Why are toll booths going away?
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- čas přidán 27. 07. 2024
- Toll agencies are tearing down staffed booths (cash lanes) because they are dangerous and slow. Instead, we have to start using electronic toll collection (ETC) -- those special transponder passes. But most toll passes won't work out of state. With no toll booths, how do you pay when you are on vacation?
I speak with Samuel Johnson, the chief operations officer for a southern California toll road agency (The Toll Roads - TCA), about a cool new technology which will soon make paying a toll easier than ever. It's called electronic toll interoperability, and it's all possible with a tiny sticker.
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Source material:
IBTTA: North American Toll Interoperability
www.ibtta.org/sites/default/f...
IBTTA: Status of Toll Interoperability (2016)
www.ibtta.org/sites/default/f...
Federal Highway Administration: Moving Ahead for Progress in the 21st Century
www.fhwa.dot.gov/map21/summar...
TCA: The Future of FasTrak is Here
• The Future of FasTrak ...
KCBS: OC Toll Road Commuters Face Last Day To Pay With Cash
• OC Toll Road Commuters...
WFLA: Florida Man Caught With License Plate Shield
• Florida man caught wit...
WFOR: Police Arrest Man Caught Using License Plate Cover
• Police Arrest Man Caug...
Orange County Register: 20,000 drivers dodge toll road fees each week, despite new law
www.ocregister.com/2019/05/17...
The Press-Enterprise: Orange County Toll Roads Going Cashless May 14
www.pe.com/2014/04/15/transpo...
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Additional reading (for the electrical engineering ultra-geeks):
ISO 18000-63 ("6C") Technical Data:
www.iso.org/obp/ui/#iso:std:i...
Why agencies selected 6C as the national standard:
www.ibtta.org/sites/default/f... - Auta a dopravní prostředky
On the one hand I feel sorry for that old woman for getting lost on the wrong road and not having a human to talk to about it, but also: *"BuT i DoNt WaNNa PaY a BiLL"*
I don't know about that road, but the toll bridge near where I live has signs for miles before, and even says last exit before toll. And that's all for a 50 cent toll, I'd imagine it would have the same if not better signage for the road he was on.
@Marco Zepeda yeah, a gps app, such as Google maps, but there's also Waze and tons of others I haven't heard of, I'm sure
I'm a toll collector. That lady gave me really annoying work vibes.
@ScarceCastle2 Nobody wants to be stolen from. We were told "Toll free in '73" by the Illinois governor and now it's 2021, the toll booths have permanent structures built into them, and over $1.7 billion dollars is stolen from toll goers annually according to the 2018 Illinois toll report. Lies on top of lies
@@Tracert-mc1hu The Tacoma narrows bridge is more like $7 one way (the other way is free.) They warn you though, must pay attention, which is not a bad idea while driving anyway.
They should make the EZpass national. Everywhere from Illinois to New England already accepts it.
@Jake Spindler That's not EZ Pass, that's whatever state DOT you're getting your tag from. For example, Virginia has a deposit for the tag, a minimum balance requirement, a credit card on file for automatic replenishment, and an annual "inactive" fee if you don't use it in 12 months. But over the boarder in West Virginia, they don't have a deposit or a minimum balance, but you do pay an annual usage fee of $35, but that also lets you use the WV Turnpike for free. So, in three or four round trips, it pays for itself.
And Ontario with our overpriced 407
Personally, I won't drive in interstates It takes a lot longer to get where you're going, but hey, no tolls
I'm using I-Pass for 2 years (EZ-Pass version of Illinois). No maintenance fee and no minimum balance. Very convenient !! Changed address to NJ. Still works great!
@Jake Spindler
In Florida there’s no fee to have a SunPass and it gives you discounts up to 25% vs using cash.
As a trucker I’ve been driving for about 2 &1/2 years. I’ve always wanted to know how different DOT truck weight stations on highways really work.
I'm NOT a truck driver but I'm still interested in this too.
You should probably take a break.
It would be cool if he made a video about pre pass.
EZ-Pass should be nationwide since so many states already use it, and they should leverage Fastrak's 6C sticker technology to get there.
E-ZPass is the closest thing to a national pass in the USA at this time. The non E-ZPass states only work in one state or one region.
There is a thing called Uni (originally E-Pass Xtra) sold by Central Florida Expressway Authority (started being sold last year). www.cfxway.com/uni/ it works in 18 states (out west to IL, KY I think)
The East coast is nuts. So many toll roads lmaooo. And I'm pretty sure taxes out there aren't cheap.
@@boosteddaily1294 there's other routes you just gotta set your navigation app to "avoid toll roads" and give yourself some extra time.
Unless if you're driving into NYC, yeah it costs like $15 or something just to get into the city by car but for the most part if you're not in the cities like NYC, Philly, DC you can avoid it pretty easily.
NJ property taxes are high so a lot of people live in PA and commute to NJ or NYC because the cost of living is lower here. Idk how much that helps just stuff I've noticed living here
@@Lrix The parts of the east coast I visited were very nice to me. I've been to Philly, and traveled on the freeways? and turnpike on the south/west part of New Jersey. I really liked that area. I'll try to copy my source but it was a youtube commentor and he said, he bought a home for 185,000 dollars and he pays or will pay 8,500 a year in property taxes in New Jersey! That's a lot.
@@boosteddaily1294 I live in upstate NY and our property tax is among the worst in the country. The upside is housing costs are relatively cheap unless you live near NYC (I live clear the other end of the state nearly 400 miles from NYC). My property tax on about a $200K house is about $5,400 a year, but I just live in the town and not the village, so I avoid village tax, which would add an extra $2K or so. As a comparison, I know a guy who has a $230K house in Colorado that pays about $1,300 in property tax. However, his $230K house is about 1,400 square feet on a 1/8 acre plot, where mine is about 1,800 square feet on about 2/3 acre, plus I have a ~400 sq ft. outbuilding with electric (which admittedly adds to my property tax, but not significantly) So you get more for your money here in terms of property, but the taxes are terrible.
The agency in 2019: "Maybe next year"
2020: "yes"
All of my local toll booths have been 100% cashless since the start of the pandemic
yep, pa turnpike toll booths just take a picture of your plate now if you dont have ezpass. all of the toll roads around me in maryland and virginia have been cashless for years now.
in my state we just had a cutover earlier this month beginning cashless tolling only across the entire state. have yet to try it though lol
sometimes for me its easier to pay in cash than with the tag lol. especially with NYC
Its fake
@@nicktune1219 I'm sure it may have changed by now, but used to Alaska treated that as private info and wouldn't share your identity. Effectively, if your car was registered in Alaska, all license plate tolls were free.
