I have a totally stock 2016 PCX bought new in April of that year. Like it was in the crate when I initially went by to purchase it. I had to wait 2 days for them to assemble it so I could sign the paperwork. It's my first bike and a childhood dream come true. I've wanted a 150cc Honda scooter since I was a child and they came out with the 150 Elites in the 80's. I love it. But this video reminded me of a time I took a big group ride with local scooter enthusiasts mostly in the 125-150cc range in various states of modification. They were all rolling slow and having a good time and the fastest one of them on a completely tricked out and supped up 125cc Kymco I think with pretty much every performance mod you can get on one kept getting out ahead of the group by at least 1/4 of a mile and someone would have to run hard to catch him and pull him back while he tried not to make it easy on them. He was basically doing 50+ in a 35-45 area. After about the 6-7th time this happened I decided to be the one to do it. So I took off after him. I had caught up and was beside him before he could even register that anyone had moved from the pack. The look of shock on his face was priceless. Like I had basically just manifested next to him out of the ether. He didn't run ahead anymore after that. Later in the night on the last part of the ride he decided to race me. And just like what happened here in this video I walked him. When we all stopped for gas he ripped his helmet off before I could even dismount and screamed "That things fast!". Honestly I wasn't showing off I just never knew how it stacked up to anything else in it's weight class (125-150ish cc) until then and wanted to see. And there was another time I did another group ride with them and another club that met up and my PCX was the fastest thing there except for a 250cc Ninja and another 250cc Chinese scooter. The point is don't underestimate the PCX. In Europe they have the nickname "Queens of the city" for a reason. You can easily take it anyplace that has a 60 mph or below speed limit and even do 15-20 mile trips on the freeway or out of town if you're just slightly careful. I do it all the time. No one cares if you're all the way over in the right lane doing 2-3 miles below the speed limit and if you're in rush hour traffic no ones doing the speed limit anyway. Buying my "Little Cub" (named because when you twist the throttle all the way it roars/squeaks like a little loins cub) was hands down one of the single best decisions I have ever made in my entire life. I'm never getting rid of it and fully intent to keep riding it for at least the next 20-30 years. I'll have other bikes sure but I'm never getting rid of the PCX.
For what it is worth, I am VERY glad you have done these vids comparing these 2. Because I just so happen to be looking at a leftover unsold 2018 model PCX for $2999, a new updated 2020 model for $3699, and a Supe rCub for about the same price. But watching these vids, as nostalgic and COOOOL as the little SC is, I am gonna have to go with the PCX. Another thing is my wife rides on the back with me a lot. And although you can get a rear pillion and footpegs for the SuperCub (imported), it is just more money on top of a already slower bike. Darn. I really like the styling of the super cub lol BUT, I love the PCX too!
Agreed... for 2-up riding, the PCX is a better choice than the Cub. If you plan to ride with a passenger most of the time, you might want to look into 300-class scooters like the 2014 Honda Forza 300 or the 2018+ Yamaha X-MAX 300... those will give you more power and they will be a bit less cramped for 2-up riding. I wish that Honda would build a "Touring Cub" one of these days with the same styling, but a bit larger in all dimensions (e.g. longer wheelbase, a bit more steering rake, 200-300cc engine, passenger seat, etc)... that would be a REALLY cool bike for the long back roads trips. Cheers! 👍 --QM
Thx for the feedback! You can't go wrong with either bike, as long as you have reasonable expectations for them. I'm fortunate to own several different bikes, so I can choose the right tool for the job... avoiding tasks that would be uncomfortable or unreasonable for the bike. I wish you luck and great rides on your PCX150! Cheers! 👍 --QM
@@QuasiMotard what kinds of trips do you find yourself wishing you'd taken the PCX over the Cub? I can imagine doing a week's groceries (for one person) being a bit of a moto logistics Tetris game on the cub, but otherwise it seems with a good tail trunk or bag it should be pretty versatile?
@@atelerix969 Sorry for the late reply... CZcams doesn't always notify me about comments that are nested down a few levels. The PCX is definitely more comfortable than the Super Cub. The PCX lets you change your foot positions around to avoid leg fatigue, whereas the SC keeps you nailed in the toilet position all day. I really enjoy both bikes, so it's hard to say which trips I would have preferred one over the other. I just completed the 9600+ mile trip on the Super Cub for the Scooter Cannonball Run in July 2021. I can definitely say that the 27-day trip would have been more comfortable and a bit faster on the PCX, but I wouldn't change the experience that I had on the Cub... it was FANTASTIC! I am planning to ride my PCX up to Arkansas and Missouri in mid-September, so that will be another ~2000-mile trip. I will be sure to mentally compare the PCX to the SC again many times during that trip, and I'll relay my opinions in some upcoming videos. Cheers! 😉👍 --QM
What is the use of that 3-4inch tab sticking out from the throttle? I own a couple big touring bikes but I 'm thinking about a little scooter for local trips. Thanks.
That is the Go Cruise 7/8" throttle lock: www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00TIEATVY . I have these cruise controls installed on most of my bikes because they're cheap, simple, and they really work! I prefer these over the fancier throttle locks (e.g. Kaoko, Atlas, etc) because the other types hold the throttle tube in both directions (on/off) instead of just the off (downward) direction. The ability to roll-on the throttle for passing and then let it go to return to your previous setting is a huge benefit over the other types. Cheers! 👍 --QM
I think that a 150-200cc Cub would be great, if Honda would release one. I'm always skeptical about the aftermarket big-bore kits because of the reliability issues... not to mention that they get really expensive with all of the add-on bits (e.g. fuel controllers, oil coolers, etc). I would much prefer to see Honda bring some of their excellent small-diaplacement bikes over from the Asian and south American markets. Those bikes are tried and true, with long track records for reliability. One of those air-cooled motors could probably be shoved into the Cub and be paired up with a slightly longer swingarm to make a Touring Cub... what a blast that would be! I never received the replacement parts for my Givi mounting kit, so I ordered another kit from Ebay. I haven't received the tracking info for that yet, but I'm hoping to receive that in the next week or two. I'll make another install video for the screen when that arrives I'll also show the replacement of the leg shield and some minor electrical work for adding the driving lights and a USB charger for my phone mount. --QM
I remembered something today while getting ready to mow the lawn. Sweat... I got the mower out of the very hot shed (95 outside) and drove it to the garage to air up the flat tire. While that was happening the seat was cooking in the sun. When I was ready to mow the lawn I was pretty much burning my buttox quite a bit. Since you also live in Texas, where it is hot. Do you have any issues with sweat while riding? Side questions. What do you think the maintenance cost over 40,000 miles would be, between the two. Do either have to warm up? I remember riding my old dirtbike in some very cold weather and it essentially never warmed up, even with the choke on. Thanks, your videos on this subject have been a real treat.
