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  • čas přidán 12. 08. 2024

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  • @Silvershire
    @Silvershire Před rokem +3143

    Fun fact: the opening for the first Medal of Honor says you must "rise above and beyond the call of duty"

    • @shinyagumon7015
      @shinyagumon7015 Před rokem +365

      If they ever revive the series that should be their tag line.

    • @RevanAlaire
      @RevanAlaire Před rokem +180

      Ironic as they tried to do that and failed.

    • @Gremlin23
      @Gremlin23 Před rokem +238

      That would be because you win a medal of honour for 'rising above and beyond the call of duty'.

    • @LuoSon312_G8
      @LuoSon312_G8 Před rokem +79

      @@RevanAlaire only for the era of modern warfare, their golden era was the world wars

    • @kman9884
      @kman9884 Před rokem +106

      @@RevanAlaire EA killed MoH because it was a direct competitor to Battlefield

  • @rhysblaney3121
    @rhysblaney3121 Před rokem +169

    "I'm not Angry Birds, I'm just Disappointed-Birds" is a line that will haunt me until the day I die in a scaffolding-based accident

  • @liamhollands344
    @liamhollands344 Před rokem +489

    I never thought I'd be in an era where Medal of Honor was considered to be forgotten. And then I have to remind myself how long it's been since it's been relevant.

    • @TuHolmes
      @TuHolmes Před rokem +10

      Irrelevant. Perhaps. There was a VR game 2 years ago though.

    • @benjamincady5597
      @benjamincady5597 Před rokem +11

      We played so much MOHAA back in my freshman year of college. You probably couldn't get away with making your dorm into a custom level these days like we did.

    • @MrTaktic121
      @MrTaktic121 Před rokem +10

      Medal of honour and also conflict desert storm, I had more enjoyment out of them than cod .

    • @KuueenKumi
      @KuueenKumi Před rokem +1

      Makes me feel old. I wasn't even a big fan, just loved watching my dad play...20 ish years ago. Thanks to watching him play MoH:AA, I got interested in games. Really good memories

    • @gimpyrules6714
      @gimpyrules6714 Před rokem +1

      @Taktic121🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿 desert storm was awesome
      I don't why warfighter did so bad though, the multi-player was pretty fun in my opinion

  • @The_Kentuckian
    @The_Kentuckian Před rokem +469

    As someone who grew up with Medal of Honor games, I will never forget them.

    • @dtdimeflicks6708
      @dtdimeflicks6708 Před rokem +5

      The two original are my favorite FPS games of all time.

    • @peyton6466
      @peyton6466 Před rokem +2

      Jesus Christ died on the CROSS FOR YOUR SINS REPENT OF YOUR SINS AND PRAY TO GOD FOR FORGIVENESS GOD AND JESUS CHRIST LOVE YOU NEVER FORGET THIS❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤

    • @The_Daily_Tomato
      @The_Daily_Tomato Před rokem +2

      The theme song is still in my head and i haven't heard it in years.

    • @dtdimeflicks6708
      @dtdimeflicks6708 Před rokem +4

      @@peyton6466 🙄

    • @dtdimeflicks6708
      @dtdimeflicks6708 Před rokem +2

      @@The_Daily_Tomato the entire score is on youtube. Great music.

  • @NoMoreCrumbs
    @NoMoreCrumbs Před rokem +1494

    Rest in peace, Crush the Castle. You and all your flash game brethren from Kongregate, Armor Games, and all other hosting sites are badly missed

    • @ABadassDragon
      @ABadassDragon Před rokem +140

      Those games were saviours of all kids during IT class

    • @waelisc
      @waelisc Před rokem +62

      I remember spending hours on Nitrome and Miniclip, in particular

    • @nicholasfarrell5981
      @nicholasfarrell5981 Před rokem +20

      Anyone else use 2flashgames way back when?

    • @simasimson5798
      @simasimson5798 Před rokem +25

      @@ABadassDragon Gun Mayhem was the shit back in high school. Four guys playing on one shitty keyboard that freezes when you press 3 keys at once. Ah, the good old days...

    • @nemo.refert
      @nemo.refert Před rokem +15

      This is as good of an opportunity as it can be to remember everyone that the entire Submachine series (including the spin offs, except SMU iirc) is going to be released on Steam as soon as Skutnik thinks it's good enough to be released, which, knowing him, is probably gonna take another decade or so

  • @aeloswindrunner
    @aeloswindrunner Před rokem +209

    I have a vague memory of Jane doing the "I'm not angry birds, I'm disappointed birds" but I might be just losing my mind. I definitely got a sense of deja vu

    • @Aliuro
      @Aliuro Před rokem +25

      You're right, there is a video where they use this joke. However, I don't remember which one it is)

    • @Moomoomoomoon
      @Moomoomoomoon Před rokem +8

      Rip off comment?

    • @Moomoomoomoon
      @Moomoomoomoon Před rokem +40

      Are we saying this is a rip
      off comment to a video about rip
      off games?

    • @Aliuro
      @Aliuro Před rokem +4

      @@Moomoomoomoon nah, more like reusing a joke)

    • @thatoneswordguy
      @thatoneswordguy Před rokem +8

      yeah, I've noted a time where the script of an entry for two videos was nearly word for word

  • @rickimaru915
    @rickimaru915 Před rokem +194

    I still have the first two Medal of Honor games on the original PlayStation (MoH and MoH: Underground). I like how they both had you running espionage missions behind enemy lines, rather than essentially fighting a war by yourself on the frontlines like most war shooters now

    • @lavrentivs9891
      @lavrentivs9891 Před rokem +1

      Technical limitations of the time. You couldn't have more than a dozen characters on the screen at the same time, so easier to get away with small covert missions than full on battles.

    • @roboticd
      @roboticd Před rokem +11

      I always preferred MoH: Pro Skater over MoH: Underground...

