BEST VERSION OF FURY BEATS USYK! 👀 Simon Jordan & George Groves DEBATE who wins in Fury v Usyk!

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  • @fergusstevenston8409
    @fergusstevenston8409 Pƙed 16 dny +169

    People talking like Usyk is five foot tall and Tyson is eight foot!! It’s a few inches!!!!!

    • @lordfarquard9902
      @lordfarquard9902 Pƙed 16 dny +15

      Half a foot is still quite a lot of height difference

    • @brianlafev4261
      @brianlafev4261 Pƙed 16 dny +12

      7 inches in reach is huge!

    • @ST-ge4hh
      @ST-ge4hh Pƙed 16 dny +4

      BREAKING: Fights been CANCELLED again! Damn.

    • @brianlafev4261
      @brianlafev4261 Pƙed 16 dny +15

      @@ST-ge4hh bore off, kid.

    • @ST-ge4hh
      @ST-ge4hh Pƙed 16 dny

      @@brianlafev4261 bore off? is that chave speak?

  • @paradox6945
    @paradox6945 Pƙed 16 dny +115

    It amazes me how much Usyk is disrespected. So underappreciated.

    • @oharebatov
      @oharebatov Pƙed 15 dny +6

      I love both fighters. Usyk is sensational. I tipped him to beat Joshua twice to my friends and they laughed at me. Usyk is incredible. Fury is great too... Whoever gets it done is the man

    • @hullcityafc72
      @hullcityafc72 Pƙed 15 dny +3

      He isn't by boxers though. A lot of British pundits pick Fury and paper over the cracks. They both have irregular patterns and punch timing, Usyk varies his power, he'll go flick-hard-flick etc... he's more mobile and pivots, and he'll be in and out of range before Fury can tag him. I think Usyk will tire Fury out late on by round 10 and win on points. Maybe even a split decision as there is usually controversy in pro boxing

    • @rooibaard365
      @rooibaard365 Pƙed 15 dny +1

      ​@@hullcityafc72I see this happening too, but Joshua and Dubois did manage to connect on Usyk, not hurt or tagged him, but connect and I think Fury is more capable than them in terms of boxing. Fury usually adapts and finds a way to win.

    • @bladerunner16
      @bladerunner16 Pƙed 14 dny

      Only biased UK pundits think that.

    • @stevephantom.
      @stevephantom. Pƙed 11 dny +1

      It amazes me how much Tyson fury is disrespected and under appreciated in his own country. Both fantastic fighters. Amazing careers. 2 unbeaten fighters. All the belts to the winner đŸ„‡. Best heavyweight fight in 20 years. Best of health to both fighters 👍👍👍

  • @jakoflynn2560
    @jakoflynn2560 Pƙed 16 dny +50

    Usyk beat the Juggernaut and AJ why are we even still talking size? It’s talent dedication speed snd endurance and he wins on all counts

    • @jamiejosh96
      @jamiejosh96 Pƙed 15 dny +4

      The worrying thing is you have likes and what you said is wrong, he hasn’t even fought Joe Joyce

    • @rohitchakravorty7365
      @rohitchakravorty7365 Pƙed 15 dny +2

      ​@@jamiejosh96I think he means when usyk beat Joyce pretty easily in the wsb although that was only 5 rounds so I'm not sure how much stock you can put into that

    • @jamiejosh96
      @jamiejosh96 Pƙed 15 dny +2

      @@rohitchakravorty7365 which is irrelevant. Amateurs is basically a different sport, for example usyk lost to Shawn porter in the amateurs
.
      Yes that’s right Shawn porter

    • @jakoflynn2560
      @jakoflynn2560 Pƙed 15 dny

      @@jamiejosh96 yes he did you are not across your brief in sufficient depth and therefore may have missed the data point

    • @jamiejosh96
      @jamiejosh96 Pƙed 15 dny +1

      @@jakoflynn2560 okay now reword that so it makes some kind of sense

  • @elecelec5581
    @elecelec5581 Pƙed 16 dny +19

    The excuses are already coming from the Fury fans đŸ™‹â€â™‚ïž

    • @lordfarquard9902
      @lordfarquard9902 Pƙed 16 dny

      I can’t see a single comment from fury fans? Lol does he even have fans?
      Just a bunch of sheep licking Usyks crack!

  • @pelseynzenze8415
    @pelseynzenze8415 Pƙed 16 dny +31

    So Usyk can’t win?? If he beats Fury, it wasn’t the best version of Fury? Such BS. Most times boxers lose, they don’t look their best.

    • @thebigdogg2866
      @thebigdogg2866 Pƙed 15 dny +1

      I know the media trying very hard to make sure people think fury is better than usyk 😂

    • @philipford3921
      @philipford3921 Pƙed 15 dny +1

      Perfect point. Fury held that belt hostage. 3 title defences in 4 years. 2 of em against people he’s beat before. Where does this hype come from?

    • @thebigdogg2866
      @thebigdogg2866 Pƙed 15 dny

      @@philipford3921 exactly no one else get so much credit for beating past opponents 😂😂

  • @t.f.1345
    @t.f.1345 Pƙed 16 dny +98

    Comparing whytes and wilders skils to usyk just shows how clueless simon jordan is. The term 'best version of fury beats usyk' is the preperation for the excuse in case usyk schools Fury. Then everyone will say tyson fury is past his best.

  • @dman9152
    @dman9152 Pƙed 16 dny +126

    Fury's only advantage is size, usyk is a more skilled boxer.

    • @DirtyJamesUK
      @DirtyJamesUK Pƙed 16 dny +5

      Size isn't always an advantage. Usyk should be able to use it against him.

    • @CM-fl9cu
      @CM-fl9cu Pƙed 16 dny +12

      WTF are you on about
      You all forgot how good Fury actually is
      Skills pay the bills -Fury got the skills
      Billy Joe one of the most skillful boxers out there
      When you go to the Elite Level it takes a lot more than skill
      You got to have the dog in you.
      Canelo showed Billy Joe this
      Fury is gonna show Usyk this.
      Whats all this Usyk done it on away soil
      Fury has done it all on away soil.