Oh, yeah... I feel ya! It's always hot down here in the Gulf Coast area, so I'm always dealing with broiled buns (and every other body part). For sweat management, I have four words for you: Gold Bond Body Powder. That stuff is magic for managing odor and sweat to some extent. I put it in my shorts, socks, gloves, and boots to keep things from getting too funky. The other item that I use for long trips is the AirHawk seat pad... the honeycomb nylon mesh cover allows air circulation to prevent "Monkey Butt", and it cools off fast even if your bike has been sitting in the sun for a while. Other than those tricks, I just use layers of clothes (e.g. athletic under-shirts to avoid sweat-through), and I wear high-flow mesh riding jacket and gloves. As for the Super Cub's maintenance over ~40K miles, I would suspect that it's extremely low. The PCX150 is also a low-maintenance machine, but it will consume a bit more fuel and the CVT belt needs to be replaced every ~12K miles. If you maintain both bikes equally (e.g. oil changes, tire upkeep, chain maintenance), I'm sure that the Super Cub will have lower maintenance and operating costs. I have ~1200 miles on my Cub so far, and the only maintenance costs have been the oil changes and fuel (if you ignore the road rash damage from my son's little episode). Warm up times are similar for both machines, but that routine is just a habit on my part to keep the mechanicals happy. They are both fuel injected, so there is no cold-start or carburetor choke to worry about... they are ready to roll immediately after you fire them up to life. I typically wait about a minute or so before I start riding... just start the motor while I'm donning my helmet and gloves, and that's about it.
Good catch! I got busy with work and family issues, and that slipped by. I have ~1300 miles on my Cub now, and I will be doing a follow-up and "owner's opinion" shortly! I really enjoy the Super Cub and I don't have any real complaints about it... just a minor adjustment for the shift lever and replacing the OEM mirrors... that's it! --QM
@@QuasiMotard I'm at 650 miles and wouldn't trade my Super Cub for anything. Other than a few oil flushes and tightening the chain a time or 2, it's performed flawlessly. Gas mileage is incredible for a 125! Looking forward to the upcoming video, and thanks!
I always ride with a full-face or a modular (flip-up) helmet. Open face helmets allow too much air flow and road debris (e.g. rocks, sand, insects) to the chin area. An open face helmet also doesn't provide any protection for the chin in an accident. I raced motocross, supercross, and superbikes for many years and I've been down many times on the track. Several of those events resulted in broken chin bars on my helmets, so they protected my face... otherwise the broken chin would have been mine! 😉👍 --QM
The Vespa GTS is a much faster scoot, so it would leave these two in its dust. This comparison was intended to show the relative speed and power differences between the Super Cub C125 and the PCX150 because they fill similar roles for first time riders and as entry-level commuters. --QM
Super Cub #482 owner here. How about a video detailing your camping / touring setup - what you take, how it's packed, do's and don'ts, etc? This would be a great help to those of us that own a Super Cub and are interested in camping or light touring on one.
Howdy, sir... and congrats on the Cub! Mine is #437. I will try to put a minimalist motocamping load-out video together for other Cub campers and/or scampers (scooter campers). I find that the Cub and other small bikes require a different mindset for motocamping, where you really focus on keeping it light and taking only the necessities. Their lower power makes every extra pound really count against you, and the available space for gear is typically very limited. If you haven't already watched them, you might be interested in my series on the Cub's first motocamping trip ( Part 1 - czcams.com/video/_uSh6S6tDfM/video.html , Part 2 - czcams.com/video/_qngD8coUkI/video.html , Part 3 - czcams.com/video/3Ye8ElbYhnU/video.html ). Those videos were left very long (not too many cuts/edits) so people could get a "feel" for the Cub and see how it behaved on the back roads. It was still under the break-in period, so I took it easy on the motor during that trip. The next long outing that the Cub took was the trip to Austin, TX for the MotoGP at COTA ( czcams.com/video/QGVTxU-sdvA/video.html ). There wasn't any light packing on that trip... I took everything except the kitchen sink on that ride just to see if it could be done. 😉 --QM
@@QuasiMotard Yes, I've watched all of your videos on the Cub. Very informative and helpful. Thanks for the reply, and looking forward to a new video. Keep up the good work, Sir!
if i could afford both i would but ill wait into i get to virgina to get one hopefuly a honda pcx 150 but im only 5ft 8inch so i wonder if it be too big or just right?
I'm 5'7", 30" inseam, and about 165-170 lbs riding weight. The PCX150 and ADV150 both fit me just fine, so you should also fit it very well. The Super Cub is a smaller machine, but it's still very capable of hauling 6'2" 240 lb riders without any problems. 😉👍 --QM
With the not starting thing the manual says if the throttle is moved at all it will not start , so maybe it was that and not the gear. Can't test it, mine doesn't get here till wendsday .
Did you get your Super Cub yet? If so, how do you like it? I still haven't reviewed my Taco Bell video to see how I tried the stop/start... I need to do that. I'll try a full suite of tests on the start/stop tomorrow to figure out what works and what doesn't. --QM
@@QuasiMotard I did ! I just got it wendsday Night but left for a trip on Thursday so I only have 30 miles on it. I love it, took me a little to figure out the smart key. I have only tried starting in neutral so i have not testing anything either. I just read the entire ADV rider super cub post, seems a few people are having some odd problems in the earlier vin numbers. Nothing serious just hiccups here and there.
We don't have the Cub 110cc here in the United States, so I can't make any direct comparisons. However, the power difference between the two engines isn't that drastic, and the top speed will probably only be about 5-10 mph higher with the 125cc engine. The C125 does have fuel injection and ABS brakes, so that might be worth the upgrade if you need those things. Cheers! 👍 --QM
So for a daily commute would you recommend the pcx over the Cub because of the acceleration and storage. Other than looks what are the advantages of the cub ??
