This is such a waste of public money on something that regardless of your views on immigration will not deter anyone and even if it did actually get put into operation the number of people being sent over to Rwanda would be so insignificant it would make no difference at all. This is complete madness and a waste public money where it could be spent on a better idea or on something else !
This was a hugely impressive speech by Sir Chris Bryant MP. No one should be voting for this bill. It is what happens when rationale and logic disappear, and all that is left is the totem that has been made of empty slogans ("stop the boats," "start the flights").
You have failed to propose an alternative and the status quo is not working. Criticism is easy ... solving a difficult problem is hard. There are too many critics and not enough problem solvers
@petermills1397 The solution is simple. It is a political choice that our Govt has made not to take it. Our Govt should make available legal routes for migrants seeking asylum to come into this country and invest in the personnel and processes to ensure that all claims are dealt with speedily here.
@@markhayward7400 Wrong, they should be dealt with elsewhere because they go missing, no one should be allowed to gain entry here via dinghy, it's an invasion, that simple and the government are weak, labour would be worse, they see more postal votes coming in, as it stands Britain is beyond redemption
@@markhayward7400It sounds like you’re very naive about the reality of Islam. Our culture is degrading further every year whilst Islam continues to grow. The safety for our women and children continues to decline to cater to a population that hates our culture, wants Sharia law and refuses to assimilate. Look at what happened to Lebanon and Iran when they didn’t take a firm stand against it.
Thank God I took that Constitutional Law module at Uni. Impressive seperation of powers and juridical arguments from Bryant here. The House is not completley without brains it seems...
Here’s one reason why immigration needs to get sorted, the amount of people who came into the uk legally last year is the equivalent of a third of the Welsh total population, let that sink in ⚠️
@@matty7758No he doesn't think that, you are just assuming he thinks that. It is an incredibly stupid assumption. No one with half a brain knows that 700,000 did not come across by small boat across the English channel this year. You didn't read his post properly, he said "legally" and the people coming across the channel in small boats (aka dinghys) are NOT entering legally, are they? So pretty obviously he is talking about immigration OTHER than crossing the Channel in small boats. Learn to read accurately and then think before posting.
And we watch a future Prime Minister at work. At least he is not obsessed by making more billions for his own family, nor is he a cold automaton, with less emotion than a chunk of Chalk.
@@maxhobby1701 Yes, of course we can. We produced Michael Collins, in the past. Nye Bevan, in the past Clement Attlee, in the past. But, in present times, only one real political leader, and they were a woman. And her ancestors did not put straw up on roofs.
1) £310m 2) One full 747 every 3 days to get net zero from those entering by boat. 3) A ridiculous idea from the start. 4) The illegal immigrants are illegally in France, why are not the French processing their asylum claims? 5) Send every single one of them back to French soil, that will stop the boats just like Australia did and it worked.
The UN convention in asylum states that you can claim asylum in ANY country, not just those on your immediate border. It doesn’t matter how many ‘safe countries’ you have to pass through. It’s completely irrelevant.
That would be very foolish. Sunak is the best Prime Minister the UK has had in a long time and you would reject him because he is not giving you exactly what you want. I would take a deep breath and think before acting that rashly.
The sixth reason is that the gangs will find ways to counter the. Deterent nature of the bill by working out the way all the loopholes will enable people to stay in the uk once in. Better turn the boats back.
When or indeed if Starmer's UK Labour party get into power next year, I hope that Chris Bryant is given one of the top jobs in the new cabinet. Personally I would be making him either Home Secretary or Foreign Secretary.
