Ukraine CAN'T Win. NATO Must Negotiate | Ex-German General Harald Kujat
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Today I‘d like to share with you a german language interview, not conducted by me but by Mr. Roger Köppel, the editor in chief of the Swiss Welt Woche Magazine, in which he talks to a brilliant german realist and military man, Former General Harld Kujat.
General Kujat served in the German Airforce and even was the chairman of the NATO Military Committee from 2002 to 2005. Although a few weeks old, his assessment of the situation in Ukraine and the call for immediate negotiations not on the basis of morals but on purely military grounds are now more pertinent than before.
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Chapters:
00:00:00 - Interview with General Haral Kuyat
00:06:41 - The Ratio of Losses in the War
00:12:59 - Holding Ground in Urban Warfare
00:19:15 - Zalinski's Actions in the Ukrainian Armed Forces
00:25:44 - The Difficulty of Getting Support from Congress
00:32:06 - The Impact of Military Defeat on Negotiations
00:38:33 - The Danger of Escalation with Russia
00:44:57 - The Strategic Goals of Russia
00:51:19 - The Obligation to Serve the Peace of the World
00:57:28 - Conversation with Mr. Kujat
The man with Brain 👏👏😀
Finally, a NATO Ex-General who is a Realist with a common sense, unlike some retired British & US generals on mainstream cable news.
There's a ridiculous propaganda interview with Rob Bauer, NATO's military chief, this weekend in the leading Stockholm paper Dagens Nyheter (Daily News). He's saying the fate of the entire Free World depends on Ukrainian victory, calls for Europe to switch to a war economy etc etc. If Ukraine fails then all of Europe would become slaves of Moscow, that's his pitch. 😁
I’m guessing this general isn’t on the payroll of the MIC.
@@vesakaitera2831 why do you insult him as a “Putinist”? If he’s wrong on some specific claim please quote him and demonstrate it.
@@vesakaitera2831 So anyone you disagree with is now a "Putinist"? SMH.
Are you in favor of WW3?
How about trying for PEACE NEGOTIATIONS and spare the young soldiers of all nations.
@@vesakaitera2831......the satanic seeds only trive on blood 👿👎🏻
excellent interview, a general who knows about WAR, and journalist who knows how to ask the right questions.
Please.... Very bias. NATO will beat Russia, the Russian empirelistic.. bla bla.. Just calling it Ukraine vs. Russia rather than ISA/NATO vs. Russia in Ukraine told me everything. This paper tiger, the offensive organization called NATO, is the rliic of the past and the biggest threat to world peace.
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For NATO, the fact that Ukrane can't win is irrelevant. The purpose of this war is not at all winning, rather it is using Ukraine as a means of waging a war against Russia. Therefore the assertion that NATO must negotiate is not a pragmatic or practical one; it is merely an ethical statement. Ethics have not played much of a role for NATO so far.
Nonsense. How do you explain countries with many different ethical principles coming together? I think NATO just needs time to protect itself against an invasion. That's why Ukraine is the shield in Europe
Europe needs a security arrangement for, and controlled by Europe. Not Americans!
@@sequero2747what ethical principles? Like in Gaza?
Your comment is spot on ucraine is only a tool to US/ Nato Hegemony like a hammer to be discardet if it has become usless. Maybe soldiers of other nations could be used then...
But on the contrary, I believe it is an entirely pragmatic and practical position. And that because while some psychopaths might be entirely delighted with a nightmare of destruction engulfing Europe and possibly nearly the entire world, in a completely unwinnable world war 3, this disaster would not be advantageous to the non- human life hating psychopaths (to the ordinary people, who appreciate their opportunity to live).
It is entirely necessary for pragmatic and practical reasons, to prevent the conflict escalating into a larger conflict.
Cheers, peace and love
How refreshing to hear an objective adult - versus all the propagandists on both sides of the war.
This is Russian propaganda. Really funny that you think it's neutral. There's propaganda on both sides.
