Chappers & The Capt Choose An Amp for Under £100!
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👆 Chappers & the Capt take a leap back in time to when they were just starting out & only had a very small amount of money to buy a guitar amp. Lets talk about what they chose & why!
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Guys you got to remember that a practice amp under 100 quid will be played in a bedroom quietly enough so parents / room mates cannot hear in the next room, I dont know why you are banging on about who's is loudest. You should have put them on volume 1 and see who's has the best sound and tones at low volume.
I would disagree. If you're young, youre likely gonna get an amp that's as loud as possible so you can practice with your band, and an amplug/marshall ms2 for bedroom. That's what I did
@@nightraven5760 i need one for my bedroom, so...
@@harrypottershead8331 yeah, so get a VOX Amplug or Marshall MS2, then when you lpay with a band spend the main cash on a really loud amp
@@nightraven5760 Practice amp for bedroom and practice amp for the elusive "garage you can practice in with deaf neighbours" are like chalk and cheese.
Nah mate, half the fun is playing with your mates. For that, you need some volume.
Hey guys, I’ve got an idea for a video: buy an all valve rig for under £700 but one of you has to choose a combo and the other has to get a head and cab. I think that’d be pretty cool to see!!
Jack Geddes I think they should make a huge video out of it, and do 3 price points: combo vs head&cab at £300, £500, £700
Or maybe somehow work solid state vs valve in there too
You could say Orange *crushed* it
I'll see myself out
Please do because that was *terror*ble.
I’ll leave with you
LOL YES
Lol 😆
6:28 basically every day a guitar center!
LOL... I am just visiting USA and went to two Guitar Centres. It was exactly like that. :D
Couldn't you guys have found some amps that weigh less? 100 lbs. seems pretty heavy
Nice one
Oddly enough the Marshall did sound leagues better through the Cap10
I have the Crush 12 and it's a loud amp. I never go past volume 4 and have to tune down the volume on my guitar to find the sweet spot. Orange amps have amazing cleans just not what they are known for. Modeling amps may have all the bells and whistles but if it's your only amp you'll be better off with a non modeler.
The Orange Crush would have been my choice, too.
I have one, and a valve amp, still like the orange sound
I love the Orange Crush stuff. They have this awesome kinda fuzzy sound that I can't get enough of. And man, do they cut.
I'd go with the Boss. A practice amp doesn't need volume, it needs good tones that inspire you to play.
The Boss seems like a good little "bedroom" amp, for when you're just noodling around on your own. The Orange is definitely the best amp for jamming with other people.
the boss sounds like a really good amp, that someone's playing in the other end of the house
Love the punk demos more than random shredding
Agreed.
Back in high school, I went to Guitar Center to pick out my Christmas present and had about a $100 budget. This was when the V1 Mustangs first came out and I played through it and was surprised. I didn't even look at the price thinking it was over budget, but it was right around $100 at the time. I wouldn't rule out modelers for beginners. It allows new players to find a sound they like and experiment with effects. Then after a year or two of playing, when they want to upgrade, they have an idea of what they like.
I tried this out in my local guitar store and I fell in love with the boss katana mini. Great birthday present for myself. Perfect sized bedroom practice amp
I thinks it's a ride of passage as a new guitarist to play with sh*t gear. I know I did... and I loved every sh*tty minute of it!!
Totally agree. Your first guitar shouldn't be a really nice one, it should be an ok one that's not complete garbage but one that you still like. That way when you finally get your dream guitar (I recently got mine- a PRS S2 satin that I love dearly), it'll mean the world to you & you really appreciate it. Plus a lot of beginners don't stick with it so that expensive gear will end up being a waste of money.
I have a Squier Bullet Strat and a Frontman 10G and I love them 😂
it's funny watching the Captain squabble for damage control after Rob just goes for it at 4:07 xD
Hahaha
Never cranked my crush 12 to full volume, it's just sooooo loud. Best 1st/practice amp EVER.