Source: my Uncle who registers all his vehicles to his summer home in Alaska for this reason.
For someone who lives in a state without toll roads, I am confused as to why we wouldn't have a standard toll-pass already...
That's the government for you.
People are afraid of toll booths ever since Godfather part 1.
tommy vercetti. sonny montana. vito escobar
@ Latticewood : Well, the video _said_ tollbooths were dangerous! 😲
Was that a tollbooth? I always thought it was a security guard booth. The way the road was set up in the scene it seemed way more like the latter
@@GiantsRTheBest1 yes it was, supposedly for the bridge connecting Long Beach with Queens.
I live where there no toll roads. Once every 2-3 years I pass through a toll route. I cannot justify setting up an account that costs money.
I moved to a new place this past year and we have toll roads here but I haven't seen the need to use them. Only a few times would have it really have benefited me and saving 5-10 minutes isn't worth the hassle of signing up etc. Maybe I could be sold but I haven't looked into the costs yet.
You don't need to set up your account in the state where you live if it is a multi-state system. Ohio has upfront costs and maintenance fees (at least it used to) but on a trip to the east coast I set up an EZ-Pass account at a PA rest stop. They do want to maintain a minimum balance of $25 to $35 in the account, but no upfront cost and no maintenance fees. Besides convenience (huge) the EZ-Pass tolls are less than paying at each toll booth. One one-week long trip through several eastern states saved me more than the $35. A few years ago we moved to home near the Ohio Turnpike and use it a couple of times per month.
Ultimately the fault of road tolling is that its meaningless for the average driver. You see a toll road coming up and you pay it. Your behavior hasn't changed nor have you alleviated any traffic on the route. I think that commercial drivers should pay tolls (which is already done via truck stops) and workers should be paid for their commute times along with distributed first and last hour shift. say come in at 7:15 and out at 4:15 while another firm might use 7:30 to 4:30.
@@Furiends When I plan my route with my TomTom GPS, it asks if I want to avoid the toll road. I generally don't as I want the fastest trip. But, I could and often the non-toll trip is only couple minutes longer.
@@Furiends Tolls are mainly to fund the transportation projects. Building new ones or maintaining old ones.
Interesting. My family and I just found out about “pay by plate” while planning a trip this summer. According to official websites with toll info, we will have a 48 hours to pay the tolls online. It will be interesting to see how well it works.
The only thing about pay by plate is it takes a while for them to send the bill. Atleast in the northeast with the NY Thruway and Mass Pike. When the bill arrived i just scanned the QR code and was taker right to the website. I eventually bought an easypass because its cheaper in the long run, but pay by plate is awesome if you only use the highway once in a blue moon.
I feel I just remembered I have a pay by plate in Florida. I live in Kentucky and haven’t been sent a bill. It’s been 2 months!
Sometimes they don’t send a bill until it’s a fine… Logon online and check for it there, don’t just assume since you haven’t been contacted you aren’t going to get a bill. It’s not fun I know!
@@jasonreed7522 agreed. I traveled on I-90 a several months back and took like 2+ months to get the toll charge in the mail. Kind of pissed me off seeing an “administration fee” of $2 and change. Normally from Syracuse to Rochester it was $3.65 each way, but now it’s like $10
@@joeylantis22 I tried that because i was bored and Flordia never mailed me the (several) tolls i didnt have change to pay when i was there and the site just won't accept my license number so i can assume that's why i never got it. Perks of having a motorcycle i guess...
1:12 - "The change in your ashtray" -
Bonded therein by melted ChapStick.
bonded together by sticky remnants of soda
Who has an ash tray you just toss them out the window now.
@Professional shit poster Remember how long it took them to put cup holders in cars? Now they are close to flushing out your "throttle" while you're driving and having phone sex. Finally tossing the used condom out the window, only to land on the windsheild of the driver behind you, while you suck down a cigarette. You thought that driver was annoyed when your windsheild washer fluid flew up over your roof onto their windsh'eild? lol
The person you interviewed was very knowledgeable about this matter
Thanks for sharing this
I'm so happy my state doesn't charge tolls... Too bad every state bordering me does
Connecticut? Things could change any day now.
2 options to drive the free route or drive faster. big decision lol. not.
@@mirzaahmed6589 They used to though. The Connecticut Turnpike, I-395 and I-95, and the Merritt Parkway were toll roads.
NC here. Pretty sure the only toll road we have is a section of the 540 beltline around Raleigh. Fully electronic bill by mail which makes it a piece of cake if you happen to go through it, plenty of other viable alternatives if you don't want to pay. Hell, one of the biggest intersections is right near the end of the free part. Everything east of that is also free. I've literally used the toll section twice, both by accident
@@jonstefanik9400 finally a state that actually held up on the deal to remove tolls. Wish more states listened.
Delaware and Maryland, I’m looking at you. JFK Highway’s tolls should be long gone by now.
The hardcase version of the North Carolina QuickPass is compatible with E-ZPass in the northeast, the Peach Pass in Georgia and the SunPass/E-Pass in Florida.
One drawback to sticker transponders is their inability to be moved to a new vehicle once they are placed on a windshield. So if you are going to be using a rental car, you cannot take your sticker transponder with you to pay tolls.
Could keep it on the clear plastic, will still work.
Toll roads are literally a monopoly that is sanctioned and protected by the state.
Correct
This is what happens when we want better roads, but won't raise taxes to pay for them.
Too bad the money that you pay on the toll road in Illinois and Indiana goes to a foreign country which owns the toll road
@@dennistrouten4418 Which country?
@@senorsiro3748 take one big asian guess
because we are not already paying billions in road taxes?
Exactly! Taxed to death and you still have to pay tolls!
They charge taxes that are specifically supposed to be for the roads and then they want to charge people to drive on special roads. its a scam
Oh, sorry sir. We used all that funding to get myself a haircut. Maybe next year.
Complaining about taxes is why this happens. The volume of roads and repairs needed exceeds the amount of money collected from taxes. Roads are expensive. If you don't like it, try living without them.
@@AlexandarHullRichter, no. You already pay massive amounts of road tax as well as other taxes. This is just another way for the greedy government to extort more money out of you.
When he said toll roads in Oregon I laughed. We only had 1 for the longest time, an old 2 lane bridge that crossed the columbia river into washington.
That bridge is still collecting tolls, right? I assume you mean the one at Hood River. I was surprised a couple summers ago when they didn't even accept cards. Just cash.
@@johnchedsey1306 the bridge I'm talking about is called Bridge of the Gods in Cascade Locks. From what I remember, they except cash only but I haven't been across it in a few years though.