    • @CM-fl9cu
      @CM-fl9cu Pƙed 16 dny

      Daniel gave usyk a little body shot
      I didnt see no dog
      I saw a pussy

    • @tomherbert2361
      @tomherbert2361 Pƙed 16 dny +16

      ​@@CM-fl9cuIf you think that Usyk lacks grit then you know nothing about the man!

    • @JohnGotti__
      @JohnGotti__ Pƙed 16 dny +16

      @@CM-fl9cu Fury's skills not ever near of Usyk's skills. It's not in the same universe.

  • @unknownx2k7
    @unknownx2k7 Pƙed 16 dny +57

    Why is simon interrupting

    • @Internettoughguy547
      @Internettoughguy547 Pƙed 16 dny +7

      Because someone does not agree with him

    • @dontbewoke
      @dontbewoke Pƙed 16 dny

      Because he's a rude prick , didnt u know?

    • @totalprecisioncarpenter5922
      @totalprecisioncarpenter5922 Pƙed 15 dny +8

      It’s how Simon thinks he wins a discussion

    • @drtq9
      @drtq9 Pƙed 13 dny +3

      Because he’s a nob

    • @CNS1908
      @CNS1908 Pƙed 8 dny +1

      People have seen through Simon and his ability to use big words to cover the fact that he knows nothing or is beyond bias. Either way, it’s poor to see.

  • @jamesfretwell1511
    @jamesfretwell1511 Pƙed 16 dny +38

    Simon's got zero boxing knowledge. He just repeats what all the other fury fanboys say. Furys fought one elite fighter in his career, but the fact is he beat him at the end of his career, and didnt give him the rematch to prove it wasn't a one off. Wilder is as overrated a fighter as you can get, so all those raiting Furys performances against wilder should check wilders resume first. Hes fought a load of guys he was always ment to knockout.

    • @lordfarquard9902
      @lordfarquard9902 Pƙed 16 dny +4

      If Whyte isn’t elite then where does that put AJ Cv? (Whyte is his second best win ever)
      Has he also only beat 1 elite fighter and that’s the same one fury beat but even further into his pension years? Haha

    • @dontbewoke
      @dontbewoke Pƙed 16 dny

      He wasn't talking about AJ ; why r u assuming he's interested?@@lordfarquard9902

    • @saintpepsi8602
      @saintpepsi8602 Pƙed 16 dny +2

      @@lordfarquard9902 not true AJ's second best win would be Povetkin not Whyte, with how Parker has revived his career he would be AJ's third best win, Ruiz 4th, Pulev 5th and Whyte probably his 6th best win at this point AJ overall has fought more top names then Fury who has only fought Klit,Wilder X3,Whyte (who AJ knocked out first then was knocked out by Povetkin before Fury fought him), and Cunningham
      Furys resume in terms of top quality names fought is very thin in comparison yes Fury has the two "bigger" wins but overall hasnt fought as high of an opposition

    • @lordfarquard9902
      @lordfarquard9902 Pƙed 16 dny

      @@saintpepsi8602 How? Povetkin was like 40 when he fought AJ and he only beat Whyte with a punch from the gods in the first fight, got obliterated in the second fight.
      I agree maybe with Joseph “Tyson Fury is the best of all time” Parker being in the mix for top 3 opponents though.
      But you won’t find a bigger Fury kiss ass in your life than that guy!

    • @antiplouc
      @antiplouc Pƙed 15 dny

      @@saintpepsi8602 Povetkin ahahahahhahahahha cmon man.....

  • @avfc1985
    @avfc1985 Pƙed 16 dny +73

    I hope Usyk wins. Lost patience with Fury's antics over the past few years!

    • @Broccoli31256
      @Broccoli31256 Pƙed 16 dny +6

      You’re a casual who jumps on the bandwagon

    • @avfc1985
      @avfc1985 Pƙed 16 dny +8

      @@Broccoli31256 What makes you such an expert over everyone else then?

    • @Phuqarf
      @Phuqarf Pƙed 16 dny +12

      @@Broccoli31256you sound like the casual, at least this guy gave an opinion and support it with reason

    • @avfc1985
      @avfc1985 Pƙed 16 dny +1

      @@Phuqarf 👍

    • @michaelthompson3286
      @michaelthompson3286 Pƙed 15 dny +1

      ​@@Broccoli31256 Hardly a bandwagon at this point.

  • @buriedrythmes9179
    @buriedrythmes9179 Pƙed 16 dny +49

    Uysk wins everyday, fury can't cheat his way out of this one.

    • @davidhoban3825
      @davidhoban3825 Pƙed 16 dny +5

      With Mr Turki always cheering Fury on and the clamour for a Fury Vs AJ fight I'm not so sure. Sorta think Usyk needs a KO just to get a draw

    • @lukas_jay243
      @lukas_jay243 Pƙed 16 dny +5

      Fury a cheat? You saw Usyks last fight right? Are you people on denial. This Usyk guy rolled around on the floor like a dog feigning a low blow!!
      For real you people are strange.

    • @wezist
      @wezist Pƙed 16 dny +3

      Usyk is a known cheat, Tyson batters him

    • @dolbysflooringguidance1393
      @dolbysflooringguidance1393 Pƙed 16 dny +4

      @@wezistreally Usyk. Cheat did u see the elbow fury threw at Francis nganou coz he couldn’t put a dent in his pmsl cmon mate 😂

    • @George-lg7ex
      @George-lg7ex Pƙed 16 dny +5

      Usyk was clearly hit with a low blow. If you disagree, please research the rules of boxing

  • @luke-tm3ef
    @luke-tm3ef Pƙed 16 dny +6

    Groves was a great servant to British boxing and a great bloke

  • @wilsont6303
    @wilsont6303 Pƙed 16 dny +99

    Simon knows f all

    • @jamesfretwell1511
      @jamesfretwell1511 Pƙed 16 dny +15

      Its ridiculous how he makes these statements like they are proven facts. When he said "the best version of fury beats Usyk all day long" he says it like his opinion cant be challenged. That is just pure arrogance, and sums simon up to a tee.

