Here's Why Hyundais are Crap
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Scotty, what do you think about the CVT transmissions that Subaru has been using?
I know you like Honda and Toyotas, but what about Subarus?
If Americans didn't purchase so many Automatic Transmission cars this would be a rare problem like it is in the UK.
Same goes for the Ford Focus and Fiestas.. The Manual transmission Cars are fine.
Ok I watched another video where you said you help diagnose if there's too much pressure when you go to fill with the little can but I can't find it. Do I need to take it to a mechanic so they can suck the refrigerant out with a recycler? It just started blowing hot, it went from ice cold to hot in about 10 minutes. Went to top it off thought maybe the refrigerant was low but the cans pressure gauge was in the red. Any suggestions?
Scotty what about the Genius series? It's like Toyota and Lexus. Just wondering if the G70 is a good car?
The US National Highway Traffic Safety Administration issued a recall for 2019-2020 Hyundai Kona and 2020 Hyundai Ioniq electric vehicles after over a dozen battery fires were reported. The agency is also warning owners against parking their vehicles near their homes or any flammable structure.
An electrical short in the Kona’s lithium-ion battery cells increases the risk of fire while parked, charging, and driving, NHTSA said, adding, “The safest place to park them is outside and away from homes and other structures.”
Last month, Hyundai announced that it would recall some 76,000 Kona EVs built between 2018 and 2020 over battery fire concerns. It was the second recall for the Kona but the first one that was global in nature. The automaker also said it would recall some Ioniqs and electric buses that it manufactures. In total, Hyundai said it would recall 82,000 vehicles, which it estimates will cost $900 million.
Something my great uncle did, a mechanic of 45 years, was he would mark the bolts on the parts he suspected were broken before bringing his cars in for warranty repair. If the marker was untouched, he would immediately know nothing was done so he could threaten legal action.
Similar logic in aircraft production. Torque striped jam nuts after final torque. No torque stripe? Evidence the bolt wasn’t torqued.
However, your uncle’s methodology is an interesting application and a good one at that. 5 minutes before running to the shop to keep a mechanic honest
Purchased my Sorento 1 1-2 ago and have already had to replace Engine, brakes and rotors twice and now part of the transmission is bad. Kia doesn’t seem to care or want to help me. Think twice before you purchase a Kia vehicle. They will break and break on you and you will be too far upside down to unload it.
I've done this multiple times. Taken pictures of part number stickers too when the smart phones came along.
I can believe it. Especially when dealing with dealerships
@@factsmatter6980 If it has low miles still, trade it in now and buy a Toyota/Lexus. I did that last year and have zero regrets, much better built.
Alabama guy here, I previously worked in assembly for Hyundai. Quality control is top notch, and extreme care is taken into each step. Hyundai vehicles are extremely reliable, but I suggest steering away from dealerships when you have issues. They will nickel and dime you, it’s better to find a mechanic you trust and stick with them.
I don’t associate with Hyundai anymore after a career change, however, I may return to the company as a risk/safety manager in the near future. I thoroughly enjoyed my time at Hyundai.
read much???? This was a warranty issue if you knew anything you would know you MUST go to a dealer for new car warranty
What is your take on the Theta 2 engines?
@Adrian Lemos Theta 2 had to problems. Plastic part which was prone to crack (swaped for metal one) and people never change spark plugs as they should what is unfortunatelly death sentence for these engines.
Hyundais are good reliable vehicles. On par with Mazdas. Honestly can't go wrong, good bang for your buck. I spent a lot of time researching build quality, was looking at Elantras, ended up finding a better deal on a Mazda3. But both are good options.
@@AutisticMorty They’re okay. But I had to drive a fair share of them with their engines ticking.
Nothing like the daily dose of Scotty yelling at us while flailing his arms around for 12 minutes straight. Lol.
At least we know he got his workout in for that day!
Lol
Bought an elantra brand new. Had for 5 years. Never had the slightest issue with it. Its an incredibly well built car for the low price tag
Friend has a 2012 Sonata that caught on fire while her mechanic was driving it after a maintenance schedule.
Makes me wonder how long a car should last because a brand new car not having issues in 5 years means nothing to me. For the price you pay I want to know how it's doing 10+ years later
I bought 5 years old 2006 Elantra. It had 100k km. 11years later Now it's 300K. It's the best car the money can get. I did my oil changes and the brakes myself. easy to work on.
I had to change the exhaust and the rad and Batterie.
Different for me, don’t get me wrong it’s been minor stuff but I had to change the ignition coils & sparks plugs, I had to replace the battery for a 2nd time and then I had to replace my driver door handle, because it came off completely , now I gotta figure what my P0455 code is coming from.
got my 2013 elantra used in 2014 and had it 8 years. so its been around a total of 10 years and had no major issues. just normal issues like changing battery and new tires etc. great car. getting 2023. just waiting for it to show up on the lot now. hope this one gives me a good amount of service
Hyundai's dealers are 99% of the time ALWAYS the problem. I have 4 dealers in a 20 mile radius, but I drive 40 miles outside of town to a Hyundai service dealer that I actually trust.
I'm lucky to have found a good, honest mechanic near me. It's like finding a unicorn. It was winter and I needed brakes, now I've thrown on rotors and pads many times, but I'm in a condo with a tiny garage, and it was just too cold. My guy let me get my coated rotors and Akebono pads online and installed for 150 bucks. They never let you buy your own parts, they want the big mark up.
Kia dealership salesman are rude and arrogant
Same in The Netherlands when it comes to some Kia dealerships. Things like never changing the PCV valve during the lifetime of the car and stuff like that.