Oh gosh. My bad. I should know better (lived in NE Portland for a couple of years).
Subconsciously, I was thinking the 99E bypass was tolled (ODOT considered doing so at one point).
It's a backwards idea that should have been killed ages ago. Privatizing basic transport is absurd.
@@johnchedsey1306 like Atlantic Bridge 🌉 in long Beach long Island, they won't take Easy pass but cash only, corruption on the local level.
Your content is grade A. You deserve a million subscribers. Looks like we might be neighbors too. I live in Rancho Cucamonga and I see you do a lot of filming in the area. Keep up the great work! We’re watching and enjoying!
i dont work here lady
"i dont wanna pay a bill"
You'll pay a bill and like it, lady!
Interesting video, Rob! A few points: license plate recognition doesn't actually have as many drawbacks as you may think. The technology is accurate enough that 99.5%+ of plates are read accurately (look at ANPR stats in the UK). The issue with license plate based systems is a legal one; jurisdictional issues complicate the collection of toll amounts owing. Each state or toll road operator must work within enabling legislation to collect and enforce toll amounts due, even across jurisdictional lines (i.e. a New York plated vehicle must be traceable by a Florida toll road). This requires agreements between governments and many other parties, and the risk of consumer led legal action on privacy grounds, for example, is not minimal. Another point: the risk to privacy is real, considering electronic systems will store your whereabouts based on license plate readers, at all times. To avoid this caveat and comply with legislation, EU toll operators in some countries have installed a lane where users can drive through, and then get off the toll road at designated spots and pay their amounts due, and a copy of the recording of their plate is destroyed immediately. Alternatively, they may buy with cash a special transponder, which is used instead of the license plate reader in a given lane - the camera system for that lane stores plate info only for 24 hours on a loop, and only manually flagged video (say, if someone uses the lane to cheat the toll) is retained.
E-Z pass worked all the way from Maine to Florida on a recent trip. I got a bill for using a Sun Pass equipped road on a side trip while I was there. I think it's funny that their solution for standardization was to come up with another new transponder tag they'll try to get everyone to accept instead of adopting the most popular of the existing standards.
Here is a smart concept. Don't charge any toll...Michigan is smart. They never had any toll booths on any of their Michigan is smart. They never had any toll booths on any of their highways. Never. That's right no charges to travel in michigan. Never. That's right no charges to travel in michigan
@@MichiganUSASingaporeSEAsia How many times are you going to repeat this? Yikes!
@@MichiganUSASingaporeSEAsia heres my opinion a majority of highways and potential freeways should have tolls that pay for that road and the infrastructure business could own the it but they would have to be inspected and have to follow some laws. The money that would go to highways would go to expanding and funding public and semi public transportation.
@@MichiganUSASingaporeSEAsia they do charge though
I've lived in Ohio for 25 years and I've never once even seen a toll road so I'm learning a lot! Thanks Rob!
We have one. The Ohio Turnpike runs across the northern part of the state. Its a bit different than the toll roads shown here though. It's limited access, so you get a ticket when you get on, you pay when you get off. You don't have to stop and pay every few miles.
@@Kurgosh1 interesting! I have heard of the Turnpike but wasn't aware that's how it worked! Thanks for the info!
west virginia has one
I remember paying the toll in person when my family drove on the 73 in Orange county back then in the late 2000s early 2010s. But once the Electronic toll collection came by we were taken aback at first but then got used to it. And its honestly so much better and easy to use as someone who doesnt have the sticker, hardcase, etc. as it just picks up on our plate as we pass through.
I think the trickiness with the sticker transponder is if you want to transfer your transponder between vehicles. With the hard case, you just move it, but you can't so easily do that with a sticker. But at the very least, if FastTrak lets you get multiple stickers w/o (excessive) extra cost, then it's almost as good.
Yeah I was glad when most of the toll roads I use finally went to toll-by-plate because of the stickers. Florida by and large got rid of the suction cup toll pucks a couple of years ago, and for a long time you could only buy the sticker ones.
Your work is unbelievably good on a subject that needs to be talked about more, infrastructure
Hiding your plate to avoid tolls is essentially shoplifting. You're stealing services/access without paying for it.
Hey Rob, Jan from Germany here! The Semitrucks here or EVERY Vehicle heavier than 7.5 metric tons has a standardised toll collection device installed, what is required by law from the factory. Sensors on Bridges or structures spanning over a highway then read the information on the device. It works via GPS and can tell how long you have been driving on the highway, how fast, and even the Police uses them to controll Truckers working time. These things are making things very easy here.
Greetings and stay healthy!
Here in FL, SunPass works also in GA with PeachPass and NC with NC Quick Pass. Probably even more locations now.
Here is a smart concept. Don't charge any toll...Michigan is smart. They never had any toll booths on any of their Michigan is smart. They never had any toll booths on any of their highways. Never. That's right no charges to travel in michigan. Never. That's right no charges to travel in michigan
I came here to say this - they implied SunPass and PeachPass aren't compatible, but I have a PeachPass and regularly use it in SunPass lanes.
@@MichiganUSASingaporeSEAsia you've said it three times but I'm still not convinced. Are you sure there's no charges to travel in Michigan?
@@MichiganUSASingaporeSEAsia yeah but then Conservatives would have to admit they were wrong about something. So I don’t see that happening any time soon.
@@MichiganUSASingaporeSEAsia And their highways show it!
Another great video, great interview, who would've thought this topic to be so interesting, great job and presentation
When you see a toll, that's when you go off roading.
Or shunpiking
There's a snowmobile that runs parralel to our toll road and you know I take that instead
What if you’re in the bay area
@@brandonb6384 Drive a carboat
@@peterjszerszen If you're taking 55 to Michigan wouldn't it be better to take 80 then exiting on either 57 or Kedzie before the toll then getting on route 6 to re-enter 94 before Calumet City? Idk just seems more easier than taking all of route 6 to Indiana and get slammed by traffic either in South Holland or by River Oaks? Or even better take 57 to Lincoln Highway Rte 30 from Matteson to Ford Heights then jump on 394 to 80-94 or Keep going on 30 til you get on either interstate 65 or if you wanna bypass most of the traffic on 80-94 SH 49 or US 421 to Michigan City. I sometimes take that route to Michigan when I try to avoid traffic and tolls at the same time. Especially the Borman under construction 65 north of 30 is also under construction.
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Thank goodness 4 years toll unification is actually here now. I have the Uni transponder from E-Pass (Central Florida Expressway Authority) and it works with E-Pass & SunPass in Florida and toll systems in 18 other states.
Another great video, Rob! When we visited Orange County a few years ago, I somehow ended up on a Toll Road, and had to go online a few days later to pay a couple of dollars. It would have been nice to automate that process.
