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Was going nuts, then I killed myself after the penalty
Damn bro your spirit really commented?
Same! I was jumping around yelling for nothing lmao
Your going to let a football game ruin your day smh
Same bro
He was offsides
Nowadays even if you time the jump perfectly they r still going call offsides
He was offsides
@@DrZionth no
@@GeauxTigers7189 yea
@@DrZionth I'm curious, do you think he was lined up offsides? Or moved before the snap?
Depends on the team. Since it was the packers and the play negatively affected them, it was offsides. Really any other team it wasn't.
No matter what you think. If they were offsides or not, they were gonna block that even if they weren't
No
@@DrZionth 0-16
@@DrZionth yes dr zion
No cap
Then they should have been more disciplined and not gone offsides
Green Bay fan here, and yeah, that was just well-timed. Should not have been a flag.
Dude, im not a Greenbay fan, but they were totally offsides.
im a cowboys fan and we should have had a fumble in our game today but they called it "forward progress" which makes it unchallengable. im just wondering why does it have to be a refs call that can only be challenged when its a wrong call to begin with? why cant a coach challenge any play that looks like it wasnt called right in the first place? although i think it should still stay that only 2 plays can be challenged per half
@@xthaking Totally agree. I don’t know why the officials watching the game in the booth can’t call down and immediately reverse an obvious bad call. Seems like this would allow them to get the calls right and speed up the game. Win-win.
Don't think anyone asked if you were a green bay fan or not lmao..just comment no one cares if your bias or not seriously....no one cares
@@detroitlionspistonstigersr6735 but I'm not a greenbay fan, and I dont care that hes biast, so?....
No they just jumped the snap with good timing
No he was offsides
@@DrZionth he wasn’t they moved as soon as the ball was snapped
@@cuxhe7932 no he moved a clique before
Bro as a ref that is a really hard call to make. If you were in that spot you would have made the same call. People hating on refs all the time. It’s not their fault. The NFL should get better technology and equipment in order to get the calls right every time.
@@DrZionth he wasn’t just say you’re a browns fan
Impressive the refs miss blatant calls all week and somehow manage to see this, even if it is offsides it’s within milliseconds of the snap. Like they couldn’t have known for sure they just act impulsively
The hits on Bridgewater and Spencer this week...christ. Also a play where the Raven's guy runs into the endzone, Pat Surtain had the blockers hand in his facemask and nothing. Fucking bullshit. Rigged against Steeler's maybe? Lol
Shits fake
Almost feels like they accidentally got it right😊
-big play happens
-don't get excited
-look for penalty
-there it is
The Steelers moved when the ball moved that was 100% robbery
Moved slightly before
@@DrZionth ofc a browns fan will say that it was straight up robbery bro
No it’s offside if you look at it at .25 the guy at the end goes right before the ball is snapped
They moved just right before like a half second the ref who caught that has good eyes never thought I'd say that.
@@DrZionth wrong
If you watch the replay you can clearly see Joe Haden moved right as the center snapped the ball
I thought you could start moving, just as long as you don't cross the line of the ball...
You can move. It's breaking the line of scrimmage
Slow it down to .25 speed. I hate saying it since I'm a Bears fan, but it was a good call. He had his hands across the line before the snap.
@@randallwilliam5990 Go frame-by-frame instead. Steelers start moving the same frame the ball starts moving back.
@@spaceisgreat691 I did. His hands were over the line before the ball moved.
man the Steelers finally did something and the refs just screw us over
They saw the Steelers at the 50 yard line and said nah that's offsides
No he jumped offsides it was a good call.
@@DrZionth biased brown fan can’t see that it was perfectly timed
@@DrZionth browns fan agrees with call against the steelers
hmmmmmm
seems legit
Browns fan= biased
He was offsides. It was a good call
That was the most perfectly timed movement, I don't see how you can get any more accurate.
Announcers watching the slow-mo seeing that nobody is offsides. " well with players in the backfield that quick it has to be offsides". Im pretty sure that logic was also used for the LATE flag.
Why didn't they show a replay with the camera angle at the line of scrimmage?
It's funny how those angles never get shown when shit like this happens 🤷♂️ 100 cameras out there and nope not a line of scrimmage angle🤦♂️
You know why
Because you can't fix games by doing that. Didn't you learn anything in college? Sheesh! 🤗🏈👍
What's the point of reviewing those calls if they are going to side with the refs no matter what
I see packers are mad about watt tripping Rodgers but then say this is fine. Refs are bad on both ends
@@phasedoz7239 "I see people celebrating a call for their team and getting angry at calls against them". Good job describing any fan for any team.
can't review penalties
They dont review those calls. They probably should
It's propaganda to reinforce the sense that the NFL is faultless. Of course since they always side with the refs it makes it utterly hollow. Mike Pereira is afraid to criticize refs, being a former ref
this season is just full of outrageous calls and its getting ridiculous.
This was a good call XD
@@cricketz2230 it really wasn’t. Much as it would’ve sucked as a Green Bay fan for the call to be overturned, fair’s fair.