That's still a hard decision to make, and it really depends on your riding needs. The PCX is certainly more suitable as a commuter for many reasons (e.g. fuel capacity, acceleration, weather protection, built-in storage under the seat, etc). You can commute with the PCX immediately without needing to add or upgrade anything. It's a scooter, and they excel at practicality. The Cub is more fun and engaging to ride because of the semi-automatic transmission and chain drive (no rubber-band feel). The Cub definitely handles better and soaks up bumps better than the PCX. The Cub also has higher fuel efficiency by large percentage (around 135 mpg vs 100 mpg), but shorter range between fill-ups (only about 120 miles vs 200+ for the PCX). These bikes are very economical, so we're just disputing fractions of a penny per mile here. In the end, you really need to ride both bikes in your intended environment to see which fits you better and which one is more "livable"... not to be outgrown too quickly. I have the luxury of owning multiple bikes, so I can choose the right tool for the job of the day. If speed and cargo capacity aren't deciding factors, then I choose the Cub over the PCX every time because of the fun factor. I can get my speed fix from my other machines. 👍😉 --QM
I love my 2013 PCX 150 and, unmodified except for a new medium height GP windshield, it si stock down the every performance aspect. In fact, I have new tires on the way because it still has the original 7 year old tires on it and they are starting to dry rot a bit. I recently had my Honda Powersports dealer tune her up and, although I'm 5'11" and 270 lbs, I cruise at 65 across the local county highway and have hit 75 once on her (downhill and tail wind of course) without issue other than the PITA butt pain from that hump on the first gen PCX 150 seat. As you point out though, cross winds are scary on her and, you didn't point out, having a semi pass you at 75 feels like it's going to suck you under.
Agreed... the PCX150's are great machines! We took my PCX's on a 1600-mile trip through the Ozarks in Arkansas for Memorial Day this year ( czcams.com/video/_hKgxFxoFCc/video.html ), and the scoots performed flawlessly. The 2015 and later models have a different final drive ratio that reduced their speed just a bit vs the pre-2015 models. However, I upgraded the variators in both bikes, and that raised our top speeds to 71-74 MPH (drag-limited). I think I saw 76 MPH out of the 2015 one time on a downhill run. I don't notice the buffeting from large trucks passing too often, but I'm used to that from decades of riding. The occasions that I do notice it is when trailing large trucks in their wake... my larger windscreens tend to act like sails and the front of the bike will shimmy around side-to-side a bit because of the turbulent air. Cheers! 👍 --QM
Which model of PCX? I currently own the 2015 and 2016 PCX150's, so they are both the same generation of bike. The next revision is the 2019 that received lots of updates: - new twin-spar chassis - upgraded LED headlight/taillight - full digital LED/LCD instruments - new motor with a slightly lower displacement (149cc vs 153cc in older version) but higher efficiency - ABS for front brake (still drum brake in the rear) - new wheel design and larger tires - new bodywork and longer leg/foot area, etc, etc You really can't go wrong with any Honda in my opinion. Where the PCX is concerned, this is just an upgrade to an existing design, so it isn't a completely new platform... the new model design issues/flaws shouldn't be too much of an issue here. --QM
I am averaging about 128 mpg on the Cub and about 104 mpg on the 2016 PCX150. When I ride the Cub conservatively, it gets over 140 mpg. The PCX is usually ridden by my son, and he rides it harder than I do... I can achieve around 115-118 mpg on the PCX with conservative riding. --QM
Greetings from the USA! The windshield makes a big difference for long highway rides... it takes the wind pressure off of your torso and lets you enjoy the ride! The PCX is an extremely popular bike in Portugal, isn't it? Do you have the PCX125 or the PCX150? I remember watching a review by @CagerOnTwoWheels several years ago where he mentioned that the PCX125 is very popular because riders didn't need a special motorcycle license to ride it. Cheers! 👍 --QM
Good comparison, seems like the Cub is underpowered to me... in NY where I live, there are alot of hills, I doubt the Cub will perform like I want it to, my Kymco People 150 will remain with me for now. Two of my local Honda dealers keep calling with Cubs in their inventory...I wonder why they cant sell the Cub around here, I may have my answer now. also, how much of a difference in weight are you guys?
My son and I are within about 10 pounds of each other (I'm about 7 lbs heavier), so that shouldn't affect these results too much. The Cub really isn't in the same performance class as the 150cc scooters. The Cub's 125cc air-cooled motor runs lower compression (9.3:1 for the Cub vs 10.6:1 for the PCX) and produces much less power (8.1 hp) than the PCX150 (13.5 hp). There is a 60% difference in power, so this isn't an apples-to-apples comparison by any stretch of the imagination. A closer comparison would be the Super Cub vs Honda Grom (basically the same motor) or vs the Kawasaki Z125 Pro... they have similar displacement, engine construction (air-cooled), and power output. I only made this comparison because I happen to own both bikes, and they are both in the lower end of Honda's street bike lineup. I think that they will both attract similar buyers/riders, so I wanted to show the differences between them for general usability and commute-ability. If I don't need to go very fast or carry lots of stuff with me, then I choose the Cub every time. I guess it's just the fun factor and knowing that the Cub is so CRAZY efficient on fuel. 😉 --QM
@@QuasiMotard as much as I like the style of the old Cubs, it wouldn't really work out in my area, just too many hills and obnoxious drivers, I'd be afraid I'd get run off the road... also I'm no lightweight at 250 lbs so that would also slow things down. I like the style of the Cub but I think it needs more power for "me" and my area. If I lived where most roads were flat it would be a different story but around here in NY, it's not the right choice. I dont ride my kymco too much because of that reason... just around town, but the kymco was $600 used... a new Cub around here cost $4540 out the door... big difference...lol
Yeah, I've mentioned it before... I would love to see Honda release a SUPER Super Cub or a "Touring Cub" that has a 200-250cc motor with 5-6 speeds (normal clutch or semi-auto), a slightly longer swingarm, and an adjusted steering rake for better high-speed stability. The larger motor would give the Cub true highway capability and the ability to carry a passenger without straining. The larger motor would obviously need a larger fuel tank, but the changes to the chassis should be relatively minor. Of course, Honda has other scooters in their lineup, but the Cub is technically an "underbone motorcycle" and not a scooter (gears/chain vs CVT/belt drive). There aren't any other scooters that have the retro look or appeal unless you go Italian (e.g. Aprilia, Piaggio, Vespa, etc), and their prices are roughly twice what the Cub costs. It'll probably never happen, but I can dream... 😉 --QM
@@QuasiMotard Then it wouldn't be a Cub any more. The essence of the Cub is that it weighs "nothing" and not enough HP to get you into trouble. With more HP and speed, you begin to come into real motorcycle territory, where you want to overtake cars doing the speed limit. Then you get to where 100HP is considered "adequate"
Absolutely! I realized how effective the heel shifter is for slowly releasing if you're actually using your heel (not the toe). After I adjusted my shifter angle/height, it became apparent and I never use the toe to upshift anymore. The heel action lets you articulate the motion much finer than with the toe (using larger calf muscles vs the smaller flexors on the front of the calf). --QM
I'm based in Thailand and cubs are ridden completely differently out here. They shift from 4th to 1st and use the brakes to slow down. No gearing down whatsoever. I didn't know about the cylindrical design until I was told by the local dealer. Downshifting on the cub is considered dangerous.