James. The same here in South Africa. I drive out of my way to dealership that I like and communicate well with. I drive Kia Sportage Diesel. 2019 purchased in Jan. 120000km. Only replaced tyres so far. Great gas mileage and the 8 speed auto has been a please. Has returned 47mpg in your terms since I have had it.
Same goes for us
As a former owner of both a Kia and a Hyundai I can definitely attest to the fact that Toyota and Lexus, brands we now own, are not only much better but well worth the price difference.
Have a 2021 Rav 4 that Dies right before you stop and I'm getting a new one under the Lemon Law because Toyota has never been able to repair it
@@paulhailey2537 No car manufacturer is perfect and sometimes they may have a defective car.
We own both, we use the toyota as a family car and the hyundai if only 2 persons are riding it
@@davinp LMFAO AND NOT A SINGLE MECHANIC OR THE ENTIRE COMPANY HAS A CLUE HOW TO REPAIR IT
@@mcc7762 YES , EXACTLY AND IT DIES BEFORE THE CAR STOPS AND IT SHAKES THE CAR LIKE A MOTHER FUK R
I have to say my experience has been worlds apart from what I'm reading here. I fully believe in Hyundai as I am about to explain,
1st one I bought was a used one in 2007. An Elantra Hatchback can not recall the specific year. Either 2003 or 2004. Anyway, great ride and gas milage was out of this world. That vehicle had window curtain airbags which saved my wife in a 5 car crash. She was hit twice and spun out. hitting a third car which was a pickup truck. The vehicle was gone but I was so impressed because there wasn't a scratch on my wife. Even the first responders were amazed she could walk away. That convinced me to buy a brand new 2008 Hyundai Elantra. I use to drive 80 miles one way to work (minimum 160 miles a day) so I would change the oil and filters, every other month. Always bought the best tires with the highest warranty because we drove so much. Changed brakes yearly. I am a fanatic when it comes to maintenance. Could not afford to get stuck because I had to go to work. I rotated this car with my 2006 Ford Freestyle. Also maintained that just as well. Anyway, I had that Elantra until a driver t-boned it and bent the frame. That was in 2019. My Elantra had 286000 miles. The only major work was 1 spit plug. Fixed very easily with a heli-coil, and 2nd was a new timing belt which I did myself along with changing the water pump and tension pullies inside. Other than that she was my baby! Always reliable. Never left me stranded. I love Hyundai. They got no bad reputation with me.
@HansomeNdebonair They are made with thinner metal for the bodies, cheaper thinner plastics in interior, have history engines failures in multiple models. They recalled the engine on several models and years but won't recall the Tucson with same issues. The 10 yr / 100K warranty is only valid for the first owner, 2nd owner only gets the 5 yet 60k warranty. I have a 2012 Tucson, gonna get rid of it before the engine fails. I love their designs of their models and looks but I am hesitant to ever buy one again.
@@jarod3371 at least they do give a warranty like that. Not like BMWs that give 3-5 years
@@jarod3371 the 10 yr warranty applies if you purchase certified.
Older Hyundai’s and Kia’s were built better than the newer Hyundai’s and kias. This video is mostly about the newer Kia/Hyundai vehicles. Haha
@@jarod3371 the car is 10 years old! If the engine didn't fail until now, it's unlikely that it will!
Every Hyundai I’ve ever owned ran beautifully with no issues whatsoever. We’re they high horsepower and luxurious? No! Were they affordable and got me from point A to point B with basically no maintenance. Hell yeah!
Hyundai also has great manufacturer 100K power train warranty, which you have to hand it to them for that. They stand by the car.
Unfortunately they have a major pain peeling problem with vehicles that wee painted white, And I am talking major, my 2018 elantra the paint started peeling a year ago. I'm communication with Hyundai now to see if they will repaint it.
@@grandpalapietra5129 I have a 2008 with 159k miles, and zero problems.
@@irisbaez1972 have you driven him on a long road 6 to 7 hours trip?
@@grandpalapietra5129 honda has he same issues with white and black. its not just hyundai.
My 2013 Elantra’s paint looks good as new
One of the few things that Hyundai is actually good at is making conventional automatic torque converter transmissions. The 6 speed autos are actually reliable. Scotty is right, the Hyundai dealers are not good to work with. They find ANY possible excuse not to perform warranty and recall work.
We own a 2017 Hyundai Tucson AWD and haven't had 'ANY' problems with our car with that same engine and transmission, it's one of the best vehicles out of 21 that we've owned.
@@frederickmoller wife has a 2017 Santa Fe. No issues at all been a good car so far
@@frederickmoller my '11 Sonata was a disaster. My '17 Sorento is losing oil. I won't be buying another Korean car.
My friend must have gotten lucky then. She went in for an oil change last year and ended up with a whole new engine free of charge! Luckily it was still under warranty!
@@zanesutherland406 yeah I got a free engine, albeit an obviously used one. The stuff I had to fight for were the safety recalls (brake pedal switch, clock spring, steering parts, etc.).
Still driving a 2010 Hyundai all original parts 240000 miles still runs great. The real issue is the paint.
Average 2010 Elantra enjoyer B)
Paint wasn’t great on my 2015.
ya probably not worth now. but for future cars when youg et them. go somewhere and get a ceramic coating. last for 7 years and protects the paint. although better tog et ceramic coating if you hand wash your own car at home.
