Commander, but First to Lose Wins! | Commander Clash S16 E26

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Komentáře • 528

  • @kurowasanabe
    @kurowasanabe Před 26 dny +810

    "All right, clash on!"
    "I concede"
    "GGs everyone!"

    • @devinkerr5474
      @devinkerr5474 Před 26 dny +14

      I was expecting Phage ramp

    • @SWAT6809
      @SWAT6809 Před 26 dny +6

      ​@@devinkerr5474same, how would you not just glass cannon phage and tutor for cavern of souls

  • @masonhaugen742
    @masonhaugen742 Před 23 dny +94

    This was really fun to watch. Next idea: everyone plays a "Group Hug" deck and the first person to make someone else "Win" wins the game.

    • @kuroninjaofshadows
      @kuroninjaofshadows Před 17 dny

      Yes! I vote this!

    • @HappleProductions
      @HappleProductions Před 8 dny +1

      Wouldn't this require making them win through alternate win cons? Usually, you win through elimination. I'm not that well-versed on random options in MTG. How many alternate win cons can target other players?

  • @crawdaddy2004
    @crawdaddy2004 Před 26 dny +330

    I love that Richard can’t use Slaughter Pact on the Abyssal Persecutor. 😂

    • @mashedmentality
      @mashedmentality Před 26 dny +17

      The way he played around it was great to see though.

    • @TheCodingle
      @TheCodingle Před 25 dny

      It's target non black creature I believe

  • @danpearman270
    @danpearman270 Před 26 dny +334

    Phil in normal EDH - infinite lands, infinite value, infinite card draw, zero interaction.
    Phil trying to lose - one land and a handful of counterspells...
    Do you think maybe he's trying to send a message to Crim?

  • @zacharymangen754
    @zacharymangen754 Před 26 dny +152

    Man that first game played out like a cedh game. All 4 player’s meaningfully interacted with each other a and little bit of stax.

  • @chips8623
    @chips8623 Před 26 dny +126

    that was actually way funnier than i expected. Do it again sometime but ban the pacts, to make it a *touch* harder.

    • @JDCSEagles
      @JDCSEagles Před 25 dny +7

      Ban the Pacts and any card that can pay life for free. You would have to remove the poltergeist, necro, etc. as well... even stuff like Lim Dul's Vault too. It would make it way more interesting...

  • @darushkii
    @darushkii Před 26 dny +205

    This is such a ludicrous concept. Just another reason why this is the best EDH gameplay series on CZcams!

    • @goldbergbrain
      @goldbergbrain Před 26 dny +11

      @@darushkii agreed. I'm an old player and regular EDH gets a little stale to me sometimes. This is the most fun I've had watching EDH in a long time. It'd be great for playgroups to build a deck like that just to pull out once a game night or something, mix it up

  • @MrMartinSchou
    @MrMartinSchou Před 26 dny +132

    A fun take on EDH. Another one is to have each player write down four alternate win conditions, shuffle all of them together, and then draw one each, keeping them secret until it's been met.

    • @andrewspears8891
      @andrewspears8891 Před 24 dny +1

      That sounds fun. Have you done it yourself? (And how did it go if so?)

    • @MrMartinSchou
      @MrMartinSchou Před 24 dny +1

      @@andrewspears8891 I am not fortunate enough to have a play group, so I haven't tried it.
      I am 99% certain I saw a video where a group was trying it out. Either that or a fever dream. I think one guy won by having a secret win condition of being the second player to die? Might have been a CardMarket video.

    • @BoltTheEmolga
      @BoltTheEmolga Před 24 dny +5

      @@MrMartinSchouIt was a Cardmarket video, the person won by completing the Kaldra equipment set and killing someone with it via combat damage. Think it was Jamin?

    • @Gretchaninov
      @Gretchaninov Před 18 dny

      I really like this idea.

  • @everett6072
    @everett6072 Před 26 dny +48

    Richard: "What do you mean you have a counterspell? You only has 2 cards in hand"
    Also Richard: "My last card in hand is a flusterstorm"

  • @FrackenKraken
    @FrackenKraken Před 26 dny +112

    Crim with the most incredible opening move. Truly the best Show and Tell ever

  • @CenJohan
    @CenJohan Před 26 dny +39

    “Ya’ll made me shuffle up and I didn’t even get to take my turn” I imagine that has been said multiple times across most Cedh tables.

    • @patarfuifui
      @patarfuifui Před 25 dny +1

      CEDH is often much slower as there's not a lot of 0 mana "win the game" cards like here.