You can - you just make an account and they'll send you a sticker. Then they just auto charge you the toll
I'm from Ohio and the toll booths I see in-state are on the on-ramp and off-ramp as opposed to on the highway itself, and I thought it was odd that most other places do it on the highway.
You're going slower on the ramp anyways and you only ever go through 2 booths, one to get on (which if you don't have a pass just involves getting a ticket), and one to get off where you put in your ticket (if you don't have an EZ-Pass) and pay based on the distance traveled, the prices for distances are listed on the ticket.
Edit: but also literally the best thing would just be to straight up get rid of toll roads
Think of the western and eastern borders going to the Indiana Toll Road or the Penna. Turnpike. Also, the toll portion of I-376 in Pennsylvania has tolls every so many miles rather than only on the ramps. I have no idea why they built it that way.
I agree, Ohio did it right.
You neglect to mention that if you didn't present a ticket upon exiting, they charge you as if you got on at the end point for your direction.
Strangely, the Florida turnpike did both. Part was booth's every so many miles, while in the wilderness (Lake Okeechobee area) they kept track of distances, probably to reduce travel time.
Oh, and in Ohio I thought they kept track of travel time, and would issue penalties for speeding. (I haven't been on the Ohio Turnpike in ten years or so.)
Here is a smart concept. Don't charge any toll...Michigan is smart. They never had any toll booths on any of their Michigan is smart. They never had any toll booths on any of their highways. Never. That's right no charges to travel in michigan. Never. That's right no charges to travel in Michigan
I think Pennsylvania Turnpike is the same way if I remember correctly. However, at the PA/OH border, there are toll booths on the actual highway. One is to pay as you're leaving the state (before crossing the state line) and the other after crossing the state line to get the ticket with the toll schedule for that state. I last drove by there in 2014 so not sure if that's still the same.
@@MichiganUSASingaporeSEAsia The Blue Water Bridge is a toll road. So is the Mackinac Bridge.
Great presentation, and I especially appreciate how often you have expert interviews. Just hopped on the Patreon wagon; keep up the great work!
The toll by plate from EZ pass in PA is a pain. My wife received a bill from them with a Late fee of $10.00 after receiving the bill. I gladly paid the bill even though she has EZ pass and thought maybe their system wasn't functioning right that day. Next month goes by received another bill in the mail with a LATE FEE of $10. They tacked on a late fee before receiving the bill. We called EZ pass and they waved the late fee and replaced my wife's EZ pass because it was from 2010. They sent her a new EZ pass and everything is ok. Apparently those EZ passes in our cars are supposed to last so long. I think the wave of the future is all toll booth gantries. Unfortunately its going to take away toll booth operator jobs.
Here is a smart concept. Don't charge any toll...Michigan is smart. They never had any toll booths on any of their Michigan is smart. They never had any toll booths on any of their highways. Never. That's right no charges to travel in michigan. Never. That's right no charges to travel in Michigan
This guy is talented. I’m subscribing only out of respect for that.
My OTR truck had two toll tags from 2016 to 2019: a NY Thruway EZPass and a BestPass "Horizon Pass." The EZPass covers almost the entire east coast and Midwest, while the Horizon Pass covered Florida, Tornado Alley, and the toll bridges in the Bay Area in NorCal (except the Golden Gate, but my rig was over 65 feet total when pulling a standard 53 foot trailer so I wasn't allowed on that bridge anyway). The only road I used regularly that wasn't compatible was the E-470 loop around Denver, but that had plate tolls. The toll roads in SoCal were also not covered, but I never had any reason to use those during my OTR career. (I think the company specifically used NY Thruway EZPasses due to significantly discounted tolls on I-90.)
NYC also disallows 18 wheelers.
@@NicholasLittlejohn Incorrect. NYC has specific routes for 53' trailers, 48' trailers are allowed 1 mile from the National Network, and the rest of the city has a 55' combined tractor trailer length limit.
And permits can be easily obtained to take 53 footers to most parts of the city.
There's also hundreds of miles of New York toll roads outside New York City itself.
State taxes federal taxes dmv taxes fuel taxes adopt a road three tiers of government ...should I go on. I’m gunna curse
Here is a smart concept. Don't charge any toll...Michigan is smart. They never had any toll booths on any of their Michigan is smart. They never had any toll booths on any of their highways. Never. That's right no charges to travel in michigan. Never. That's right no charges to travel in michigan
@@MichiganUSASingaporeSEAsia so youve never went over the mackinaw bridge?
*Suka Blyat' intensifies*
@@scotttild Thanks, many people don't understand the concept of they're paying for it either way. All these constitutionalists act like it's their god given right to do whatever they want with no taxes and no tolls.
I remember the argument for toll roads in Houston, as soon as the road was paid off then the tolls would stop...
Decades later the roads WERE paid off but the tolls remain. The moral of the story is government LIES.
Also, just like radar works by timing the signal, computerized toll booths will be able to calculate your speed from toll spot to spot.... So how long until they start ticketing "speeders" who got to the next booth too soon?
some states would have to change laws because to combat cities using redlight cameras as revenue farms(usually with dangerously short yellows) they banned automated traffic law enforcement.
I have an EZ-Pass from Pennsylvania so I can go to Chicago, Boston, or even over the Peace Bridge into Canada (well, not right now) without using cash. It would be nice to be able to have one compatible system, although I'll probably never drive to Orange County again. Often, I fly and rent a car so the renter is generally stuck with however the rental car company chooses to rip you off for nearby toll roads.
Here is a smart concept. Don't charge any toll...Michigan is smart. They never had any toll booths on any of their Michigan is smart. They never had any toll booths on any of their highways. Never. That's right no charges to travel in michigan. Never. That's right no charges to travel in michigan
@@MichiganUSASingaporeSEAsia sing it with me one more time, you know the words by now 🎶 never ever charged. Michigan smart. Smart no charge. Never charge. Ever smart. Much Michigan. Best wow 🎶
@@MichiganUSASingaporeSEAsia Well, there is one to cross the Mackinac Bridge if you count that as a road.
You deserve more viewers, great stuff
The Girona region of Spain has also closed down toll booths. It's amazing seeing them half-demolished and the areas being used for parking (but confusing too).
The AP-68 and AP-2 are still tolls, but that's because they go through the most rural region of Spain.
The real problem is that, at least in California, they gave you no help at all figuring out the change in use. The toll booth is empty, a sign says "don't stop", which formerly would get you an expensive ticket. Nowhere does it tell you that you will be billed by your license plate. Further, when you get the bill, it says ""voilation". A small peice of paper falls out that says "this is not a violation but a bill". Add that to the fact tolls have quadrupled in the past 10 years, and no wonder people are angry.