I had a completely different experience with Hyundai. I have a 2014 Genesis coupe, ok it's a manual and I'm just past 100k miles with no troubles whatsoever. My son has a Sonata, automatic 2015...also no big problems, no shifting issues, he has just replaced breaks, changed tires and replaced the battery -- zero major break downs--that said, maybe we're just lucky (or we just maintain the car correctly)
I bought a 2017 Elantra SE when it was nearly new, got a fantastic deal, paid $11,000. My son now owns it. Fantastic car, great gas mileage and looks amazing. Now has over 100, 000, only issue was a failed coil pack, $85 from Auto-zone, a breeze to fit.
I have a 2016 Elantra, Korean built, engine crapped out of 50k and had to be totally replaced (luckily under warranty) and for some reason the charcoal canister cracked and threw up a check engine light and had to have that replaced for a hefty sum. Not a huge repair but something that shouldn't go bad in the first 5 years....or ever actually. Overall, I do not like the car, and I would not buy another one, I consider it quite a turd. Give it to my Son while while commuting to college, and it's his problem now.
We have a 2020 Hyundai Elantra SEL and it’s a great car ……EVERYTHING you touch has a smooth luxury feel to it ……every switch, every button, every lever ……a great car …..only paid $18,650 OUT THE DOOR …..car was $16,444 as I recall. ……loaded with safety features. …….30 city 40 highway …..plenty of pep.
Sell it now while you can
Matt D my thoughts exactly lol
@@billgale5568 it's still new........
Man...i love when scotty pulls ups the diagnostic tool. I use to be an embedded systems engineer and seeing the CAN bus brings back memories of working on the controllers.
One of these days I'd like the camera to turn around and show the orchestra Scotty is conducting...
I’ve had Hyundai for 4 years, never a problem and a super experience all around.
Which model?
Great cars..incredible longevity
@@giselleduff1001 toyota
Ive had Hyundais for 7 years never had a problem. Had a 2015 hyundai sonata, 2018 hyunda tucson and now i have 2021 hyundai sonata.
They were all leased so maybe thats the reason why i never experience anything bad
Me to i have a 2019 bought it in 2019 of march it has 42063 miles and it still a car i wouldnt sale
Three times transmission change and has the car for 3 months in the shop lemon law get a lawyer
This guy always has me dying when he throws the engine covers 😂😂😂
Same here 🤣
Scotty frisbees.
I take them off(i want to see all engine components and possible leaks)but save them and put everything stock back up when i get it inspected or when i sell the car.
Shockingly I did the same thing, but I was in fkn Vegas, in summer...
I throw my Camry cover in the trash
That 2.4L gets awesome mileage. I rented a 2017 Hyundai Sonata once during bad weather flight cancellations, I drove from Toronto Canada to Princeton New Jersey on one tank of gas and still had enough gas to get around the next day from Princeton to New York City... Very impressive fuel mileage on ECO mode on the highway with cruise control set to 70MPH for majority of the drive.
I have the exact same model i bought at 30k miles, ive already driven it to 60k miles within a year and a half, and ive had literally zero issues. Honestly its right out of the bracket of their older models have all those engine issues. I do agree that the transmission is a little slow, but i just tend to cruise anyhow. Itll pick up when you need it too in or out of sports mode. The dealerships in NC have been very reliable with so i hope to see it smoothly make it past 150k. I do agree though i get about 38 miles on the higway, and it says about 600 miles in a full tank if i ever top it off.
I had a 2001 Hyundai Elantra and put 411,000 miles on it. Gave it to my aunt to drive back and fourth to work and she put another 15k on it. Changed the timing belt at 300k and it still looked good. Because of my Elantra I had three other people buy a Hyundai and all of them have over 250k on theirs and they still drive them. Only thing that went out pretty often is the H7 headlight bulbs. Only thing I ever did was change the oil regulary. I had a stick and generally stick shift cars just last longer. I also had a 1993 Honda Del Sol that had this solenoid that blew out and the car had no spark and I walked the 45 minute home to call the wrecker to get the Del Sol. No warning, NOTHING and was told that those things can blow out of the blue after 30k. So some of you had a bad experience with Hyundai but mine was great. It was the legendary Honda that had me walking home. So I don't prey at the alter of ANY car company. They all have their good years and bad years and good models and bad.
My experience with Hyundai is the older ones before 2011 are more reliable....
I still have a 06 Sonata V6 with 145,000 miles.
Only thing I've changed is the oil and starter.
I also purchased an 04 Tiburon V6 w/98,000 miles 2 years ago..No problems.
agree.......hyundai n kia not bad n giving toyota n honda a good run for their money. lots of older high mileage hyundais n kias still on the road just like the toyotas n hondas. honda today leads
in having the most problems n recalls.
I have had a 2002 Elantra GT. The 2001 to 2010 Elantra`s have an oldschool 2.0 Liter engine with mediocre performance (138hp) and acceptable fuel efficiency... And this engine lasts forever. Same with the 2.7 v6 tho that one drinks way too much gas for it`s power output. The 2.7 sounds good tho.
This is lie. OP is a Hyundai employee. No Hyundai has ever lasted more than 50k miles.
How the hell did your timing belt last 300k? Are you telling the truth? Or are you just another Hyundai fanboy?😂😂😂
I had a 2015 Elantra Limited with all the toys... put 170,000 on it with pretty much ZERO problems... great gas mileage... I'd buy another.
Yeah I was gonna say they are good cars for the price. Can't really compare it to a Honda which costs twice as much money
@@raymondkidwell7135 in what world does a Civic cost twice as much as an Elantra. Maybe a few thousand more new but not “twice as much”.