Having gain & overdrive knobs as well as 3 band e.q. makes it incredibly versatile.
No I am not Cliff Cooper.
Agreed and why I bought it. 3 band eq and overdrive built in. I used to think I had to reverb on always. I don't miss it. Love this amp.
Love how honest you are with the review, thank you
When I started playing, I couldn't afford an amp so... Years playing an electric unplugged
Napkin Shoplifta' i plugged mine into a record player input
Mark knopfler done that for years.
Same league here.
I still have to do that when the Mrs is watching real housewives of Cheshire 🤢
Not to knock you down,but you miss a lot of essential skills not plugging into an amp. Ability to dial a tone,knowing when to reduce volume and tone on the fly,and also learn to mute strings when distortion is on
Mg 15 was my first amp. I still use it for practice and writing. I broke the gain channel. It took a nasty fall. But I have an fx processor, so I can get amazing sounds through the clean as a pedal platform.
Definitely worth looking secondhand managed to pick a hardly used 30w Peavy Vypyr for £50 and some of the amp settings are amazing with 12 presets for your favourites
I wonder what percent of the beginners with that kind of gear actually get together and jam out. At that stage I just figured the decent lower volume Boss amp in the basement office or your bedroom just learnin learnin learnin
The Fender Champion 20 is an excellent amp in that price range. Ton of different voices of amp & gain. And built in effects. Great for practice, I really like mine
Oh, forgot to say, if you have £100 you absolutely have to buy something second hand, you can get some quality kit for this if you're prepared to have something from the previous decade or so.
But Andertons isn't selling us on their used gear.
Avt50s are 50-70 quid down here! It's just silly that you would go for an 8 inch, 10 watt amp when for LESS, you could get a second hand, semi valve, 12 inch 50 watt amp
Definitely prefer the orange. I even have the orange crush 20ldx which i bought as my first amp and recently I took it out of my cupboard and gave it a play and mate it sounds alright for a lil practice amp. I tried that marshall one time and rob isn't joking the clean is definitely louder than the gain channel which i think is weird. But tbh Im not a big fan of the marshall mg series and I love marshall amps but if you were to go marshall I reckon its worth saving more for the dsl range at least :)
Tnx guys, I'm looking for a little amp for my bedroom since my fender bassbreaker is slightly too loud for that purpose. So this is a great help!
As another "budget" video, I'd love to see you review some of the cheaper-end pedals (Hotone, Tone City, etc) alongside these amps. Both to look into what affordable pedals sound good and to see how versatile these affordable amps are when adding pedals into the mix.
It would also be interesting to see such a review using sub-£200 guitars, maybe even sub-£150, to get a good idea of what effect pedals can have on a complete starter practice rig.
Also then maybe, just for comparison, what the same pedal (and guitar) setup would sound like through higher-end amp. As knowing what cheaper pedals, if any, still work well when you start to upgrade the rest of your gear can be useful form a value perspective.
I prefer the orange, amazing playing in this vid I loved it
I have the Fender Champion 20 and it's actually decent for a practice amp. It's very versatile and has loads of fx built in.
I like the Orange, was going to get the crush 20 as my first amp but then I saw a Blackstar ID Core beam for half price and swooped in on that instead cause of its reverb, delay and other features, plus I'm planning to get a bass in the future so it works out best for me since I'm on a tight budget
I love this demo and that orange guitar sounds GREAT 😎‼️🔥🎸
One of our old guitarists used a Focusrite into Amplitude into the PA. It sounded fine. Another one played a Pocket Pod into the PA. It sounded fine. Current one plays a Zoom Something.3 into a clean amp or just the PA live. That sounds fine too.
My theory which is mine is that if there's a PA anyway then modelling will be fine. My other theory which is also mine is if you can stretch to a Boss Katana 50 then your life will still be better.
