t based on some ancient reality”. Why pick that far off place when we know Greeks fought wars among themselves and closer neighbours?
Exactly! Most victors would want to crow about their heroes & their exploits in battles that were won against outside enemies & any sneaky tactics that were used....it's only human nature to have a "my dog's better than your dog" moment. It's good PR to have it known by your enemies that these things are celebrated & recorded, to make others think twice before attacking you.
@@magdahearne497 And that would eventually lead to those heroes doing demigod like things in the story. It all probably started out as a more reasonable recollection of what really happened during the so called “Trojan” war then over time it became this absolutely wonderful yet at times unbelievable story. A modern example.. well kind of is like Normandy Veterans of the Second World War. If you added up all the veterans who said they saw a Tiger tank then the Germans must have built 10’s of thousands when in reality they only built something like 1500 and most went to fight the Russians. No doubt they had some Tigers in France but they couldn’t all have seen Tigers. Also every time the Germans shelled the Allies it was from the 88mm. It was widespread but the German army had larger more destructive caliber guns and a lot of smaller ones like the very destructive 75mm. Over the years and possibly by mistake due to a real and reasonable fear of the monster Tiger tank and it’s general popularity has made every Veteran on almost all documentaries talk about seeing a Tiger. I think some saw panzer 4’s with the very long high velocity 75mm and possibly with that slab side armor. If you hadn’t fought in North Africa then you likely hadn’t seen either tank in the flesh until Normandy. This is important.. I mean zero disrespect to any Allied Veteran and honestly have more respect for the few who are still with us and those who have passed than any other group of human beings I can think of. As for those who gave up their lives for the sake of humanity and civilization during the war… well words fail me. Absolute RESPECT comes to mind.
Let me apologize for that novel that’s supposed to be a CZcams comment. I love those two subjects (The Bronze Age especially Trojan War and all things WW2) so I got a bit overzealous. 😬 sorry
What a great documentary. Shame there is an ad every 6 minutes!
Troy is in western Anatolia (Turkey).
Finally the truth about this incredible city of acient times! 👍
I mean are the arrows and spear head found in the walls greek made or same as all the others found around the site? Cause typically only enemy weaponry would be found embedded into the walls, unless of course their was perhaps a civil war at some point in time which would explain it.
1:00
the experts always know best,
especially the apostles of denial of other people's discoveries, aka the career debunkers.
Only their own discoveries must be uncontested.
Shout out to the dude in the California Raisins shirt 2:37
Can a liguist please explain how Troy came from Ilios?
The treasures being from a time earlier than Homer's Troy could be explained this way - it was likely looted by Troy from somewhere else. And before that, likely by various conquerors. No different from the Soviets who had taken these from Germany during WW II. And Schielman from Turkey.
The Trojan Horse - I think this might not have existed. At least not in the dramatic way Homer had said. For one thing, even if a huge wooden horse was made, it's not likely the Trojan wouldn't have investigated it first before pulling into the city. With soldiers inside, it would have been very heavy and made the Trojans suspicious. More likely would be the Greeks getting turncoats from inside the city.
Ahmad if it did exist it most certainly was not a huge oversized thing
no wonder greek culture is seen as the mother of most european cultures. Greece sure did a number on Europe, Asia and Africa. its past is so beautiful...
They will never find a sign board - TROY.
Outstanding. Shame Troy is gone and Rome still exist.
Rome, still has a purpose to perform in history.
Original: Lost Worlds; the search for troy.
I've seen numerous documentaries on Troy over the years and this one is good. I have never believed in the "Helen" part of the story. Nor do I believe in the duration of 10 years. I'm even skeptical of 10 months when considering the amount of infrastructure required to fight a war for 10 years. Imagine the amount of food, water, armament, arrows and the amount of soldiers that were killed everyday. I also don't believe in the 10 year voyage home of Odyseus. I have no problem believing that this is the location of Troy, but the war was fought for greed and wealth. One of the documentaries I've seen mention a wall in Troy that could not be scaled by the Greeks as it was smooth and the stones were rounded as if by heating. The narrator did a test with the same type of stones and fire and the stones did become smooth. Schliemann discovered this wall and it was where Homer said it was. As added proof for the validity of the site being Troy, DNA tests could be done on the human remains that lie outside of the walls of Troy to determine if they are Greek in origin.