Here is a smart concept. Don't charge any toll...Michigan is smart. They never had any toll booths on any of their Michigan is smart. They never had any toll booths on any of their highways. Never. That's right no charges to travel in michigan. Never. That's right no charges to travel in Michigan
I'm so glad that there are no toll roads around here. Everytime I have to use one it makes me angry. The roads is in the same or even worse miserable state than any other road amd I already paid that road with my taxes why should I pay for it a second time.
Maintenance. Road funding is fixed $ and doesnt increase to account for inflation. This has led to reduction in revenue to maintain all roads, not just the tolls. Your money pays for all road and bridge maintenance, not just the current toll road.
@@RichardCurrie well the inflation is also something our politicans can control or not. Whatever they choose to. But in the end the citizen is always paying more
@@no-damn-alias the thing about inflation is that you always want some. Negative inflation is extremely bad. But it's important to note that it's not things getting more expensive, but rather the money is not worth as much. If it costs 10 potatoes to maintain the road but each year you are only able to buy 10 then 9 then 8 potatoes you're going to need to find alternatives. The road maintenance tax badly needs to be increased as effective tax income has stopped significantly
czcams.com/video/Wpzvaqypav8/video.html at 12:00. Because the budget is fixed at 40c power gallon, because of inflation it's effectively dropped 40%. That videos a few years old now, so it's probably closer to 50%.
@@RichardCurrie well then we shouldn't spend it on stuff that is not really needed. Which happens more and more
GOOD NEWS: EZ-Pass will be compatible with Sun Pass and Peach Pass in the next couple of years...
Even better: The NY Thruway and the PA Turnpike are going all-electronic tolling within the next couple of years...
"Good news" to whom, actually?
Pay by plate is awful. In NY you get a two week window to pay any tolls, else they add a $100 per toll fine to your bill, and you have to go plead before a judge to ask for leniency. That is the sole reason why I got an EZ Pass. I missed the first bill by accident, and the second one was a bit of a shock. There was a guy around that time as well that made it into the news for accruing a $20,000 bill due to an outdated mailing address. Don't recall how it was resolved.
At least in Massachusetts the fine for missing a toll bill is a couple dollars extra, not $100 per toll.
The 407 etr is a great example of electronic toll collection!
A great example of a scam. The tolls collected leave the country. Thanks Mike Harris
@@speedwack They don't. The toll operator is an LLC that operates only in that province. This same LP operates other LLCs in the US - however their revenues do NOT commingle. (There are laws, regulations, and even treaties, that cover this.)
Nope, I-Pass works with EZ-Pass,just drove all the way east today and worked in each state I passed through.
You definitely deserve more subscribers. Really interesting content you make. Thank you!
I really do love roads and anything infostructure related. Thanks for this content.
Great video and very informative. I have both the EZ pass box and the FastTrack sticker. But not attached...unless I know I am going past one.
Yeah, that sticker isn't going to work for me. I sometimes tow my trailer. The trailer has its own transponder (comes up as a three-axle vehicle so the proper toll gets paid) but it doesn't have any windows. Instead, the transponder in the tow vehicle gets swapped out with the one for the trailer. With a sticker, you can't swap it out. You'll always have the transponder in the vehicle and have to use the "special" lane to pay the correct toll for the extra axle(s) of the trailer. That's going to cause huge lines and backlogs during boating season and RV season. They need to come up with a less permanent way of doing this for people who tow.
You could plobably put it on a piece of tin foil and tape the foil to the windshield.
so, can't speak for all states, but did some googling about mine and our system is "smart" enough to actually count the axles and charge the proper toll with only the vehicle transponder
@@gabrieltomte7723 they'd have to take the tin foil off of their head first though
Toll roads need to go away. Bad idea who's time has passed.
I believe the Kansas K-Tag is now compatible with Oklahoma and Texas as of a few years ago which has been a nice change for those commuting from KS to TX each week.
Amazing video and always very informative 👍👍👍
Texas has all boothless tolls since 2007. Also the Texas has the longest use of sticker toll tags. The sticker tag looks a lot nicer than the old hard case ones when I first saw them.
Damn, that was a great video and interview!! Very high quality video!!
It was October 2017 when all toll booths were removed and toll plazas were "reimagined" at the MTA bridges in NYC. NY State Thruway went to cashless tolling in November 2020. The George Washington Bridge was last in April 2023, with toll booth removal thru the rest of the year. Still, the "pay by plate" option is used by many to "beat the system" with obscured plates(covers, glossy plastic, or defaced). We have the old plastic E-Z Pass transponders, and I don't hear of any plans to replace them with those slim chip stick-ons. 😎
What an awesome informative video. 👏
Unfortunately those of us who rent cars are still up a creek. Without a way to pay the toll, we have to pay a $25 "admin fee" to the rental car company to pay a $1 toll on our behalf.
That should be illegal.
IK with the transponders in my state, it's usually simple enough to just "add vehicle" where you just add the plate and model, done online in a couple minutes, but I'm sure other states make it a proper nightmare.
I am impressed, when it comes to revenue all the states can work together...
I'm not sure about when this video as released, but I remember in 2020 I used my PeachPass (Georgia) to pay Florida tolls (usually use SunPass). Toll roads in Georgia also support SunPasses, NC Passes, and EZ Passes iirc, which covers all our relevant neighbors except SC. Peach Passes are the sticker/6C ones too.
It was a bit painful to hear Samuel Johnson describe at 4:55 the RFID tags. They do not use the glass windshield as an antenna, and in fact, do not contain computer power anywhere close to a 386. In fact, the old plastic-box active tags were more sophisticated than the sticker windshield tags. The big technological innovation is in tag READERS (the part mounted on the gantry) which are able to interrogate a passive RFID tag from a distance. All of the power in the passive tag to communicate comes from the interrogator signal. Yes - the new passive tags are better than older passive tags, but they certainly aren't full computers.
He makes the big toll bucks though
We have had this in Portugal for over 20 years. Quite nice.
But it shouldn’t be cancel cash booth,it should make booth safer.
The Georgia peach pass and the Florida Sun pass work with each other. Also, you do not need a peach pass to get places, the peach pass grants you access to the express lane. At least here in Atlanta.
Here is a smart concept. Don't charge any toll...Michigan is smart. They never had any toll booths on any of their Michigan is smart. They never had any toll booths on any of their highways. Never. That's right no charges to travel in michigan. Never. That's right no charges to travel in Michigan
Yeah and in Florida you can use SunPass to pay for parking at some of the airports.