Hyundai Sonata has a problem where the engine seizes without warning. The average repair cost is about $5,000 and the average mileage at the time of seizing is around 90,000 miles. A class action lawsuit in 2015 found the 2.4-liter engine to be defective.
I have a 2015 Sonata and it is now 7 years old and I have NEVER had any problems with my car Thank you!!!
My wife has had 5 new Hyundais in our 32 years together, 2 Sonatas, 1 Elantra, 1 Tuscan and 2 Santa Fe's, oh hell that's 6. All great cars, no issues. I mean 6 for 6 is pretty good. If it wasn't for our 4 kids trying to total them, 2 managed it, we wouldn't have had so many.
I don't care.all the Hyundai's that I've owned were reliable and I will continue to purchase!!!
We’re on our 3rd Hyundai Sonata & never had a problem other than a smart Trunk release malfunction on the current 2018.
@@MrElwoodCaudill may I ask, what is the most miles you ever put on any of the 3 Hyundai's you have owned?
I had a Hyundia Exel that did about 720000 km which is over 440000 miles driving it real hard before it died... Great car . It sounds that Sotty has more a problem with the dealer more than the car .
Enjoyed your videos! My. 2015 Hyundai Sonata Hybrid couldn’t keep up with my old 2008 Camry. We ended up fixing it,supposed the tech from Hyundai said it was fixed. Dang thing made noises when shifting and shut down on the interstate. We sold it as is, and got a two year old Camry SE right before the pandemic. It’s a speedy car, but doesn’t look like it.
One correction Scotty, MSRP of that car in 2019 was $25,000, if they actually paid $21K they got a steal. I got my car from the same dealership too and I can agree with you on the not-so great customer service.
Down payment.
I had a 2020 sonata and that thing was such a lemon I had to sell it after a year: car seat broke, hood dented from the factory, windows don’t fully go up and down properly “sometimes”, front camera and rear camera had fogged up inside, I would be scared to own the car beyond 5 years
I’ve had my 21 sonata for 10 months now and has been the best car I’ve had 🤷🏻♂️🤞
10 months? Come back in 10 years 🤣
@@Wodkaholic who keeps a car for 10 years? Lol broke boi
Give it time
My Elantra is 11 years old, 223 thousand miles. Works like a dream. Only issue when it was in my hands was getting a new battery
I have a 2010 Hyundai getz manual and I’m extremely happy with it :) it’s my first car
WHat model do you have?
Oh I did not know about the Getz. Well these weren't sold in the US so I didn't know about it. I see that it's a diesel - a rare engine for a car in the USA.
Yeah, that Sonata is a beautiful car. I'd just keep it in Sport mode and forget about it.
I enjoy your vids but I gotta say, I’m on my third Hyundai and they’ve been bulletproof.
I agree.. they have the best warranty in the BIZ
Yup!
Getting mine to 150k miles soon. Absolutely love it
giv it to me 1 minnit il sho u ho bullit it is
For real.
Love your vids Scotty
Another informative and entertaining video. As long as my left leg and right arm work, I have no transmission problems.
My first car was 94 Hyundai that broke down every other week. Mom has a 2015 Hyundai Accent, tiny engine, great gas mileage. AC went out few times. Overall great car 🚗
Shouldn't be having AC problems till it's 20 years old.
AC going out a few times is not characteristic of a good car - sad your expectations are so low you've probably never owned a Toyota.
@@stuntdriver2147 my tacoma was 19 years old before I had to recharge it.
Newer Hyundai are actually decent cars. Here in the middle east (specifically gulf states) Hyundai's are getting VERY popular! and looks like even taking over Toyota's sometimes. Overall reliable cars, cheap and easy to maintain, good price.
@@hircine92h Agreed, Aside from the AC flaw, Hyundai Accent is a perfect little car for a little old lady who barely drives. Took it on a 200 mile trip last night, full tank, still had over half tank when got back. Eco Mode on ^_^
We bought a new 2004 Hyundai Santa Fe 3.5L in late 2003. My wife had it as a daily driver for 14 years. We relocated from CA to TN driving it cross country. Ran like a Swiss watch at 170K miles on the clock.Vehicle now has 215K on her and has been wonderful. Replaced electrical components, etc as they wore out and this Santa Fe has never let us down. Between myself and a great private mechanic in CA, vehicle has been loved and nurtured.
Love your Videos!! We have 3 Hyundai all different models and they are great! I get it I grew up being a Toyota guy but gotta be honest that gap on my end no longer exists for me. Keep up the amazing videos!
I've been very pleased with my 2015 Sonata. I only have 115000 miles on it so far but I've experienced zero issues with reliability. I have owned 4 toyota vehichles and still consider them the most reliable but I definitely think Hyandai makes a reliable car - in my opinion.
And they now make the best hot hatch, Hyundai is cool!
I have a 2015 as well with 220k Miles I love it to death😍
I have a 2015 too with 139k and no issues
Keep an eye on that oil level them things love burning oil. The older Hyundai's qre more reliable is just that cheap people get then and don't take care of them
@@keithbowman6375
Does the AC work ..?
I had a 2009 Sonota kept it for 12 years and 200,000 miles only replacing wearable items . It was a very dependable car.
I currently have a 2009 Sonata Limited V6 with 90k miles and NEVER EVER had a problem. I love that car so much
@@1slonata Same car my father-in-law has and he's had the same experience.
@@1slonata I think 2011 is when they turned to junk when they went to the direct injection engines.