The story of the Trogan war may be an embellishment because the Trojans and Greeks were both descended from Zarah of the Red Thread line of the tribe of Judah
Glad you could get so much from it. I suppose if I look at it specifically and only from the idea of Troy it's ok. But when he mentioned Troy in relation to the rest of the world, I became way less interested. Bc then he really started reaching out past actual Troy and completely dropped the ball.
The region of NW Asia Minor surrounding the ancient city of Troy or, Troas. Paul visited Troas in 67AD.
Didn't the Greeks of that time practice cremation?
In a time and place where kidnapping women was a regular prelude to marriage or concubinage, why would the story of some spoiled princeling stealing the wife of some petty chief be unbelievable?
At 6'13" the narrating voice states: "The Iliad gives a haunting account of the destruction and massacre that followed [the opening of the gates of Troy by the warriors, who had been hiding inside the horse]". Sorry, guys, but EVERYBODY KNOWS that the Iliad does not include a narration of the end of the city, since it only concerns an episode of the war.
6` 13" that's 7' foot why not just say that if they stated this?
@@timmusk9939 "At 6 minutes and 13 seconds from the start of the video".
Troy did exist - discovered by the archaeologist Scheliman. The actual site of Troy had been built on 7 times, I think. He followed the old stories from Homer.
i wish I had enough time to visit the actual Troy site in June 2019, but I was on my way to Ephesus after spending 1 night at Kanakkali, Turkey. I did see the Hollywood version of the wodern trojan horse sitting in the square facing the sea, still awesome view. I wish to visit this place again, such a peacefull town in front of the sea today.
which army had the funny helmets?
according to ancient historians Alexander and Hephaistion sacrificed at the tomb of Achilles and Patroklos. Has that site been found yet?
It’s literally EXACTLY how it was described. It makes me really think like about Plato and Atlantis. I’ve been obsessed with the eye of the Sahara for a while now and it just seems so perfect for that to be the sight of Atlantis. “Why isn’t anything there anymore” because there was a giant flood. If you look at the sand striatum s and the ripples of the desert the waves had to have been insanely massive. So water will wash away anything if it’s powerful enough
New Chronology & the massive amount of data has found troy. Archeology has much better strata data in the past few decades, since this documentary. Gunnar Heinsohn.
Plato also so described Utopia, but you won't find it on a map.
There has been no giant flood.
.. aannd one annoyed woman leveled it. Amazing.
School curriculum will now onwards include this documentary.
Mahameru or Great Meru is just one of evidence of Hindu. As Hindu wasn't religion as today but an Ancient region from Indonesia all the way to Europe. As India the significant remaining.
I am not surprised in Bali 2012 I had a bizarre experience meeting one of my Ancestors from another realm, out of common people logic spiritual understanding. As surrounding of Bali's 4 mountains, is Gate 7 of Earth's Chakra 7th which is Mount Kailash Tibet.
Called Hindia, Indus, Indo (also Indo Europe and Indo Persia), even Indonesia means Indo Nesos, Indo Islands, exactly on center of Equator line. Richest nature on entire world, resourceful both on and in the ground.
Most humid yet stable weather all year around, alway sunrise at 6 AM to sunset 6 PM.
Sumatra itself means Sumer/Summer/Sun/Gold and Tera/Terre/Earth/Land = Mother of Sumeria.
The highest humidity and with so many volcanoes than anywhere in the world made the things decaying easily, even worldwide still don't know about our oldest ancient civilization before the massive eruption of Toba 74000 years ago resulted today world's larget crater lake, volcanic Toba lake with width around 100 kilometers. As our Ancestors were even much more advanced than us today and flee towards today Europe, Middle East, America escaped the eruption larger than Yellowstone USA.
#Indonesia
;) Jesus/Isa, Muhammad, even Abraham/Ibrahim never lived around the world alone since child, they don't even speak world languages ;) I am an #Aquarius (Sun + Moon + Pallas).
#Indonesia #religion #islam #christianity #judaism #israel #ksa #saudiarabia #vatican all of them are just of very poor nature of middle east and west.
Religion = region rely on their legion and legislation. Yes very poor nature regions, the system to fool and conquer the world and no more! Enough of lies! #Truth #Indonesia #RealRich
When is a time machine going to be invented?