"Obviously, you wouldn't want to stand on the edge of a highway.” I'm a toll collector. That quote's pretty much what my job is.
On the very few toll roads (usually bridges/tunnels) we have in the UK we use the pay-by-plate system. I think its the most convenient method.
Australia uses only etolls, either with numberplate recognition or small etags that are provided free from the toll companies, 3 companies and all toll accounts work on all 3 toll roads.
Texas has that as well.
We dont have tols here in sweden but we have congestion charges in major cities and its just added to the road tax
Here in Norway there are no manual toll roads left, and toll passes are basically free but not mandatory
He didn't mention it, but if you read the sign on that $44 toll pass, it clearly states that you get $50 credit in tolls. So it actually costs (negative 5) dollars to buy it. They're basically giving you $5 to encourage you to buy the pass.
@@B3Band it's a similar case in my state, the transponder is $25 but it comes with $25 of toll credit (along with discounts over paying by plate) so you're basically getting it free.
Here is a smart concept. Don't charge any toll...Michigan is smart. They never had any toll booths on any of their Michigan is smart. They never had any toll booths on any of their highways. Never. That's right no charges to travel in michigan. Never. That's right no charges to travel in Michigan USA
They just want to eliminate the people who collect and count the money which means another government job gone. There are people like myself who prefer to deal in cash exclusively, I also feel that considering all the taxes we pay in the U.S. that all toll roads should be done away with. I don`t think I should pay to use a road that was payed for 10 times over already.
On a trip a couple of years ago leaving from Austin, TX to Effingham, IL, I found that my TXtag worked in both Oklahoma and Kansas. I don't remember finding a toll road in Missouri. I went straight up I-35 and discovered that once I hit Kansas, all freeways were toll roads. (This started as a trip to see the band Kansas in Kansas, but due to a little white lie from Google Maps, I got to the casino north of Topeka in time to see the crew unloading the stage from the building back into the truck. It turned out, the show the next night was in Effingham,, Illinois so I got a room and left in the morning on the trip to Effingham...and that is where the wrinkle hit. I-70 east goes through St. Louis, notorious for it's sucky traffic. To take the "bypass" around St. Louis, it added 2 hours to the trip. I arrived in Effingham and got a room, a quick burger and just made it to the venue for the show with about 10 minutes to spare before the show started. The next morning, after a couple hours of sight seeing given I had never been to that part of Illinois, I headed to the next stop,back across St. Louis to Warrenton, Missouri where the city was having their fall festival, including a free show with 3 bands( supposed to be Atlanta Rhythm Section, Pure Prairie League, and ToTo - only they had to pull out at the last minute due to a death in the band, replaced by Orleans as the headliner). All shows were excellent. Again, having not been to Northwest Missouri, after a night in the roach motel (actually not that bad - just older than I was, early 1950's vintage - only place in town with rooms left), I stuck out on a local road heading more or less southwest toward Joplin, which had been wiped out by a tornado a couple years before. It had been mostly rebuilt, so back to the road, this time on I-44 I think it was heading towards Tulsa, Oklahoma. I managed to get near there and found an Indian owned toll road to McAlester, where I grabbed a room for the night. I was hoping to make it to Paris, Texas, but my go, got up and left. I actually ended up in a Hampton Inn a few miles south. It turns out, there were major rail lines in the area and these three hotels in the middle of BFE were where the trainmen stayed. I figured if it was good enough for the trainmen, it was good enough for me. Finally on the last day, on down to Paris, Texas and got some pictures of the Eiffel Tower replica there, then on down to I-30 into Dallas/Mesquite where there was a several hour delay due to construction. I finally got back to Austin about 11:30 PM. Having not had a vacation in several years, I enjoyed the heck out of this trip.
Thankfully since this video has come out, the east coast has finally united. EZ Pass, NC Quick Pass, GA Peach Pass and FL Sun Pass finally all work together. Sometimes it does require you to upgrade your toll pass, but at least now you don't need so many different transponders and accounts.
For some reason I read the title as "This Tiny Sticker Is Killing off EVERY Toll Booth in South Africa"
Are you South African?
@@MiguelAbd No.
Here In India We Have "FasTag" Which Is Compatible With Every State And Works Pretty Nice
In germany the toll ist payed with the car tax... Also we can drive as fast as we want
@@MrManniG So there are no toll booths in Germany?
@@AniketBhade I've never seen one so far
Here is a smart concept. Don't charge any toll...Michigan is smart. They never had any toll booths on any of their Michigan is smart. They never had any toll booths on any of their highways. Never. That's right no charges to travel in michigan. Never. That's right no charges to travel in Michigan usa
@@MrManniG Great!
I remember back in the early '90s it was cool to have the I-Pass in Illinois. And, you pay half for the toll if you have an I-Pass. Though I do miss sharing good morning's with the toll operators on the way to work, you got to know them even if it was just for 10 seconds as you passed along your 40¢.
Electronic toll collection is a great idea!
But there should be at least one lane at every toll plaza where a driver can pay a vending machine.
Or talk to an agent who doesn't have to actually be in the booth but in a central call center who can give them a one-time free pass and authorize them to go through.
Except pay by plate will send you a bill in the mail which has payment instructions. (The DMV has your plate and address, they can bill you)
For me the easiest option was to scan the QR code and pay with my credit card with all the pain of an amazon purchase. I believe it has instructions on how to pay with a check for the more old-fashioned folks out there.
But since i drive somewhat regularly on the mass pike i found the cheapest option was to just get an EZ-pass and link it to auto draw from my credit card immediately on generating a bill. Now i just drive and don't think about it. (Gas costs way more than any toll road in the northeast anyway)
Simply put there is no reason to bother putting in a "vending machine" at every toll both when pay by plate exists and works well.
@@jasonreed7522 If they send you a normal bill for the toll amount, I'd be okay with that as long as they don't tack a fine on top of it...
@@fredashay its a normal bill, and most bills these days include options to pay online. (Again its as easy as Amazon vs writing a physical check and buying stamps and mailing it)
The price difference between EZ-pass and Pay by Plate is mainly that the transponder is infinitely easier for them to process. (One is functionally the same as wifi transimiting the text string of your license plate / acount number exactly as its stored in their database, and the other is converting a jumble of pixels of different values into the same string, and if it fails a real human has to enter the data manually)
Pay by plate is only more expensive because it has a higher overhead operating cost. (Which your "vending machine/ call center" would also suffer from) but as far as the billing method used, that doesn't effect the price.