@@fillefrans2020 whenever we hear information that we don’t like hearing, we (on both sides) are now trained to say “propaganda”. Unfortunately that is correct in the majority of cases, but not always, methinks. Truth is in the ear of the beholder.
This general is extremely intelligent.
@@fillefrans2020 What, you don't like a NATO general, who led NATO accession negotiations, say things you don't like? With his credentials, only an extremely limited person would call this propaganda. It was an excellent analysis.
@@SerbanOprescu Agreed . he's an old dog in the game, he didn't get his stars by just doing summersaults n he make sense when talks.
General Kujat has been raising his voice and criticizing what is happening in Ukraine for a long time. So did other Bundeswehr officers. He was the highest-ranking non-US general in NATO. To accuse him of anything biased is absurd. His job was military analysis. However, he has no interest in Germany pursuing its policies through the USA and the Eastern European states at Germany's expense.
Ukranians treating civilians with care???? Sure, when they shell Dombas, when they send drones to Russia, their targets are military - total BS!!!
The Armed Forces of Ukraine are engaged in terrorizing the civilian population, both before and now. Thanks to the Russian air defense, not everything was affected. Therefore, there may be few victims. But Russia could do the same, it has the opportunity, but it will not do it. So the small number of victims among the civilian population of Ukraine is precisely pity for the population, and not the merit of the Ukrainian defense, which even places military equipment under the windows of residential buildings without evacuating the population (there are many videos, in one they filmed a tank standing right under the apartment window), therefore Ukraine does not spare even its own civilians residents and hides behind their backs.
Those are not Ukraine, they are the very same people that leveled civilian population in Dresden, Hamburg & Japan. Their military doctrine makes no distinction between military & civilians as we can see in Gaza.
Don't forget, these 2 are Europeans. They bias and hypocrites.
Since 2014 Ukraine has been bombing Russian civilians in the Donbas. A CNN report has interviews in the Region with people asking why the Ukraine government is bombing its own people.
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Finally some truth for the Europeans to hear.
scott ritter is the man you should follow, he has been telling the truth for years
As always, like in Vietnam, Afghanistan the American hagemonic arrogance leadership will always abandon Ukraine at the time of most expectations of Zelensky aspiration.
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This is way different than Vietnam or Afghanistan. In those wars Americans were directly involved in the fight. In Ukraine they use Ukrainians as cannon fodder. Zelensky destroyed his nation willingly. If it was naivety or greed we'll find out later. He won his campaign on a "Peace with Russia" platform. It took him just one year to turn 180 degrees.
E dirà come sempre....Scuza,abbiamo provato....
Thank you so much, General, for speaking the truth! 🙌
Maximum respect!!! 🫡
Truth talk feels like drinking when thirsty! Thank you both for keeping us on the straight and narrow
Unnecessary loss of lives..for exactly what ? And for whom ?
Short answer:
1) globalism
2) imperialist techniques and strategies
Due to psychopaths and warmongers who are in charge of Nato/EU
putins ego
American oligarchy
@ralphbernhard1757 your short answer is 💯
A voice of reason! FINALLY!
"We missed this opportunity" ... not the first time a German has said this. They are on a hat trick.
Excellent guest and fantastic translation for non German speakers.
It was clear since February 2022 that Ukraine cannot defeat Russia. Should NATO negotiate? Why, what interference does NATO have in the conflict between Russia and Ukraine? Why does NATO want to expand to Russia's borders, thus causing a nuclear conflict?
Exactly my same thinking. What authority entitles NATO to negotiate peace terms with Russia on behalf of Ukraine? Moreover this is a blunt admission that NATO is at war with the Russian federation without any justification.
That's the whole issue
It is NOT Ukraine vs. Russia, it is Nato/USA vs Russia in Ukraine.
