2021 Giant TCR Advanced Pro 1 Disc First Ride Impressions
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- Today I finally get to test out the new 2021 Giant TCR advanced Pro 1 disc. I linked up with a small group after work one day so I could get a complete first impression of the bike.
Unboxing Video:
• 2021 Giant TCR Advance...
All things held constant I may get to race a bike in the next couple of weeks!
I hope everyone is staying healthy!
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Excellent and refreshing content bro. Definitely underrated.I was definitely 50-50 about getting this bike but now you've got me sold! I hope your channel blows up! Keep it up!
Thanks for the review! I ordered this 2021 TCR from my local bike shop last week after researching half a dozen bikes. I currently ride a 2008 Madone (which over the years have upgraded the wheels and components) but I thought it was time for a new bike. The review made me feel good about my purchase. Thanks again for the great review!
You are welcome and I appreciate the kind words! I haven't met anyone who has been disappointed with this thing yet
excellent choice. You and me both felt same way about the review. I feel good about my purchase and can't for the TCR to arrive!
Awesome editing dude! Really enjoyed the bike setup section
Thanks, I really appreciate that!
Thanks for the excellent comparison, exactly what I was looking for. Convinced me to hang on and save for the ISP version!
I'm glad I could help!!
A very nice review!
So good to see more TCR's lovers.
There were days (2013) that i was passing every day near the Giant shop and fantasized on a white/black tcr advanced....
And finally bought it.
The TCR has a shape that makes me crazy.
The sloping tube, the short chain stays, the shape of the tubes with that massive rectangular down tube , and big strong head tube. Im addicted!
But its not only the look (though i admit its the bigger side of my addiction), also the geometry of the bike makes the handling feel great! The bikes is stable and strong but also comply enough.
All of this makes it a pleasure and lot of enjoyment to ride it!
There are great other bikes, BMC with its stable and comfy ride, Canyon Ultimate, Scott Addict ( what a great company),
But the TCR, ho the TCR is my best!!
🌹
Thanks for the video. I also enjoyed the unboxing one you did 👍🏻
Thanks!!
Ordered my 21 TCR advanced. First road bike I can’t wait.
my new TCR is on way also.....not my first road bike, but my first carbon fibre! can't wait!
The Bianchi Oltre XR4 is absolutely gorgeous! I am deciding between the Sprint and XR3 currently.
Love the review style. keep it up.
Giant never fails!
I love the color on the bike, personally, the subtle purple tint is nice.
I have the same TCR and was planning on replacing it with the 2021 TCR
Accidentally got this but behold it was fast and gorgeous in person.
Waiting for an update for your final review on the bike. I have a Defy advanced Pro 2. Love the comfort on it, but now considering this bike for shorter quick rides
Thanks for the review! I am considering this one with Canyon aeroad 2021, which one do you think you will choose personally?
Great video, Thanks 😊
Kudos to the guy on the revolt. Holding the pace on a gravel bike.
And with that big pack on his back.
Nice video man! I'm thinking to order the TCR advanced pro 0 disc today... First disc bike for me ;)
Order is done, let the waiting begin 😅
The thinking didn't take long!!😂
Some seconds in the shop 😅😂
Wish someone would review the rim brake version of this bike, like weight and stuff.. Looking to get the rim brake version
Me too. Looking to buy an Advanced Pro frame and build it up with Ultegra and my Boyd wheelset.
Fire content guy!!
Thank you!
What's your Strava name? I would like to see your current speed, watts, hear rates, etc. Please :)
Nice video. I found the intro a little long but that's just me. If you're not familiar with bleeding hydraulic brakes, I would definitely recommend getting a bike mechanic to shorten the brake cables.
Keen to see the next vid. When’s it due out?
How those heavy Gaia tires perform vs popular fast and race tires? Are they worth to use for fast rides or I should change them instantly before 1st ride to not get dissapointed about bike performance? :P. Coming from Caad12 withGp 5000 (latex tubes FTW).