@@mickfitz76 Apparently, the Cub's shift drum is different in the USA than in other parts of the world. Our shift pattern is "N-1-2-3-4", down shifts are on the toe, and upshifts are on the heel... and there is no wrap-around to "N". I would like the option to wrap back to "N" from 4th gear at a stop... that would be very handy for most stop-and-go traffic situations. I always downshift my bikes out of habit (40+ years of riding), and also to avoid the problem of being stuck between gears. I have noticed that my Cub can hang between gears sometimes if I try to mash down from 4th to 1st at a stop (the gear indicator flashes "--" when this happens). --QM
@@QuasiMotard Yes. It's very strange the cylindrical design. We go up through the gears using the toes. You have to option to gear back down with the heal or neutral by shifting with the toe again. I still downshift down to second but not first gear.
@@mickfitz76 The U.S. version shifts like a regular motorcycle which the shift patterns are reversed from the rest of the world. It's why we have a different shift lever which can allow us to shift up and down with the toe of the boot. We have to go through the full shift pattern to get to 1st to 4th.and 4th down to 1st. No short cut.
very nice and Im a PCX150 owner and I love it!!! My 2018 PCX150 gets alot of speed (max I got mine is at 65mph up hills) and has a very fast pickup..I say buy only Japanese scooter and not Chinese bc they break down alot and parts are had to get..Get a Honda scooter type if your looking for one!!
Droneman Productions i definitely won’t pretend that japanese bikes aren’t superior but I’ve had very good reliability from chinese scooters. They’re incredibly easy to work on and I’ve found parts to be easy to find and dirt cheap at that. They pretty much all use a variant the same engine too. They have a couple initial things to address but after that, you should be good. My current one is nearing 10kkm and 8k of that is on a $70 bore kit. Ive done nothing but regular oil changes. Ive owned three of them and my worst mechanical failure was a shattered piston from an overheat (my fault, i knew it was running lean from a new air filter) this required a complete rebuild to remove the schrapnal which took an afternoon and $80 ($70 top end kit and gaskets) that one ran well with no more issues for ~3kkm before it was stolen. The other was several years ago and was kept stock. I only put maybe 2kkm on it before selling but again, it was just fine with basic maintenance.
Droneman Productions Thanks i appreciate it! My channel is really just a depository for random videos I wanna upload for whatever reason lol.. reminds me those taotao vids turned out to be a bad CDI. That’s the scoot that got stolen.. I’d forgotten about that problem. These days I’m on a honda too, rebel250 but i still own and sometimes use the China scoot. Ride safe!
All of the 2015-2019 PCX150's hit the factory rev-limiter at 62-63 mph. I installed a Dr.Pulley performance variator and sliders in my 2015 PCX, and that bumped the top speed to a drag-limited 72-74 mph. The newer PCX 160's have a more powerful engine (4-valve head with higher compression), so they can reportedly reach 72-76 mph in factory trim. Cheers! 😉👍 --QM
Man he smoked you lol was this before the CVT upgrade ? The Pcx Looks good. Runnin down the highway have you seen the 2021 ? A 180cc pcx would be awesome if only Honda would build one
Yeah, this isn't really a fair comparison (or race) because the PCX's motor makes about 60% more power than the Cub. This video was recorded before I upgraded the PCX's variator, so it accelerates a just a bit quicker now and the top speed has increased to ~73 MPH. 😉👍 --QM
CVT will always win in small capacity bikes and cars. Constant power against power off Change gear power on . The maxi scooters are really quick off the mark even along side some sporty bikes
Agreed. As I noted in the video description, this isn't really a fair race. The PCX's motor makes about 60% more power (13.5 HP vs only 8.1 HP for the Cub). The CVT bikes/scoots can surprise a lot of cars and bikes with their acceleration. I have a Can-Am Ryker Rally 900 and also a SilverWing 600 that are both very quick off the line. Cheers! 👍 --QM
I weigh about 160-165 pounds in this video (170 pounds with my riding jacket and normal riding boots), and my son weighs about 150-155 pounds... so there is only about a 10 pound difference in rider weights. The PCX's motor makes about 60% more power, so this isn't an "apples-to-apples" comparison by any measure. --QM
Agreed on all points... for a commuter, the PCX150 is definitely the better tool. However, the Cub is still more fun to ride, IMHO. If you haven't ridden one, then you should give one a try... the Cub is really a blast to ride. Now that I own a Cub, I understand why Honda has sold 100M+ of these things... they really are fun and simple to operate. --QM
@@QuasiMotard I agree. Nothing rides like the cub. It will out corner almost anything at its limits. I changed out the rear shocks and put a set of Pirelli Diablo's on it. Wouldn't swap it for a soulless PCX.
Agreed. The SH150 is a great scoot, too. The CVT really helps with the acceleration because it keeps the motor in the torque peak throughout the rev range. The water-cooled 150cc motors are also producing significantly more power than the air-cooled 125cc motor in the Cub. The Cub is really not in the same class as these scooters for many reasons. I decided to compare them head-to-head because they are at the lowest end of Honda's displacement lineup, and both of them will likely attract the same types of riders. --QM
I have a totally stock 2016 PCX bought new in April of that year. Like it was in the crate when I initially went by to purchase it. I had to wait 2 days for them to assemble it so I could sign the paperwork. It's my first bike and a childhood dream come true. I've wanted a 150cc Honda scooter since I was a child and they came out with the 150 Elites in the 80's. I love it.
But this video reminded me of a time I took a big group ride with local scooter enthusiasts mostly in the 125-150cc range in various states of modification. They were all rolling slow and having a good time and the fastest one of them on a completely tricked out and supped up 125cc Kymco I think with pretty much every performance mod you can get on one kept getting out ahead of the group by at least 1/4 of a mile and someone would have to run hard to catch him and pull him back while he tried not to make it easy on them. He was basically doing 50+ in a 35-45 area. After about the 6-7th time this happened I decided to be the one to do it. So I took off after him. I had caught up and was beside him before he could even register that anyone had moved from the pack. The look of shock on his face was priceless. Like I had basically just manifested next to him out of the ether. He didn't run ahead anymore after that. Later in the night on the last part of the ride he decided to race me. And just like what happened here in this video I walked him. When we all stopped for gas he ripped his helmet off before I could even dismount and screamed "That things fast!". Honestly I wasn't showing off I just never knew how it stacked up to anything else in it's weight class (125-150ish cc) until then and wanted to see.