We say this every season, nothing changes🤦🏾♂️
C'mon, they weren't even in the neutral zone either Fitz or Haden...and the center is moving the ball the same time they moved. A concern is that kick block seems to be Steelers best unit at the moment.
As a Packers fan, bad call. More and more I'm watching games where theres a game changing call. Flags should really be reviewable or challengeable, I get why the refs called it on the spot but it's still a mistake.
It’s so dumb. Everything should be challengeable period
I don’t necessarily think flags should be challengeable, unless it’s a flag or no flag on a play the resulted in a score.
Damn, the steelers finally make a good play and gets robbed 😭
Offsides
@@DrZionth Jeez you sure convinced me.
@@DrZionth 0-16
@@DrZionth lmao mans really cared to reply to EVERY SINGLE comment supporting the Steelers 😂
@@DrZionth man really has the Steelers living rent free in his head 😂😂
This call turned the tide of the whole game
still lost😆😆
Can't beat Aaron Rodgers AND the refs... 😆
Terrible call
Nope
@@ryanborchardt-koplien6721 yep
how do you know??
Steelers vs Refs
As always
@@FatherOfTrolls I've been watching the Steelers for over a decade. They get a lot of favoritism on calls, Green Bay does too however.
He was offsides
@@DrZionth Clowns fans opinions don’t matter
@@DrZionth no he wasnt 🤡
That ref in NY didn’t want to say it wasn’t offsides on national tv😂 “It was a play of inches” what kind of answer is that. Is he offsides or not. Just yes or no is all you got to say
When you time something soo perfectly it looks like youre offsides
Can’t wait for the xfl
Once The Snappers Hand Starts To Move, It Is A Live Play Meaning The Rusher Is Allowed To Rush. 😡 😡
😂 you must post something about belichecks sons face during last nights game... He had me dying.. with that mullet, the features of belicheck, and the gruden facial expressions.. NFL comedy gold 😂
Hopefully Minkah will get revenge after the half, we really need it rn
The long snapper lifts the ball up for a split second, before he snapped the ball to the holder. The Steelers were not off sides.
Steelers scored right? Should it be a scoring review?
No
If no flag was thrown, yes they would review the score. They review scores to get it right but they can't review a bad call to overturn that. And it was a BAD CALL, no matter what 2% of the troll fans think. It was clearly not offsides. Such is life in the inconsistent NFL.
Gotta be able to challenge calls now fr
Packers fan here, thats super close but after looking at it, its not offsides. During the game, it did look offsides so i can see how the refs fucked this one up.
Tbh you being a Packers fan doesn’t matter here but I agree with you
Thanks man, may the best team win!
@@TallBaboon he has to say that because other people would reply“oh you’re a salty Steelers fan”
@@zilla7355 Ahhhhh I forgot about that my bad
Truly a cheesehead moment
The Steelers should know playing in Green Bay, the Packers will get those calls in their favor.
The NFL has a reputation to protect.
still won
That wasn't even close he clearly timed that perfectly and was not offsides.
Does the play start when the ball moves backwards or that split second were he chokes up on the ball?
@@taylorc2542 not sure what you really mean but once the center is set anything other than snapping the ball would be a false start.
@@jeffreyval9665 He moves the ball forward for split second, or tilts it a little bit. Does any movement start the snap or does it have to be backward.
@@taylorc2542 yeah any movement of the ball is the start of the snap. As soon as the center moves the ball whatever way the play starts.
as far as I know if a player is even lined up in the neutral zone before the snap its still offside why has no one brought that up
I don't know the specifics of the offsides rule, but if you slow it down to 0.25x, the Steelers clearly begin their movement before the ball is beginning to be snapped. I don't know if they cross the line before the snap occurs, or when the snap is considered to have been done. It would have to be down to when the defense is allowed to begin their movement and what offsides actually is when they are on the line.
Even if the call is right, given it's millisecond time frame it should be allowed... Refs are making millisecond calls, but miss some blatant ones and expect to be respected in both cases. And I'm a Packer's fan.
well someone obviously didn't want the Steelers to cover the half time spread 💀😭😂
Offsides
@@DrZionth 32 years of being a trash franchise.
That’s so stupid bro we should’ve had it 😞
this time the refs actually screwed the steelers
This time. There's at least one of these every season. #JessieJamesmadethecatch
Show this to anyone that has the AUDACITY to say that the refs always help us
Even worse than the Khalil Mack roughing the passer call
Did he get one today? You see the Chase Young one?
Man, I was screaming at the TV on that one, it was a ticky-tack call. Mack's hand was just following through on the pass block.
What was the other game this season where a player timed the snap perfectly but the refs called offsides?
It was a regular play not a field goal btw
Rodgers always gets bailed out
Thats one of those play, where you really need a camera looking down the line of scrimmage to be sure one way or the other... but yeah from that pov, definitely not a penalty.
Show us the camera for the line of scrimmage. Y’all fixing the hell out of these games
Refs are killing the game. They have been boning the Vikings for a couple weeks now too.