@@MyLifeThai371 yea, those GDI’s were garbage, notorious for fires. Which gave Hyundai a bad reputation. Hyundai is now the 3rd most reliable car company according to JD Power
2nd owner of 2008 for 12 years 182K miles and not a single failure nor stored code.. Last year's road trips it yielded 35 to 36 mpg real world on a thousand mile trip. Forget the new gas saving promises. We had a 99 Prizm that got 28 all day long and that was over 2 decades ago.
Scotty, keep up the good work. When you hang up your camera, it'll be a sad day for all of us who watch and learn from you..... I love the way you man handle those stupid plastic engine covers. 🤣
I just bought a used Hyundai 2017 50k km on it and I noticed it shifts gears kind of rough, particularly the 5th. The RPM's will occasionally jump up when it's supposed to go into 6th almost like it's dropping down a gear because it needs more torque. I have no idea what is going on and the dealership said there wasn't any problems when I took it in for maintenance and told them the issue. Took it to another dealership and they couldn't find any issues as well. I'm stumped. Just going to stick to Toyota's or Hondas from now on.
Glad to hear all the positive comments for Hyandai as my son just bought his first car, a new 2022 Venue. I was getting nervous he may have made the wrong choice. Ironically, my very first car I bought was a Hyandai over 30 years ago, I believe they were a brand-new company back then. Unfortunately, I totaled it in less than a month, so I really didn't get a chance to experience it.
Honestly I bought my 2010 i20 in 2012 and ten years on (age 12) she's still going strong..super love her.
The only problems I've had were some jumping/shuddering in 2018 and it needed a new coil pack to fix that, and this year electronic power steering failure, but that was not the car's fault: the battery leaked acid and that had started affecting the car's computer. All perfectly good now.
Happily repainting her this year and hope we'll enjoy another good two plus years together.
@@giselleduff1001 Nice, how many miles?
Thx for wasting my time since you have nothing to contribute opinion wise. At least I have a gripe.
Your son must be very wealthy.
Well Scotty, I have two comments:
First, most car dealers are scum. That goes for every brand, not just Yunday. I bought mine used, and the dealer I went to ( who I did not buy the car from ) replaced the engine under the recall with no problems. They did the work right, and as fast as you could expect for a job like that, and it didn't cost me a dime.
Second, Yunday may not be as good as Honda or Toyota*, but they are better than everything else, including, sadly, now Ford as well. ( *Oops, I forgot Mazda. ) They build a decent car at a decent price. Anybody's overloaded luxury boat is going to be unreliable, nowadays you need to stick to the basic models.
That dealer recently sent me another letter offering me almost what I paid for the car nine years ago. I thought about it for a while, and decided that if you have a good car now, you would be stupid to sell it at any price. The world has gone crazy.
Hyundai / Kia are leagues above Toyota / Honda now. One is making competitive, good to drive vehicles whilst the other two continue to make bland, uninspiring, and frankly boring vehicles such as the Camry or Accord.
In Europe, Kia / Hyundai is everywhere now and Honda / Toyota are a ghost town. Says it all.
Mazda is ok. My family own two of them for six years and no problems.
Just had Ford escape engine replaced due to 3rd cylinder design flaw. 2017 78K miles. Own it outright.
In the interim there were no loaners & rentals for indeterminate time were costly, so bought new Hyundai Kona at 1.9%. This expense was not in the budget....
Which one would you keep?
Or w/ the world on its ear- keep both?
Thnx
@@britexpat_l33t LOL yeah right got any articles to back this up
@@britexpat_l33t Hyundai and Kia are ok, and I see a lot of people are driving such cars in recent years (I'm in Europe as well). So, not going to say anything bad about those brands, I think they're good.
BUT - B U T - to say they're above Toyota and Honda is hilarious.
A Hyundai/ KIA is not above Toyota or Honda on any day.
Have a 2017 Santa Fe. Was a victim of that Theta 2 engine problem. Engine broke down at 65k. Was at the dealership for 2 months and just finally got it back. Had to get a rental since they had no loaner vehicle available and now awaiting reimbursement. I do like the vehicle because of the roomy interior but also didn’t want to start looking for another vehicle due to the crazy prices.
Reminds me of a coworker. Had about the same mileage on a road trip in the States (we are Canadian). Bad situation as his vacation was ruined and he had his young son with him. Had to go to hotel while vehicle towed…. Ended up stranded a while in the nearest city…. Eventually flew back and just abandoned the vehicle down there when they had trouble fixing it…. Swore off Hyundai forever…..
Nice video, the video mentioned when the car switch to sport mode the transmission noise is gone, in sport model the transmission gear would shift when the RPM of the engine is higher, but would it makes the RPM of the transmission runs lower and relieve some load from the transmission?
what are your thoughts on the Mazda CX-5? Is it reliable and worth the money? Any advice you can give would be greatly appreciated.
I have 2012 Sonata and I love it. However I can tell there is some lack of quality control but its still not a bad car. I still wish I had my 97 Camry that I put near 375000 miles on.
My first commuter was a honda civic... when it finally died I got a used 2011 Hyundai Elantra. I guess I was lucky and the thing was just as reliable as my civic. Eventually sold it when the mileage got way up there.
Hi Scotty, is this the same with the 2022 Hyundai Accent? I’m about to buy one next month. Thank you.
Hey Scotty, what kinds of scan tools do you use on your cars as well as customers cars?
I bought a 2016 Elantra new and my son has it now, it was one of the ones where the engine got replaced at 50,000 miles cuz it crapped out. Anyways the transmission always felt funky to me in regular mode, so I always kept it in eco mode where it seemed like it felt normal.