@@thomasholland5487 the government don't represent the people and neither did they listen to the people amd vote for a ceasefire so there is actually no point of having the houses of parliament at all. Once people stop voting the government will dismantle itself and there will be no m.ps
@@Chillednfunked tory 😅😅🤣🤣 there's is a legal way to stop paying tax . Look it up we rhe public have every right to stop payi g tax especially if its for war and terrorism in other countries, secondly you can't imprison the whole country unless they turn it in to palestine, and live under an occupation governed by terrorists. I've already signed and sent my declaration to stop paying g tax legally, stopped paying t.v license cus I don't want to be paid to be brainwashed and I've never voted. So I don't know how they still get my vote 😅🤣🤣😂obviously it's all fraud. None of our tax goes to our countey it goes straight to the illegal occupying terrorist state where you and I pay for their free NHS, wages, and free education. We pay for it. That's not what I'm paying my tax for. I want my tax to go to our country our people our services
If we don't adopt the Rwanda plan, then what do we do? Start legislating population control limiting families to 1-2 kids through taxation, The population has to stop growing somehow??
Deport foreign criminals. Deport expired visa holders. Stop visas for families of students. Limit dependents to children and spouses. Deport anyone that enters the country illegally. Make visas much harder to get. Make benefits much harder to get for foreign nationals. Deport unemployed visa holders.
@@jimhayes8811 there are 67 million people in the UK. It would take almost a millennia (that's a thousand years ;)) to even reach half that population if you were to rely on people arriving by boat. Each year, our population grows by about half a million. It would take 11 years of boats to match that one year of growth. That's assuming that net asylum accounts for 45000 people, which it doesn't, as about 20k are eventually returned. The backlog is the problem. Investment in the system for returning failed asylum seekers, and speeding up the processing of new cases is what is required. Something the left has been suggesting for almost a decade. Something you hadn't even considered because the government has you bleating about Rwanda and population growth.
Establish safe routes to destroy the smugglers economic model overnight. Properly fund the asylum system to get people out of hotels and into tax-paying employment. Cancel this lunatic Rwanda deal.
Still can figure why they cannot take the illegal immigrants back to the French coast! Cannot they overrule any law that stops them? The boats would be stopped in a week! The French would stop having crowds of immigrants massing on the Frech coast and causing trouble because thete would be no boats trying to cross! Yet they won't do it! The answer is right in front of them!
Unless you have been under a rock, pretty much every Labour minister that has recently been interviewed has repeated their proposals. Shall we do it again? Instigate safe routes, process claims quicker, reinstate our returns agreements with the EU, work more closely with French & Belgian police & border forces. I guess rejoining the EU & resigning the Dublin agreement would be a touch to far for the knuckle daggers. This all stems from that choice in 2016.
1% of gaza is dead, agreeing or trusting anything slaughter Sunak proposes is foolish- after UN article 99, trusting one word is to be complicit in future Rwanda crimes
Unless you are really stupid, you will realize that Gaza is being orchestrated by the Ayatollah Khamenei and President Putin and they don't care how many people die in Gaza, Ukraine, Guyana etc. So don't try and blame the government. Putin and Khamenei will decide when the slaughter ends
Rubbish The Rwanda Policy WILL WORK !. There is accommodation in Rwanda ready to take illegal immigrants. All that is needed is a charter Jumbo jet. Australia reduced illegal immigration from 21,000 to 500 using this method
@@yossercthis tory Government has spent 140 million already what for 100 migrants and what's worse we have to receive God knows how many more people from Rwanda utter madness
@@yosserc You are brain washed ! I don't want MY COUNTRY INVADED by ANY ONE. We have a legal right to remove any one who has NO legal right to be here - End of Story !!!!!
Sending asylum seekers to a third country is one way of handling this situation and yes it is the method Australia uses but declaring that Australia does it and it works is ridiculous and completely ignores all of the points made. Even if every other part of the Rwanda policy was legally sound how is the government declaring things are because they say so regardless of the facts good for anyone? That alone should be enough to kill this madness
@@mrt88music NOT A SINGLE ILLEGAL IMMIGRANT COMING FROM FRANCE IS AN ASYLAM SEEKER - They are leaving a country where their human rights rights are protected by the EU They are making a life style choice and WE DON'T WANT THEM !