The cables. Yes. Exactly. Like it’s 2018. First thing I noticed.
Thanks for the review, I am currently looking to buy advance 1 disk 2021 version (no power meter☹️). Would you recommend getting the higher model from 2020 or stick with the new model? Thanks
I definitely think the 2021 is worth the investment. Even if you just get a lower model to start and slowly add to the bike as you go.
Giant is notorious for the bikes coming from factory with messy and overly long cables... just had the components from my 2019 TCR Adv Pro disc moved onto new 2021 Frameset and excited to experience the difference. Also have a 2018 TCR SL, so again excited to see if 2021 non-ISP bike is closer to previous generation SL.
I've been going back and forth on it as far as how smooth the bike rides. I definitely think the stiffness makes up for anything lost in the seatpost area. As far as the cables go, I fully agree!
Hi Matt
What’s your experience between the old SL vs the newer 2021 frame
Thanks for the video! Would you personally choose this bike or a 2020 TCR SL disc with the same groupset?
If price wasn't a factor then I would definitely choose the 2021 model just for the internal cable routing on the fork let alone the bike riding nicer. If it's a good enough deal though the 2020 sl is a nice bike!!
Not sure where this is but g’damn I’m moving there tomorrow! Glorious scenery.
I appreciate that! It's a small town in North Carolina with plenty of great country roads to ride on
Well, my 2021 Giant TCR Advanced Pro 1 Disk arrives today so I hope the British countryside can hold a lamp to these shots. 🙏
Hello sir, do you know where could I buy 2021 Giant TCR Advanced pro 1 size small not disc version? Thank you in advance
Thanks for the video. Do you know of any list of tyres that will be compatible with the stock SLR 1 hookless rims?
You can fit some hutchinson tires or the Schwalbe One TLE on the slr1 rim. Conti are a no go for the moment.
But the giant tires are working just fine as well. In higher temperatures they are not as hard and provide you with plenty of grip too.
Great review (production is getting better man!) ... it's 11:30pm and i'm on Giant's website eyeing this. *sigh*
I appreciate the kind words man! It's a great bike to drool over
Great video thanks for posting up, I was really keen on the new 2021 Revolt Advanced, would you say the TCR advanced pro is massively stiffer ride and not very compliant on poor roads especially with 25’s, I’m mid 50’s and want a fast bike that’s really compliant and not edgy on the steering and will put the power down really well. Maybe half way with the defy advanced pro would give best of both worlds.?
Thank you! I love the TCR and for as fast as the bike is I think it's comfortable. With that being said, the Defy would definitely be the midpoint between the revolt and the TCR. I've seen people race the defy in a cyclocross race as well as a crit race so it's an extremely versatile bike!
@@MossieRidesBikes Thanks for the info, that’s interesting re using defy as CX bike, I do love the GRX levers and higher brake pivot point on Revolt, do you think I will lose out a fair bit of speed with a revolt advanced to a defy advanced pro.? Also on Revolt size wise I’m 5f 11” and in side leg 33” have long arms. I do like a longer wheelbase and the reach on M/L vs L only 6mm but like the idea of 46cm handle bars on L , thanks Derek
Thanks for sharing this! I'm waiting for my 2021 Giant TCR Advanced Pro 0 Disc with Di2. Now I'm riding on a Cannondale Synapse Hi-Mod. I'm very curious how different will be the TCR. So many new things come with this bike for me: Powermeter, Disc, Carbon wheels, Di2. I'm so excited!
That's going to be an awesome ride. Definitely let me know how you like it compared to the synapse!
Do you have a link to the air compressor adapter?
Thanks for taking the time to put the videos together. This one and the unboxing one were just what I was looking for. I too am a bit underwhelmed with the colors Giant went with but will still be looking to get the rosewood one myself.