I've got a POD Mini of a good friend of mine. This thing is amazing. Sounds pretty good and works well infront of a clean amp. If you only want one sound this thing is good for practice and live applications. All you need is get the thing loud 😍 wish I had it anymore but no I got the Boss GT-1 from my buddy and this amazing. I'm going to make a video for my channel 😀
Fender MIM/Squier Classic Vibe/Epiphone guitar + Boss Katana 50 + Zoom Effects Unit = Probably the best value for money rig. If the internet is to be believed that is.
Sounds a lot like my rig.
orange micro terror.. £99 plus £50 for the cab the chrismas after :-).. they are LOUD and sound great
Andy Lord My first setup was the micro dark for £100 because I got money off from points and a 4x12 Ashton cab I bought off someone near me for £40. It was such a great setup, I’ve got a blues junior now but I’m thinking of getting a micro terror at some point
I have a 2 x 12 1936 cab I run my Micro Dark through - Amazing Sound!
Yeah I'm not waiting two whole Christmases for a whole amp.
nah just until your birthday
Well what a coincidence! I bought an MG15CFX (basically the same amp as Rob is using but with a few more bells and whistles) about a week ago, and lo and behold, this video comes out very shortly afterwards!
I have the Marshall mg15hcfx cleans are lovely and the crunch nice. Good for a practice amp, no issues at all. And I would say a clean sound for a beginner in my opinion is always better, than stacking the gain.
I’m with Rob on this. I’ve got an MG15CFX and only ever use the clean channel with a pedal in front. It’s still not great, but it’s loads better than using the drive channels.
Vox VT series are killer amps! VT20+ used to be my first amp back in the day. Loved it a lot. The variety of amps and effects was sufficient, and the volume range allowed to sound good both at home and at a big hall. Really tempted remembering the times.
It's a shame you haven't done any videos on that for 7 years. Guys, up this, if you are interested in it. It's a bargain for new players.
Hi guys, I just love your videos. You combine education with entertainment. Bought orange crush 12 combo couple days ago @ Tom Lee's here in Vancouver B.C. At the main library branch there are soundproof rooms where you can record or play music. I booked a room today (it's free) for a couple of hours next week, and I'm gonna play the living shit out of this combo. Will let you know how was it. Cheers!
I have a soft spot for the MG series because of a little MG10 that I used to make a bee-line for at my lessons. It was so easy to get the right tone for what I was playing and used to sound much better than the bigger amps they had. For a Les Paul type guitar it used to sound pretty ok even when fairly loud. Just bought a MG15 for my Dad (who is a beginner - BTW I am >50) and its pretty good when played at room volumes. The sound gets worse when loud like most cheap amps. What did surprise me was how big it is physically - much bigger than the MG10 and wider and taller (just) than the Code 25. Its not as discrete as the old MG10!
Thanks lads - so enjoyable.
Is it even politically correct to plug a $2,000 Fender elite into a $150 Marshal amp?!
Craig Larbes no, it is not
jfinkle I was just joking around
Craig Larbes me too lol
Craig Larbes that amp is less than 100€
No. Do it.
I spent the first few years of playing guitar with a mg30dfx and a boss gt8 and got a goodish tone from it (Obviously not full valve quality but ok). Used it till it broke. Totally agree with rob that you need a pedal after the clean and its fine for newbies
Upgrades from a first rig would be a great video. Start with a cheap squire and one of these amps and set a modest budget for upgrades. Do you upgrade your amp, the guitar or add pedals/multi effects? Think that would be good for a lot of people starting out.
That was a great video. excellent debate and informative, and objective. I agree with Lee entirely, actually, which is odd for me. I thought the Marshall gain was great too.
My first amp was a Marshal MG15R (13 years ago). I still have it, although last year I ripped the inside out and replaced it with a Champ AA64 tube circuit. .... Awsome ..... I was surprised to find the MG has a real mini reverb tank in it. I have some bits if you need them.