    • @Andrew-is7rs
      @Andrew-is7rs Pƙed 16 dny +2

      @@jamesfretwell1511
      No not really when that is the overwhelming consensus in boxing.
      Fury is regarded as the no.1 hw on the planet, he has everything Usyk has and can do, plus he can fight southpaw, Blackfoot as well. Is several stone heavier, is half a foot taller, has an enormous reach advantage coupled with the best jab in the hw division and has just as good ring and boxing iq as Usyk and can also have a tear up .. Usyk cannot.
      But yeah apart from all that Jordan knows nothing about


    • @G22865
      @G22865 Pƙed 16 dny +1

      Bookies have even odds. Its not overwhelming in anyone's favour

    • @j2thebee
      @j2thebee Pƙed 16 dny +2

      @@G22865 the odds the bookies give are dependant on how much the money the punters bet on a given fighter also

    • @lordfarquard9902
      @lordfarquard9902 Pƙed 16 dny +1

      @@j2thebeeThey’ve bet millions on Usyk because he used to be 13/8 and Fury 2/5

  • @jordanharrison8454
    @jordanharrison8454 Pƙed 16 dny +19

    The best version Fury is a myth in boxing. The guy is a big lump who leans on people for 12 rounds and had to rely on PEDs to do anything in his career.
    By far the most overrated boxer the sport has ever seen.
    If Usyk has anything left in him he will beat Fury with complete ease.

    • @Lakey79373
      @Lakey79373 Pƙed 16 dny +1

      The most overated boxer the sport has ever seen ??? You haven't watched much boxing then if furys is the worst 😂😂

    • @CS-pl8fc
      @CS-pl8fc Pƙed 16 dny +6

      ​@@Lakey79373he didn't say he's the worst. He said he's the most overrated, which he is.

    • @AKinthesouth
      @AKinthesouth Pƙed 16 dny

      Agreed

    • @Lakey79373
      @Lakey79373 Pƙed 16 dny +1

      @@CS-pl8fc so tyson is the most overated boxer in history? 147 years he's the most overated?? That looks just hate

    • @CS-pl8fc
      @CS-pl8fc Pƙed 16 dny +3

      @@Lakey79373 people claim he is the goat, and the only decent win on his record is against a 40 year old man, 9 months after he tested positive for anabolic steroids. I think most overrated is pretty fitting all things considered.
      Who do you think is more overrated?

  • @johnwarrior7009
    @johnwarrior7009 Pƙed 16 dny +12

    The best version of Fury cannot beat the worst version of Usyk. Too many premade excuses for a Fury loss.

    • @Gazza75
      @Gazza75 Pƙed 16 dny +3

      Usyk is a boxing GOD in your eyes after he smashed Joshua twice in a row. 😂

    • @johnwarrior7009
      @johnwarrior7009 Pƙed 16 dny +2

      @@Gazza75 when he smashes Fury to bits, maybe you will get my point.

    • @arronfifajanes08
      @arronfifajanes08 Pƙed 16 dny +3

      He lost to dubious if the ref done his job

    • @carlt9265
      @carlt9265 Pƙed 15 dny

      @@arronfifajanes08lmfao it was a low blow you div it was proven with an appeal

  • @adamak4749
    @adamak4749 Pƙed 16 dny +104

    Tyson Fury is one of the most overrated fighters in recent history. He has only beat one elite fighter in his entire career and that was a 40yr old washed up klitschko! Where he fought scared and according to punch stats landed 7 punches a round 6 of which were jabs. Fury then DUCKED the rematch. And then got caught taking steroids but played it off as a mental health hiatus at the same time.
    He then came back after his ‘retirement’ and is glorified for beating Deontay wilder who is arguably the least skilled champion in the entire history of boxing. Wilder is terrible skill wise and has only ever faced two good fighters and lost to both of them. Deontay started boxing in his 20s and weighed 45lbs less than fury! That’s the same weight difference as lomachenko against Beterbiev!!! Fury’s wins over wilder are not impressive. Wilder is not only one of the worst champions in the history of boxing but he was also seriously undersized against fury. So what’s impressive about it?
    Fury looked terrible in the second and third fights against wilder. He looked sloppy. Even the first fight isn’t as impressive after joe Parker beat him more convincingly. Fury is a conman!!

    • @DavidGoldX
      @DavidGoldX Pƙed 16 dny +9

      Absolutely overrated

    • @SilverbackMatt
      @SilverbackMatt Pƙed 16 dny +6

      He's beat 34 and 1x draw, what else do you want?

    • @tonywhitby8602
      @tonywhitby8602 Pƙed 16 dny +2

      I am surprised you was able to keep your tongue out of AJ's helmet long enough to write that complete and utter rubbish you just posted.

    • @seanallen9544
      @seanallen9544 Pƙed 16 dny +4

      Wow totally agree

    • @jimreaper1337
      @jimreaper1337 Pƙed 16 dny

      Lol, here come the sheeple with the latest script... These same mugs tried to claim Fury was scared of Dillian Whyte, who was going to expose Fury, befote that Fury was scared of Wilder, Wilder was going to flatten and expose Fury,
      Now Fury is scared of Usyk and Usyk is going to beat Fury up and expose him!!
      You clowns are hilarious 😂

  • @atikurrahman9304
    @atikurrahman9304 Pƙed 16 dny +47

    Groves is a top bloke

    • @El_terrible1985
      @El_terrible1985 Pƙed 16 dny +2

      He’s a fury hater do.

    • @rooibaard365
      @rooibaard365 Pƙed 15 dny

      He fell on his own leg Infront of 80 thousand fans at Wembley.

    • @rooibaard365
      @rooibaard365 Pƙed 15 dny

      He's a right Muppet if you ask me. I respect him for trying, but Froch punished him badly.

  • @fearassassin5207
    @fearassassin5207 Pƙed 16 dny +8

    Debate it when they are in the ring theres still no garentee fury will turn up 😂

  • @cosmicjack1215
    @cosmicjack1215 Pƙed 16 dny +29

    Simon talks about fury like he's a all time great, really doesn't know what he's looking atđŸ€Ł

    • @boxingmonthly
      @boxingmonthly Pƙed 15 dny +1

      he is

    • @cosmicjack1215
      @cosmicjack1215 Pƙed 15 dny +2

      @@boxingmonthly 6 world title fights only.
      1 against a aging Vlad who ruled over a weak division and was not as good as Vitalli. fury then popped for Peds anyway and didn't honour the rematch. Not exactly epic stuff.
      3 against wilder the most hyped and padded one trick poney in history who dodged unification at every turn to cherry pick and who's best win was against an ancient Ortiz who isn't exactly top tier is he and he was losing.
      1 against Whyte who was never great and was on the decline as well having just got sparked by an over the hill povetkin and going life and death with Chisora.
      1 against Chisora, do I have to say anything really?
      So tell me other than collecting as many belts and stat records he could, where is he actually great let alone a all time great, answers on a post card?