When pigs fly
Emiliano Ernetti made the Chronovizer in 1955. I read about it in the 80's, in Germany. Also it was a "hot stuff" subject in some tv show.
This is assuming that everyone went to bed at the same time. Nobody was wandering around at night.
MOUND BUILDERS...HEATHER WARNINGS !!
Modern archaeologists now agree that this is in fact Troy. The jewelry which disappeared for some years reappeared in Russia in the 90s.
@Jeremy Kirkpatrick Do you though?
Культура,называемая троянской_существовала в то время,ещё во многих местах!Троянцы жили не только в Трое!У них там было много городов!
9 layers with so many artifacts and just shallow bedtime story.
Has to be some good tombs hidden there
It seems overly literal to be so strict in the dating of Homer's stories. Didn't he canonize much
earlier legends?
The necklace could have been passed down to King Priam
Those are 2 things that once you start believing in , you spend the rest of your life trying to understand.
Forsan et haec olim meminisse iuvabit!
Per varios casus per tot discrimina rerum tendimus in Latium, sedes ubi fata quietas ostendunt: illic fas regna resurgere TROIAE. Durate, et vosmet rebus servate secundis! (Aeneid I, 203-207)
First seek our father in heaven and his justice and everything will be added godbless
Ха-ха-ха!🤣
46:36 Mudflood
@7:30, watch a large spider or ant or scorpion run across the stone to the right of the carved face. I don't know why they didn't edit that out.
That's the ashes....
@Incorruptus
Thank you for identifying the bug for me.
The sculpture is so beautiful. I'm surprised it's still laying there.
so did they find a sign saying welcome's to the city of troy populatin####
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I think people coming from Europe would have thought "wow, lots of treasure if we take it". Europeans at this time didn't have large stone cities, though they had settlements of thousands of people, but what they did have was advanced armour, weaponry and metalworking skills, and they also had more horses than anyone else, which was effectively a military superweapon.
Just so people realise, the East had cities, but it didn't mean the West was grubbing in the dirt, barely existing, they had a different way of life more based on herding cattle and horses, metallurgy and, as always, Europeans have been masters of war. When the proto-Celtic Naue II or "grip-tongue" sword made it to the East, the late bronze age collapse was upon them. Its use and the new tactics with it decimated the Mycenaean, Egyptian, Hittite, and Assyrian empires, in the hands of Mediterranean Sea Peoples.
The Iliad was originally performed on stage by actors? That's a new one. Rhapsodic performance is not the same as stage performance.
I really need time machine
If cities were seen by archaeologists it doesn't mean they are subject to revival.
Aww it's the age-old scene of dudes in bar fight over a chick... Timeless traditions will never die out I guess.... I wonder would the war have even happened if Paris had just told Menelaus, "don't hate the player... Hate the game?"
The greeks wanted troy for years helen was just the perfect reason to make a war because with no reason you cant make a war Agamemnon wanted troy and menelaos just his wife but maybe he dint care maybe he just wanted the war also
O cavalo 🐴 não aparece na narrativa de Homero.
What if the gold that was discovered was just old heirlooms in the vault?
based on the observable, measurable and visible evidence what city, according to the nay sayers, is it then ?
У троянцев,было много городов,в разных местах Турции!И,жили они,не только в Трое!
İ was hoping the Trojan horse will be found 😅
But they found a few used condom wrappers, I think the box said Trojan.🤣
Same
I got a Trojan for you baby magnums a whole box with your name on it yea yea
Tommy Chong and comment section has gotten immature
@Libby Berman I was goofing around....🤣
It's not lost. It's a suburb of Detroit, which is just a little like being lost.
could be, Troy was ransacked many times, much like Detroit
Illinois
Troy must have been a strategic location that could have controlled the entrance od the Dardanelles straight able to tax ships passing through. Hence it would make perfect sense for Agamemnon to use the abduction of Helen to declare war against them in the pretext of saving their honour. It was the excuse they needed.
Amazing all the things the narrator attributes to Homer and he Iliad...Maybe the narrator and the screenwriter should have read the book first.
He's talking about the uncensored origin Greek.