That first jam took me back a few years. Practicing in an old caravan. Brilliant!!!
I would take the orange without doubt. Boss is great though. But LOUD!
I got that same orange for my college apartment amp and it's perfect with or without pedals
Very useful comparison. I absolutely agree with the microphone choice. The room acoustic is a serious consideration at these sort of volume levels. Very interesting because this is exactly where I was 3 months ago (except I'm 63 and not 15). I bought the Marshall MG15CFX which costs a wee bit more but adds chorus, phaser, flanger, delay and octave fx as well as the reverb on the subject combo and takes the useful optional footcontroller (PEDL-90008). There is also the MG15CF which doesn't have fx or reverb and is a wee bit cheaper than the MG15CFR. I totally agree that the clean channel gives a lovely sound. Maybe it's because the crunch, od-1 and od-2 are somehow less satisfying, as Rob says, that I did keep hankering after a modelling amp. So I now have a Marshall CODE 50 as well (bought from Anderton's - great deal- thanks). So, should I have taken the Orange instead of the MG15? A very difficult choice. I'll probably stay with what I have for the foreseeable future. My instrument is an Epiphone G-400 PRO.
As of right now my practice setup is a Fender Champ 5F1 (Joyo Sweet Baby) with a 12AX7, 6V6, and 5Y3 tube compliment and a Celestion Eight-15 speaker (british voiced speaker). I get my drive from an Xotic SL Drive which is a Marshall Super Lead voiced pedal.
When you get the amp just at the edge of breakup and engage the pedal it just starts to overdrive in such a natural and smooth way, but not farty or spitty like the champ usually is when cranked, and I think with that British voiced speaker and the Marshall in a box pedal make it sound like a tiny version of a Marshall amp on 10.
It's very inspiring to play unlike most solid state/ transistor amps and even modeling rigs. The natural compression from the power tube and the sag from the tube rectifier really feel like a power amp that's working hard. A very interesting little setup that I think any tube amp lover, especially in a rock context, would love.
Also the cleans are amazing, its a tube Fender amp. Then when I want the 5F1 Champ sound I just crank it without a pedal and that is awesome too, reminds me of a lot of some Zeppelin recordings. I mean, just look up how many albums were recorded with a Fender Champ on full tilt. Tiny tube amps cranked can give some awesome tones.
The thing Rob was doing around 7:45... man, that sounded great. inspiring
Nice video guys, greetings from Argentina!
Could you guys do another video like this, same amps but with a squire or epiphone? I love your videos. Thank you!
To answer the question at the end... I just bought an orange 12... great lil room amp...snag a 1/8-1/4 adapter n you've got yourself a mean laptop speaker as well 😂...✌️be good y'all
My first bit of gear was a little Peavey amp(don’t recall the model specifically) Ibanez blue and white Gio and some dinky Behringer phaser pedal. I’ve moved up the chain since ‘99 but I still look back fondly to that little rig. I enjoyed the Orange amp.
A good, really helpful video, first for a while. You should do more of this type. Agree with Chappers on this, Marshall with a pedal would sound better.
"Helpful".... such a subjective term! Some people want help choosing a cheap amp, some people want help finding out about expensive guitars & some people want to be helped by watching something that makes them laugh! So I think every video is helpful to someone in someway!!
CaptAnderton I think people (mainly young) need guidance when starting out. That is why I thought it helpful. Keep up the great work.
Exactly what setup I use in college, I use my mxr DD-11 dime distortion with it through the clean channel
You sold me on the orange. I play bass but just picked up my old guitar and I’m using my fender rumble 15 bass amp. Doesn’t sound bad believe it or not but I would love the orange drive sound.
That orange colour is badass on the strat
My first amp was a Crate gx80 in 1994. $90. Still have it.
I think that Chappers had a fair point, i play on an MG15CFR and I know for a fact that the gain channel sounds shit. Clean channel with a drive or distortiob sounds not only so much better, but sounds genuinly good in my opinion.