    • @delanodegenie6970
      @delanodegenie6970 Pƙed 15 dny

      ​@@boxingmonthly 😂😂😂 No he's not

    • @boxingmonthly
      @boxingmonthly Pƙed 15 dny

      @@delanodegenie6970 Says who

    • @delanodegenie6970
      @delanodegenie6970 Pƙed 15 dny

      @@boxingmonthly Says the facts...

  • @sizzla10
    @sizzla10 Pƙed 16 dny +30

    Usyk 4 the win

  • @Elliott-fp9sg
    @Elliott-fp9sg Pƙed 16 dny +26

    The best version Usyk beats the best version of Fury. There is no better natural boxer in the world at the moment than Usyk

    • @orangerelram1982
      @orangerelram1982 Pƙed 16 dny +14

      The best version of Tyson Fury beats usyk

    • @Big-Al-100
      @Big-Al-100 Pƙed 16 dny +4

      Crawford is a better boxer than Usyk so there’s one.

    • @j2thebee
      @j2thebee Pƙed 16 dny

      @@Big-Al-100 he wouldnt be able to beat Usyk though would he 🙃

    • @lordfarquard9902
      @lordfarquard9902 Pƙed 16 dny +3

      @@j2thebeeYeah he wouldn’t, too small. Usyk vs Fury is the exact same thing.

    • @Oscar-ei3de
      @Oscar-ei3de Pƙed 16 dny +2

      It isn’t the same because Usyk isn’t as small as everyone is pretending and he has proven himself against a giant in AJ

  • @Jimmy-2-Times
    @Jimmy-2-Times Pƙed 16 dny +3

    "Carl Crotch"
    ~Martin O'Neil 😂

  • @micp327
    @micp327 Pƙed 16 dny +19

    What on earth is Simon Jordan talking about? Let it all be decided in the ring instead of fantasising about it. Fury is younger than Usyk and much the bigger man. There can't really be any excuses. Especially as Fury has struggled against much lesser opponents. If Usyk wins - he's simply the better fighter.

  • @hendrix9087
    @hendrix9087 Pƙed 16 dny +10

    fury =🩆

  • @BigStuCorby.
    @BigStuCorby. Pƙed 16 dny +17

    Keep an eye on those judges scorecards. Just hope Usyk gets a fair fight out there. Fury will definitely be favoured.

  • @t-rex8166
    @t-rex8166 Pƙed 16 dny +5

    In terms of boxing ability, you were far better then froch. But we know how that turned out for you George

  • @MichaelKeating-rq1ke
    @MichaelKeating-rq1ke Pƙed 16 dny +14

    Tyson Fury to beat Usyk and become undisputed world champion is the biggest certainty of 2024

  • @israelisles5349
    @israelisles5349 Pƙed 16 dny +22

    Everyone is gona be surprised ( apart from a few including myself ) at how easy Usyk is going to make this look . You’re going to see how uncoordinated, clumsy and slow fury actually is in this fight . I’m a Brit and have absolutely no agenda here but this fight is going to be like Spence vs Crawford .

    • @lordfarquard9902
      @lordfarquard9902 Pƙed 16 dny +3

      Nobody will be surprised if Usyk does as you say.
      99.9% of the boxing world give Fury absolutely no chance of beating Usyk.

    • @jamielynch8947
      @jamielynch8947 Pƙed 16 dny +2

      Spot on assessment, I couldn't agree more. I don't see this as being close, Usyk will piece him up the entire fight and get the late stoppage

    • @israelisles5349
      @israelisles5349 Pƙed 16 dny

      ⁠​⁠​⁠@@lordfarquard9902I clearly said everyone is gona be surprised how EASY it will be not that he’d win
      And the betting suggests otherwise not the 99% of the “boxing world” you claim thinking Usyk will win . I hope I’ve clarified this for you

    • @israelisles5349
      @israelisles5349 Pƙed 16 dny +3

      @@jamielynch8947Agree I can see a late stoppage too , Usyk has more than enough punching power to hurt and put fury down .

    • @lordfarquard9902
      @lordfarquard9902 Pƙed 16 dny

      @@israelisles5349 The betting suggest otherwise? Do you know how betting works?
      Usyk opened at 13/8 and is now evens
      Fury opened at 2/5 and is now evens
      Usyk has taken literally ALL money.
      Nobody is going to be surprised if Usyk wiped the floor with him from start to finish because that’s what everyone is expecting.
      Do you not read all these comments laughing at fury’s chances?

  • @Tchafsir
    @Tchafsir Pƙed 16 dny +19

    Usyk will make this look easy. It's gonna be the heavyweight version of Spence Crawford. Fury won't be able to handle Usyk's movement, trust me on that.

    • @israelisles5349
      @israelisles5349 Pƙed 16 dny

      Snap 😂 I’ve just seen this

    • @Tchafsir
      @Tchafsir Pƙed 16 dny

      @@israelisles5349 May 18th, don't hide

    • @israelisles5349
      @israelisles5349 Pƙed 16 dny

      @@Tchafsirtell fury to make sure he turns up 😂 I just hope the best man wins with no controversy

    • @TheKnowledge1
      @TheKnowledge1 Pƙed 16 dny

      Handle his movement? He confuses himself spinning around all the time makes himself dizzy

    • @wezist
      @wezist Pƙed 16 dny

      Nope , Usyk is finished....
      Nothing Usyk can do about it....

  • @Maroon498
    @Maroon498 Pƙed 16 dny +4

    Usyk wins against any version of Fury.
    Usyk is the best.
    Usyk wins.