I do have a couple questions. I recently purchased a Giant Revolt Advanced 0. I love the bike. I went with a size large and I just love how compact the bike feels. So much more responsive than my 19 XL Giant Defy advanced. Problem with the Revolt is that I have the seat at maximum height and it is about 3/4 of an inch too low for me. My girlfriend says size doesn't matter but in this case... it does.
Do you think I will have the same issue if I go with a size Large 2021 TCR?
And question number 2- Other than buying the aluminum d-fuse seatpost for the Revolt... any suggestions on how I can get my saddle up another 3/4 of an inch?
Thanks for the kind words! Let me take a look at the geometry of the two bikes before I give you a definitive answer on if the large or XL would work better for you. As for the current bike you have, I believe the only thing you could do is to get the longer seatpost.
@@MossieRidesBikes thank you for such a quick reply. I was pretty sure there would be no other option than to go with the aluminum post on the Revolt. I just hate the thought of spending money to go from a carbon post to aluminum on such a nice bike.
I looked at the geometry of the large TCR compared to the large Revolt but honestly... I'm not knowledgeable enough to determine if ill be able to get the height needed out of the TCR based on looking at the numbers.
Thanks for any insight you can provide.
@@MossieRidesBikes i mentioned 2020 TCR in my first comment but ment to say 21 model year. Sorry for blowing up the comment section on you.
May i know the exact wholebike with pedals weight? Thanks
Did you find the power meter to be pretty accurate and reliable?
Waiting for bike-sizing and going to order TCR advanced Pro 0 disc. But availability 4 week of 2021 (for m/l) and 10 week of 2021 (for l size) make me sad.
Hi, i don’t know what to choose between trek émonda 2021 (no cables) or tcr disc 2021 with power pro.... what’s better? Thanks
Get the TCR 2021 pro my man, power meter will help you train so much
Awesome video. Do you know when the 2021 TCR will be available to order? Online says "coming soon", maybe I need to talk to my local shop? Thank you.
Definitely talk to your local shop. My understanding is that there were very few that came in this first batch so I just got lucky. The bike is technically available to order but I don't think Giant can give a hard date because of the current crazy shipping situations
@@MossieRidesBikes sounds good, thank you for the reply!
My 2015 supersix is comfy but does feel flexy and slow on the flats. However, it's pretty fast up climbs.
Those bikes were always known for being super light!
I own a 2017 TCR (ISP) and I love my bike as well. However, I’m starting to get that annoying creaking noise from the seat post. I read other reviews mentioning that this is a common problem. I enjoyed your video. There’s hardly any in depth videos on TCR’s. You did an excellent job and I look forward to seeing your future videos on this bike.
I appreciate that! I'm in the same boat as you with the seatpost making a little noise on my 2017. I did apply some carbon paste to mine and that has alleviated the creak for now
Mossie Rides Bikes Unfortunately, I tried that with no avail... nonetheless thanks Mossie for replying.
Hi, you have a very nice t shirt(cycologist)! Where can I buy them? Thanks!
Have you tried different tires on it yet? Giant hasn't updated their 'approved' list yet and I don't want to be stuck with only Giant tires...
I haven't personally but a good friend immediately put GP5000 TLs from Conti on it with no problems
Great video! I've been riding Cannondale but I'm considering Giant. Just confused with all the TCR frames. What's the difference with the Advanced and Advanced Pro? I know the SL is the lightest and stiffest composite. And what is the price point on this bike that you featured?
The advanced is base model carbon and usually an aluminum steer tube. The pro gets a bump up in carbon, plus the carbon steer tube. Then the sl is mainly the use of the integrated seatpost that lightens the bike up and it rides nicer as well. The pro 1 in the video retails at $4300 I believe. I hope that helps!