@@Mikeya85 There's a reason they extended the warranty for it. My 2013 had the engine replaced between 50,000 and 60,000 due to engine noise. Other than that, it's been problem free (though apparently a magnet for other cars when parked).
@@Mikeya85 I think part of my problem was the short trips where it didn't get time to properly warm up while in college.
We bought a 2012 hyundai accent in 2012. It now has 163,000 miles. And it's working fine. No fire, no issues. We bought it for $16,000 new. So idk...
Honda and Toyota like quality!
Male Karen, "I don't like how it shifts." Also male Karen, "I don't know how to drive stick."
The turbo in my Tucson cracked. The dealer went out of their way to help, working hard to get me back on the road, and Hyundai Motor America followed up with a call and sent me a reimbursement check for the repair to my home a few months later (vehicle under warranty). While I was disappointed in the turbo cracking, I was impressed at the professionalism of the service department and the manufacturer. Still, I will consider Toyota, Lexus, naturally aspirated, next time, doubtless.
maybe consider a NA Hyundai? No reason to ditch them if they treated you well, and rectified the issue? Turbos are an extra layer of complexity, so they’re something else that can break, I’m sure you knew you were signing up for this, lol.
Had an I10 for over a year and the gearbox was horribly refined, the engine seemed good, it was MPI injection not that GDI rubbish but I'm not impressed with their transmissions
Easy fix - keep the transmission in Sport all the time. It's barely noticeable and won't impact highway mileage in any way whatsoever.
Wow, you taught Scotty what to do!
Can you please say honestly how Hyundai Palisade v6 gdi engine is? Is this very good quality v6 engine? Will this engine run 500k to 600k km? I want to know because I have a confusion to choose between Hyundai Palisade V6 vs Volkswagen Atlas sel V6, please give me the right information
So out of curiosity. If hyundai/kia make better pistons would they be a good brand?
I had a Hyundai accent I paid £200 for It it had 72000 miles on the clock it was a1997 I ran it for 7 years it never let me down no airbags no power steering just a simple car and you could see everything under the hood and get to parts easy... today's cars are too complicated and jammed under the hood with plastic crap.💩. It's still running fine and engine has no noises .
Lol.......!!!! They are good cars. I know a few people that have one. Goes goes and goes. 11,000 new.
One of my relatives had a 2015 sonata, 115k, oil was changed on time. It burned 3 1/2 quarts between oil changes at 5k miles at that milage. Not right.
You are suppose to change the oil every 3,000 miles not 5,000 on the 2015 sonata. So there’s that.
I've got a 2009 Accent that doesn't even use the rest of the half-quart left over each time I change it every 7,500 miles.
@@tatt4music 3k miles oil change interval is ridiculous. My Honda does 5k intervals all day without burning any oil, and its 21 years old.
My 2018 Sonata burns 1.5 quarts per 1k miles. Little known fact, but due to class action, there’s a LIFETIME replacement on the engine, regardless of miles and ownership changes. Getting mine replaced free of charge by Hyundai. The engines are defective. You need to press the dealer on it.
My Hyundai 2011 has also a transmission problem, it jerks when I put it on drive. The former owner said it's the engine support. I doubt it because it only jerks on drive and not when you shift it on reverse or any other gears running or not.
I own a 2018 Sonata 2.4, purchased new. Mine also makes the same whine/whistle sound when shifting into 5th when the transmission is warmed up, it’s done that since day one with 41 miles. It’s usually most noticeable on hot days.
I’m at 37,000 miles currently, and just recently I’ve been feeling faint shuddering vibrations from the transmission in 2nd gear. A couple months ago the car began shuddering as it shifted into 2nd gear, and it felt like the torque converter clutch was locking and unlocking for a period of maybe 5 seconds.
Needless to say, I have my doubts regarding the durability of the transmission.
Hyundai put in a new catalytic converter for me at 97K miles at no cost to me, no questions asked even though it was outside of the 80K/8 Year Emissions warranty. So I think everyone has different experiences. The CAT fractured for an unknown reason; no signs of excessive fuel or carbon causing it.
Excessive oil consumption cause then to fail ?
@@stevebrackett2676 yeah because when oil burns it has to leave via the exhaust system and it's having to scrub more stuff than its intended
I was in a Midas shop getting a tire repaired a couple of years ago and saw a relatively new Elantra in the shop-asked the manager what was wrong with it. The manager said it needed a new transmission. I was shocked because the car looked in showroom condition.
Hyundai transmissions used to be made by Mitsubishi, but not sure if they still are?
Don't believe anything Midas tells you and don't ever go there for service. They tried to rip me off big time on a brake job and I have proof if they read this and have an issue with what I'm saying.
@@johnl3359 Midas is still ripping off people? My dad told me to avoid business with them too…in the 90’s, when I got my license as a teenager. I guess their business practices never changed or evolved into something better.
Rule 1: don’t go to Midas to check/replace your transmission.
My brother got a 2021 K5 Gt-line awd last year in Red, next day it was leaking, took it to the dealership and it had a cracked transmission. Think it only had 4k miles on it. It for some reason had Green Cost Co psi caps on a New car.
They made it right and replaced it with a 200 mile wolf gray fully loaded version, Red interior and all. I currently have 2019 G70 Awd, pretty sure the 3.3T models are solid so far. Keeping my fingers crossed.
My last three cars are Hyundais. The first to were Accents and went well over 100,000 miles with very few problems. The second one blew a transmission at 49,000 miles but were completely covered by the warranty, which covered free towing, and would have paid for a motel but I was staying with family.
I got an Elantra that currently has 40,000 miles that has cost me almost nothing in maintenance.