    • @wezist
      @wezist Pƙed 16 dny +1

      Usyk isn't very good at heavyweight đŸ€·â€â™‚ïž

  • @PrivateGringo
    @PrivateGringo Pƙed 16 dny +4

    Fury has NEVER looked good - he's just bigger than everyone else.
    Usyk is pure class in comparison...

    • @user-zr3sb6gz8g
      @user-zr3sb6gz8g Pƙed 16 dny

      He has looked good in a few fights you can’t say he’s not a skilled boxer usyk beats him though

  • @KMD-qj1qc
    @KMD-qj1qc Pƙed 15 dny +2

    This people are so delusional, Fury is good but Usyk’s one of the best cruiser weights of all time

  • @DavidGoldX
    @DavidGoldX Pƙed 16 dny +28

    When Usyk beats Fury, the narrative will be Fury wasn’t at his best SMH

    • @Terry_Champ
      @Terry_Champ Pƙed 16 dny +5

      When Fury beats Usyk the narrative will be Usyk wasn't at his best SMH

    • @lordfarquard9902
      @lordfarquard9902 Pƙed 16 dny +2

      I’m coming back to see your narrative when the inevitable Fury win happens.

    • @azc29103
      @azc29103 Pƙed 16 dny

      I know and that’s a shame because it’s an insult to how good Usyk is

    • @DavidGoldX
      @DavidGoldX Pƙed 16 dny +1

      @@lordfarquard9902 Enevitable? đŸ˜‚đŸ€Ł I hope you’re putting your whole mouth’s salary and your savings on Fury since it’s inevitable.

    • @HisExcellencyB
      @HisExcellencyB Pƙed 16 dny

      ​@@DavidGoldXput yours on Usyk. You might be able to make rent that month flyer boy 😂😂

  • @BlackHoon
    @BlackHoon Pƙed 16 dny +2

    Usyk is way more skilled than Fury, hes going to make Fury look clumsy

  • @redblacktichy7713
    @redblacktichy7713 Pƙed 16 dny +7

    Best version of Usyk beats Fury, but he is already 37,very old

    • @lordfarquard9902
      @lordfarquard9902 Pƙed 16 dny +6

      Fury had years out the ring ballooned in weight over 30 stone and spent his time snorting dust.
      I think it’s safe to say the “usyk was too old” excuse is meaningless for this one 😂

    • @Gazza75
      @Gazza75 Pƙed 16 dny +1

      36 vs. 37 is such a big age gap.đŸ€Ą

    • @redblacktichy7713
      @redblacktichy7713 Pƙed 15 dny +1

      @@Gazza75 37 is very old for a fighter who uses the speed and footwork the most like Usyk. Use your brain, mate, 🧠

    • @caseypage7856
      @caseypage7856 Pƙed 15 dny +1

      ​@@redblacktichy7713you're wasting your time, anyone who doesn't know that, doesn't know boxing.

  • @andrewb2475
    @andrewb2475 Pƙed 16 dny +4

    I gotta gree with George and say Usyk wins, he absloutely schooled AJ twice!

    • @rooibaard365
      @rooibaard365 Pƙed 15 dny

      Are you for real? 😂😂😂😂 Perfect example of a casual. Do yourself a favour and go watch Whyte Vs AJ. Notice how close it is and Joshua getting tagged. Then watch Fury Vs Whyte and notice how Fury totally outboxes Whyte and doesn't almost get touched. Joshua and Fury on different levels skill wise. Fury light years ahead.

    • @andrewb2475
      @andrewb2475 Pƙed 15 dny

      @@rooibaard365 Yeh and I'm guessing you're a self proclaimed hardcore boxing fan, total bs! George Groves knows more about boxing than you'll ever know because you know sweet f*ck all.

  • @Kontakt13
    @Kontakt13 Pƙed 16 dny +3

    The best version of Fury won't even make it competitive. He's never fought anyone on Usyks level. Fury is going to be exposed.

    • @TheKnowledge1
      @TheKnowledge1 Pƙed 16 dny

      Won’t be competitive? But Derek Chisora nearly got a draw against him 😂

    • @Kontakt13
      @Kontakt13 Pƙed 16 dny +1

      @@TheKnowledge1 You're delusional. Usyk boxed Chisoras ears off. Go watch the fight again.

    • @TheKnowledge1
      @TheKnowledge1 Pƙed 16 dny

      @@Kontakt13 2 judges had it 115-113 haha. Chisora can’t lay a glove on Fury. There’s heavyweights then there’s superheavyweights mate don’t worry about it

  • @alexanderwhyte4952
    @alexanderwhyte4952 Pƙed 16 dny +3

    It's time tyson fury fights a good fighter because he never has

  • @simonhh
    @simonhh Pƙed 16 dny +5

    People pretending Usyk can never get him. Conveniently forgetting he had a 50-50 with Del Boy Chisora đŸ€ŁđŸ€Ł

    • @simonhh
      @simonhh Pƙed 16 dny

      @@dman9152 He was mandatory.

    • @dman9152
      @dman9152 Pƙed 16 dny

      Yea mandatory for the wbo title, my mistake. Aj could of vacated that title.

    • @simonhh
      @simonhh Pƙed 16 dny

      @dman9152 He could have yeah, but that would have ruined the whole "Road to Undisputed" storyline they had built up for so long.
      If he used his physical attributes he would have won. Instead he gave up every advantage he had and accepted a points loss đŸ€ŁđŸ€Ł

    • @TheKnowledge1
      @TheKnowledge1 Pƙed 16 dny

      Exactly. And his first fight at heavyweight he wasn’t impressive against a bouncer

    • @hobbyrider3795
      @hobbyrider3795 Pƙed 16 dny

      Better than a 50-50 against an MMA fighter

  • @garyjohnson3751
    @garyjohnson3751 Pƙed 16 dny +4

    Groves has obviously taken one to many hits to the head! Fury has it all and size

  • @crisscaseflows
    @crisscaseflows Pƙed 16 dny +2

    Simon and Jim criminally underestimate Usyk, the ignorance is astounding

  • @lemmywinksgerbilking9958
    @lemmywinksgerbilking9958 Pƙed 16 dny +3

    I said it with Ryan garcia and I'm gonna say the same for fury...... everyone's gonna be in for a shock

  • @ralphthomson2680
    @ralphthomson2680 Pƙed 16 dny +3

    Who to listen to Simon Jordan, Gareth A Davies or ex world champions Duke McKenzie and George Groves???