And there was another time I did another group ride with them and another club that met up and my PCX was the fastest thing there except for a 250cc Ninja and another 250cc Chinese scooter.
The point is don't underestimate the PCX. In Europe they have the nickname "Queens of the city" for a reason. You can easily take it anyplace that has a 60 mph or below speed limit and even do 15-20 mile trips on the freeway or out of town if you're just slightly careful. I do it all the time. No one cares if you're all the way over in the right lane doing 2-3 miles below the speed limit and if you're in rush hour traffic no ones doing the speed limit anyway.
Buying my "Little Cub" (named because when you twist the throttle all the way it roars/squeaks like a little loins cub) was hands down one of the single best decisions I have ever made in my entire life. I'm never getting rid of it and fully intent to keep riding it for at least the next 20-30 years. I'll have other bikes sure but I'm never getting rid of the PCX.
For what it is worth, I am VERY glad you have done these vids comparing these 2. Because I just so happen to be looking at a leftover unsold 2018 model PCX for $2999, a new updated 2020 model for $3699, and a Supe rCub for about the same price. But watching these vids, as nostalgic and COOOOL as the little SC is, I am gonna have to go with the PCX. Another thing is my wife rides on the back with me a lot. And although you can get a rear pillion and footpegs for the SuperCub (imported), it is just more money on top of a already slower bike. Darn. I really like the styling of the super cub lol BUT, I love the PCX too!
Agreed... for 2-up riding, the PCX is a better choice than the Cub. If you plan to ride with a passenger most of the time, you might want to look into 300-class scooters like the 2014 Honda Forza 300 or the 2018+ Yamaha X-MAX 300... those will give you more power and they will be a bit less cramped for 2-up riding. I wish that Honda would build a "Touring Cub" one of these days with the same styling, but a bit larger in all dimensions (e.g. longer wheelbase, a bit more steering rake, 200-300cc engine, passenger seat, etc)... that would be a REALLY cool bike for the long back roads trips. Cheers! 👍 --QM
@@QuasiMotard oh heck yeah that would be VERY cool indeed!
This video helped me decide to go with the PCX 150.
Thx for the feedback! You can't go wrong with either bike, as long as you have reasonable expectations for them. I'm fortunate to own several different bikes, so I can choose the right tool for the job... avoiding tasks that would be uncomfortable or unreasonable for the bike. I wish you luck and great rides on your PCX150! Cheers! 👍 --QM
@@QuasiMotard what kinds of trips do you find yourself wishing you'd taken the PCX over the Cub? I can imagine doing a week's groceries (for one person) being a bit of a moto logistics Tetris game on the cub, but otherwise it seems with a good tail trunk or bag it should be pretty versatile?
@@atelerix969 Sorry for the late reply... CZcams doesn't always notify me about comments that are nested down a few levels. The PCX is definitely more comfortable than the Super Cub. The PCX lets you change your foot positions around to avoid leg fatigue, whereas the SC keeps you nailed in the toilet position all day. I really enjoy both bikes, so it's hard to say which trips I would have preferred one over the other.
I just completed the 9600+ mile trip on the Super Cub for the Scooter Cannonball Run in July 2021. I can definitely say that the 27-day trip would have been more comfortable and a bit faster on the PCX, but I wouldn't change the experience that I had on the Cub... it was FANTASTIC! I am planning to ride my PCX up to Arkansas and Missouri in mid-September, so that will be another ~2000-mile trip. I will be sure to mentally compare the PCX to the SC again many times during that trip, and I'll relay my opinions in some upcoming videos. Cheers! 😉👍 --QM
Just picked one up last week. Love it.
Which one did you get, the PCX or a Super Cub? Both are great bikes, so you win either way! 👍 --QM
Sorry was away for a few weeks. I picked up the super cub.
@@racoming1035 Congrats on the new Super Cub! How do you like it so far... have you put any miles on it yet? --QM
I love it for what it is. Got about 400 miles on it now. I had it in the Delaware water gap last week.
What is the use of that 3-4inch tab sticking out from the throttle? I own a couple big touring bikes but I 'm thinking about a little scooter for local trips. Thanks.
That is the Go Cruise 7/8" throttle lock: www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00TIEATVY . I have these cruise controls installed on most of my bikes because they're cheap, simple, and they really work! I prefer these over the fancier throttle locks (e.g. Kaoko, Atlas, etc) because the other types hold the throttle tube in both directions (on/off) instead of just the off (downward) direction. The ability to roll-on the throttle for passing and then let it go to return to your previous setting is a huge benefit over the other types. Cheers! 👍 --QM
That was a good comparison. 150 kit for the Cub? What happened to the windscreen, did it not work out?
I think that a 150-200cc Cub would be great, if Honda would release one. I'm always skeptical about the aftermarket big-bore kits because of the reliability issues... not to mention that they get really expensive with all of the add-on bits (e.g. fuel controllers, oil coolers, etc). I would much prefer to see Honda bring some of their excellent small-diaplacement bikes over from the Asian and south American markets. Those bikes are tried and true, with long track records for reliability. One of those air-cooled motors could probably be shoved into the Cub and be paired up with a slightly longer swingarm to make a Touring Cub... what a blast that would be!
I never received the replacement parts for my Givi mounting kit, so I ordered another kit from Ebay. I haven't received the tracking info for that yet, but I'm hoping to receive that in the next week or two. I'll make another install video for the screen when that arrives I'll also show the replacement of the leg shield and some minor electrical work for adding the driving lights and a USB charger for my phone mount. --QM
I remembered something today while getting ready to mow the lawn. Sweat... I got the mower out of the very hot shed (95 outside) and drove it to the garage to air up the flat tire. While that was happening the seat was cooking in the sun. When I was ready to mow the lawn I was pretty much burning my buttox quite a bit. Since you also live in Texas, where it is hot. Do you have any issues with sweat while riding? Side questions. What do you think the maintenance cost over 40,000 miles would be, between the two. Do either have to warm up? I remember riding my old dirtbike in some very cold weather and it essentially never warmed up, even with the choke on. Thanks, your videos on this subject have been a real treat.
Oh, yeah... I feel ya! It's always hot down here in the Gulf Coast area, so I'm always dealing with broiled buns (and every other body part). For sweat management, I have four words for you: Gold Bond Body Powder. That stuff is magic for managing odor and sweat to some extent. I put it in my shorts, socks, gloves, and boots to keep things from getting too funky. The other item that I use for long trips is the AirHawk seat pad... the honeycomb nylon mesh cover allows air circulation to prevent "Monkey Butt", and it cools off fast even if your bike has been sitting in the sun for a while. Other than those tricks, I just use layers of clothes (e.g. athletic under-shirts to avoid sweat-through), and I wear high-flow mesh riding jacket and gloves.