PS: the alternative of the transponder being cheaper for "frequent fliers" is a unified rate to cover the cost of all systems which would invariably be more expensive for everyone. (If you make 1 trip involving a highway a year it's cheaper to go pay by plate, once a week and you should just get a transponder)
@@jasonreed7522 That's great if you have reliable USPS mail service. We don't. Running about 30% of our mail not being delivered.
It was my understanding that this toll by transponder situation nationwide was to have been unified by Oct, 2016. Of course, that date has come and gone. Glad to see the person you spoke with in California is anticipating unification sometime in 2020 (maybe?), Also, the number of collisions by vehicles with toll plazas is extremely small. Having lived in NJ during the 60's and 70's and using both the NJ Turnpike and Garden State Parkway almost everyday, I can only recall a couple of vehicle/toll booth collisions in all those years. For me, it is much simpler to have both manned toll booths and transponder toll gantries. It seems an extreme waste of time and money to bill motorists for tolls when they could have just been paid at the toll plaza. And are there new laws on the books so that when one receives a bill in the mail, you will be fined if you don't pay. Right now I think one can just toss a toll bill collection notice with no legal ramifications.
@Brain Dill, right on!
Ya youll get fined $250? I think if u dont pay the bill before the due date. And at certain toll booths like the ones into nyc youll get your registration revoked for a year i believe.
I understand the need for tolls, but in south Florida Sunpass is kinda ridiculous. In some areas it cost $1.07 just to go a couple miles, and on I95 they have express lanes which take up 2 lanes on a public highway. I've seen the express lanes go up to $50 during busy rush hours. I think the bigger problem is public transportation, or lack of that is. It'd be cool if you made a video about Floridas public transportation and traffic problem
Here is a smart concept. Don't charge any toll...Michigan is smart. They never had any toll booths on any of their Michigan is smart. They never had any toll booths on any of their highways. Never. That's right no charges to travel in michigan. Never. That's right no charges to travel in Michigan
I’m a long haul trucker, I have an EZ pass that covers most of the tolls from east coast to California with the exception of Washington State. It gets really pricey, since I own 8 trucks and trailers. My drivers doesn’t have to worry about having to pay for tolls out of their own pockets and I have to reimburse them later. I try not to be the typical big trucking company I drove for prior to owning my own company. This Gold color company that called themselves “Gold Standard “ company, were and probably still ripping its drivers by not reimbursing the drivers. They ripped me off $545.00 worth of tolls. When I sent them the receipts that they requested. They never reimburse the money because they kept telling me “ We never received the receipts you sent!” I even brought the receipts in person to their payroll department. Finally I started making copies of the receipts for records. When they pulled”You never turned in the receipts!” I was to show them the copies and the date and times and the contact person which was the same person that tells me i didn’t turn in the receipts. I guess some of these companies loves ripping off their drivers. In a way they motivated me to start my own trucking company.
The great irony here is that we wouldn't really need toll roads if there was a sane tax on commercial use of roadways.
@@Furiends, The more we pay the more they ask us to pay. The politicians gets elected and once they get into that nice comfortable leather chairs with all their staffs around them paid for by us tax slavers. They do nothing.
@@SirFoodie1904 Well they do nothing for you. They start thinking about their next election and are thinking about what actions they can take in government to get the most "donations" by the next election. However the reasons why we have more and more toll roads and why the system of paying tolls is so convoluted is a bit more complicated. If tolls were primary about traffic direction they fail miserably at this and I think this is the case because thats not actually why roads end up with tolls. Toll roads exist because of states inability to maintain their existing road infrastructure which is mostly due to population demographics and bad long term planning. A toll road is a way for the state to leverage a revenue producing asset. (it doesn't actually "make" them money, it allows them to leverage future revenues to actually build the road).
Would love a video on tolled express lanes which have gone up all over Texas and other places. I actually like using them, but damn, it sure adds up just to save a few minutes here and there.
Here is a smart concept. Don't charge any toll...Michigan is smart. They never had any toll booths on any of their Michigan is smart. They never had any toll booths on any of their highways. Never. That's right no charges to travel in michigan. Never. That's right no charges to travel in michigan
Will probably do the pay by plate when I go on vacation to Disney world. Seeing that I'm from Idaho and we have no toll roads here.
Once it becomes easier to pay tolls, more toll roads will appear. 🤦♂️
I can't tell you how many times we've been caught out traveling across the States ended up needing to go through Chicago and not having change for the Box. Then we paid $20 to get off get change and get only to get 20 more dollars go to our hotel which was a block and a half away
I remember back in the 90s my parents both had cars with change holders built into them specifically to make it faster to get the correct change ready.
I find it so weird that it costs more to drive on the Golden Gate Bridge than driving on the entire 88 mile Will Rogers Turnpike one way.
Because San Francisco can't seem to control its budget
Because it's San Francisco...
@@sitdowndogbreath Does the City of San Francisco own the bridge? I think not. That's not to say that California isn't all kinds of fucked up, but ask who owns it first. A lot of major bridges and tunnels are privately or publicly-privately owned.
@@sitdowndogbreath Or that a four-lane freeway in the middle of nowhere Oklahoma is much cheaper to maintain than a ~90-year-old 6-lane wide suspension bridge in an earthquake prone area.
It's probably to reduce traffic, that's one of the reasons they put a toll on roads is to encourage people to use another route if the existing one is too crowded. It would look bad for tourists to sit in traffic the entire time they're on the city's most iconic landmark.
They recently made this change in NY on the Thruway. They've been slowly phasing out toll workers. I feel bad for them; I hope they find employment elsewhere
Sad part is they probably won't find employment anytime soon especially not at whatever they were making working in the booths giving the current economy.
They can always pump gas or be a travel agent.
Now 4 yrs later, no nationwide ETC for every sticker. I just bought a OK sticker that covers KS, TX, CO and FL but nowhere else.
Samuel selling fifty cent 386 stickers is my hero.
Mine too.
And now we'll know where you are, how fast you are going and at what time you where there, any time all the time ! Big brother is watching !
Got any extra tinfoil hats?
I suspect you could be traced from traffic air planes and sent a ticket.
@@TJ-tl8ol ....make that enough tinfoil to wrap the entire car !
@@gregorym9591 .....aircraft have been used to monitor traffic since way back (1950s) In many places it is no longer cost effective.
@@palco22 Yes that is true………. but it took a cop on the ground it stop you and issue a ticket. Now the sticker on the window will allow the aircraft to read your car and issue a ticket without stopping the car.
Wait so we have to pay for roads that are already paid for by our taxes Explain to me that logic.
The people California are paying for these toll roads/ fast tracks with the gas tax that we pay close to $0.75 a gallon plus DMV fees are supposed to pay for roads Bridges and highways so there's more than enough money to engineer are the freeways correctly and we shouldn't eliminate all toll roads and fast tracks.