    • @TheUrDragon25
      @TheUrDragon25 Před 23 dny +2

      More than 50% of cedh tournament games go to time (80 minutes)

    • @CenJohan
      @CenJohan Před 23 dny

      @@TheUrDragon25 that’s just a skill issue

    • @TheUrDragon25
      @TheUrDragon25 Před 23 dny

      @@CenJohan brian koval, sam black, and Brian cook among othets are all famous professional magic players who migrated to cedh. They do not have "skill issues"

    • @CenJohan
      @CenJohan Před 23 dny +1

      @@TheUrDragon25 that’s just like your opinion man

  • @tmain1320
    @tmain1320 Před 26 dny +30

    Crazy how this format is just basically cedh. Genuinely love it.

  • @VRanger100
    @VRanger100 Před 26 dny +203

    Abyssal Persecutor (2BB Flying, trample 6/6 You can’t win the game and your opponents can’t lose the game.": This is my time.

    • @kaemonbonet4931
      @kaemonbonet4931 Před 26 dny +6

      It paradoxes is all to death!

    • @mikov6486
      @mikov6486 Před 26 dny

      @@kaemonbonet4931It will send them into the Escher painting.

    • @kobisjeruk
      @kobisjeruk Před 26 dny

      Nobody expects the spanish inquisition!

    • @starmanda88
      @starmanda88 Před 26 dny +2

      This card was the card that made me fall in love with magic.

    • @thomgizziz
      @thomgizziz Před 21 dnem

      Isnt there a black creature card that exiles almost your whole library?

  • @mrbelbobaggins8959
    @mrbelbobaggins8959 Před 26 dny +66

    9:18 That floating mana card is sick!

    • @-homerow-
      @-homerow- Před 26 dny +2

      That is awesome! I will make a template

    • @Kristjan0209
      @Kristjan0209 Před 26 dny +1

      Yeah should make one as well

  • @anaphysik
    @anaphysik Před 26 dny +9

    This was very fun! I don't normally watch Commander Clash, but HAD to tune in for this silliness. You should consider iterating it some time in the future with a banlist -- e.g. 'anything that has already lost a game is banned for future games' would be an interesting baseline ban rule.

  • @Teurger
    @Teurger Před 26 dny +27

    Glorious.
    As potential wacky theme, I want to suggest "true pauper" - all cards are commons, including your non-legendary commander.

    • @CPForte
      @CPForte Před 26 dny +3

      Going from the last time they tried something similar that sounds like a horrible idea.

    • @babatazyah
      @babatazyah Před 26 dny +7

      They did Peasant commander once upon a time. Without rares, it's really hard to close out games. I don't think they had a good time with it.

    • @CPForte
      @CPForte Před 25 dny +6

      @@babatazyah They did pauper once with uncommon commanders. The game went for over 3 hours and was probably one of the most boring epsiodes of theirs ever. Games take forever if the best creature is a Gurmag angler.

    • @CPForte
      @CPForte Před 25 dny +2

      For the next season or two they occasionally brought that one up and sounded pretty traumatized whenever they did.

  • @ChuggaChoo
    @ChuggaChoo Před 26 dny +25

    Phil knows how to use Scryfall's regex and it shows. His decks are optimal and obscure!

    • @ricepresidents
      @ricepresidents Před 25 dny +2

      And yet he loses the most

    • @SpiralPlaysGames
      @SpiralPlaysGames Před 24 dny +2

      @ricepresidents On this season, sure. He has gained a reputation on clash for being a strong player in the pod, and the amount of caution everybody has when playing around him proves that.

  • @L2Barbian
    @L2Barbian Před 26 dny +28

    Incredibly interesting premise!
    I am sure this commander clash will be a banger again.

  • @jaysonking4055
    @jaysonking4055 Před 26 dny +12

    This is such a fun idea in love when you have a twist on how the game plays

  • @SmugLookingBarrel
    @SmugLookingBarrel Před 26 dny +39

    Honestly I think a version of this format where pacts and Hex Parasite were banned would actually be pretty interesting.

    • @ankhi3585
      @ankhi3585 Před 26 dny +16

      I don't know if it would have that much of an impact. You still have plenty of 1 and 2 mana ways to lose the game.