    • @bustinarant
      @bustinarant Před rokem

      ​@@roboticdBut only one had Darth Maul doing kickflips

    • @mattgrigsby8907
      @mattgrigsby8907 Před rokem +2

      ​@@roboticd😂😂😂😂 don't you enjoy skating around as Shrek with a M1 Garand?

    • @obiwanfisher537
      @obiwanfisher537 Před rokem +1

      Frontlines kept that idea tho. As you essentially were behind enemy lines as a spy and saboteur, too.

  • @Stratelier
    @Stratelier Před rokem +74

    In _Smash Bros._ defense, you forgot its _other_ central mechanic: no health bars, all points are scored via "ring out".

    • @Pearloryx
      @Pearloryx Před rokem +4

      The game is mostly based on Kirby game mechanic considering the game dev behind it

    • @brotbrotsen1100
      @brotbrotsen1100 Před 10 měsíci +2

      ​@@PearloryxI don't see the connection here. The only thing they have in common when it comes to mechanics is the 2d perspective.

  • @bjchit
    @bjchit Před rokem +338

    Fun fact about the OG Resident Evil: it *was* going to be a remake of Sweet Home, until said license losing, and even then, in the Japanese TV ads, they still used the battle music from Sweet Home overlain footage of Resident Evil.

    • @PrincessOzaline
      @PrincessOzaline Před rokem +19

      That is interesting because people have commented that the English name Resident Evil kind of makes those games that don't focus on a residence weird, but it probably seemed like a safe bet to take given the inspiration.

    • @snorpenbass4196
      @snorpenbass4196 Před rokem +27

      Of course, RE also borrowed heavily from Alone In The Dark (the original).

    • @MorinehtarTheBlue
      @MorinehtarTheBlue Před rokem +16

      That's the thing about all of that. It's disingenuous to call something that's a spiritual successor a ripoff.
      In Sweet Home's case it wasn't so much an adaption as one of those tie-in promotional deals. There stories clearly diverge as well.
      Same with Wolfenstein and Doom which continued the trend with Quake.
      Or Wasteland becoming Fall Out. Though I'm expecting that to arrive when the commenters list gets made anyway.

    • @juanausensi499
      @juanausensi499 Před rokem +8

      @@snorpenbass4196 I was convinced they were about to talk about Alone in the Dark as the precursor of Resident Evil.

    • @seancdaug
      @seancdaug Před rokem +6

      @@juanausensi499 Honestly, I think the original Resident Evil is much more akin to Alone in the Dark than it is to Sweet Home. As much as Resident Evil borrows its themes from Sweet Home, the two games really don't play much alike. But the whole slow-paced, third-person, fixed-camera-with-tank-controls thing that defined Resident Evil? Alone in the Dark did it first.

  • @tept6007
    @tept6007 Před rokem +426

    God, you've unlocked my coveted Crush the Castle memories! The progression in that game was wild, eventually unlocking fire, lightning, and acid to counter differing materials for the castles. I also feel like I remember custom community levels too. It was actually a blast for my middle school brain

    • @ABadassDragon
      @ABadassDragon Před rokem +9

      Same, that game was sick

    • @Nicholasryan17
      @Nicholasryan17 Před rokem +10

      One of the developers also made The Last Stand series

    • @tnuoccaekafsi9808
      @tnuoccaekafsi9808 Před rokem +6

      I just remember trying to one hit every castle for the coveted boulder

    • @saintposeidongaming921
      @saintposeidongaming921 Před rokem +7

      Theres a mobile port for ios and android of the originals!

    • @adam-vm3zj
      @adam-vm3zj Před rokem +1

      It really cemented my love for physics-based shenanigans

  • @oriolgonzalez9328
    @oriolgonzalez9328 Před rokem +105

    I like how educational these list videos can be sometimes, I only knew a couple of the "originals"

    • @BratislavMetulski
      @BratislavMetulski Před rokem +2

      and still a lot of half knowledge

    • @Paper323
      @Paper323 Před 4 měsíci

      The originals they mention are well know in gaming circles and like half of their list I wouldn't even classify as rip-offs either.

  • @LordBaktor
    @LordBaktor Před rokem +51

    Outfoxies was my favorite arcade game for a long while but I had forgotten the name of it. Thank you so much for bringing this memory back to me.

    • @PO1PLE
      @PO1PLE Před rokem

      Wish they didn't lie though,played it, besides the fact you go around the stages, it is nothing like smash brothers

  • @Drake5607
    @Drake5607 Před rokem +66

    I would have thought that Resident Evil precursor would have been Alone In The Dark with its tank control in 3D, horror atmosphere, object dropping, and its "find the weird key" kind of puzzles...

    • @alexpage4355
      @alexpage4355 Před rokem +26

      Yeah, when they suggested that Resident Evil was "the first time [western audiences] had experienced anything like it," Alone in the Dark immediately popped into mind. Resident Evil may have popularized the genre but it wasn't the first, not even in the west.

    • @Nezumikniver
      @Nezumikniver Před rokem +6

      It's what I thought of. It also had some crazy game stopping item puzzles pretty early on.

    • @daltigoth3970
      @daltigoth3970 Před rokem +23

      Definitely agree to this. Additionally, calling it a rip-off of another game created by the same company that clearly looks to be more of a JRPG that simply has similar tone/themes is a bit of a stretch. Sweet Home fits more as a spiritual predecessor to Resident Evil than RE being a rip-off of it.

    • @TimEd.o7o7
      @TimEd.o7o7 Před rokem +9

      it was a "rip off" because the original Resident Evil was supposed to be a remake of Sweet Home. But licensing failed so they had to pivot away from it at the last second.