  • @eltubster14
    @eltubster14 Pƙed 16 dny +4

    Simon's like the guy who thinks he's a horse racing expert because he went to the Grand National once.

    • @liamodonnell1472
      @liamodonnell1472 Pƙed 15 dny +1

      You sound bitter and jealous. He’s just a genuine boxing fan like the rest of us, but happens to be far more articulate and more intelligent than most - and people don’t like it.

    • @JB.924
      @JB.924 Pƙed 5 dny

      I agree Money as well makes people jealous the guy you replied to hates people having an opinion yet has his own and probably thinks is always right

  • @bazzoman510
    @bazzoman510 Pƙed 16 dny +5

    I see Fury putting on a legendary performance but still coming up short to Usyk on points.

  • @davidhoban3825
    @davidhoban3825 Pƙed 16 dny +2

    With Mr Turki always cheerleading Fury and the clamour for a Fury vs Aj fight, I'm fearing that Usyk needs a knockout just to get a draw.

  • @antonliburd1557
    @antonliburd1557 Pƙed 15 dny +1

    The way these talk sport ‘pundits’ ride usyk is unbelievable!

  • @j2thebee
    @j2thebee Pƙed 16 dny +4

    We've not seen the best version of Fury since klitschko, that was the last time he beat an elite fighter

    • @Craigyboi01
      @Craigyboi01 Pƙed 16 dny

      The vlad fury fought wasnt elite he was nearly 40

    • @j2thebee
      @j2thebee Pƙed 16 dny

      @@Craigyboi01 true, its the closest he has come to an elite fighter though until now!

    • @CS-pl8fc
      @CS-pl8fc Pƙed 16 dny +5

      He popped for steroids 9 months prior to the Klitschko fight too

  • @basicalen6122
    @basicalen6122 Pƙed 16 dny +1

    No version of Fury is even close to beating Usyk. Nah. Usyk is light years ahead of Fury.

  • @dontbewoke
    @dontbewoke Pƙed 16 dny +1

    I'm calling for Jordan to retire as a boxing "expert" when Usyk comprehensively outpoints Fury.....PLEASE!!

  • @captainhaddock6193
    @captainhaddock6193 Pƙed 16 dny +2

    'sensible wisdom says Fury is more than capable of boxing Usyk's head off' jesus wtf am I watching?

  • @justneedalogin
    @justneedalogin Pƙed 16 dny +2

    No version of Fury beats Usyk. Usyk has always been faster, more mobile, more agile, more skilled, with better ring IQ and ring generalship. And he is a southpaw. He is a horrible matchup for Fury, no wonder Fury ducked him for two years.

    • @Cbiz505
      @Cbiz505 Pƙed 7 dny +1

      You know boxing man!!

  • @jenthomas5746
    @jenthomas5746 Pƙed 15 dny +1

    Sick of hearing Fury went to Germany to fight klitschko, everyone went to Germany to fight klitschko when he was at the top cos America weren’t interested in klitschko and the way he fought. Klitschko fought Joshua in England cos he’d already lost to Fury by that time.

  • @Lennny197
    @Lennny197 Pƙed 15 dny

    Love listening too groves taking about boxing so much knowledge and was Sucha fighter 💯

  • @figaroconstantine
    @figaroconstantine Pƙed 16 dny +1

    The best version of Fury got tagged and dropped by boxers with far less skill than Usyk đŸ€·â€â™‚ïž..

  • @markhadden1397
    @markhadden1397 Pƙed 16 dny +1

    Just fast forward Simon speaking and listened to George

  • @oliverwilliamson5275
    @oliverwilliamson5275 Pƙed 16 dny +9

    "The best version of Fury beats Usyk all day?" Imagine giving no chance to a world and Olympic amateur champion with 335 wins; undisputed cruiserweight champion; and now unified heavyweight champion

    • @jimreaper1337
      @jimreaper1337 Pƙed 16 dny +3

      He's only Unified by beating 1 average boxer and picked up 4 straps!!
      Nobody is insulting Usyk's abilities, he's possibly the greatest cruiserweight to lace them up... But he's not a proper heavyweight, and Fury is much bigger, better quicker, sharper, faster, agile, longer & heavier than average heavyweights

    • @universesixhit642
      @universesixhit642 Pƙed 16 dny +3

      It's the sheer amount of fights usyk has that makes me know that usyk wins

    • @universesixhit642
      @universesixhit642 Pƙed 16 dny +4

      Fury is not quicker, agile or sharper

    • @jimreaper1337
      @jimreaper1337 Pƙed 16 dny +1

      @@universesixhit642 okay pal 👍

    • @rossj2410
      @rossj2410 Pƙed 16 dny +1

      @@jimreaper1337😂😂😂 what the f*** have you been watching. You’re in for a shock

  • @justinneill5003
    @justinneill5003 Pƙed 16 dny +1

    I’ve got Usyk for this one. It’s going to be a long hard night and Usyk will have his work but out to get past that long jab, and will need to be quick & slick to slip out of Fury’s attempts to lean all over him. But I just think the angles he creates, and his intense, unrelenting work rate coupled with his mobility and the speed and accuracy of his punches, will make the difference over the 12 rounds (I think a stoppage is unlikely.) I’m not buying into the vulnerable body thing, yes I’ve seen him wince from a body shot but I’ve also seen him take many other spiteful body shots in his stride. I’m not buying into Fury’s eye as a weak spot either.

  • @joshladd5073
    @joshladd5073 Pƙed 16 dny +3

    Usyk didn’t fight on any front line

  • @tallguy9425
    @tallguy9425 Pƙed 16 dny +1

    Talksport always talk Furys skill, size and mindset and once again Usyk barely gets a mention.

  • @RoadsideGee
    @RoadsideGee Pƙed 15 dny +1

    Is Simon going to refer to the Holyfield vs Bowe example everytime he talks about weight difference?
    What about ‘a few other examples’? I know who they are but I want him to tell us.