    • @EmbeJuicemazzopazzo
      @EmbeJuicemazzopazzo Před 26 dny +11

      @@ankhi3585 yeah probably thousands of cards saying "pay x life"

    • @TalonKarrde03
      @TalonKarrde03 Před 22 dny

      You would also need to ban phage the untouchable but just as a commander

    • @danl9030
      @danl9030 Před 22 dny

      @@TalonKarrde03 I don't think she'd be anywhere near that good. Getting to 7 mana isn't trivial, and being monocolor prevents access to a lot of alternative win (loss?) conditions.

    • @TalonKarrde03
      @TalonKarrde03 Před 22 dny

      @@danl9030 artifact ramp and rituals could get you there if you build right. Or discard her and reanimate. In the 99 it’s deadly entomb then any reanimate spell would get you a quick lose/win

  • @TheMarioPlayers
    @TheMarioPlayers Před 26 dny +4

    I love this! Next time, everyone should start with an Abyssal Persecutor and a Platinum Angel on the battlefield. That could lengthen the games and give everyone a challenging hurdle to jump over. 😆

  • @MentalCrusader
    @MentalCrusader Před 26 dny +18

    Custom rules are a very interesting idea

  • @discoviolenza1984
    @discoviolenza1984 Před 26 dny +530

    Should've banned the pacts for this week

    • @MentalCrusader
      @MentalCrusader Před 26 dny +25

      *Should have (the above comment was "Should of" at first, they corrected it, now mine doesn't make sense lol)

    • @corruptcobalt6492
      @corruptcobalt6492 Před 26 dny +167

      ​@@MentalCrusader should've is a real word and is correct in this context

    • @UncertainPrinciple
      @UncertainPrinciple Před 26 dny +26

      I think they are in the spirit of competitive self-destruction

    • @liamfoote7164
      @liamfoote7164 Před 26 dny +27

      I dunno this format is insanely broken, the pacts are just a part of it.

    • @PalPlays
      @PalPlays Před 26 dny +14

      Why ban the theme of this format...from this format?

  • @zeroisnine
    @zeroisnine Před 26 dny +19

    This was so much more fun than the typical 2 hour marathon

  • @Nathanael_Forlorn
    @Nathanael_Forlorn Před 23 dny +3

    13:28 seth really is a transformed man - he played his commander!

  • @blueblue485
    @blueblue485 Před 26 dny +4

    This was one of the most fun episodes I've watched, gotta do another one! Need to see a turn 0 "win" 😂

  • @Trav2900
    @Trav2900 Před 14 dny

    More of this kind of thing please! I don't think I've ever legitimately laughed out loud at a magic video as much as this one 😂

  • @ashsattva
    @ashsattva Před 26 dny +2

    You've always had such cool ideas for commander clash and great personalities. Switching from MTGO to a camera setup made your show watchable, so glad y'all did it :)

  • @robertbryce3225
    @robertbryce3225 Před 26 dny +2

    This episode is an instant classic! Easily one of my favourites, and i have watched them all. Well done guys

  • @007Bondo
    @007Bondo Před 10 dny +1

    19:40 Yes, Crim! You can respond to that! Revealing Chancellor creates a triggered ability that goes onto the stack prior to the first player's untap step.

  • @Larkinzzz
    @Larkinzzz Před 26 dny +16

    Here's another fun house rules episode idea: custom partner decks
    - have to pick 2 mono colored commanders of a different color
    - they can't have the partner ability already

  • @benjaminstonehocker5382
    @benjaminstonehocker5382 Před 23 dny +1

    I’m not normally one for watching non Cedh matches but this was highly entertaining, deeply hilarious and extremely interactive.
    It almost makes me want to ask my pod if we can each build a deck that’s trying to do the same.

  • @koolaiddude7685894
    @koolaiddude7685894 Před 26 dny +15

    Crim's turn one was truly a masterclass in gaming 😂😂

  • @randomaether
    @randomaether Před 26 dny +7

    I love how happy Crim is all throughout the video, this is amazing

  • @DedicatedCaffeineUser
    @DedicatedCaffeineUser Před 18 dny +1

    If you ever revisit this concept, I think it would be interesting to include an additional rule where all creatures attack and block each combat if able

  • @keithbrick
    @keithbrick Před 20 dny

    Delightful, creative, great interactions, and fun tech. Well done!

  • @IVIaskerade
    @IVIaskerade Před 17 dny

    That was an absolutely baller play from Richard to deal with the next player having 2 pact triggers on turn 2.