    • @daltigoth3970
      @daltigoth3970 Před rokem +7

      @@TimEd.o7o7 How does a company "rip off" their own creation? I'm really not interested in a debate here, but I am curious to know where that logic comes from.
      Its like saying one line of Nike shoes is a rip-off of another line of Nike shoes. No, they aren't rip-offs, they are just a different line of shoes made by the same company that have some similarities. Even if the second line of shoes were supposed to be the next iteration in the Nike Air Jordan line, renaming them to Nike Air doesn't make it a rip-off, its just a new product that had to be released under a different name for licensing reasons.
      By contrast, if Reebok released a line of shoes that looked a lot like Air Jordans and had some other NBA player's name attached to them, THAT would be a rip-off.

  • @allenfox7186
    @allenfox7186 Před rokem +225

    Loved Crush the Castle! Most of the hours I’ve played was the creative mode it had. Something angry birds didn’t have (to my knowledge)

    • @adeadphish7931
      @adeadphish7931 Před rokem +9

      Yoooo, same! Glad someone else remembers that gamr

    • @anoninunen
      @anoninunen Před rokem +10

      Once spent an afternoon trying to build a single castle that could protect against the "Three Giant Bombs" weapon. One of many 'Demolition' games I enjoyd to completion.

    • @Otterdisappointment
      @Otterdisappointment Před rokem +2

      Many flash sites had good content. 101Games is how I found Crush the Castle.

    • @Regolith86
      @Regolith86 Před rokem +8

      Crush the Castle was definitely the superior game.
      Also, I seem to remember it coming out earlier than 2009, like in 2007 or something. But maybe I'm misremembering. 🤔

  • @johnsharplin
    @johnsharplin Před rokem +117

    The Outfoxies unironically looks incredible

    • @invictors1
      @invictors1 Před rokem

      Expect more videos like this text me on telegram above to claim 🎁🎉

    • @peyton6466
      @peyton6466 Před rokem +4

      Jesus Christ died on the CROSS FOR YOUR SINS REPENT OF YOUR SINS AND PRAY TO GOD FOR FORGIVENESS GOD AND JESUS CHRIST LOVE YOU NEVER FORGET THIS❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤

    • @michaelchallis4129
      @michaelchallis4129 Před rokem +23

      Wait, Jesus is in The Outfoxies? Sold.

    • @SergeantDoorknob13
      @SergeantDoorknob13 Před rokem +5

      @@peyton6466 why do people make bots like you?

    • @powermelodicdragonrecords9385
      @powermelodicdragonrecords9385 Před rokem +1

      I think so too! I will definitely check it out on an emulator

  • @paulellington1505
    @paulellington1505 Před rokem +45

    Thank you Luke for the Medal of Honor to Call of Duty. No wonder why those games played exactly like each other. A lot of FPS share the same control scheme, but that was the first connection I found between the two

    • @sagasvensson8920
      @sagasvensson8920 Před rokem +2

      *Mike

    • @SILOPshuvambanerjee
      @SILOPshuvambanerjee Před rokem +2

      I realised just now

    • @Eonymia
      @Eonymia Před 9 měsíci +3

      IW were ex-MOH developers who wanted to make a more down to earth instead of "one man wins war" type of ww2 game, so they left to make CoD.

  • @ethanliddle9008
    @ethanliddle9008 Před rokem +137

    What I loved about Medal Of Honor was it tracked where your bullets landed on the enemy.
    So at the end of the stage, got a ton of headshots? It calls you a melon popper.

    • @BrianGlaze
      @BrianGlaze Před rokem +3

      That's pretty dope

    • @imchips-topicsofficialsdad5546
      @imchips-topicsofficialsdad5546 Před rokem +16

      Dont forget if you only aim for the enemies dome.. you get the title of HEAD WAITER.

    • @gryphonosiris2577
      @gryphonosiris2577 Před rokem +16

      Could also get one for headshots that was "Discount barber".
      Shoot them in the groin a lot and you get "Jewel Thief". I even got one once that was "Napoleon Blown-apart" :-D

    • @FelisImpurrator
      @FelisImpurrator Před rokem +19

      Atrocious puns are objectively the correct way to handle killstreaks and skillshots.

    • @gryphonosiris2577
      @gryphonosiris2577 Před rokem +9

      @@FelisImpurrator I admit that I nearly pissed myself laughing when I got the "Napoleon Blown-apart" marksmanship rating.

  • @zulubunsen9067
    @zulubunsen9067 Před rokem +70

    Even though I never played them, hearing Medal of Honor called "all but forgotten" makes me feel a bit old. To be fair, the series was already on that path when the last two titles released.

    • @chucklebutt4470
      @chucklebutt4470 Před rokem +8

      Lol same here! It feels like not that long ago when MoH and CoD were close competitors on the market.

    • @KasumiRINA
      @KasumiRINA Před rokem

      Last two? I remember dad playing expansions for Allied Assault then game kinda disappearing from radar since CoD appeared... there WERE more MoH games but never as popular. I even played through modern one, campaign was super short and kinda boring.

  • @Skapologist
    @Skapologist Před rokem +16

    Between Luke referencing doing “Danger Zone” at karaoke and Mike referencing doing “Don’t Stop Believing” at karaoke, I’m really wanting to see an OxBoxTra karaoke night stream.

  • @lonewolffang
    @lonewolffang Před rokem +14

    Other than the Outfoxies, I almost forgot about Joust. And also after Sweet Home, there was Alone in the Dark.

  • @alexbailes91
    @alexbailes91 Před rokem +83

    I'll never forget you, Medal of Honor ❤️
    Christmas 1999, I got a PS1 and MOH. It blew my 8 year old mind.

  • @boogulls9312
    @boogulls9312 Před rokem +44

    It makes me unreasonably happy to see people talking about Outfoxies. I used to play it in a local arcade and even owned an arcade board at one point. It's such a fun and unusual game.