There is no difference in the frame. Just the fork: aluminum steerer on advanced vs carbon steerer on advanced pro.
it USED to be [what the other people said,] aluminum steerer-tube and carbon-fiber front-fork. but for several years now (it’s listed as-so on Giant’s own website) it’s-been “carbon-fiber steerer-tube and carbon-fiber front-fork”, starting-with the Year-2020-model TCR, if memory serves me.
in addition to that, the “SL”-model uses a DIFFERENT blend-&-layup of carbon-fiber (one which Giant claims has [, if memory serves me,] for extra-stiffness & extra strength) AND a “integrated seatpost” (ie. that the seat-post isn’t 1-separate-piece. It’s part-of the frame).
I was confused on u saying it was one sided powermetter n could find that model unles u put another crank had me lost
Do you think the pr2 wheels really bog it down? I heard there the heaviest rims and there stock. I have a 2018 Giant TCR ADVANCE DISK KOM colors black and orange. Still have the stock pr2 wheels on it.
This particular model comes with giants carbon wheels and they make the bike ride really well. I have a set of PR2s that I still use to this day because they have been bomb proof. They are heavy though so I use them mainly through the winter
@@MossieRidesBikes thank you. I plan to get some carbon rim's because I want to get into crit racing. I'll do a lot of research on brands first along with tires. For an example I guess some racers only use Specialized cotton tires only for racing .
Hi. Great Video. Hows the performance of the new SLR 1 wheelsets..
From what I could tell they worked great. They seemed to be very stiff which is what I love in a good wheelset. Coming from my shallow carbon rim brake wheels they felt phenomenal in the fast group ride!
how did you guys pre order ?
Great video....looks like you guys are moving...what was your avg. Speed....keep up the great work..👍🇨🇦
Thanks man! I'm honestly not sure the exact average. I usually don't reset my computer during the day when I commute but with the two rides combined it was 22mph.
@@MossieRidesBikes wow....that is moving...that around 35km/hr.....very nice
What type of wheels? My 2018 giant tcr advance disk KOM feels sluggish but,was told because I have stock pr2 wheels.
I've got the same bike. It was a huge upgrade for me so I'm still satisfied in buying it, but with the better frame, Di2, better wheels and room for bigger tires, power meter... this seems like a LOT more bike.
like that you labeled your buddys make and model as they rode through.
how tall are you and what size did you go with here? same size as your 2017 TCR? I know the geometry has changed so im curious.
I went with the same as my 2017 which is a medium. I am 5'10 with a 32 inseam if that helps
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Loved the unboxing and this review. I'm thinking about getting the TCR ADVANCED PRO DISK 0. I'm 5ft 7 with 32 inseam. Ive long legs and short torso, what size would you recommend? Subscribed 👍
Haha taint meat. I'm seriously considering this bike. Never had a thoroughbred road bike. Ridden a cross bike for years. Although I like the rough stuff I really want a proper roadie rig. Will even get myself some lycra 👍
I don't think you will be disappointed!
I wonder how it compares to the bianchi’s in your group. The infinito is more endurance, i know, the oltre ofcourse not.. But i wonder about the bianchi cv-system vs giant tcr comfort(or absence of it, lol).
That's a thought question honestly without me riding them back and forth for a while. I think that the CV bikes ride nicer than the standard advanced frames from giant but when you go to the ISP bikes that gap is a loooooot smaller. I also love the different applications of CV in Bianchi's different models
Mossie Rides Bikes ; thx mate, i hoped your group would try each others bike out, but that ofcourse depends on sizes and what not. I tried a cv bianchi vs a non-cv bianchi and i thought it worked well (especially chose a bad, wobbly, belgium-alike road). Bianchi dealer promised me a infinito cv to test for a day or more in coming week. Sofar i liked the otre x3’s position more, more racy, but not extremely deep. I’ll be checking out the tcr 2021 also, also a pro 1 (thus i checked your channel, to see the colour). I am curious what the white one will look like.
I haven't had a chance to see the white one in person. I agree with everything you said about the Bianchi's though. I prefer the oltres more racey feel over the infinito but it still rides nice. I would love to actually test out the infinito on something more rough than what I have been able to
What camera and mounts are you using to film your rides?