I voted in 2019 for the Conservatives to control the borders, I did not vote for the the Judges in the European court of human rights, the Supreme court, or the UN. Perhaps I should be able to though, as they are obviously running the country not the politicians. No one has ever voted for any of this so called international law, apart from a few MP's decades ago. I bet they didn't even put it in their manifesto/mention it during the campaign, never mind hold a referendum while they were giving away the powers entrusted to them by the electorate, therefore denying future voters the right to choose who to entrust them to. European Human rights interpretations have no democratic legitimacy at all. Even the Human rights act, which is at least a law, has no more weight than the dangerous dogs act. This is much more than Rwanda now, it is about who really runs the country in the future.
If you are going to accuse people of lying then you had better be sure that they are lying, otherwise you commit libel. And you ruin any credibility you have here.
What is important is the will of the British People. The reality is that the British People want migration halted or paused to allow the very large number of existing recent migrants to assimilate to the culture and traditions of the country. Without that assimilation, the future will be filled with homelessness, racism, religious hatred, ghettos, insurrection and terrorism in the society. The government should carry out the will of the British People or get thrown aside until someone more radical comes to solve the problem. Clearly Labour are bereft of ideas. The right-wing of the Conservative are too autocratic. They should pass the Bill and manage the consequences, whatever they may be. Maybe the legislation may need to be made even tougher in the future.
Yeah let's see how that works. Bryant is right on all points. No one will ever go to Rwanda, there are too many holes in this flimsy Bill. Your suggestion is plain childish and ridiculous. Enjoy your time in prison.
High Court: ‘This is illegal’
Tories: ‘No it isn’t’
This is such a waste of public money on something that regardless of your views on immigration will not deter anyone and even if it did actually get put into operation the number of people being sent over to Rwanda would be so insignificant it would make no difference at all. This is complete madness and a waste public money where it could be spent on a better idea or on something else !
This was a hugely impressive speech by Sir Chris Bryant MP.
No one should be voting for this bill. It is what happens when rationale and logic disappear, and all that is left is the totem that has been made of empty slogans ("stop the boats," "start the flights").
You have failed to propose an alternative and the status quo is not working. Criticism is easy ... solving a difficult problem is hard. There are too many critics and not enough problem solvers
@petermills1397 The solution is simple. It is a political choice that our Govt has made not to take it. Our Govt should make available legal routes for migrants seeking asylum to come into this country and invest in the personnel and processes to ensure that all claims are dealt with speedily here.
@@markhayward7400 Wrong, they should be dealt with elsewhere because they go missing, no one should be allowed to gain entry here via dinghy, it's an invasion, that simple and the government are weak, labour would be worse, they see more postal votes coming in, as it stands Britain is beyond redemption
@@markhayward7400It sounds like you’re very naive about the reality of Islam. Our culture is degrading further every year whilst Islam continues to grow. The safety for our women and children continues to decline to cater to a population that hates our culture, wants Sharia law and refuses to assimilate. Look at what happened to Lebanon and Iran when they didn’t take a firm stand against it.
@@ally4131 I am not so naive that I don't recognise an Islamophobe when I come across one.
Rowanda is safer than streets of London
It’s Rwanda 😂
There are 5 points trending..... Sunak is the inventor 😂
Thank God I took that Constitutional Law module at Uni. Impressive seperation of powers and juridical arguments from Bryant here. The House is not completley without brains it seems...
Never a question of brains, morals? definitely bereft
He can repeat an expensive lawyer's arguments funded by vested interests. He probably passed his English O level and impressed his mother.
Was that not a core module?
@@jaseayathorai3762 not at all,
This Rwanda nonsense is just a failed distraction. While we talk about boats , "over there". We will miss the disaster of a country "over here".
Here’s one reason why immigration needs to get sorted, the amount of people who came into the uk legally last year is the equivalent of a third of the Welsh total population, let that sink in ⚠️
You think they all came over on rubber dinghies?
@@matty7758No he doesn't think that, you are just assuming he thinks that. It is an incredibly stupid assumption.
No one with half a brain knows that 700,000 did not come across by small boat across the English channel this year.