"Containment of Russia" plus US economic and strategic interests - this is 90% about AMERICAN interests and investments in Ukraine and eastern Europe (with Brussels acting as Uncle Sam's mid-level managers in mainland Europe)
@@louise_rose That is an old Roman-era technique of power to "morph" local systems into becoming tools for the dividing power, which is Washington DC.
What a fine and sensible man. Knowledgeable and restrained. The complete opposite of the hysterical voices coming from the west.
There was a neutral zone between NATO and Russia. It was Ukraine. Why on earth did NATO decide to move eastwards?
Guess who wants war? Which export articel nr. one is it? Who lives on selling wars?
Evil, Money?
@user-iz8td8ts3e, NATO had absolutely nothing to do with the start of this current war. Vladimir Putin is trying to restore the earlier Russian empire, and Ukraine has been a part of that empire. That is pretty simple. Glory to Ukraine ! Glory to the heroes !
The Hippies were crazy but right about love and peace !
look up the definition of a proxy war, that will answer your question
German taxpayers don’t want war,, But some reason German politicians don’t want peace 😢
Old instincts
America. They are a colony. They actually have a. Agreement with the US that the US can coup their government if they go against US wishes
Some german politicians are really psychopaths or warmongers.
Corruption.
commies.
Someone talking sense , Ukraine can’t win !
Stop the fighting and save some lives ………….
Its high time to negotiate, safe lots of lives.....and start rebuilding Ukraine..........
I don't think Elensky has any real chance (or will) of going dow that path now - he has completely identified himself with the "Victory or Death! Everybody must support Ukraine!" narrative. And he is the poster boy for it, too. He'll have to get out of the way first, before a new chapter can begin.
I am a Canadian (also Slovakian) and I LOVE your channel. I love your work! Brilliant!
Prayers for Fico
Wow. Very sincere talk. Great! Love it.
The biggest mistake of those who wants to make Ukraine a "forever war" is thinking that you can just establish such a status onto the conflict. The mistake lies in assumption that it is for the West of for USA to decide. Hard cold reality is, that this conflict will end only when russians will say "we're done here", and that's the only voice that matters.
They did the same in Korea.
Carve it up into two parts without asking the people.
Set the people up against each other.
Create a "forever war" potential.
It's divide and rule, implemented as "Koreo 2.0" in Europe, again...
excellent analysis. I very much enjoyed the program. It's a pity more nato-bloc citizens are ignorant to the truths involving the ukraine political crisis.
How were you able to watch the over 50 min in under 10min since publishing?
@neutralitystudies Would just be possible if he allready know the german version of the interview.
Thank you for your work. Don't forget Jaques Baud.
@@neutralitystudiesim sure many commenters dont actually watch the content. Look how many bots are on all the channels of this type, posting identical copypasta 50 times a day!
@@arostwocents ah, depressing. Real debate is so valuable. The bots are a big problem.
Great talk Pascal Gen. Kujat is one of the finest sources on these events
President Putin's career in the KGB of the Soviet Union taught him that the Soviet Union was a Russian empire run at a financial and cultural loss for Russia.
He has learned his lesson, demonstrated in Ukraine where Russia is not doing anything but securing the areas of Russian speakers, who were massacred from the day of the US instigated colour revolution.
The only basis we have for fearing a Russian expansionist policy is our western media ,which used to serve us well as the fourth estate.
Now the media have become 100% corrupted, and not only the citizens but also the politicians relate to the "news" from the media as if they were true, but in effect only amount to economic and political power.
The former free world has become a tyranny of opinions and it is heading for the total destruction of humanity.
Thanks for that very lucid contribution to this otherwise very confused commentary.
You're correct Sir
General Kujat never disappoint me.
This conflict has been caused entirely by US and NATO poking the Bear who has signed an Art 5 agreement with Panda.
Però...hanno preso di mira l'orso sbagliato
You forgetting that this was created by usa by overthrowing govermnet in Ukraine and moving into nato presence there.