I have the GoPro hero 8 black with the chesty harness and the j-hook attachment. I just got the new 9 but haven't filmed anything with it yet😁
1 year review? 2022 worth it?
I just found this video as I am on the fence of updating my 2016 TCR SL 1 rim brake/mechanical, it would be really great if you can update on how the TCR advance Pro disc has gone so far. TCR SL seems to be difficult to beat as you mentioned I am also in love with this bike, unfortunately new SL prices are over the clouds.
I still put the TCR in general as one of the best frames I’ve ever ridden. Having the ISP makes the bike just a little lighter and ride just a little nicer but it is more expensive. Honestly, in todays limited inventory I would probably take whichever one I could find😅
Can I ask how much an ISP affects convenience? Like how worth it is it? Cause im torn whether to get this advanced pro over the SL due to the latter having ISP Great vid btw thanks and keep it up
I love the ISP and it does make the bike ride better from a comfortability standpoint. The frame is also lighter but it is pretty nominal. As far as convenience goes I haven't ever been hindered by it but I could see it being a pain if you needed to ship your bike or take it with you on a flight. There is also a decent amount of adjustment with the different spacers so you aren't actually stuck where you cut it.
@@MossieRidesBikes thanks so much for the response! I see what you mean i honestly think i can maybe live with it but just got word from my bike fitter to go for the non isp models hahaha since i do plan to travel quite a lot in the future with the bike
OMG I don't need to spend anymore money on another bike, Why did I watch this :- ( …. heading to the bank thanks Pal. LOL BTW I need you to order me a Maxxis Ardent 29er tire.
Robert E , me too why am I watching this I have 5 bikes already I might have to get a TCR and make it 6 bikes🤣😂.
nice !
very jealous....i hope to get my TCR later this week so will hope to have a video like this soon.....
BTW, you added some fluid into tyre at start....does the bike arrive packed and tubeless ready with fluid inside?
It comes with everything already setup tubless without the sealant installed. They do provide the sealant so all you have to do is squirt it in and go!
@@MossieRidesBikes ahhhhh, no inner tubes or anything?
@@PoetWithPace nope, no tubes at all. they give you the little valve core remover tool though!
@@MossieRidesBikes good to know. they do that for all TCR models as I've ordered the 2020 Advanced 3 model?
do your legs ever hit the cables out front when riding out of the saddle?
Yes!! It was a little annoying that it came that way from the factory but after cutting the cables down a bit the ole legs don't hit them anymore
wtf is that saddle angle?
what's your height, inseam and frame size?
5'10, 32", and I ride a medium
What is the difference between kom and the pro?
Typically there is no difference in the frame. It is usually the components that get swapped to maximize climbing efficiency on the KOM (king of the mountain) version of the tcr.
Where in America is this such a good vibe
It's a lot of the rural roads right outside of Charlotte NC.
@@MossieRidesBikes where in Charlotte? I ride with a group out of Waxhaw NC! Many groups ride the country roads out there!
Mainly in the Gaston and Lincoln county area. There are definitely a healthy amount of good group rides and roads around here😄
Is the handlebar carbon or alloy ?
They are alloy
at 6:50 the bianchi has a very good tail light. Does anyone know how is it called? @Mossie Rides Bikes
It's actually a Giant light. It's called the numen if I'm not mistaken
How rigid is the frame compared to let's say the Defy?
It is definitely more rigid. The power transfer of the TCR is great! Granted, I am a big fan of the TCR but in my opinion the only reason I would get a defy is for the bigger tire clearance
@@MossieRidesBikes Thanks. I'm asking because I am looking for a new bike and to be honest, TCR is very appealing. The roads where I live are not that great and I am struggling to make a decision.
Also, what would you recommend in my case? I have a set of ZIPP 404 (rim brake) on my current bike and should I buy the cheapest TCR PRO Ultegra + RIM version and crappy wheels (and replace them with my 404's), or just sell my old bike along with those and buy a disc version of TCR or even defy? I don't have a big budget but I really need to change my bike.