You didn't read his post properly, he said "legally" and the people coming across the channel in small boats (aka dinghys) are NOT entering legally, are they?
So pretty obviously he is talking about immigration OTHER than crossing the Channel in small boats.
Learn to read accurately and then think before posting.
Probably working twice as hard too 😂
Well stated
Bryant killing it!!!! Cmon Britain!!!!!! 🙌💪💪💪
Let millions more migrants in, let them put the cost of living and taxes up and may you drown in your misery !
I can't believe this is best plan the tories have...
You think they have other plans?
Some Tories might have, but Sunak is refusing to listen to them.
bad ideas from a dead party, unelected Sunak doesnt give two 💩's about us the UK polulation
Chris, as usual, at his forensic best.
An eloquent speech that doesn't solve the problem or provide alternatives is pretty but useless
And we watch a future Prime Minister at work. At least he is not obsessed by making more billions for his own family, nor is he a cold automaton, with less emotion than a chunk of Chalk.
@Demun1649 you have got to be kidding surely we can produce something better than Him yuk !
@@Demun1649Captain Underpants is a political pygmy. He nominated Biden for the Nobel Prize for heavens sake.
@@maxhobby1701 Yes, of course we can. We produced Michael Collins, in the past. Nye Bevan, in the past Clement Attlee, in the past. But, in present times, only one real political leader, and they were a woman. And her ancestors did not put straw up on roofs.
So what’s the answer?
The answer is that 'the boats' represent a tiny proportion of immigration to the UK.
Trains to Auschwitz
Planes to Rwanda
Spot the difference.
It started with the plan for boats to Madagascar. But the Nazis found this unworkable.
1) £310m
2) One full 747 every 3 days to get net zero from those entering by boat.
3) A ridiculous idea from the start.
4) The illegal immigrants are illegally in France, why are not the French processing their asylum claims?
5) Send every single one of them back to French soil, that will stop the boats just like Australia did and it worked.
The UN convention in asylum states that you can claim asylum in ANY country, not just those on your immediate border.
It doesn’t matter how many ‘safe countries’ you have to pass through. It’s completely irrelevant.
I'll certainly vote against Rishi the first chance I get. I'm voting Reform👍
That would be very foolish. Sunak is the best Prime Minister the UK has had in a long time and you would reject him because he is not giving you exactly what you want. I would take a deep breath and think before acting that rashly.
@@petermills1397you have no idea what you’re talking about.
@petermills1397 He said he's voting Reform... that should tell you all you need to know about how he feels about Rishi Sunak
If you vote Reform you are a racist
@@mayorhardin1171He feels they aren’t right wing enough and this Government is very right wing
Brilliant. There shouldn’t be an answer to this.
Ah Captain Underpants. The rocket scientist who nominated Biden for a Nobel prize 😂😂
Lack of awareness: He should reconsider once again about the bill because it'll be good for the UK.
What a bummer.
Streets of Britain are not safe so why should we care about anyone in Rwanda ?.
The sixth reason is that the gangs will find ways to counter the. Deterent nature of the bill by working out the way all the loopholes will enable people to stay in the uk once in. Better turn the boats back.
When or indeed if Starmer's UK Labour party get into power next year, I hope that Chris Bryant is given one of the top jobs in the new cabinet.
Personally I would be making him either Home Secretary or Foreign Secretary.
Labour may get into power but without a majority because they don't have any vision except to borrow money and spend it.
Starmer is a joke. Even if he squeaks in he will fill his cabinet with drones
Well said that man 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼💯
We've boycotted voting and paying tax
No more votes no more tax
Good luck deciding on who you want to run your country. Better not hear you complain on the results.