Thanks very much Pascal for bringing this to our attention.
It’s fascinating to hear from a realist German General. Thanks for bringing it to YT!
Excellent interview so intelligent and informed and an ex Nato General talking sense.
This blew my mind. What a deep, detailed, knowledgeable, first-hand, thoughtful confirmation of everything that has been excluded from European and US media for many years now, and especially the last two and a half.
When putin finally sits down and has a plate of chicken kiev theyll come to the negotiation tables.
Theyr untouched exactly like washington and whitehall.
Every time i go shopping i am angry they are still selling pro russian chicken kiev and not freedom and democracy loving chicken kyiv!
I saw a conference by this German general on another CZcams channel and I was really worried. I imagined that NATO was full of racist maniacs who absolutely hate Russia, because this is a predictable toxic mixture originating from the anti-Soviet and even Nazi legacy that characterized the mentality of this military organization since it was created and throughout the Cold War. But I became really alarmed by the total lack of responsibility and care of today's NATO commanders when I realized that they would actually rather see their world incinerated and devastated by nuclear bombs just so they can say from a bunker that Russia was also crippled and destroyed by Western atomic bombs. This is far more insane than the balance of terror guaranteed by mutually assured destruction. This is a guarantee of unnecessary mutual destruction because of the insanity of NATO's claim to absorb Nazi Ukraine.
The Russians will never loose what war so ever. They love their leader, is there a western leader that cares about his citizens, i do not think so.
And are there Western citizens that care about their leaders ?
@@sapentium why should they if that leaders show no interest in them.
Why is Scholz so ineffective and willing to do the biding of the US military complex?
Corruption.
@@michaeldawson6309 Or ideology....
Weak, and a puppet. An occupied nation for 8 decades.
Or blackmail…
@@davidmatlock6410 Olaf "cum ex" Scholz....
Thanks for sharing the interview and the technology which allows English only speakers to hear the thoughts of those who chose to speak in other languages, German in this case.
What a " rara avis" , an intelligent NATO general!
The way I heard Putin, " your gig is up. If you want to get out of this mess with some dignity, the time to negotiate is NOW"
excellent analysis should be the basis to bring peace.
Make it stop
Thank you Pascal, excellent interview.
This was a brilliant discussion!!! Thanks Pascal!👍
Excellent interview. Yes, now it's clear Russia only wants to create a buffer zone. 🌺🙏-bmd
Do fat so good -but with just a couple minutes left in the video, why no question or comment on the pipeline destruction?
Very interesting interview, thank you for shearing it!
This guy was not just a general, he was the highest ranking officer in all of the german military. His words carry a lot weight.
Here in the USA, the generals are too content with profiting from their Raytheon stocks to stand up against this bloodbath.
NATO caused all of this, and your answer is to have more of NATO involvement? 😮
What a great job you do Pascal! Everything you provide us with is exquisite quality!
If I were Russia, I would not accept NATO as an unbiased arbitrator. NATO's actions created the conditions which caused the conflict. Lie to me once, and I won't give you a second opportunity.
He is still German but no longer in active duty!
If he was in active duty, he could not be so honest...
Thankfully the brief age of US hegemony is in the final stages. I have far more faith in other countries not getting things so badly wrong.
BRICS++sarà la pietra sulla tomba yankee
The former general wants negotiations with Russia just to avoid being defeated by Russia without solving the Russian concerns about its natoonal security. Therefore Russia will never accept negotiations that do not take account of Russia national security concerns.
The key question of course is: where do you place the new borders between Ukra and Ru? What kind of border should the negotiations be about? The political leaders of various NATO/EU countries, headed by the USA, have effectively chained themselves to the mainmast with the idea that total restoration of Ukraine's pre-2014 borders, massive war damages and in blanco acceptance of moral and legal guilt from Russia is the ONLY way to go. This has been proclaimed as sacred, writ, over and over again, and as a NATO general you probably can't question it in public., even though it's clearly unrealistic.