    • @GimpyDingo
      @GimpyDingo Před rokem

      I worked at an arcade and never saw this in the wild. I found it on Mame and its such a great game. I have a mame cabinet now. I did get to play Primal Rage 2 and Tenth Degree. Tenth Degree one of the developers was there playing against people... and losing. Such a bad game. We kept pointing him to Tekken and all the flaws Tenth Degree had. Wonder why it never released.

  • @Superstino
    @Superstino Před rokem +52

    You can really tell this video was well-researched and well-written! Good job guys, probably one of my favorites you've made :)

    • @justarandombotipromise
      @justarandombotipromise Před 9 měsíci

      Except that resident evil was made by the same person that made sweet home soooo not a rip off. And to clarify not just capcom publishing but the director and creator is the same guy

    • @subscribersWithnovideoscrazy
      @subscribersWithnovideoscrazy Před 5 měsíci

      @@justarandombotipromisethank you someone knows

  • @comettamer
    @comettamer Před rokem +15

    This whole list is extremely educational. I've been a gamer for almost 3 decades and knew about perhaps 1 of the entries not being as original as it claimed, and that was Call of Duty.

    • @unkledoda420
      @unkledoda420 Před rokem +1

      Same here COD was the only one I'd heard of. I'm 41 and i have never even heard the term "flash game" let alone know what it is.

  • @SonicRooncoPrime
    @SonicRooncoPrime Před rokem +305

    Being told Angry Birds and Medal of Honor are old and forgotten has scarred me for life.

    • @ringosis
      @ringosis Před rokem +20

      The newest Medal Of Honour was from December 2020...

    • @seracila432
      @seracila432 Před rokem +4

      Same, especially Angry Birds..

    • @immanuel6827
      @immanuel6827 Před rokem

      🤣🤣🤣 take heart me dear❤️🫂

    • @Cancer_Cam
      @Cancer_Cam Před rokem +27

      @@ringosis it’s a VR game, one I’d never even heard of. The last real Medal of Honor game was in 2012

    • @Daktangle
      @Daktangle Před rokem +7

      @@ringosis Which is a VR game with "mixed to average" reviews.

  • @markschutz1012
    @markschutz1012 Před rokem +25

    Before Wild Wheels, back in the 1980s, there was Ballblazer... a game where you pushed an energy ball towards a goal using a hover powered vehicle.

  • @fungi5350
    @fungi5350 Před rokem +16

    Video idea: 7 times you turned the table on NPCs. I was replaying Assassins Creed 2 recently and had a bit of fun with Leonardo and Maria Auditore during the early game delivery mission where you deliver paintings for your mother. You’ll walk with the box of paintings at the weird pace usually reserved for the NPCs while your two accompanying NPCs have to awkwardly do their best to keep pace without getting ahead.

  • @riderofangmar4667
    @riderofangmar4667 Před rokem +10

    I loved crush the castle growing up, it’s sequal’s weapon variations and custom maps were amazing.

  • @PLAYER_42069
    @PLAYER_42069 Před rokem +51

    It's amazing how ahead of their time some of these ideas were given the limited technology e.g. Utopia, 1982.The video game industry isn't that old (40-some-odd years), and we've come so far in that "short" amount of time. People love to be dramatic and claim, video games have stagnated and there are no good ideas, but this video proves there are always good ideas out there. It's just sometimes the execution prevents it from really taking hold and/or appealing to a broader audience.

    • @MorinehtarTheBlue
      @MorinehtarTheBlue Před rokem +15

      It's not stagnation that is most effecting the video game industry now a days. It's the rampant monetization strategies companies use while frequently extracting the actual fun out of the product.

  • @23Scadu
    @23Scadu Před rokem +147

    Jane's colour coordination in this video is absolutely top notch.

    • @BenPotts
      @BenPotts Před rokem +4

      she looks amazing

    • @MSte21
      @MSte21 Před rokem +18

      Jane is genuinely a fashion icon.

    • @DoNkEy_LoVE
      @DoNkEy_LoVE Před rokem +5

      Her hair looks great also

    • @brianc3761
      @brianc3761 Před rokem +1

      I also enjoy sarcasm

    • @anon_y_mousse
      @anon_y_mousse Před rokem +16

      @@brianc3761 Who's being sarcastic? She looks great, as always.

  • @Omnifarious0
    @Omnifarious0 Před rokem +7

    4:19 + Arguably that Atari ST game isn't the first. Prior to that was a Lucasfilm Games game for 8-bit computers called Ballblazer. Though it was so primitive that most of the features weren't there.
    And I'm impressed you recognized midi maze as a predecessor to Doom multiplayer. 🙂

  • @Barracuda539
    @Barracuda539 Před rokem +7

    I honestly thought the game you were going to say resident evil ripped off would be Alone in the Dark, both take place in a creepy mansion, both emphasis avoiding enemies over killing everything, and both have graphics and voice acting that leave a bit to be desired

  • @Michael_Lindell
    @Michael_Lindell Před rokem +22

    I once saw a competition about dying.
    It was a RIP-off.

    • @samtepal3892
      @samtepal3892 Před rokem +1

      Take my like and get out of here.

    • @kip258
      @kip258 Před rokem +1

      I'm all out of likes so you'll just have to leave without taking mine

    • @katherinevasper1791
      @katherinevasper1791 Před rokem +1

      Boo... boo.

    • @Chonkems
      @Chonkems Před rokem +3

      What do you call a cheap circumcision?
      A rip off.
      :) I'll see myself out.

    • @davidburnett5049
      @davidburnett5049 Před rokem +1

      For shame

  • @Zenlore6499
    @Zenlore6499 Před rokem +65

    Oh my god, I LOVED Crush the Castle! I played it all the time!

  • @nickburkhardt3229
    @nickburkhardt3229 Před rokem +8

    Andy describing angry birds is the best part of my week

  • @dallydaydream
    @dallydaydream Před rokem +11

    Though I had never heard of it before, scrolling through the comments and seeing all the love and nostalgia for Crush the Castle warms my heart. Seems like you tapped into a bunch of childhood memories there!