Ok I watched another video where you said you help diagnose if there's too much pressure when you go to fill with the little can but I can't find it. Do I need to take it to a mechanic so they can suck the refrigerant out with a recycler? It just started blowing hot, it went from ice cold to hot in about 10 minutes. Went to top it off thought maybe the refrigerant was low but the cans pressure gauge was in the red. Any suggestions?
The guy has a piece-of-crap Hyunda with 45,000 miles on it. He gets 38MPG and loves the car other than the little noise when it shifts into 5h. Scotty can't find anything wrong. He has 3 choices: 1. Live with it, 2. Put it in Sport Mode, 3. Trade it for a Toyota. Problem solved.
Scotty is teaching me a lot.
PUT IT IN SPORT MODE, LOL
2005 Tucson here 220k miles. Honestly shocked it's still fine. Only issue is gas is expensive now 😅
Finally you make a video about this car. I recently just bought one at drive time. The car shakes bad when taking off. And makes a loud rattle noise when cold start. With only 75k 😏😏 need to fix it tho any thoughts. Mine is the sonata 1.6t 2018
My dad leased a Sonata a few years ago and it was awesome. Zero issues.
Scotty, would you still recommend a new Hyundai with a manual transmission? Considering the 2022 Elantra N with the Manual. My current 2018 Elantra Sport with the DCT Auto had to have its transmission replaced under warranty and I went through a 3 month process as well. I genuinely think this is because of the dealers being horrible more Thant Hyundai as a company. Because once I contacted corporate they got my car done within a week.
There’s a guy online who has a Sonata N-Line. He has the transmission replaced after owning the car for a month! Hyundai is hit or miss it seems.
I've had mine for 3 weeks now. Other than the gas tank and sound system I have no complaints. I am concerned about the amount of electronics over time though.
Scotty, what are your thoughts on the Hyundai Accent? One of the cheapest new cars on the market, and the reviews seem pretty favorable.
Last year for the Accent was 2022.
My 2016 Elantra never gave me any problems. Now I'm driving a 2021 and its been great for the first year.
Hyundai offers a lot of car for the money and a great warranty. The adaptive cruise control and lane assist works like a charm.
My old 2011 Kia Forte had piston slap then it got totaled by another driver. Then I got my 2013 Hyundai Elantra GT with 109K miles and it runs great! Also have a 2015 Hyundai Genesis Coupe with 26K miles. Everything is great so far.
I have a 2014 Hyundai Elantra GT with 49K miles and it’s great. The GTs are made in Korea maybe that’s why?
We picked up an 07 Azera with 79k miles. Probably Hyundais most underrated car but damn is it reliable. Only looks good in white or silver though lol
@@commycasty Azera is a sharp looking car.
When you removed the engine cover on this engine, i puked a little in my mouth.
Look at all that plastic.
Just absolutely vile.
Epitome of cheapness.
Have you seen a BMW same plastic and definitely not cheap .
My 2003 Mazda 6 was all plastic too!
@@Megdad22 Scptty takes pleasure dissing anything other than Honda or Tpyota .
All cars engines are like that nowadays...including toyotas so cut the drama.
Let us assume for a moment that the dealer has ‘changed all the internals’ and that the casing is the only original part. Since the gearbox still make the same noise of which the owner complained, it surely follows that the only item that can be responsible MUST be the casing.
That being the situation, the casing needs to be changed.
Alternatively they could stop taking their customer for a mug and either fault-find the actual cause or actually replace the entire gearbox.
I've had two Hyundais, all bought new, a 2008 Tucson , served me pretty well for 9 years, it was a work horse!
Then got 2017 Sonata 2.0 Turbo, used it for three years and had to sell it for financial reasons, the only issue I had with it was a leak in the inlet turbo pipe and had to be replaced, other than that it was a very comfortable and smooth ride, it had 62k miles when I performed maintenance that included replacing the turbo pipe, but to be honest, I got the car with another issue!
Apparently, they messed up the programming of the TCU, thus it wasn't working very well, other than that I still believe in Hyundais.
I still have my 2007 Tucson! I am loving it, glad it served you great as well :D
Junk
@@issavibez394 If you say so...
Proper maintenance will help an owner minimize his expenses on his vehicle and hyundai is no exception...its a good car with proper care.
Proper maintenance will do NOTHING about these cars with the bad engines in them.
@@Imachowderhead My 2015 Sonata Sport is currently sitting at 153k miles with the original engine and runs as good as new. Change the oil often and they're as reliable as anything else
Not every model from a manufacturer will be bad. Are all Hyundais bad? No, of course not. However a lot of people have problems with them despite saying they "properly" care for them. Knowing both of these cases, it seems that Hyundai produces some vehicles that are good, and some lemons. It seems they have more lemons than "reliable" manufacturers like Honda and Toyota, their main competitors
My Kia and Hyundai have been as reliable as the Honda and Toyotas I have had...if not more so... maybe if Scotty wasn't so cheap and didnt buy cars that were 10 plus years old he could talk...
I agree.
Glad you had a good experience. Hundreds of thousands of people did not. Word to the wise, don't park in a garage. 😉
@@sundog1979 that reasoning applies to every make and model of vehicle from every manufacturer. There is no perfect car. Scotty praises Toyota and Honda but the truth is they have had tons of recalls and problems too I should start doing Toyota failures on you tube and I'd have just as much content for sure. It's all just what you focus on.
@@sundog1979 They have all been garaged park...not worried.
@HDHQDIRECT he has the right to be cheap & buy cars over 10 years old FYI
What scanning tool are you using the serial number and name? Please
The only issues I've had with my 14 year old elantra is the door handles stick.