As for the Super Cub's maintenance over ~40K miles, I would suspect that it's extremely low. The PCX150 is also a low-maintenance machine, but it will consume a bit more fuel and the CVT belt needs to be replaced every ~12K miles. If you maintain both bikes equally (e.g. oil changes, tire upkeep, chain maintenance), I'm sure that the Super Cub will have lower maintenance and operating costs. I have ~1200 miles on my Cub so far, and the only maintenance costs have been the oil changes and fuel (if you ignore the road rash damage from my son's little episode).
Warm up times are similar for both machines, but that routine is just a habit on my part to keep the mechanicals happy. They are both fuel injected, so there is no cold-start or carburetor choke to worry about... they are ready to roll immediately after you fire them up to life. I typically wait about a minute or so before I start riding... just start the motor while I'm donning my helmet and gloves, and that's about it.
@@QuasiMotard What happened to the 1,000 mile review/update video?
Good catch! I got busy with work and family issues, and that slipped by. I have ~1300 miles on my Cub now, and I will be doing a follow-up and "owner's opinion" shortly! I really enjoy the Super Cub and I don't have any real complaints about it... just a minor adjustment for the shift lever and replacing the OEM mirrors... that's it! --QM
@@QuasiMotard I'm at 650 miles and wouldn't trade my Super Cub for anything. Other than a few oil flushes and tightening the chain a time or 2, it's performed flawlessly. Gas mileage is incredible for a 125! Looking forward to the upcoming video, and thanks!
Which type of helmet is your favorite ? Open chin or fully covered ? @ 6:00 I came to realize the PCX is a better choice. Thanks.
I always ride with a full-face or a modular (flip-up) helmet. Open face helmets allow too much air flow and road debris (e.g. rocks, sand, insects) to the chin area. An open face helmet also doesn't provide any protection for the chin in an accident. I raced motocross, supercross, and superbikes for many years and I've been down many times on the track. Several of those events resulted in broken chin bars on my helmets, so they protected my face... otherwise the broken chin would have been mine! 😉👍 --QM
I’d love to make a run with my Vespa GTS 300 SuperTech to see how it compares. Pretty sure it would pull away but how much.
The Vespa GTS is a much faster scoot, so it would leave these two in its dust. This comparison was intended to show the relative speed and power differences between the Super Cub C125 and the PCX150 because they fill similar roles for first time riders and as entry-level commuters. --QM
Super Cub #482 owner here. How about a video detailing your camping / touring setup - what you take, how it's packed, do's and don'ts, etc? This would be a great help to those of us that own a Super Cub and are interested in camping or light touring on one.
Howdy, sir... and congrats on the Cub! Mine is #437. I will try to put a minimalist motocamping load-out video together for other Cub campers and/or scampers (scooter campers). I find that the Cub and other small bikes require a different mindset for motocamping, where you really focus on keeping it light and taking only the necessities. Their lower power makes every extra pound really count against you, and the available space for gear is typically very limited.
If you haven't already watched them, you might be interested in my series on the Cub's first motocamping trip ( Part 1 - czcams.com/video/_uSh6S6tDfM/video.html , Part 2 - czcams.com/video/_qngD8coUkI/video.html , Part 3 - czcams.com/video/3Ye8ElbYhnU/video.html ). Those videos were left very long (not too many cuts/edits) so people could get a "feel" for the Cub and see how it behaved on the back roads. It was still under the break-in period, so I took it easy on the motor during that trip. The next long outing that the Cub took was the trip to Austin, TX for the MotoGP at COTA ( czcams.com/video/QGVTxU-sdvA/video.html ). There wasn't any light packing on that trip... I took everything except the kitchen sink on that ride just to see if it could be done. 😉 --QM
@@QuasiMotard Yes, I've watched all of your videos on the Cub. Very informative and helpful. Thanks for the reply, and looking forward to a new video. Keep up the good work, Sir!
if i could afford both i would but ill wait into i get to virgina to get one hopefuly a honda pcx 150 but im only 5ft 8inch so i wonder if it be too big or just right?
I'm 5'7", 30" inseam, and about 165-170 lbs riding weight. The PCX150 and ADV150 both fit me just fine, so you should also fit it very well. The Super Cub is a smaller machine, but it's still very capable of hauling 6'2" 240 lb riders without any problems. 😉👍 --QM
With the not starting thing the manual says if the throttle is moved at all it will not start , so maybe it was that and not the gear. Can't test it, mine doesn't get here till wendsday .
Did you get your Super Cub yet? If so, how do you like it? I still haven't reviewed my Taco Bell video to see how I tried the stop/start... I need to do that. I'll try a full suite of tests on the start/stop tomorrow to figure out what works and what doesn't. --QM
@@QuasiMotard I did ! I just got it wendsday Night but left for a trip on Thursday so I only have 30 miles on it. I love it, took me a little to figure out the smart key. I have only tried starting in neutral so i have not testing anything either. I just read the entire ADV rider super cub post, seems a few people are having some odd problems in the earlier vin numbers. Nothing serious just hiccups here and there.
I really wondering about differences between supercub 110 and 125. Cause price of 125cc is double ... is it worth it
We don't have the Cub 110cc here in the United States, so I can't make any direct comparisons. However, the power difference between the two engines isn't that drastic, and the top speed will probably only be about 5-10 mph higher with the 125cc engine. The C125 does have fuel injection and ABS brakes, so that might be worth the upgrade if you need those things. Cheers! 👍 --QM
So for a daily commute would you recommend the pcx over the Cub because of the acceleration and storage. Other than looks what are the advantages of the cub ??
That's still a hard decision to make, and it really depends on your riding needs. The PCX is certainly more suitable as a commuter for many reasons (e.g. fuel capacity, acceleration, weather protection, built-in storage under the seat, etc). You can commute with the PCX immediately without needing to add or upgrade anything. It's a scooter, and they excel at practicality.
The Cub is more fun and engaging to ride because of the semi-automatic transmission and chain drive (no rubber-band feel). The Cub definitely handles better and soaks up bumps better than the PCX. The Cub also has higher fuel efficiency by large percentage (around 135 mpg vs 100 mpg), but shorter range between fill-ups (only about 120 miles vs 200+ for the PCX). These bikes are very economical, so we're just disputing fractions of a penny per mile here.