Someone needs to tell Kiev that "Sorry man, you're not going to get your massive Bonanza Win - peace in this war is a matter of Ukrainian survival, and Russia will get to decide much of the conditions" but so far nobody in the inner circle on the EU/NATO side has had the stomach to say that in public.
Great… but still no comment on the infamous pipeline? Why not?
yes. peace. no war. negotiate pleace
Ukraine is conducting speculative fire on populated urban centres and has done so since 2014. This is not 'restraint' it is simply unreported.
Ukraine are known to expend critical munitions such as HIMARS, even in dire shortages, on this sort of attack. The vast majority of Donbass attacks and all the Belgorod attacks using artillery of this type. This is not unrestrained.
Both sides are conducting a primary political war: the RF is narrowly keeping within its stated war goals of protecting Donbass (after it's failed attempt to 'bounce' the Ukrainians to peace negotiations) and conducting a limited war* with clear exit plans. The Ukrainians are fighting an ideological war against Russians and this dovetails neatly with US desires. *This ideological war is in no way restrained*
*This is why all western reports universally say 'all-out attack' when describing Russian military operations; they don't want these limited goals recognised.
Lies, hypocrisy, and misinformation are cornerstones of all concerted divide and rule strategies...
Exactly. I groan when I read the term "FULL SCALE invasion", EVERY time there is an article in main stream media about Russia's attack on Ukraine. It's been clear from the start it was a limited operation. It has grown in scale as the west has prepped up the Ukrainian military, but Russia is still far from using all it's military in the country.
Greetings from Australia
38 Australians were among the 298 innocent civilians murdered by Putin on MH17. You're no Aussie.
@@user-pj5ub5cp9kThat was a stupid comment. Iam an Australian to but I sure dont blame Putin for that.
@@katalinnemeth5871 His malicious slander is so "true" that the Victoria Police had to harass the Jewish Ukrainian guy who investigated and blew the whistle on this huge lie. He is still on CZcams but too scared to post anything now.
Russia has the backing and support of its people which is confirmed by voters to protect and defend by all means
Thanks so much for providing and translation of this interesting interview. 🙏
We dont want war!
The best information and interviews I ever Heard he’s telling the truth
Genauso wie Sie sagen, Herr General !
ZoZolensky will not agree to any negotiation.
He will immediately agree to whatever his US paymasters ask him.
Because he is safe and his assets are in the US
This retired general talks a lot more sense and is more intelligent than Scholz. Perhaps he could run for the Chancellor's position?
Great interview.
Thanks Pascal, a very informative interview. Core to ones understanding of this conflict.
Great interview I appreciate General for his insight.
If I was to ever speak to a German military person I’d ask them what happened in 1918 with the German Navy Mutiny which spread to the population and let to the formation of the Weimar Republic and Armistice. I’ve only heard what was taught in U.K. classrooms. It was a while ago so it should be reasonably neutral but I still expect he would have a different opinion. Just seen video of the strike on the motorway north of Odessa. Can’t be far off the point when they get rid of Kaiser Zelensky and form a new republic.
Brilliant!! Thank you so much.
A politician making tactical decisions rather than a career army officer trained in war. That's a war that is fought for other purposes than for winning the war, which seems to be the case.
The German general is two years late. Erwin Rommel would have spoken out a long time ago.
Thank dear General! If ever someone spoke a more sombre word, or sober word, yes we need level heads this time! It seems the time has come for all parties to put their cards on the table, for everyone to swallow their pride and listen to each other, and hear what the people are saying! They want PEACE!
I don’t know where to start in response to this interview.
So I’ll just leave it at a hearty thanks for sharing it, and this man’s knowledge and wisdom.
The peace of the world enshrined in the constitution?
We should all have such a clause.
Oh and I loved the appearance of the doggie.
Finally I note, no one talks about Ukraine raining down missiles, drones and (where they can) artillery on to civilian targets … all the time?