Toll Roads and turnpikes are usually constructed, maintained, and managed privately.
@@johntula6473 They haven't painted the golden gate in its entirety for over 30 years and they have collected billions of dollars from it
There's 3 reasons you typically see tolls used on the East coast (not including HOT or "Lexus lanes"):
1. Expensive to build/maintain - A bridge over a long/high feature or a road that goes through terrain that isn't very flat or straight is much more expensive to build and maintain than your typical section of I-70 through Kansas. A couple of examples would be the Verrazano-Narrows Bridge linking Staten Island to Queens, a long suspension bridge that carries a total of 12 lanes of high-speed interstate traffic and the West Virginia Turnpike, which carries traffic from 2 different interstates through narrow, twisty valleys with constant elevation changes. The state collect tolls on these roads to both pay for the bonds taken out when they were built and for the upkeep, since attempting to maintain them would put an unfair burden on taxpayers who may not use the roads as often as other residents as well as having non-residents help maintain the roads they are using.
2. An "unnecessary" road that only helps save time - Sometimes the only compelling reason build a road is because it will shave 10 minutes off the drive time for people who use it. Virginia actually has a few of these. The Pocahontas Parkway provides a quick way between south Richmond and I-295 or I-64 East, but it's not like you couldn't just drive up I-95 to I-64 and make the same trip. Likewise, the Chesapeake Expressway serves people traveling between Chesapeake and North Carolina (mostly travelers headed to the Outer Banks), but a road already connected these points, albeit surface streets, so the expressway added a dedicated highway that both makes the trip quicker, but also gets cars off the surface streets. So, by imposing a toll, it helps offset the cost that wouldn't be necessary if people didn't want to use it and help save a few minutes
3. Because you're Delaware - Delaware has a pretty straight, flat section of I-95 that spans no wide rivers or has any other sort of imposing geographic feature. Yet, you are asked to pay $4 to use their 23 mile section of I-95. The only reason to do that is to pad their state coffers because I guarantee you they gross more money in a month than it takes to maintain that road in a year.
@@eaglescout1984 Those points also hold true here in Kansas(p.s. don't go insulting I-70 😉). Here we only have one toll road to my knowledge - the Kansas Turnpike. It can be bypassed, but often times it can significantly reduce your travel time. It is also probably the best maintained highway in the state and has the quietest and smoothest ride - a feat considering that our highways are generally speaking quite nice as it is.
In South Korea, we have the national Hi-Pass system. All you need is a card and a reader. The card is inserted into the reader and the money on the card is transmitted to readers in the Hi-Pass lanes at tolls marked with a blue path in the center if the lane. Some areas even use overhead readers in replacement of tolls (similar to the ones spojen about in the video) but the physical toll gates (majority) force you to slow down to when passing through the Hi-Pass lane to see a screen the displays information such as the toll charge and card balance.
Fun fact: So many Koreans have Hi-Pass, the Hi-Pass lanes are often even more congested than the regular lanes! Sometimes, the regular lanes don't even have any cars in them because everyone's on the Hi-Pass lanes!
One more thing, some car manufacturers in Korea have even put in Hi-Pass readers built into the cars!
We don’t have many toll roads in the UK but the ones we do have are pretty much pay by plate only, or ANPR as we call them (automatic numberplate recognition). The only toll road near me is the Tyne Tunnel, and you can make an account on the website with your bank account and numberplate, and the cameras will automatically charge you without you having to do anything after you drive through.
The one thing that has always bothered me about these devices is the ability for the authorities to track your movements. Yeah, yeah, if you're not doing anything wrong, who cares, right? *I* care. Just because I'm not committing a crime doesn't mean I waive my right to privacy.
To put a fine point on it, when I lived in the NYC metro area years ago, a criminal was tracked and caught because he had a speedpass on his car. If they can do it with criminals, they can do it with anyone.
Now with NY wanting to round up people who are a risk to the public because they refuse the vaccine, this tracking will bring us even closer to 1984.
@@SomeUserNameBlahBlah You don't have a right to endanger the lives of others. If you want to participate in society, you follow the rules of society or go live out in the middle of nowhere with no infrastructure and leave the rest of us alone.
@@lohphat If you're vaccinated then how am I a danger to you if I refuse the vaccine?
Do you have a phone?
@@SomeUserNameBlahBlah 1. 1984 is not about tracking. It's about thought control. Have you read it.
2. People who don't take a vaccine endanger herd immunity for those who are immuno-compromised or unable to take a vaccine for legitimate health reasons.
I mean, shouldn’t we just be giving these away at the DMV or something?
Exactly
When Samuel said "this probably going to have more power than...and I'm probably going to date myself..." my immediate reaction in my head was to fill in the blank. A Z80? A 6502? 386?! He's a baby!
In Florida, they have one for visitors that works on every toll road they have. And they have 3-4 of them
Mass pike tolls where supposed to stop. With this new system they will go on forever
and NOW they want to tax 1.5c per mile
Someday we’ll have to go to a new world(planet) to escape taxes.
That's correct. Once the Pike was paid off using the toll booths, the booths were supposed to come down. But I guess the greedy state of Massachusetts decided the toll booth was a great way to generate revenue indefinitely. I avoid the Pike as much as possible. I don't have an EZPass and I don't want one.
Hey. The Mass holes decided to put gantries up every three to five miles apart. Isn't e Z pass just, just.. the most;?!???!!!
Over there on the east coast are all the freeways out there tolls? I live here in Los Angeles, but our fast track program throughout Southern California is just something people take to avoid the traffic on the freeways. You can get wherever your going in the same amount of time as fast track people if there were no traffic on the other side of the freeway. So I’m just wondering if everyone who drives out there on their freeways have to pay tolls?. Not to just avoid traffic?
"I won't work here."
"I don't wanna Pay a Bill!"
OK Karen.
Shes actually right, wtf do we have to pay for using roads we already pay taxes for?
We’re not all as rich as you are. Some of us are on fixed income
Capt. Obvious misses the obvious...
@@nachc6459 actually not all toll roads are taxpayer funded depends on the state. My state Illinois for example, the toll roads are only paid for by tolls. No taxpayer money is given to them
@@joejonas3684 And are expensive as $$$$. My EZ-Pass Cringes every time I go through Chicago.
They came out with something for trucks called BestPass which works on all toll roads as well as all weigh stations in the USA... It was pretty neat to drive on all the toll roads in the USA back when I was just starting trucking in 2017... :)
In Massachusetts, before the boothless tolls, there was a big fee for not stopping at the toll booth if you didn't have an ez pass. Now it's only a few cents more than having an ez pass