In the end, you really need to ride both bikes in your intended environment to see which fits you better and which one is more "livable"... not to be outgrown too quickly. I have the luxury of owning multiple bikes, so I can choose the right tool for the job of the day. If speed and cargo capacity aren't deciding factors, then I choose the Cub over the PCX every time because of the fun factor. I can get my speed fix from my other machines. 👍😉 --QM
I love my 2013 PCX 150 and, unmodified except for a new medium height GP windshield, it si stock down the every performance aspect. In fact, I have new tires on the way because it still has the original 7 year old tires on it and they are starting to dry rot a bit. I recently had my Honda Powersports dealer tune her up and, although I'm 5'11" and 270 lbs, I cruise at 65 across the local county highway and have hit 75 once on her (downhill and tail wind of course) without issue other than the PITA butt pain from that hump on the first gen PCX 150 seat.
As you point out though, cross winds are scary on her and, you didn't point out, having a semi pass you at 75 feels like it's going to suck you under.
Agreed... the PCX150's are great machines! We took my PCX's on a 1600-mile trip through the Ozarks in Arkansas for Memorial Day this year ( czcams.com/video/_hKgxFxoFCc/video.html ), and the scoots performed flawlessly. The 2015 and later models have a different final drive ratio that reduced their speed just a bit vs the pre-2015 models. However, I upgraded the variators in both bikes, and that raised our top speeds to 71-74 MPH (drag-limited). I think I saw 76 MPH out of the 2015 one time on a downhill run.
I don't notice the buffeting from large trucks passing too often, but I'm used to that from decades of riding. The occasions that I do notice it is when trailing large trucks in their wake... my larger windscreens tend to act like sails and the front of the bike will shimmy around side-to-side a bit because of the turbulent air. Cheers! 👍 --QM
I’m a bigger guy too. I was wondering how the pcx held up for us.
Which model you'd recommend I don't trust 2019 version
Which model of PCX? I currently own the 2015 and 2016 PCX150's, so they are both the same generation of bike. The next revision is the 2019 that received lots of updates:
- new twin-spar chassis
- upgraded LED headlight/taillight
- full digital LED/LCD instruments
- new motor with a slightly lower displacement (149cc vs 153cc in older version) but higher efficiency
- ABS for front brake (still drum brake in the rear)
- new wheel design and larger tires
- new bodywork and longer leg/foot area, etc, etc
You really can't go wrong with any Honda in my opinion. Where the PCX is concerned, this is just an upgrade to an existing design, so it isn't a completely new platform... the new model design issues/flaws shouldn't be too much of an issue here. --QM
Never about speed, always about style. I get 107 mpg are you getting about the same?
I am averaging about 128 mpg on the Cub and about 104 mpg on the 2016 PCX150. When I ride the Cub conservatively, it gets over 140 mpg. The PCX is usually ridden by my son, and he rides it harder than I do... I can achieve around 115-118 mpg on the PCX with conservative riding. --QM
nice to see someone with the tall windshield, I've never seen anyone using one here in Portugal, guess I'm the only one in a big area
Greetings from the USA! The windshield makes a big difference for long highway rides... it takes the wind pressure off of your torso and lets you enjoy the ride! The PCX is an extremely popular bike in Portugal, isn't it? Do you have the PCX125 or the PCX150? I remember watching a review by @CagerOnTwoWheels several years ago where he mentioned that the PCX125 is very popular because riders didn't need a special motorcycle license to ride it. Cheers! 👍 --QM
acabo de comprar uma,esta satisfeito?
Good comparison, seems like the Cub is underpowered to me... in NY where I live, there are alot of hills, I doubt the Cub will perform like I want it to, my Kymco People 150 will remain with me for now. Two of my local Honda dealers keep calling with Cubs in their inventory...I wonder why they cant sell the Cub around here, I may have my answer now. also, how much of a difference in weight are you guys?
My Smax 155 will cruise 70 MPH all day long, maxes out at 75 ... GPS indicated. Speedo shows 80.
My son and I are within about 10 pounds of each other (I'm about 7 lbs heavier), so that shouldn't affect these results too much. The Cub really isn't in the same performance class as the 150cc scooters. The Cub's 125cc air-cooled motor runs lower compression (9.3:1 for the Cub vs 10.6:1 for the PCX) and produces much less power (8.1 hp) than the PCX150 (13.5 hp). There is a 60% difference in power, so this isn't an apples-to-apples comparison by any stretch of the imagination. A closer comparison would be the Super Cub vs Honda Grom (basically the same motor) or vs the Kawasaki Z125 Pro... they have similar displacement, engine construction (air-cooled), and power output. I only made this comparison because I happen to own both bikes, and they are both in the lower end of Honda's street bike lineup. I think that they will both attract similar buyers/riders, so I wanted to show the differences between them for general usability and commute-ability.
If I don't need to go very fast or carry lots of stuff with me, then I choose the Cub every time. I guess it's just the fun factor and knowing that the Cub is so CRAZY efficient on fuel. 😉 --QM
@@QuasiMotard as much as I like the style of the old Cubs, it wouldn't really work out in my area, just too many hills and obnoxious drivers, I'd be afraid I'd get run off the road... also I'm no lightweight at 250 lbs so that would also slow things down. I like the style of the Cub but I think it needs more power for "me" and my area. If I lived where most roads were flat it would be a different story but around here in NY, it's not the right choice. I dont ride my kymco too much because of that reason... just around town, but the kymco was $600 used... a new Cub around here cost $4540 out the door... big difference...lol
Yeah, I've mentioned it before... I would love to see Honda release a SUPER Super Cub or a "Touring Cub" that has a 200-250cc motor with 5-6 speeds (normal clutch or semi-auto), a slightly longer swingarm, and an adjusted steering rake for better high-speed stability. The larger motor would give the Cub true highway capability and the ability to carry a passenger without straining. The larger motor would obviously need a larger fuel tank, but the changes to the chassis should be relatively minor. Of course, Honda has other scooters in their lineup, but the Cub is technically an "underbone motorcycle" and not a scooter (gears/chain vs CVT/belt drive). There aren't any other scooters that have the retro look or appeal unless you go Italian (e.g. Aprilia, Piaggio, Vespa, etc), and their prices are roughly twice what the Cub costs. It'll probably never happen, but I can dream... 😉 --QM
@@QuasiMotard Then it wouldn't be a Cub any more. The essence of the Cub is that it weighs "nothing" and not enough HP to get you into trouble. With more HP and speed, you begin to come into real motorcycle territory, where you want to overtake cars doing the speed limit. Then you get to where 100HP is considered "adequate"
On the downshifts, I have found if you roll back your ankle slowly, like letting out a clutch on a car, it is pretty smooth, even for 1st gear.