Wow, beautiful place to ride bike in! Where is this?
It's not too far outside of Charlotte, NC!
Mossie Rides Bikes Nice! Lucky you. I live in Texas, and it’s very flat. Only hills we have is highway overpasses. Enjoy that TCR!
Disingenuous marketing, studio lights and 'adjusted' press images have always made the Rosewood fade look significant over the all-black version. Disappointed with the color but the bike as a whole still good value for money.
Ya know, the more I have looked at it, the more it has grown on me. It's not that bad of a color way BUT it's the fact that it looks so different from what Giant puts out online that erks a lot of people
when does this bike release in US?
It is currently for sale in the US already but the supply is verrrryyy limited
Mossie Rides Bikes thanks for the response. Has it been distributed to LBS retailers? there website has it listed as “coming soon” been trying to get one for a couple weeks now
It doesn’t have electric shifting does it
Nope, it is just ultegra mechanical
@@MossieRidesBikes that explains why the 0 disc is 1000$ more
What’s the purple bike ?
That's a trek emonda alr
2 guys with big backpacks why ? Training weight ?
They commuted in that morning like I did.
Now motivated to do the same - I’m about 25 miles out from work. Bird bath when I get to work no choice
I'm with ya. On top of the bird bath I have been using those deodorant wipes that help keep the funk at Bay. 25 mile commute makes for a good day of riding!!
Had a 2020 Disc not impressed sluggish even tried ceramic bearings on the slr wheel set still bike felt horrible shame great looking bike except for that front disc cable on the exterior that looks horrible. Sold it for a BMC slr01 non disc. Still looking for that fast disc bike. Haven’t found it yet.
I would see if you could test ride this one. I wasn't a huge fan of the 2020 tcr Disc either but the 2021 was what I was wanting out of the 2020. It does have its faults but being sluggish wasn't one of them!
Mossie Rides Bikes I live in Florida Broward county which is flat so our group rides here are fast need a bike that has momentum tcr 2020 I had to work harder just to keep my pace after 25 26 plus that was my experience. I also have a rim brake F8 that bike feels like at those speeds effortless. If the new 2021 feels like that I would give it a try.
@@richarddiaz2226 I would say it is definitely better. There is a big difference between my kom bike and the new aero tube shapes of the 2021 tcr. Our group ride terrain is rolling and we averaged around 24 for the ride. On the flats I never felt that "holding you back" feeling when I got to the front. Or I could have just been having a good day 😂
@@richarddiaz2226 then the 2021 TCR is what you are looking for.
The new rims have great hubs too btw.
Where you guys from?
In the foothills of North Carolina!
Still prefer the bianchi sprint over this?
Looks better, but weighs a ton!
Nice roads. Where is this located?
It's right outside of Charlotte, NC
@@MossieRidesBikes Thanks for the great video on my future bicycle! :-)
Was the power meter accurate?
I didn't focus on the power meter but it seems to be just as accurate as my 4iii that I have been using for the past year. I do like that it's rechargable 😄
Mossie Rides Bikes if you can make another video of you riding this bike again. I do enjoy watching this bike. I will get it soon they release it 🤞🏻🤞🏻
"ccr" Totally want this frameset.
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what's the weight?
Those cables are just in a ugly spot. Was better on the previous version.
It is right at 16lbs. I actually shortened the cables up a little bit and it looks much nicer. That's my only gripe with the bike so far
Freidns just got his M size. Changed to a lighter saddle with 2 Elite bottle cages and meter mount came up to 17.2lbs . No pedal.
Those are some large back packs! Good bye aero gains.
You know it!!
Why on earth are they carrying those?
No reason why rim brake cannot have through axles!
Those cockpit cables are a bit mess.
What ppl see: men speed group ride.
What ppl hear: girly scream.
..Haha.. kidding. Great share👍👍