I have an old Marshall SS 10 watt amp that has a real spring reverb in it.. reverb sounds great too.
I would have opted for a Vox AD30VT. The valvetronix amps are pretty good for home practice for beginner/intermediate.
Apart from when it was full volume I preferred the Orange. The Boss also sounded good but personally I'd find the whole battery thing limiting. Plus if you're aiming it at kids or low budget that's another expense.
Love this channel
Cheers man!
The Boss sounds the Best in person as a practice amp but I’d choose the orange if I’m gonna be playing with people or for a kid who wants a first amp that’s got some volume to rock out!
Blackstar Fly3 is probably the best thing you can get in that price range. It's very limited but it sounds good both driven and clean
I rock that Marshall amp. Looking for a Cab and Head though. Blackstar maybe.
i managed to get a marshall mg30dfx and a encore les paul for £60, and its a beast, atleast compared to my old no name 10 watt generic starter amp. Definitely worth looking out for second hand deals! Also saw a orange micro terror with the cab that's made for it for £75, missed out on it but what a deal!!
My first amp was a Marshall mg10 from around 2004. A little while later I got an mg15 with the digital effects in it and that thing sounded awful. They changed something in the drive sound that made it really bad. I still have and use the older mg10 because despite the tiny speaker, lack of general volume and the now crackly knobs, it sounds legit and even cleans up with the volume knob in a really pleasing way.
I was shopping for a small amp for my daughter and after trying several, I decided to go with the Fender Champion 20. It sounds great! It has amp models and built-in effects are very good, but it's not a "modeling" amp like the Fender Mustang.
Yes it is?
Would have been awesome to see the Roland cube 10gx (or something bigger but the same family) in this video. I love that thing and feel it might have beat out something like the Marshall. Great video anyways!
I used to own the older, gold fronted, version of the Marshall 15 (I had to sell it so seeing that makes me a little wistful). Rob is right about the gain channel. An overdrive in front of the clean channel does sound better.
If we are talking strictly about an amp to practice at home with, the Boss Katana Mini is probably the best since we want tone without disturbing volume.
That D&M Drive in the background is calling my name!! Ugh save those pennies!
Sound like The Ramones for under £750- Guitar & Bass, 2 Pedals & Amp's? Failure to do so will result in this challenge not being shown! "Hey Ho Let's Go"!
A two humbucker guitar into a Marshall sounding amp.
Why even pedals????
Makes it more interesting, eg;- DS1 & Mosrite Fuzz Tone! Gabba, Gabba, Hey!
I'd love to see them do this. You actually need single coils since he played a Mosrite with a DM FS1. I always thought he used humbuckers since photos show his guitar had a humbucker in the neck but he had it disconnected & never used it. He never used effects, just a tuner. I'd go with a cheap Marshall and add either an overdrive, micro amp boost, or something like a Marshall Jackhammer to tweak the sound further. You don't want fuzz or distortion, you need a cranked Marshall with the gain set to low or medium. His sound is actually fairly clean, just super loud.
Anthony Sclafani good point, I've actually own a reissue of his guitar & your right the bridge is single, I had it imported from USA and it's spec is spot on from the volume & tone knobs to the tuner's, neck dot's, also I had the privilege of seeing them live about early 80's, I'm positive that J/R had some form of distortion? With so much interest shown on this topic Andertons have got to respond.... "I wanna be sedated"
Anyone looking for a cheap first or practice amp with no bells and whistles should check out the Vox P10. No reverb, but it sounds way, way better than it should at that price. It gives you all you need in a practice amp: good tone and no frills. Although it’s solid state, actually does sound like a Vox. Way better than you’d expect at that price point.
(My last amp was a ‘59 Bassman, so I do know what a good amp sounds like.)