Isnt it concerned with hitits tribal kingdom because those people were there for thousands of years and had some relationship with hurrians in babylonian of mesopotamia and these people who goverend mesopotamia 200 years some thimes attacked even to egypt and syria which is close to this area.
too many adds. be reasonable pls next time
The premise of this episode is dodgy to say the least. Hisarlik has been accepted as the site of ancient Troy for at least the last one hundred years, a few alternate sites championed by self-serving skeptics notwithstanding. Too, the trope that Homer's tale could not have reflected anything resembling the actual events as they took place on the ground has been debunked, not in toto of course, but at least in significant part. The narrative of this show -- that if you accept Hisarlik as Troy then you must accept everything in Homer as fact, is rubbish, laughed at by scholars but motivation for producers of a television show attempting to manufacture controversy (designed of course to lure viewers). They really indulge in some serious stupidity -- where are the Trojan royal tombs, etc . . . And most of the discoveries that they imply are quite recent and that they reluctantly allow solidifies Hisarlik's identification as Troy were made decades ago, a truly childish form of manipulation. But then television will never be mistaken for scholarship . . . Cheers!
Greeks or Trojans never buried their dead; they burned them on funeral pyre. Hence tombs are not to be found. Since Hissarlik is just another coastal town of Greek civilization, and several archaeological founds strongly indicate it to be Troy is not far from truth. Until Homer the Trojan war passed from generation to generation orally, He was the first scholar who wrote it in letters. He being first to compose 700 years after the Trojan war does not mean it was just a fictional story, though it may not be exactly the same what happened actually.
Mainstream? I trust mainstream as far as I can throw them.
it is all true
PARISI AND HELEN UNITED !!
Makes sense the treasure he found wasn't Troy's, the greeks would have pillaged it
Paul in the Bible's New Testament mentions Troy's location twice in Acts 16.
It's not much of a leap to guess what Troy exported. Horses.
@Songs Mirth Why? Was there an excessive tax on Alfalfa in 1500 BCE? (If they had attained it by then) Asia Minor is horse country, I think. The Trojans worshipped the horse and were tricked by hollow idolatry.
If only they could find some graffiti that said, “Achilles was here”. That would pretty much settle things.
generational paradigms like this happen in every field of life. They've done the same with exodus all built on a foundation of mistakes and wrong chronology. Its paradigms in biology geology evolution you name it. Even in everyday life.
The Exodus has the correct chronology, 1445 BC but not all agree. It’s quite easy to figure, 480 from the building of the first Temple of 965 BC.
Homer did not WRITE the Illiad.
If Homer ever existed, he started an oral tradition.
The song was written down much later.
This is annoying.........
Brilliant documentary. The detractors are rather annoying because no one is saying that the Trojan War happened exactly as in Homer. I think most people understand that the Iliad is a mythological account of a real and probably shorter and less epic war. Just because Spiderman isn't real, doesn't mean New York City doesn't exist.
MistyHerbie Iliad and Odyssee were firstvoll Gospels of prehellenic religion which sacred centre was Achileia. Now, the remnants are the small town of Chilia, half in Ukraine, half in Romania. The tribe of Molosians lead by Andromaca, left Troy and settled near Achileia. Alexander the Great considered the Molosians his ancestors and paid a visit them, crossing Danube river at Isaccea, Achileia beeing situated on a bank of Danube. He restored the town, with walls and temples. The Greeks from the colonies in his way fought against Alexander, at that time Macedonia being not colonised by Greeks. Later, over the text of this gospels, they superposed a story. Achilles, as son of God Zeus and planet Tetis, (Eart), is a equivalency of "modern" Jesus Christ. Odysseus too.
@@anutanastase5687 ??.Scholars, in.
websites,.say that Trojans were Lowians
a defunct Indo.Euro people, related toGreeks, Germanics, Celts, Persians
N Indians, etc.
Also, imperial.wars. always have wraltpower status as goals.
Troy was commercial.gateway for
Greeks to trade + many Black Sea
countries---- strong Troy meant high
tariffs for Greeks, etc.
If Helen.of Sparta +,Troy was real,
perhaps she was a Greek covert agent
an excuse for Greek coalition to attack
Troy + its trade tariff monopoly--- agent
provacateur? Or inside jobber? Iliad. says
that she was rescued + not punished for
defecting to Troy.
Where is the city dump? There always is a dump...
Hey guys, I've got this giant horse statue... Do you want it? You can have it for free, it's a peace offering.