I was given an old Hyundai Excel. It leaked so much oil we called it the Excel Valdez.
LOL!
Engrave random bolts to see if the trans has even been taken apart at least then you know it has been apart
Love your car reviews and advise Scotty!! Just curious - what state do you live in? Is it Connecticut?
I was looking to get a Hyundai veloster N, do you have any input on the vehicle
A friend of mine bought a new palisade suv and it later got recalled because the brake fluid inside wasnt correct lolol good afternoon scotty.
Really that’s it? Lol palisades are probably the only model with little to no issues it’s a very smooth v6 in that suv
The biggest issue with Hyundai and Kia which nobody is talking about is their poor build quality is region specific to the u.s.a compared to Korea and Chechnya Manufactured Hyundai/Kia's are of better built quality.
@lukemothug
Does seem to be an issue with US built models probably they are cutting costs by using lower bidders for parts vendors here.
Good Point
Weird, i know so many people with Hyundais with 200k-300k km who havnt had any serious issues. My dad had a 2004 accent that ran perfect until 2019.
My husband and I own a 2017 Hyundai Santa Fe AWD sport. We love it but unfortunately it’s burning oil. It is burning a quart of oil every 500 miles. This does fall under Hyundai’s warranty but we are being told they might not fix it. We are being told the dealership will summit a request for repair which is a complete engine replacement but Hyundai can refuse it. Do you have any advice on how to get Hyundai to honor their warranty on this problem? Any advice would be helpful because we feel powerless to make Hyundai make this right.
Wouldn't a comprehensive objective study or survey of all car brands tell us far better which brands are good and which are not?
I'm seeing Hyundai and Kia rising up near the top of these kinds of lists over the years.
But anecdotes are fun.
This guy, so how much does Toyota pay you ?
The problem with any study or survey on this kind of thing is it’s always going to be affected by selection bias for various reasons.
1. You’ll get more data about more popular vehicles. Best sellers provide the most data; poor sellers provide very little.
2. Online reviews, survey responses, etc. are always going to best represent extremes - people with an average and unremarkable experience are unlikely to respond.
3. Individuals’ personalities likely affect what cars they buy, and may also affect how likely they are to contribute data, which distorts it.
4. Driving and maintenance habits (general treatment and care for the vehicle) might correlate with the type of person who drives any given vehicle; there’s no good way to control for these factors and ensure all vehicles for which data was contributed were driven similarly over their life.
5. If you gather data about older vehicles, the data is subject to survivorship bias; the individual units with major problems are already off the road and not around to provide data.
It’s hard to get a good objective measure of this kind of thing without a central body purchasing a large number of each vehicle new (for an adequate sample size), and running a long-term study on their reliability, which would obviously be absurdly expensive and likely subject to its own biases in its design.
But the inherent problem, regardless, is there is no real way to make a study/survey of car brands “objective.”
You mention anecdotes - but the thing is, all surveys are just solicitations to gather anecdotes.
I got a 2017 Azera yesterday. I came to this video looking to see what I got into. The used car dealership I bought from offers warranties on the vehicles they sell. I was specifically told that Hyundais have a lower cost for their warranty. Someone once imparted on me the idea that nothing contains more statistical data than an insurance actuary table.
I also would hesitate to lump independent dealers together with the brand they sell. Enough Hyundais are sold in my town that we have a model named after us. The same person owns dealerships for several other brands. He seems to have no problem keeping Hyundai and Kia as 2 out of 10 of his brands. I think Scotty just found a sleazebag dealership.
I'm trying to stay objective and not be distracted by all the bells and whistles but I do like what I have so far.
Afternoon Scotty!
afternoon!
Have a 2016 Ram Rebel. At 40k miles the trans began leaking. Dealership attempted to change every seal they could and it still leaked. They then "ordered" and replaced the transmission with a "brand new" one. At 65k miles now I notice an very loud audible whining noise only when the transmission warms up. The transmission also gets extremely hot driving on the freeway. It gets close to 300 F. I reviewed my carfax and it says transmission serviced but doesnt say replaced.
Bought a 2013 Elantra new, 120k miles on it now
These are the problems I have encountered:
*replaced the starter
*replaced the crank shaft position sensor
*had to repaint hood and roof. Original paint seemed to be poorly primed causing it to flake off in large chunks
I got a 2013 Elantra with 112k miles, just had to replace the crankshaft position sensor!
I have a 2016 Kia Optima with that same engine and transmission. 70,000 miles. The only issues I’ve had were 2 window regulators going out and the oil pressure switch needing to get replaced. Other than that, it’s been running pretty solid and I still love the car.
2016 Kia Optima with 125,000 miles. I’ve never replaced a single part on the vehicle, and it is as good as I first got it. I’m keeping it until it fully dies on me.
luv it 50 mo k see wat u say
2003 Chevy Avalanche, ownership from 80K-160K and 2002 Honda Accord, ownership from 185K-226K. I’ve only had to change the brakes, fluids and minor things on these vehicles
Almost died not once but 3 times with the DCT issues with the 2016 Tucson transmission. Class action suit allowed me to dump it and get reimbursed for losses.
Damn man. Freaking crazy. Drive something else
Same with my friends 2012 Ford Focus with the automatic transmission.
Scotty what do you think about the all new Hyundai Elantra 2022 SEL ?
I have seen too many cases of Hyundai’s & Kia’s with multiple brake lights out. In some cases where all three brake lights are out. What’s up with their terrible lighting or wiring?