  • @darkwhiz223
    @darkwhiz223 Před 26 dny +5

    This is interesting, but maybe restrictions is need like you can pay only certain amount of life for activated abilities and no Pact

  • @thunderwolf188
    @thunderwolf188 Před 25 dny

    this was a blast!!! Loved the creative take on commander to spice things up

  • @lvfd6117
    @lvfd6117 Před 26 dny +4

    Finally a format that appeals to my play style!

  • @zacw8869
    @zacw8869 Před dnem +1

    19:40 there is a stack for pregame actions. I think he was thinking about caverns or the leylines, which do not cause a trigger because they "start in play" instead of being put in play, so you cant respond to them. You absolutely can respond to chancelors or providence.

  • @nickleeeeJ
    @nickleeeeJ Před 26 dny +2

    I could watch this format for hours.

  • @Varler_
    @Varler_ Před 26 dny +1

    This was actually really fun! And yeah, it felt a lot like cEDH.

  • @pedrolopesdeaquino
    @pedrolopesdeaquino Před 20 dny

    Loved the concept, hope y'all do some more of this type of clashes in the future

  • @coreysierchio4650
    @coreysierchio4650 Před 26 dny

    This episode tickled me so good.
    *Thanks for the Content!*

  • @javids.9537
    @javids.9537 Před 26 dny

    Great work, Goldfish Crew! It was such a fun video!

  • @JordanGrayson00
    @JordanGrayson00 Před 7 dny

    Really enjoyed this concept! Thanks for the video.

  • @RosebudAscendant
    @RosebudAscendant Před 26 dny +6

    Seth makes me so happy :o) He's such a warm presence :o)

  • @B3H1nd4ll
    @B3H1nd4ll Před 26 dny

    That was great theme for a video! Was super enjoyable to watch.

  • @time.5942
    @time.5942 Před 26 dny

    This was awesome! Definitely looking forward to more of these "special houserules" episodes!

  • @papamaples617
    @papamaples617 Před 26 dny

    This really was awesome. Great video guys!

  • @mikem574
    @mikem574 Před 26 dny

    I loved this. These were so fun to watch. Custom win cons are fun.

  • @Simplycoburn
    @Simplycoburn Před 26 dny +2

    I think we need to do this again but no pacts this time. Great episode

  • @t.kenneth5697
    @t.kenneth5697 Před 26 dny +1

    Love the new restrictions and rules as this show goes on, while some good vanilla commander is great I adore seeing this kind of creativity. Probably won’t be seen but I hope this boosts this video

  • @mikesutter3852
    @mikesutter3852 Před 26 dny

    Hilarious concept and really fun games to watch. I would definitely watch other ideas like this one!

  • @Laevus2321
    @Laevus2321 Před 26 dny

    Definitely enjoyed that one! It wasn't just that it was a good concept, but that you all had a great laugh while doing it. Made for a good change, so I'm all for random ideas like this now and again in future.

  • @Yauchy
    @Yauchy Před 25 dny

    I don't usually watch clash but this was a must watch. Keep up the goofy win conditions and the like, it is very entertaining.

  • @HComfy
    @HComfy Před 25 dny

    This was a fascinating watch. Super cool idea!

  • @billyhardin7401
    @billyhardin7401 Před 26 dny

    This episode was so much fun 🎉 I love the concept. Would be awesome to see more whacky commander games. Gonna suggest this theme for a game night for sure 👏👏

  • @lazarus845
    @lazarus845 Před 26 dny +4

    Phil could have won that game 2, if he'd realized that he could have played his Disrupting Shoal discarding the Force of Will, rather than the other way around. He can target any spell he wants, even if it has the wrong mana value. It just won't be countered. Assuming he already had the Hex Parasite in hand.

  • @STS-qi1qy
    @STS-qi1qy Před 25 dny

    Love this! We need more interesting twist games like this.

  • @ElDocBruh
    @ElDocBruh Před 26 dny

    That was a blast to watch. Really cool idea!

  • @mononuk
    @mononuk Před 23 dny

    This was really fun, would love more weird games like these!

  • @colecarmichael5724
    @colecarmichael5724 Před 26 dny +1

    This is a fantastic idea and was a blast to watch 😂😂😂😂

  • @djsona5428
    @djsona5428 Před 22 dny

    Woah game one had some WILD interaction and plays, I wish I could see more games like that.

  • @futurewerewolf2198
    @futurewerewolf2198 Před 23 dny

    This was hilarious, I'm definitely interested in more content like this

  • @WolfonMars1
    @WolfonMars1 Před 26 dny +13

    I'd love to see this again but with the pacts all banned.