@@thomasholland5487 the government don't represent the people and neither did they listen to the people amd vote for a ceasefire so there is actually no point of having the houses of parliament at all. Once people stop voting the government will dismantle itself and there will be no m.ps
Off to jail you go, bye
@@Chillednfunked tory
😅😅🤣🤣 there's is a legal way to stop paying tax . Look it up we rhe public have every right to stop payi g tax especially if its for war and terrorism in other countries, secondly you can't imprison the whole country unless they turn it in to palestine, and live under an occupation governed by terrorists. I've already signed and sent my declaration to stop paying g tax legally, stopped paying t.v license cus I don't want to be paid to be brainwashed and I've never voted. So I don't know how they still get my vote 😅🤣🤣😂obviously it's all fraud. None of our tax goes to our countey it goes straight to the illegal occupying terrorist state where you and I pay for their free NHS, wages, and free education. We pay for it. That's not what I'm paying my tax for. I want my tax to go to our country our people our services
If we don't adopt the Rwanda plan, then what do we do? Start legislating population control limiting families to 1-2 kids through taxation, The population has to stop growing somehow??
Deport foreign criminals. Deport expired visa holders. Stop visas for families of students. Limit dependents to children and spouses. Deport anyone that enters the country illegally. Make visas much harder to get. Make benefits much harder to get for foreign nationals. Deport unemployed visa holders.
You think people on boats are increasing the population by a meaningful amount? Really?
Yes, I would say 45,000 people, every year is a meaningful amount!
@@jimhayes8811 there are 67 million people in the UK.
It would take almost a millennia (that's a thousand years ;)) to even reach half that population if you were to rely on people arriving by boat.
Each year, our population grows by about half a million. It would take 11 years of boats to match that one year of growth.
That's assuming that net asylum accounts for 45000 people, which it doesn't, as about 20k are eventually returned. The backlog is the problem.
Investment in the system for returning failed asylum seekers, and speeding up the processing of new cases is what is required. Something the left has been suggesting for almost a decade.
Something you hadn't even considered because the government has you bleating about Rwanda and population growth.
Establish safe routes to destroy the smugglers economic model overnight.
Properly fund the asylum system to get people out of hotels and into tax-paying employment.
Cancel this lunatic Rwanda deal.
lost me within 5 seconds. the danes have done the same and it’s had a massive effect.
they haven't even done it yet..
Rubbish
I guess we can't do anything then.
Still can figure why they cannot take the illegal immigrants back to the French coast!
Cannot they overrule any law that stops them?
The boats would be stopped in a week!
The French would stop having crowds of immigrants massing on the Frech coast and causing trouble because thete would be no boats trying to cross!
Yet they won't do it!
The answer is right in front of them!
No, we had the answer... EU membership & the Dublin Agreement...... the not so bright gave them away😂
Its because France is not a safe country !
@paulcopsey6573 Crazy! £2.4 million to Rwanda and it could cost them much less if they could return the France!
You left the EU you mug. You can't control anything about the French coast
My God, I find myself agreeing with Chris Bryant!
Then you are a follower of demagoguery. Good luck with that !
"Chris Bryant laying bare" ie minus underpants !!
Never got any solutions himself
Unless you have been under a rock, pretty much every Labour minister that has recently been interviewed has repeated their proposals. Shall we do it again? Instigate safe routes, process claims quicker, reinstate our returns agreements with the EU, work more closely with French & Belgian police & border forces. I guess rejoining the EU & resigning the Dublin agreement would be a touch to far for the knuckle daggers. This all stems from that choice in 2016.
@@paulcopsey6573 up yours
Deport Bryant.
Deport you, you aren’t clever enough to understand
Maybe we should put some migrants in the house next door to his?
Bryant is a numpty. 😂😂
You are clearly fairly uneducated
Labour would be worse than the cons
Nurse....get his meds ready....
Delusional
@@georgeatkinson759 Labour are the only party to be investigated for racism
Correct…..Labour are sh1te!!
@@georgeatkinson759Actually it was Labour that opened the flood gates back in 1997.
Go learn your history before making stupid comments.
1% of gaza is dead, agreeing or trusting anything slaughter Sunak proposes is foolish- after UN article 99, trusting one word is to be complicit in future Rwanda crimes
Unless you are really stupid, you will realize that Gaza is being orchestrated by the Ayatollah Khamenei and President Putin and they don't care how many people die in Gaza, Ukraine, Guyana etc. So don't try and blame the government. Putin and Khamenei will decide when the slaughter ends
Perhaps the Palestinians shouldn't vote for Islamofascists then. Zero sympathy. I hope Israel win by any means necessary.