👀
This bronze is like gold butter. Its quite different hmm. Real different like magical. PADRO SARMIENTO DE GAMBOA my ancestor was accused of magic metal. HMMMM
Trojans is 🇹🇷💪☝️
Sliman find another ancient city, not the Troe. Homer has hide it very well and we are the blind men.
In my opinion, salaak if translated in English means Troy..
Myths are mostly memories...
Myths are built on fact.
Is it real? I went there. That made it obvious.
That looks like a traditional Armenian Women's head dress .. and Armenia has sites dating older than Troy
Maurico Druon, secretary of the French Academy: "Albanians belonging to those people older than History itself. Albanian grandparents participated in the war of Troy, led by Achilles (on one side) and Hector (the other side) ".
Troy was a battle between North Albanians/ Illyrians Gheg und South Albanians/Pelasgians Tosk. Helen was never the reason! There were some religious conflicts between Illyrians and Pelasgians.
Troy was not a city, but a region with 12 communities in North Albania. You find all the myths of that time stamped on the North Albanian folkloric costumes.
Correct. Troyans are northern (dardania,kosovo,macedonia)
Как,бы не так!!!Ваши народы_это,поздние"народы моря",разрушившие Хеттскую империю!С троянцами,у вас нет ничего общего!Антропология, и гаплогруппы,это показывают!
Как бы не так!!!Ваши народы_это,пришлые"народы моря",разрушившие Хеттскую державу!С троянцами,у вас нет ничего общего!Антропология и гаплогруппы,это показывают!Не сочиняйте!
My retired Army father had so many puns. One of them was referring to Homer's writings as "The Idiot and The Oddity". Did anyone else hear their dads saying things like that?
Lmao
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Hi, Toni.
LOL
Had you ever heard that pun before?
@@lindalee7322 Nope but that sounds funny to me
My dad said " Battle Axe" a lot...
I used to think it was a swear word.
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LOL I agree.
He'd even draw a simple image and tell me a pun that went with the sketch.
I remember all of them.
My Dad was also my mentor. I have been passing everything on to my son. This includes thinking outside the box to accomplish things. I miss my Dad.
This maybe a good documentary. Helen of troy, is saint helen. Mother of constantine, discoverer of the true cross of jesus. And patron to alot of construction.
Besides most of the archeology. Padre crespis collection reveals many of the lost artifacts , pre dated many empires. The artifacts are from many places. But are remnants of before , the more sophisticated ancient empires.Alot of it was greek, egyptian,records.
It's alot of biblical, structuring and is revealed to the modern day, with bibles, churches, artifacts and monuments.
Upside diy It could be a myth who says how Greeks, (Hellenic people), came in Anatolia from somewhere, (from north Africa, they say studing DNA). In a similary way Jewsh people conquered Jerihon in Canaan country and it appeares to be the same time. Approx. 1250 BC. Somebody said this Hellenic people could be Jewish too.
Upside diy But it's true how many things emperor Constantine mother "did" for future Christianity. If she died pagan and her son too. She was Greek ethnicity too.
@@anutanastase5687 ,how much more. She had five sons. I have a Oxford dictionary of saints. And looked her name up.
Finding an iconic symbol is fascinating, throughout films and politics there seems to have been a bit of soul searching. Linking peices together.The true cross was carved into a small box, as one horror movie explained. Was used with the spear for a sacrafice. Maybe some witchcrafting.
@@anutanastase5687 - u have the chronology wrong, the Hebrews under Joshua destroyed Jericho in 1405 BC otherwise the archaeology discredits Joshua.
Constantine had as much to do with Christianity as Lucifer did.
genesis chapter 6 . been there , no man did this
Apostole Paul mention Troy.The angel told him to gross over to Macedonia.He was standing in the side of Troy and gross from there to Neapolis where is the of Calamata is.Read the missionary journey of Paul.
Troas.
They named a condom after his story
The "Experts" weren't Experts, we're they? A Doubting Thomas in every walk of life.
my name is troy 🙂
Of course Homer's story is correct. Believe Homer.
haha. the greek army pours in(documentary shows 3 men). seems legit, after 10 long years with no siege weapons :))
The city of Troy existed but it was not the one of the Troyan War. It actually happened in Mylitos , some 400 km south of Troy. The story was narrated 500 years later by Homer and was written as a story to be narrated in front of the public. The war started for many women slaves taken from Mylitos and forced to work for Mycynae on thd Peloponese