  • @MacGuges
    @MacGuges Před rokem +10

    Doom was pretty amazing when it came out, and I can still fondly remember many deathmatches I'd played on our campus network. But it wasn't the first online multiplayer shooter that I played in uni, because I had also played Netrek. In that game you piloted a starship, shooting your phasers and photon torpedos at the ships of opposing sides. Every one would be piloted by a human player (though there were some bots available for Netrek who could give you a run for your money in a one on one melee, they weren't considered competent or interesting enough in their strategic choices). Each player joining a game of Netrek would choose a starship class, such as scout, battleship, bomber or starbase. Scouts were nimble, battleships balanced mobility and weapon systems, and each team could field a single starbase which brought devastating attacks.
    Since Netrek was a non-commercial game only available for X Windows, it wasn't a pretty game. Starships were rendered as top down wireframes, a la Asteroid, so imagine a monochromatic bullethell shooter. The closest analogue today to Netrek's class-based chaos would be Team Fortress.

    • @Erikcleric
      @Erikcleric Před rokem

      Doom not only was amazing, it never stopped being that. Oh man I played so many matches in dif game modes in the ZDoom/GZDoom sourceport using the Doomseeker server browser.

  • @glow2hi
    @glow2hi Před rokem +13

    The last metal of honor was actually medal of honor above and beyond in 2020 for vr. it was fittingly made by respawn

  • @Daniel__Nobre
    @Daniel__Nobre Před rokem +7

    Great video, although I feel that when it’s basically the same developers doing the following games you can really say it’s a ripoff.. in the case of Resident Evil I feel Alone in the Dark was actually the one the “iterated” upon.

  • @sylvancochran1572
    @sylvancochran1572 Před rokem +2

    In crush the castle 2 players pack, if you beat survival mode you get an infected chicken to use as a projectile. The game even calls it an "enraged poltry".

  • @alastaircollins1145
    @alastaircollins1145 Před rokem +16

    "In search of hidden frescos": Truly, an everyman motivation.
    Also, between this video and the last Outside Xtra, I don't know why the eyeshadow has suddenly become more vibrant, but I definitely dig it.

  • @CBrown
    @CBrown Před rokem +16

    I've concluded that most successful ideas aren't original but that with the benefit of hindsight they were able to improve upon existing ideas in such a way that said success becomes possible.

    • @ZaoJin
      @ZaoJin Před rokem +1

      Yep. That’s art

    • @lucithedemonminer
      @lucithedemonminer Před rokem

      "In the future, everyone will be famous for 15 minutes" - Andy Warhol
      I assume this is part of what he was referring to. And think, he couldnt even fathom Tiktok.
      *hides from scary ass future under MLP blankie*

  • @KoolKy04schannel
    @KoolKy04schannel Před rokem +9

    WOW! i haven't watched this channel in years, used to love it when i was younger. can't believe they've kept the same format, so nostalgic☺️

  • @LordJazzly
    @LordJazzly Před rokem +3

    Another issue that Crush the Castle had was that it wasn't Gemcraft or Creeper World, which were also flash games that you could play in your browser for free on many of the same sites that hosted it.

  • @leafandryly
    @leafandryly Před rokem +7

    Diggs at both call of duty and mountain dew in one video. Awesome. Thank you Mike, this made me smile

  • @abeingofpureenergy
    @abeingofpureenergy Před rokem +24

    Oh wow, I never thought I'd hear about Crush the Castle again 😂
    That takes me back

  • @philtkaswahl2124
    @philtkaswahl2124 Před rokem +4

    Man, I remember _Medal of Honor: Allied Assault_ as the first "serious business" WWII FPS I really got into, and _Pacific Assault_ was in a net cafe me and some college buddies visited between classes. We had a lot of fun murdering each other in multiplayer.

  • @JustinLeeper
    @JustinLeeper Před rokem +22

    2 games down, and I’m blown away!
    I was a game journalist for 8 years, have spend almost that much time as a game designer, and I never heard about those 2 originators!
    You all are awesome!! ❤

  • @unfortunatelyevil1767
    @unfortunatelyevil1767 Před rokem +65

    Angry Birds going hyper popular was the final nail in me believing the myth of a meritocracy. A game that had existed in many iterations before, and just happened to be the one that explodes in popularity.
    Later, I learn of pop star research where given a group of somewhat equal singers, test groups will always push one into a super star, but each test group had a different star get pushed, absolutely no correlation between the star and their popularity.

    • @sethwick8348
      @sethwick8348 Před rokem +21

      I don't think that's a very good example of lack of meritocracy. Crush the Castle used the same concept first, and I think did it better, but it's not like Angry Birds brought nothing to the table. Its presentation and, more crucially, touch controls and availability on phone platforms, made a huge difference. Crush the Castle was fun but not terribly compelling long term compared to other games you could be playing on a computer, even a cheap PC allowed you to play much more in depth games. But phones were the perfect platform for such a simple, quick session game. Crush the Castle just wasn't on the right platform to explode. Can't blame people for playing Angry Birds on their phone instead of a flash game that wasn't actually playable on their phone.

    • @unfortunatelyevil1767
      @unfortunatelyevil1767 Před rokem +10

      @Sethwick A) As mentioned, just the final nail, not peak example~ And similar games existed well before Crush the Castle.
      B) You mention it just being on the right platform at the right time, which is exactly what I am talking about~ Has practically nothing to do with the merit of the game, and everything to do with external factors!

    • @Barrillel
      @Barrillel Před rokem +5

      ​@@unfortunatelyevil1767 You appear to define merit based heavily on being first with the concept or idea versus the details for executing on that concept or idea. Am I correct in this assumption?
      If so:
      Should art design and UX not also be considered for merit? How about implementing it for mobile platforms versus as another PC game? Should having good advertising and marketing be considered for merit?
      I'm genuinely interested in how you rate the merit of those above factors.