One cannot consider Zelensky a "top military commander". What training does he have? Has he even served in the military? Zelensky does what the US, and lead vassal the UK, tells him. Mariupol was Zelensky's Stalingrad moment. There was a time to successfully retreat, but in both cases that critical moment was missed because inexperienced people made the wrong decisions.
Zelensky has Clown training!
@@worththewatch1517 ... 🤡🤡🤡
It's so sad because all the death could have been avoided if only the US would leave other countries alone. Our infrastructure sucks, our schools suck, and our healthcare sucks. Homelessness, crime, unaffordable housing. Flint, Michigan still after 10 years doesn't have clean water, no one held responsible. Don't think the Lehaina fire victims have ever received real help. It's all about taking what other countries have as if it belongs to us. No diplomacy for peace or building true relationships not based on bribes or scratching each others backs.
The problem for the current Kiev regime, is that negotiations with Russia, will also be a catastrophic defeat.
They would have to surrender things that would keep some version of Ukraine alive - but would put all of them in Jail.
Yes but what choice have they? NATO (USA) decides, claiming that Russia is the problem. Russia keeps to international law, ignored by the "rules-based West!!)and wants its own security. why not???? Peace is wanted by the actual populations everywhere.
Better to admit defeat now and surrender before they lose even more territory and tens of thousands of their young men. The land lost so far is gone. There is no way they can get this back, unless NATO/USA moves in with troops. Even then it's far from certain they will reclaim it.
Good relevant, interesting questions. A very good programme. Thank you.
hah, he missed the train by at least couple months on that one. only thing to negotiate about now is exact form and timeline of capitulation - sure, it would save ukrainin lives, but the empire does not care about that in the slightest, so he is just throwing words in the wind
The Swiss have never argued they just sit on the fence and do nothing. No opinion required please
"Russia cannot threaten the United States position as a world power".
Really? This is the same type of assertion that was made by Prof. Mearsheimer in his famous book! China depends on Russia's military might to fence off the United States.
Thank you for posting this!
I doubt that Zensky made any of the calls himself... nothing on the side of Ukraine happens without N4t0 being envolved
Stunning Stunning realism from this General. No equals. Rest are basically running speculative talks
Very candid interview. Very factual and also fair assessments. Wonderful interview. I find the truth the General speaks indeed very refreshing.
Very good, thank you!
Thank you Pascal for sharing with us such important and informative conversations
Good morning Gen Harald and Pascal ❤️🇩🇪🇨🇭🦾😇
Thanks
What an great Interview I watched today! The German General is admire me of his Knowledge and ideas in military and political views, also the inter viewer is throwing great questions. well done. god bless these gentlemen for long healthier life.and give us good interviews like this.
great speaker and the interviewer is exceptional,
Very cool.-- usually watch 2x speed but this was amazing
This is the voice of Germany that I respected from my memory. Not the farce of today,
Very sincere talk from the general an expert in war operations.
Fascinating interview
, Exceptional interview ❗❗❗
Just imagine a German that is not a warmonguer!!! amazing!
I am no general, but I have been saying this since xmas.
I said it from day one. Ukraine was the military strength of Canada and Russia was just below the United States. It wouldn't matter how much stuff the world sent to Canada if the United States invaded them, Canada would lose. And what's funny is almost no one would disagree with that assessment but lose their logic when it comes to Ukraine.
@@johnnopeyy4129 Gaza exposed the hypocrisy, no one has done more to promote Russia than nato. Even a layman knows right from wrong and a losing game when he sees it. All these years the countries we have been told are the bad guys are actually nowhere near as bad as the west.
"Ein bisschen frieden " was the winner song in 1982 in the Eurovisin Competition song by the deutsche NICOLE let the politic leaders singing this song !
They can't...they are singing 'Rocking in the Free World'.
@@perlefisker Top ! indeed, they played in a bar in Kiev