I think I would ave up a bit more or talk the parents in on the Crush 20rt. I love my 35rt and it’s perfect for bedroom or small garage band stuff. It also takes pedals very well.
Interesting, I still keep my ol VOX pathfinder 15r. But I agree a good loud clean amp with a peddle may be the way to go.
I've had the Marshall, thought it was terrible. A friend has the Orange and it sounds great. I have a Katana 50 which I love, but in this test they should have used a Blackstar ID Core10 V2 (looks to be 86 pounds at Andertons) instead of the mini Katana. Not as loud as the bigger ones here for sure but it has an awesome sound and being in stereo just makes it that much better. I owned one before my Katana, and I wouldn't mind owning one again in addition.
I have the Marshall, and I run a Friedman Be-od on the clean channel. It sounds pretty good, has great tone, but it sounds worse the more I crank the amp up. It can't go very loud.
I still use my Marshall MG15MSH in my bedroom (that's the mini stack one) 20 watts lovely clean with pedals sounds awesome, yes the gain channel is too fizzy to use really but as a pedal platform great, CS guitars still has his too check out his vids to see it I have had mine since new and would probably only swap it out for a Boss Katana these days.
For a garage band starter amp tho I would have the Orange too just to cut through.
I had an Acoustic 10G when I started out, it's honestly pretty loud off a 10w solid state, considering it has an 8" speaker
I personally own the marshal for a thing i can throw a round to put pedals through and its great, the only other amp in the price range that i have ever used that is as good for what i use it for is the micro dark from orange
I have a Marshall mg 15 cfx and it is absolutely sick
Quite funny watching an Andertons video from 2010, to see how much has changed. Not just Chappers hair style
9:05 God, that was sweet!! :D
I just bought my daughter her first guitar & amp for Christmas. I bought the Acoustic G20 Lead or whatever for $80. It sounds light years better than anything I’ve ever heard in that price range.
Reminded me of trying to nail the James Gang’s version of Stop with my mates in the garage - in the end we bought second hand Marshall head and cab (which I had to refurbish)
Other than it was too quiet, I really liked the sound of the Marshall. I wonder how it sounds, if you go for a bigger version with more power, and put it on a proper Marshall 4x12 with Greenbacks or V30s?!
A question for Rabea, Captain, Chappers or Matt... would a good overdrive pedal like a Catalinbread through the clean channel of a Fender Champion 40 make a better practice rig than, lets say, a marshall code or orange crush 20? What would be your personal choice?
Marshall MG15CFX is good. 4 channels, 4 pedals, reverb, headphone and aux, pretty loud too.
After 45 years - I’ve just bought my first real amp… the first being my old, original MicroCube. And the one I went for was the Orange Crush 20RT; a week after getting it, I played a few numbers - country and blues in a village hall and I had to wind it down to no more than 30% and the guitar was barely opened up! The Orange Crush amps are completely underestimated by everyone - hells - I’d love a fender valve job… but I’ve carried memories of Orange clean tones since I was a student back in Liverpool - and now with a modern Orange… I can let the fender idea go….
What would be a better choice between the Orange Crush 12 or a Blackstar amp in the same price range
I thought the Marshall sounded fuller, we see it has a bigger cabinet but does it have a bigger speaker? Orange maybe could have used some e.q. tweaking.
When he said he got the better guitar and looked at rob..
(rob had fender, captain has Chapman)
Man that's the type of support I need in a friendship
might not be in production but the best 100 pound or less amp is the sp2 with a distortion pedal ive had two but of the three the orange
You guys whenever you do sounds like please do bass gear as well especially for bands with amazing bass players
Great Vid. 👍🤘
I'm all in on the Boss, Livingroom , bedroom , back stage, Back yard
Would it be feasible to hook up the Katana to the clean channel of a cheap 15 watt amp via the audio out socket for band practice situations?
I think yall should try out the fender champion 20! I think it would be a good amp to throw into this mix as well