    • @MetallicD3ath
      @MetallicD3ath Před rokem +6

      I know I wasn't the one asked, but personally, I don't think advertising and marketing should generally count as a factor for merit. Rather, these factors are counterproductive to the idea of merit/a meritocracy. Because they aren't involved in the execution of the actual idea/product, but instead play to the idea of "he who has more power (money) can more easily maintain that power."
      Granted, even if this was a world where everything ran on merit alone, those resources would make it much easier to design something more meritable, but I think that's (A) outside of our control and (B) getting too far away from the discussion.
      Everything else you mentioned though, totally. Platform I feel like *should* be lesser, but it's still true that choosing an optimal platform is still a part of design, and thus merit. Ideally the highest merit weighting should go to (in this example) gameplay elements (and possibly story or graphics/art design, where relevant - mostly depends on the focus)
      but things like user interface (taken separately from gameplay or art design, e.g. "how intrusive is this button prompt") and platform design aren't completely irrelevant, along with other things you didn't mention (how easy is this game to learn, how is the voice acting or *is* there voice acting, etc.)

    • @unfortunatelyevil1767
      @unfortunatelyevil1767 Před rokem +2

      @MetallicD3ath Broadly I agree. As for Platform choice mattering, someone on the 90's *couldn't* choose to develop on the iPhone.
      And for UI, there were thousands of games on the iPhone that had UI as clean and friendly as Angry Birds. Which is why I mentioned the study on equivalently talented pop stars. Run the world again, and we'd have a different game go viral rather than Angry Birds. However, once something goes viral, it becomes *very* hard to compare it with others without the bias, and without comparing it to obviously lower quality ones. If we could have said (before they were loaded to the store) that Angry Birds were a billion times better than the other games, then the stock market wouldn't be a thing~

  • @Caedus9001
    @Caedus9001 Před rokem +11

    I think they re-did MIDI maze(or made a version for) on the Original Gameboy. I think it was called FaceBall. Played that one and did one of them 'point and squint' looks when you showed gameplay for MIDI

    • @gwishart
      @gwishart Před rokem +5

      They did. The GameBoy version was called FaceBall 2000, and was one of the few games that supported the GameBoy 4-Player adapter. There was a SNES version too, but that only supported two-player split screen.

    • @BlandoGaming
      @BlandoGaming Před rokem +3

      Haha, I just commented about this as well. Wasn't sure anyone else ever played Faceball. Never knew about Midi Maze though so I was kinda shocked.

  • @realitynowassigned
    @realitynowassigned Před rokem +2

    "you don't often associate music with murder"
    Mike's never heard a rap song

  • @travismurtland3257
    @travismurtland3257 Před rokem +2

    Crush the Castle was my absolute jam, and I think the massive "ARMOR GAMES" logo made it easy to find

    • @invictors1
      @invictors1 Před rokem

      Congratulations, got something special for you text me on telegram above to claim 🎉🎁🎉🎁

  • @nyperold7530
    @nyperold7530 Před rokem +13

    Ooh, that burn was... Flamin' Hot!
    I didn't think I'd heard of MIDI Maze, but it looked more familiar when I saw gameplay. While I'd never played it myself or even seen it in action before, I knew I'd seen it in the pages of Nintendo Power. And sure enough, when they converted it for the Game Boy, they called it Faceball 2000.

    • @jasonsorin1021
      @jasonsorin1021 Před rokem

      just get the pacman license and say it's what he's doing with all those dots.

    • @MorinehtarTheBlue
      @MorinehtarTheBlue Před rokem

      They converted it for several Nintendo consoles under that or similar names.
      Obviously Midi references weren't going to make sense in those cases.

  • @azuredragoon2054
    @azuredragoon2054 Před rokem +6

    Solomon's Boneyard would be a prequel version of Vamprie Survivors.
    Solomon's Boneyard was an Apple-only app that featured you surviving as long as you could against unending hordes of the undead. You started with one attack, got upgrades for it which were given by RNG, and you could gain other skills and attacks over time to give you even more power. What it did most differently from Vampire Survivors, though, was have you manage resources and controlled as a twin-stick shooter.

  • @Endgame_01
    @Endgame_01 Před rokem +2

    I remember the Medal of Honor series well. The main playable character was a soldier named Jimmy Paterson. The funniest thing about that is that in later levels the nazis recognize you and yell "Its Jimmy Paterson!" before you murder them. Great stuff

    • @KasumiRINA
      @KasumiRINA Před rokem

      Except in Underground, you play as his boss, Manon Batiste. A La Resistance girl turned OSS officer.

  • @Rangaisia
    @Rangaisia Před rokem +9

    Capcom's 1985 arcade hit Commando is generally credited with popularizing the overhead run n' gun genre, but it owed a lot to Taito's 1982 arcade game Front Line, including its military theme and grenades as secondary weapons. Front Line also had tanks the player could enter and exit, so it preceded Ikari Warriors as well.

  • @jclarinet6347
    @jclarinet6347 Před rokem +15

    I LOVE Crush the Castle and still play it frequently. Such a classic. ❤

  • @SuspiciousKoala
    @SuspiciousKoala Před rokem +23

    Medal of Honor wasn't really obscure though, lol

  • @connorburton1009
    @connorburton1009 Před rokem +1

    I would fight you for disparaging mountain dew like that, but I don't have the energy for that on account of drinking so much mountain dew.

  • @OriginalPiMan
    @OriginalPiMan Před rokem +3

    I was expecting Minecraft in this list. I can't imagine that Infiniminer was any more known than Crush the Castle.

  • @ringosis
    @ringosis Před rokem +5

    Warfighter is not the most recent Medal of Honour game. Medal Of Honour Above and Beyond came out less than 2 years ago.