  • @Infamouscritter
    @Infamouscritter Před 26 dny +2

    This made cEDH fun to watch literally. Felt like cEDH but with the losing aspect made it so much more intriguing to watch .. next time maybe ban the pacts see some turn two wins or later

  • @Eclipse8502
    @Eclipse8502 Před 26 dny +1

    This was so fun and hilarious to watch !

  • @alexduea
    @alexduea Před 25 dny +1

    I really liked this! What a fun idea

  • @scrappygandalf6024
    @scrappygandalf6024 Před 26 dny

    Ironically probably one of the best commander clash episodes!

  • @Ragwar
    @Ragwar Před 25 dny

    Great episode!!

  • @kimberly81612
    @kimberly81612 Před 26 dny

    What a fun week. It looked like you 4 genuinely enjoyed this.

  • @thespanishinquisiton8306
    @thespanishinquisiton8306 Před 26 dny +1

    This was really fun. More similar stuff please

  • @techheadnick
    @techheadnick Před 24 dny

    This was more fun that I expected. I think you should run this back but everyone begins the game with an abyssal persecutor in play.

  • @DiamondzFinder_
    @DiamondzFinder_ Před 25 dny

    Loving the creativity on this channel! Keep it up guys!

    • @DiamondzFinder_
      @DiamondzFinder_ Před 25 dny

      Also, I'd love to see how you might deckbuild so that you have to either be 2nd or 3rd place, like you don't want to lose first but you want to lose to first place.

  • @paulszki
    @paulszki Před 25 dny

    I was already in tears laughing watching the preview cards and then the Abyssal Persecutor completely killed me.

  • @moralessanchezoscarelias6412

    This was actually a lot more fun than I thought!

  • @mjb552
    @mjb552 Před 26 dny +1

    One of the best eps yet

  • @vincentaponte5726
    @vincentaponte5726 Před 25 dny

    This was glorious and I loved it.

  • @morganalley3093
    @morganalley3093 Před 25 dny

    This was super fun to watch

  • @lukusridley
    @lukusridley Před 24 dny

    oh my god crim just dropping the turn 1 abyssal persecutor is actually the most incredible way he could play his role in this game. cool from a theme pov, cool from a "who he is as a player" pov and actually interesting from a "throw a wrench in fixed gameplans" pov. hell yeah blue hair guy

  • @jonathanblouin-lecours7944

    thanks you CRIM YOU did the clash on ! :)

  • @otterdisappointment6408

    This was really cool would love to see more like it

  • @harvest4396
    @harvest4396 Před 26 dny

    I loved this episode so much! Please, please, please do more like this

  • @jasonhiebert4997
    @jasonhiebert4997 Před 24 dny

    This just got better and better!

  • @tylerabrams8063
    @tylerabrams8063 Před 26 dny +1

    This was awesome! :D

  • @OdinMagnus
    @OdinMagnus Před 25 dny

    Would have been funny if Richard responded with "Everybody Lives" when the triggers for both pacts were on the stack.

  • @burningpapersun1
    @burningpapersun1 Před 26 dny +1

    This was highly entertaining!

  • @nooneimportanttoyou
    @nooneimportanttoyou Před 25 dny

    That was awesome. I love alternate win conditions. A bit sad I didn't get to see Phage.

  • @SiliconSicilian
    @SiliconSicilian Před 24 dny

    Love this format. Going to see if my local will give it a go.

  • @GlenNorth
    @GlenNorth Před 25 dny

    This was so silly, I love it :D

  • @SterileSauce
    @SterileSauce Před 26 dny +1

    Table top gameplays are so much more enjoyable that mtgo. Loved this format, it feels like super cedh

  • @oakapigang2944
    @oakapigang2944 Před 18 dny

    finally someone else has built this format! I want to ramp tutors into Wall of Blood t0, but frequently don't have the things for it.

  • @mathned15
    @mathned15 Před 21 dnem

    I really liked this episode great job

  • @bradstanky
    @bradstanky Před 26 dny

    bro im impressed every week you guys are some nasty deck builders

  • @RCrowlzor
    @RCrowlzor Před 26 dny +2

    Poor phil, the one time his knack for getting killed first might benefit him, suddenly he can't die no matter how hard he tries!finally got there game 3 at least!

  • @midwesternviking_ttv2986

    This was so much fun to watch

  • @Battleguild
    @Battleguild Před 25 dny

    This entire game is basically one of my personal favorite decks to play.

  • @vividsyntax5301
    @vividsyntax5301 Před 26 dny

    This is SO delightful