Rubbish The Rwanda Policy WILL WORK !. There is accommodation in Rwanda ready to take illegal immigrants. All that is needed is a charter Jumbo jet. Australia reduced illegal immigration from 21,000 to 500 using this method
@@yossercthis tory Government has spent 140 million already what for 100 migrants and what's worse we have to receive God knows how many more people from Rwanda utter madness
@@yosserc You are brain washed ! I don't want MY COUNTRY INVADED by ANY ONE. We have a legal right to remove any one who has NO legal right to be here - End of Story !!!!!
Sending asylum seekers to a third country is one way of handling this situation and yes it is the method Australia uses but declaring that Australia does it and it works is ridiculous and completely ignores all of the points made. Even if every other part of the Rwanda policy was legally sound how is the government declaring things are because they say so regardless of the facts good for anyone? That alone should be enough to kill this madness
@@mrt88music NOT A SINGLE ILLEGAL IMMIGRANT COMING FROM FRANCE IS AN ASYLAM SEEKER - They are leaving a country where their human rights rights are protected by the EU They are making a life style choice and WE DON'T WANT THEM !
@@yossercwhoever the Tories tell you are the problem are the problem
There’s already a war going in Rwanda and they want to ship them there😂 Rishi sunaks billionaire wife should pay for it if they so eager
I voted in 2019 for the Conservatives to control the borders, I did not vote for the the Judges in the European court of human rights, the Supreme court, or the UN. Perhaps I should be able to though, as they are obviously running the country not the politicians. No one has ever voted for any of this so called international law, apart from a few MP's decades ago. I bet they didn't even put it in their manifesto/mention it during the campaign, never mind hold a referendum while they were giving away the powers entrusted to them by the electorate, therefore denying future voters the right to choose who to entrust them to. European Human rights interpretations have no democratic legitimacy at all. Even the Human rights act, which is at least a law, has no more weight than the dangerous dogs act. This is much more than Rwanda now, it is about who really runs the country in the future.
You could have voted while we were members, you donut.
Now you can't. Because we left. Get over it.
You have been well and truly conned.
The ignorance is astounding.
All a smokescreen they want them here, along with the 1.2 million so called legals, ever get the feeling we are being re placed ?
This man lies every time he opens his mouth.
I know...Sunak is a terrible liar...isn't he...
@@georgeatkinson759 The whole of Parliament are a bunch of liars. We need new party
He sounds reasonable to me. What is wrong or false about what he's saying here?
If you are going to accuse people of lying then you had better be sure that they are lying, otherwise you commit libel. And you ruin any credibility you have here.
@@deang5622 😂😂😂
What is important is the will of the British People. The reality is that the British People want migration halted or paused to allow the very large number of existing recent migrants to assimilate to the culture and traditions of the country. Without that assimilation, the future will be filled with homelessness, racism, religious hatred, ghettos, insurrection and terrorism in the society. The government should carry out the will of the British People or get thrown aside until someone more radical comes to solve the problem. Clearly Labour are bereft of ideas. The right-wing of the Conservative are too autocratic. They should pass the Bill and manage the consequences, whatever they may be. Maybe the legislation may need to be made even tougher in the future.
Please let us know when the British said they wanted migration halted?
What you've done is assume all think like you, we don't.
@@Seafarer-Ade Yes we do
@@bezza9430 No, we don't
Labour are not bereft of ideas, but you Tories are.
No we don't
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@@bezza9430
We've boycotted voting and paying tax
No more votes no more tax
Yeah let's see how that works. Bryant is right on all points. No one will ever go to Rwanda, there are too many holes in this flimsy Bill. Your suggestion is plain childish and ridiculous. Enjoy your time in prison.
@@nigelsheppard625most people in this country are completely brain dead mate