  • @saffral
    @saffral Před rokem +3

    Project Firestart is a 1989 survival-horror game for the Commodore 64. It was just a case of parallel development with Sweet Home, similar to the Apple II's stealth game Castle Wolfenstein and the NES' Metal Gear.
    For another example of this type of "rip-off", The Elder Scrolls was heavily based on Ultima Underworld, a spin-off of the Ultima series, which was notable for having full 3D exploration in a first-person RPG. The Elder Scrolls I: Arena traded in a lot of interactivity from Ultima Underworld in exchange for a massive open world, something the series has carried on to this day. Ultima Underworld also inspired Arx Fatalis and System Shock, being a progenitor of the immersive sim genre.
    Oh, and another fun one is that Wizardry was a big inspiration on early JRPGs.

    • @MarkDeSade100
      @MarkDeSade100 Před rokem

      Ultima Underworld and the sequel Underworld 2 are amazing games that should never be forgotten!

  • @MetallicD3ath
    @MetallicD3ath Před rokem +4

    Okay but the idea of making Utopia a multiplayer create-an-island rts-like where you could invade your opponent's island, but ultimately the goal is to outperform your opponent, sounds like a really neat idea.
    Hang on a second, I think this describes the Civilization games more than the SimCity games!

  • @taelim6599
    @taelim6599 Před rokem +2

    Minecraft is secretly a ripoff of a far less known game called Infiniminer that released two years earlier and was shut down less than a month after its release. Infiniminer was intended to be a game where two teams race to mine as many ores as possible and deliver them to the drop off point, but people instead preferred to build structures, which minecraft capitalized on.

  • @sarahvest3676
    @sarahvest3676 Před rokem +40

    I LOVED Crush the Castle 🏰 😍 I used to play it during during free study late in high school. 😅 Guess that's why I never really got into angry birds... 🤔 Also another flash game I played that maybe a rip off is Happy Wheels (very reminiscent if Clop and similar games) and Cubefield, which is very like any continuous fly into oblivion until you hit something and die game... and yes that's the correct genre name lol

  • @bjchit
    @bjchit Před rokem +5

    How dare you call Medal of Honor forgotten! It is one of the greatest WW2 FPS of all time! Why must you make me feel old! 😭

  • @ultimatetybreaker3467
    @ultimatetybreaker3467 Před rokem +3

    Wow, this video brought back all the memories of playing Crush the Castle on the school computers when the day ended, I really miss those flash games.

  • @philipmarsh8298
    @philipmarsh8298 Před rokem +2

    I actually played Utopia when i was a child and had forgotten about it until this video. Thanks for bringing back my repressed traumatic memories.

  • @sergentboucherie
    @sergentboucherie Před rokem +3

    Wolfenstein 3D was not the first Wolfenstein game, it was Castle Wolfenstein from 1981, it was not a shooter but more of an infiltration game
    The original Prince of Persia game was released in 1989

  • @RediRoc
    @RediRoc Před rokem +29

    The Outfoxies would definitely be a big hit on YT/Twitch if it were released today.

  • @TumoFiji
    @TumoFiji Před rokem +1

    One other thing to note about Rocket League rip-off - There were several games that had a similar concept as a minigame unlockable within the main game. 2 games that did this off the top of my head are MX2002 feat. Ricky Carmichael on PS2 and Monster 4x4 World Circuit on Wii.

  • @joylessgaming
    @joylessgaming Před rokem +1

    I'm compelled to point out that the West did see something almost mechanically identical to Resident Evil before: Alone in the Dark (1992). Fixed camera angles, trapped in a mansion beset by supernatural horrors (and horrible graphics), male and female playable characters. Was only on PC though, so didn't have the same potential market as Resi did.
    I also remember a tabletop game from when I was a kid, where you made a wall out of plastic bricks to protect a keep and would take turns using rubber-band powered catapults and ballistae to attack your enemy's defences. I forget what it was called though.

    • @smolbb713
      @smolbb713 Před rokem +1

      I thought Alone in the Dark was the basis for Resident Evil

  • @jaded718
    @jaded718 Před rokem +5

    Resident Evil was the second time I'd experienced a survival horror like that; I'd played Alone in the Dark years prior

  • @kiri101
    @kiri101 Před rokem +34

    The original Medal of Honor game was amazing at the time it came out, I spent countless hours exploring it.

    • @petesmart1983
      @petesmart1983 Před rokem

      It was rubbish compared to cod mainly cause cod was a pc game and PS2 couldn't compete

    • @flamingson
      @flamingson Před rokem +8

      @@petesmart1983 it really wasn't and without MoH CoD wouldn't exist...

    • @ringosis
      @ringosis Před rokem +2

      @@petesmart1983Yeah, but did COD let you ping the hat off of every Nazi you saw? No? Shit game.

    • @rubz1390
      @rubz1390 Před rokem +11

      @@petesmart1983 the origional MoH came out on PS1 in 1999

    • @lo-keyloki9986
      @lo-keyloki9986 Před rokem +4

      I loved Frontline. I played it so many times that I would just pop the machine gunners in the bunkers at the beginning as soon as I hit the beach. I can't remember if they respawned endlessly though.

  • @Rime_in_Retrograde
    @Rime_in_Retrograde Před rokem +1

    "There are terrible demons... Ouch." - I don't know why that line made me laugh as hard as it did, but LMAO

  • @GeoffreyHellington
    @GeoffreyHellington Před rokem +1

    Allied Assault is what got me into FPS games. The beach landings, the level design, the extend3ed theatre of war, the M1 Garand sound... Ahhhh, good times

  • @frodobaggins7710
    @frodobaggins7710 Před rokem +3

    Luckily Crush the Castle eventually did get a port to phones, and I spent quite a bit of time playing around with the late game weapons

  • @HostileTakeover2
    @HostileTakeover2 Před rokem +7

    I played hours and hours of Crush the Castle, its sequel, and the fan levels. Also loved me some MoH!