  • @user-mi9mw5wm5w
    @user-mi9mw5wm5w Pƙed 16 dny +2

    Usyk wins. It's not even a debate.
    Fury will resort to cheating during the fight as he is emarassed by Usyk, so expect low blows, lots of holding and pushing Usyk down in desperation. I can see Fury quitting if it gets to be too one sided and fake an injury.
    fury is shot. his legs have gone, his chin is suspect, and he just isn't a nimble fighter any more. He doesn't have true power; all his ko's have come through exhaustion, Wilder was so bad he was punched out in each fight by the 5th or 6th rounds and he just gases out. joshua hits way harder than Fury and Usyk didn't budge in those two fights. Dubois for all his limitations hits like a mule kick and we all know Usyks only weakness is body shots: personally i think that was a legit' knock down by Dubois and it sucked all th air out of Usyk, but again he got up and took over after that.
    Usyk isn't a judge or referee.
    I think the whole division can beat each other on any given night aside from Usyk who at the moment i'd favour over everyone.
    i think we won't see Usyk box beyond spring 2025 as he's 38 next birthday so I expect two wins over Fury then he hangs up the gloves, he would have done everything he intended to do at that would be the ultimate high to exit boxing from.
    Enjoy him while he is here.

    • @Oscar-ei3de
      @Oscar-ei3de Pƙed 16 dny

      And then the narrative will still change and people will argue that the big fights and the best v the best is yet to come and twist the plot to herald with Fury or AJ as the best of this hen after Usyk retires. I have no idea why this undisputed clash is being treated like some sort of semi final when it is clearly the final.

    • @wezist
      @wezist Pƙed 16 dny

      Silly talk.....
      Usyk can't do anything with Tyson

  • @trevorbutler4920
    @trevorbutler4920 Pƙed 16 dny +1

    Usyk is head and shoulders above Fury in boxing terms.

  • @scbcider79
    @scbcider79 Pƙed 16 dny

    Finally someone on Talk sport with an unbiased opinion!!
    Thank you George!! 👏

  • @pauldunning413
    @pauldunning413 Pƙed 16 dny +3

    Useyk will stop fury inside 7

    • @wezist
      @wezist Pƙed 16 dny +1

      Usyk couldn't stop the bus

  • @hendrix9087
    @hendrix9087 Pƙed 16 dny +4

    What does “best version of” actually mean? What a load of nonsense. This is not fantasy football Simon it is boxing

  • @PBas-qq4uh
    @PBas-qq4uh Pƙed 16 dny +8

    Usyk had 330 amateur fights, Tyson had 30, how has no one mentioned the difference in experience

    • @lordfarquard9902
      @lordfarquard9902 Pƙed 16 dny +2

      Maybe because he doesn’t have anywhere near as much experience at heavyweight (super heavyweight) so it evens itself out.

    • @PBas-qq4uh
      @PBas-qq4uh Pƙed 16 dny

      @@lordfarquard9902 Personally I think when you've had 300 fights your basically saenchai/ bukaw level of experience, if Fury wins I'll eat my words

    • @lordfarquard9902
      @lordfarquard9902 Pƙed 16 dny +1

      @@PBas-qq4uh What about lomachenko? He’s far more experienced and was 396-1 and got whooped by an idiot in Teofimo Lopez.
      So Usyk can’t lose because he’s 335-15.
      Using that logic Loma would have never been touched!

    • @PBas-qq4uh
      @PBas-qq4uh Pƙed 16 dny

      @@lordfarquard9902 Lopez had 150 amateur fights, golden glove champion, and boxed since he was five years old, your an idiot if you think that is something to take away from Lopez

    • @alexjenkins3472
      @alexjenkins3472 Pƙed 16 dny

      ​@lordfarquard9902 what logic? Lomachenko ended up well above his weight class fighting younger, much bigger guys. He didn't get whooped. It was a close fight

  • @JeffGoldblum2024
    @JeffGoldblum2024 Pƙed 15 dny +1

    Usyk did not go home to fight on the FRONT LINE. can we please stop peddling this? Its all very romantic but simply untrue

  • @Dan-nz5be
    @Dan-nz5be Pƙed 16 dny +2

    When fury wins all we will hear is usyk was too small blah blah blah and groves will be at the front of that que.

  • @MartinJamesLee.exboxer
    @MartinJamesLee.exboxer Pƙed 13 dny

    I need to point out something: a long jab for a big man against a seriously good small mover with elite lateral movement is incredibly tough and exhausting.
    BTW many fighters have hit fury and by passed his jab hence why he's been put down 7 times and hurt but they haven't been good enough to finish him

  • @craig0weston20
    @craig0weston20 Pƙed 16 dny

    It's really refreshing to see humility and George oozes it.

  • @alexandermurrell3518
    @alexandermurrell3518 Pƙed 16 dny +6

    Always been the away fighter? Has Groves forgotten that Dubois travelled to Poland for their fight.

    • @HuwEvans.
      @HuwEvans. Pƙed 16 dny +23

      He's been the away fighter in the last 11 out of 12 fights. I think it's a fair comment son.

    • @dsroa
      @dsroa Pƙed 16 dny +12

      Usyk isn’t from Poland either.

    • @jamesfretwell1511
      @jamesfretwell1511 Pƙed 16 dny +4

      What are you talking about? Usyk is from Ukraine not Poland, so both fighters were away fighters. Plus I think hes talking about beating champions in their backyards and that's exactly what Usyk has done throughout his professional career.

    • @AurelAvramescu
      @AurelAvramescu Pƙed 16 dny +1

      @@dsroa Is not, but it was considered the home fighter., but to be fair that was the only title fight that he was considered the home fighter.

    • @lordfarquard9902
      @lordfarquard9902 Pƙed 16 dny

      @@HuwEvans.LOL opposed to fighting in the middle of a war zone?
      15 likes 😂😂😂😂

  • @dontbewoke
    @dontbewoke Pƙed 16 dny +1

    Ex fighters Wardley Froch Groves and McKenzie all pick Usyk ; I'll have them over 2 blokes that have never fought in their lives thanks....

  • @antoniotorcoli5740
    @antoniotorcoli5740 Pƙed 16 dny +1

    The excuse is ready: if Usyk wins he did not beat Fury, but the worst version of him.