Absolutely! I realized how effective the heel shifter is for slowly releasing if you're actually using your heel (not the toe). After I adjusted my shifter angle/height, it became apparent and I never use the toe to upshift anymore. The heel action lets you articulate the motion much finer than with the toe (using larger calf muscles vs the smaller flexors on the front of the calf). --QM
I'm based in Thailand and cubs are ridden completely differently out here. They shift from 4th to 1st and use the brakes to slow down. No gearing down whatsoever.
I didn't know about the cylindrical design until I was told by the local dealer. Downshifting on the cub is considered dangerous.
@@mickfitz76 Apparently, the Cub's shift drum is different in the USA than in other parts of the world. Our shift pattern is "N-1-2-3-4", down shifts are on the toe, and upshifts are on the heel... and there is no wrap-around to "N". I would like the option to wrap back to "N" from 4th gear at a stop... that would be very handy for most stop-and-go traffic situations. I always downshift my bikes out of habit (40+ years of riding), and also to avoid the problem of being stuck between gears. I have noticed that my Cub can hang between gears sometimes if I try to mash down from 4th to 1st at a stop (the gear indicator flashes "--" when this happens). --QM
@@QuasiMotard Yes. It's very strange the cylindrical design. We go up through the gears using the toes. You have to option to gear back down with the heal or neutral by shifting with the toe again.
I still downshift down to second but not first gear.
@@mickfitz76 The U.S. version shifts like a regular motorcycle which the shift patterns are reversed from the rest of the world. It's why we have a different shift lever which can allow us to shift up and down with the toe of the boot. We have to go through the full shift pattern to get to 1st to 4th.and 4th down to 1st. No short cut.
very nice and Im a PCX150 owner and I love it!!! My 2018 PCX150 gets alot of speed (max I got mine is at 65mph up hills) and has a very fast pickup..I say buy only Japanese scooter and not Chinese bc they break down alot and parts are had to get..Get a Honda scooter type if your looking for one!!
Droneman Productions i definitely won’t pretend that japanese bikes aren’t superior but I’ve had very good reliability from chinese scooters. They’re incredibly easy to work on and I’ve found parts to be easy to find and dirt cheap at that. They pretty much all use a variant the same engine too. They have a couple initial things to address but after that, you should be good. My current one is nearing 10kkm and 8k of that is on a $70 bore kit. Ive done nothing but regular oil changes. Ive owned three of them and my worst mechanical failure was a shattered piston from an overheat (my fault, i knew it was running lean from a new air filter) this required a complete rebuild to remove the schrapnal which took an afternoon and $80 ($70 top end kit and gaskets) that one ran well with no more issues for ~3kkm before it was stolen. The other was several years ago and was kept stock. I only put maybe 2kkm on it before selling but again, it was just fine with basic maintenance.
@@jseden im glad to hear that but my Honda scooter is very easy to fix I I had a problem..thanks for your comment and keep then coming my friend!
@@jseden check your channel and I want to tell you Im giving a sub to support and thanks again my new friend!!
Droneman Productions Thanks i appreciate it! My channel is really just a depository for random videos I wanna upload for whatever reason lol.. reminds me those taotao vids turned out to be a bad CDI. That’s the scoot that got stolen.. I’d forgotten about that problem. These days I’m on a honda too, rebel250 but i still own and sometimes use the China scoot.
Ride safe!
Thats strange that the pcx hits the rev limiter at 65! It should be able to go up to 70-75.. maybe put in some heavier rollers?
All of the 2015-2019 PCX150's hit the factory rev-limiter at 62-63 mph. I installed a Dr.Pulley performance variator and sliders in my 2015 PCX, and that bumped the top speed to a drag-limited 72-74 mph. The newer PCX 160's have a more powerful engine (4-valve head with higher compression), so they can reportedly reach 72-76 mph in factory trim. Cheers! 😉👍 --QM
@@QuasiMotard thanks, i have an old Honda nes125 from 2001. Also does 63mph gps. So I thought a 150 would be way faster
Beautiful neighborhood bud
Man he smoked you lol was this before the CVT upgrade ? The Pcx Looks good. Runnin down the highway have you seen the 2021 ? A 180cc pcx would be awesome if only Honda would build one
Yeah, this isn't really a fair comparison (or race) because the PCX's motor makes about 60% more power than the Cub. This video was recorded before I upgraded the PCX's variator, so it accelerates a just a bit quicker now and the top speed has increased to ~73 MPH. 😉👍 --QM
CVT will always win in small capacity bikes and cars.
Constant power against power off Change gear power on .
The maxi scooters are really quick off the mark even along side some sporty bikes
Agreed. As I noted in the video description, this isn't really a fair race. The PCX's motor makes about 60% more power (13.5 HP vs only 8.1 HP for the Cub). The CVT bikes/scoots can surprise a lot of cars and bikes with their acceleration. I have a Can-Am Ryker Rally 900 and also a SilverWing 600 that are both very quick off the line. Cheers! 👍 --QM
I did more on my 110 cc cub )) but was scary)
on the 150 vs 125 what is the weight difference of the riders? LOL
I weigh about 160-165 pounds in this video (170 pounds with my riding jacket and normal riding boots), and my son weighs about 150-155 pounds... so there is only about a 10 pound difference in rider weights. The PCX's motor makes about 60% more power, so this isn't an "apples-to-apples" comparison by any measure. --QM
I would take the PCX all day over the Cub.
Could you explain why? Thanks.
@@benkenny3220 the ride, power, storage space,, comfort and price for all those things is better.
Agreed on all points... for a commuter, the PCX150 is definitely the better tool. However, the Cub is still more fun to ride, IMHO. If you haven't ridden one, then you should give one a try... the Cub is really a blast to ride. Now that I own a Cub, I understand why Honda has sold 100M+ of these things... they really are fun and simple to operate. --QM
@@QuasiMotard I agree. Nothing rides like the cub. It will out corner almost anything at its limits.
I changed out the rear shocks and put a set of Pirelli Diablo's on it.
Wouldn't swap it for a soulless PCX.
Not surprising. I have a SH150 and it is much faster than the Cub.
Agreed. The SH150 is a great scoot, too. The CVT really helps with the acceleration because it keeps the motor in the torque peak throughout the rev range. The water-cooled 150cc motors are also producing significantly more power than the air-cooled 125cc motor in the Cub. The Cub is really not in the same class as these scooters for many reasons. I decided to compare them head-to-head because they are at the lowest end of Honda's displacement lineup, and both of them will likely attract the same types of riders. --QM