  • @lifta1809
    @lifta1809 Před rokem +2

    Medal of Honour frontline was definitely was up there as one of my most cherished childhood games, what a classic

  • @bwagner23
    @bwagner23 Před rokem +2

    Sweet Home, the movie, has never gotten a western release either, which is a shame. It's an interesting haunted house movie with really great effects (by the same guy who did the effects for The Exorcist)!

  • @Zoso14892
    @Zoso14892 Před rokem +3

    Does anybody remember Castle Clout? At this point I almost think I imagined it, but I'm sure that's an even older version of Crush the Castle.
    Some of these were unknown to me, but some just made me feel ancient.

    • @hugofontes5708
      @hugofontes5708 Před rokem +2

      I do recall an even older flash game similar to Crush the Castle, in fact I think I might have liked it better

  • @mirroredchaos
    @mirroredchaos Před rokem +3

    as long as a game takes a concept and adds its own properties to it and not make a direct copy of it like Wolfenstein, I like it when we get different varieties of game ideas.

  • @Dumgui
    @Dumgui Před rokem +2

    I think I would attribute the origin of what we know as survival horror games now, would be "alone in the dark". I don't think "sweet home" was envisioning anything anywhere close to what we see as a survival horror game, but alone in the dark has it dead to rights in 1992.

  • @FaisalAli-wr8no
    @FaisalAli-wr8no Před rokem +2

    Hey, just wanted to say Mike's message at the end convinced me to like/subscribe, which I almost never do for anything. Watched loads of your videos and always enjoy it, and heard his message and thought "If it really helps the crew, then why not?"

  • @LegendStormcrow
    @LegendStormcrow Před rokem +4

    Anyone else glad to hear them mention Crush the Castle? I'm pretty sure it's older than they claim though. Like maybe from 06'

    • @benjamincady5597
      @benjamincady5597 Před rokem +1

      I could have sworn it had been around a few years before Angry Birds as well, an archived version of the production notes do indeed say April 2009. All I know is that when Angry Birds first came out it was immediately obvious it was a blatant rip off.

    • @LegendStormcrow
      @LegendStormcrow Před rokem

      @@benjamincady5597 I KNOW I played something of that style before. In 08 and the 2nd half of 07' I had no internet.

  • @MrNucleosome
    @MrNucleosome Před rokem +4

    I love this video format, very well researched and very interesting. Please do more

  • @ninjapants7688
    @ninjapants7688 Před rokem +1

    Medal of Honor Allied Assault wasn't "A version" of Frontline. It pre-dated it by almost a year and both games are completely different.

  • @wholelottamemesyes9426
    @wholelottamemesyes9426 Před rokem +16

    Maybe the real ripoff were the games we played along the way … wait no

  • @Jeremy-ql1or
    @Jeremy-ql1or Před rokem +4

    Lol, I remember telling people about Crush the Castle when Angry Birds was popular. There were so many great Flash games I would love to play. There are a few, like Cactus McCoy and VVVVV, that I was able to download but most of them seem gone forever. It would be great if someone could buy the rights to some of the good ones and sell them as packages on Steam (the ones that are still playable, of course).

  • @galogiha
    @galogiha Před rokem +1

    I preferred the OTHER crush the castle rip-off: "trucks and skulls". It's angry birds, but better.
    they replaced the floor with lava, the pigs with daemon skulls, the birds with rocket powered trucks and made the music awesome.

  • @claratalbot7613
    @claratalbot7613 Před rokem +1

    I miss Crush the Castle & other flash games. Used to play them all the time when I was done with my work in computer class back in Highschool

  • @gldni17
    @gldni17 Před rokem +32

    Resident Evil could be on this list twice, since it also was heavily influenced by Alone in the Dark.

  • @todd3143
    @todd3143 Před rokem +3

    i remember finding that crush the castle game riding the high of medieval themed flash games, then finding angry birds on my ipad sometime later whilst finding for something similar cus i liked the concept so much

  • @ReverendTed
    @ReverendTed Před rokem +1

    13:58 - "Bizarre, given that you don't often associate music with murder," he says, as the Doom theme plays in the background.

  • @theodoreblumkowski9400

    This is the equivalent of opening your fridge drunk and dipping your thumb, pointer, and middle fingers into your roommates leftovers and then telling them you have no idea who crab clawed the leftovers.

    • @MetallicD3ath
      @MetallicD3ath Před rokem

      What kind of Gex the Gecko level of referencing am I missing here?

  • @kip258
    @kip258 Před rokem +5

    Crush the castle was superior to angry birds in every way. Better launching controls, better physics, and even a level editor!

  • @vanntooot
    @vanntooot Před rokem +3

    Correction: Medal of Honor actually started back in the PS1 era. It had clunky controls then but it didn't take itself seriously at all, which for me is its appeal over CoD

    • @KasumiRINA
      @KasumiRINA Před rokem +1

      it literally supports dual analog controls tho. One of very few PS1 games to have modern controls as option (it was exotic at the time).

    • @vanntooot
      @vanntooot Před rokem

      @@KasumiRINA yes, which is why it was so enjoyable. I didn't care that it took me 10 seconds to aim properly, I felt like a badass using both analog sticks

    • @lemagicbaguette1917
      @lemagicbaguette1917 Před 9 měsíci

      “I am a game, not a movie. Have fun dealing with these controls :)”

  • @avengethegame2724
    @avengethegame2724 Před rokem

    5:27 I got an MW2 ad right before this bit 😂

  • @TreetopCanopy
    @TreetopCanopy Před rokem

    The earliest "football but with cars" game is the arcade game Car Polo (1977) by Exidy! Ignore the "polo" in the name; it plays like Rocket League but made in the '70s. Though Wild Wheels does have the ramps

  • @thatcher00
    @thatcher00 Před rokem +3

    Medal of honor was huge though