  • @GeorgeMaac
    @GeorgeMaac Pƙed 16 dny

    Simon does love his boxing as fellow expert Jim always reminds us đŸ„ŠđŸ„ŠđŸ„Š

  • @DMD82
    @DMD82 Pƙed 15 dny +1

    Wow, talksport really doesn't want to be banned from this fight do they 😂

  • @Padcast
    @Padcast Pƙed 15 dny

    Two talk show hosts telling a former world champion about boxing is hilarious.

  • @JohnFisherChoir
    @JohnFisherChoir Pƙed 16 dny +1

    Usyk is a better boxer than fury, I don’t think the size will make a big difference

  • @Bugsvstheworld
    @Bugsvstheworld Pƙed dnem

    Jim asked Simon “so your team fury” Simon’s reply I’ve always been a fan of George and Karl’s what’s he smoking haha

  • @louismaina8926
    @louismaina8926 Pƙed 16 dny +2

    Media narrative is already set to defend fury if he loses the fight... If usyk wins it won't be about usyk being the better fighter... It'll be because "fury wasn't at his best"

    • @spaghettilegs9882
      @spaghettilegs9882 Pƙed 16 dny

      Same as the Fury Vs Ngannou fight. Reality is that Fury is a complete hype job and has always avoided fast technical boxers with movement/footwork.

  • @user-oh3wc3vm2v
    @user-oh3wc3vm2v Pƙed 16 dny +2

    Usyk will be the best fighter Fury has ever fought. At Tyson’s best he’s beaten nobody world class and in their prime. We are gonna find out that Fury is a fake after usyk takes him to school.

    • @wezist
      @wezist Pƙed 16 dny

      Doubt it, easy fight for the Gypsy King

  • @azc29103
    @azc29103 Pƙed 16 dny

    The worst version of Usyk schools the best version of Fury

  • @Internettoughguy547
    @Internettoughguy547 Pƙed 16 dny +1

    Usyk travels everywhere and wins wouldn’t that make him the Gypsy King

  • @RussellFogg-ew1ju
    @RussellFogg-ew1ju Pƙed 16 dny

    Im more intrigued about the size difference between Groves and O neill, looks like Gandalf in Hobbit land

  • @niiwilson2521
    @niiwilson2521 Pƙed 16 dny +1

    This thing I don’t get is how these folk like to talk up Fury. The guys had 6 title fights his all career, 3 against the same guy who’s subsequently been shown up by Joseph Parker ! He’s had one mandatory defence of a title! How’s he this ‘generational great’!??

    • @belindalucas5468
      @belindalucas5468 Pƙed 13 dny

      *1. Firstly,* Parker is underrated and ohis only legit loss is vs Joyce. Robbed vs AJ and Whyte by bias referees.
      *2. Secondly,* Fury beat the fight out of Wilder and destroying him both physically, spiritually, and mentally. And styles make fights. That's how Parker won. Doesn't mean undefeated Wilder wouldn't have KOd Parker - or even that this version of Wilder can't beat AJ.
      *3. Thirdly,* Furys best wins are his wins vs Undefeated Active 10 Year Undefeated Klitschko + Undefeated Prime Wilder.
      *4. Fury schooled them both in their backyards.*
      *5.* And just like with Whyte and Chisora - *Klitschko and Wilder literally couldn't land a glove on Fury! He won EVERY round and left the ring totally unmarked!*
      *6.* With that being said - *name an Usyk win that was vs the same level of opponent where he was that dominant?*

  • @indeso261
    @indeso261 Pƙed 6 dny

    There is no version of a fighter if he wins or lose a fight that went to the distance.

  • @williampearson7186
    @williampearson7186 Pƙed 16 dny

    One of my favourite fighters

  • @Macefacewindu
    @Macefacewindu Pƙed 16 dny

    Mans just called Froch Croch ahaha

  • @larryjablinski3570
    @larryjablinski3570 Pƙed 6 dny

    Funny how fury has always been the favourite, until the ngannou fight. And yet all of a sudden loads of people are saying they "always favoured usyk"

  • @farindeeba543
    @farindeeba543 Pƙed 16 dny +1

    Fury will beat usyk comfortably and you’ll all eat your words. He’s clearly taking the fight seriously and is better than usyk in every department. Don’t even bother commenting just wait and see

  • @joewhite22
    @joewhite22 Pƙed 16 dny

    Nice to have someone on Talksport who isn't automatically pro-Fury in this fight for a change. Of course we know how Simon's boxing predictions usually go.

  • @Mike-Oxlong93
    @Mike-Oxlong93 Pƙed 15 dny

    "if we get the best Fury" Usyks older than Fury & more miles on the clock with a young man's style.

  • @cdd89
    @cdd89 Pƙed 16 dny +2

    Usyk wide points

  • @alexyeo6632
    @alexyeo6632 Pƙed 16 dny

    If Usyk beats Fury they’re going to have to put the whole Talk Sport team into PTSD counselling

  • @dontbewoke
    @dontbewoke Pƙed 16 dny

    George is one of the very best boxing pundits out there ; we need to hear more from him.

  • @wmurray689
    @wmurray689 Pƙed 16 dny +1

    As much as I like Simon, Usyk is different gravy. Crawford esque different gravy..

  • @NathanBuckley-hl4hk
    @NathanBuckley-hl4hk Pƙed 16 dny +1

    The best usyk beats the best fury in my opinion 😂😂😂

  • @stevephantom.
    @stevephantom. Pƙed 11 dny

    If Tyson has trained properly he will 💯 win. This will be great fight. Everyone should start getting behind Tyson and our country. When Tyson is gone, boxing đŸ„Š will miss him. Best of luck to Tyson fury. 👍👍 grate show everyone 👏👏👏

  • @nathanmitchell295
    @nathanmitchell295 Pƙed 16 dny

    “The best Tyson Fury beats Usyk all day”
    Such a casual comment, he needs to be the best version of Tyson Fury just to stand a chance of winning this fight.

  • @Mark_106
    @Mark_106 Pƙed 15 dny +1

    even tyson on his worst day beats usyk. Tyson will make it look easy!!