Refs need to be evaluated and held accountable. Any NFL game anymore has so many shady flags its running football. Last night's game clearly showed the refs were betting on the Pat's winning
Perfect timing?...
"IMPOSSIBLE! 🧐 5 yard penalty."
Immma Steelers fan that’s bs they weren’t offsides it was just perfect timing
Haden is always the scapegoat for questionable calls lol
In the words of the Chiseled Adonis: Good enough for a Steelers - GENJUTSUUU!!!!!
They were both on a running start right before it snapped its close but its the right call.
Was it though?
@@ironparzival8989 Yes also right before he was starting to snap Joe Haden's left leg crossed because he wasn't in snapping motion its offsides
Yet another game where special teams is truly special for the Steelers, they pulled this when they blew that game against the chargers 2 years ago only they did it 3 times
Perfect comparison, since they weren't offsides when when the Chargers failed the first time too, the two after in desperation should have never happened.
Another Packer fan here who agrees, it was a probably a bad call. Minute 1:42 shows #23 lined up what appears to be a little bit ahead of #39. So probably right on the line, and any movement would have appear to cross the line. Quickly starting and stopping to minute 1:43 it appears that the center starts by rocking the ball just a little bit, just as #23 starts to move. The center then appears to move the ball forward a tiny bit and then hike it back. I bet the line judge missed that initial rocking forward of the ball. Honestly, it was so close and happened so fast, that he would not have been able to be sure, so probably relied on past experience (thinking that has to be offsides right?). Really the TE (#85) was SLOW to react and missed both blocks. Also note that neither Steeler on either side of and closest to the ball moves right away. In fact, Steeler's #92, #96, and #97 don't even move until the ball is 1/2 way to the holder. So all that probably made it look like that #23 and #39 jumped early too. Bottom line for me, with the advantage of frame by frame it appears that #23 moved just as the center started moving the ball, and therefore, not offsides. BTW, I thought that Crosby's dramatic kick to win the game against SF the week before could have been blocked. Find a replay and notice that the defender on the outside (same spot as #23 on this one) actually gets his hands in front of the kicker as the ball is kicked, but just misses the ball.
That 10 points difference at the end summed up here within a horrible call
As a packers fan I’ll take it but the refs have been horrible literally every game the packers have played and it’s a league wide problem. From this whiff to the obvious tripping penalty not called by TJ Watt on Aaron Rodgers, to the hit on DaVante Adams last week and all the ticky tack pass interference calls against the 49ers and Green Bay it leaves me scratching my head. This is supposed to be the best of the best when it comes to football and week after week I feel like they got the refs out of a trash can behind 7/11 where they were all found them all huddling in the dumpster with a lighter and spoon being passed around. It’s not only pathetic but the NFL should be embarrassed and that’s the hell of it all,,, THEY DONT GIVE A SHIT THE REFS STINK!
It was to close to call either way so I’d say better to be no call, slowed it down to .25 speed and can’t tell
This needs to be reviewable... its such an easy call to fix with a simple look of a replay. Altering games because of terrible calls like this is getting old.
yea why tf would you use high end cameras with perfect quality, zoom, and slow-mo that cover each angle/inch of the field
Perfect timing bro
Imagine if that costs them the game. Man, terrible call.
Its offsides. Their knees extend before the ball moves.
He was offsides
@@DrZionth typical browns fan
I’m sure it won’t, they’re a terrible team.
More than this would cost them the game. People who always blame one play are stupid.
Interesting that they don't show the angle from the line of scrimmage. How is that angle not available? That's like the most common angle in the game, and I can't recall a time when the LOS wasn't able to be reviewed.
Of course we all know that's because it probably doesn't show them offsides, and the NFL won't/can't admit that they fucked up.
Chiseled Adonis must be devastated with this Genjutsu
Judging by the replay, it look like a judgment call
Offsides is not a judgement call. You're over the line when the ball is snapped or you're not. Soft.
And his judgment was right. Offsides
Some plays being "challengeable" and others aren't is the problem. The Refs are obviously not perfect and the NFL knows this, thus there being a challenge flag. I say let the coaches throw a challenge flag for whatever play they want, have it reviewed and let the outcome be decided by slow-motion, cameras looking from 35 different angles, mutual conversation amongst the refs, and a ref in the booth who has the time and intelligence to actually look at the rule as it written and decide the call. The number of challenges a game shouldn't change, just that you should be able to challenge whatever you want.
This play completely changed the momentum of the game and I, as a diehard Steelers fan is getting a bit tired of getting the crap end of the stick from these refs. #JessieJamesmadethecatch
Too damn close for me to call. I'd say perfect timing by the Steelers.
as soon as the center moves the ball, your live
It's the NFL. The winner is decided before the game starts.
Bro thats not offsides 💀
look at the final score and the game should of went to overtime 24-24
Steelers got fkd over on that. WE ALL SAW IT!!!!!
Calls this year have been worse than the replacement ref years
Unreal. Precision timing gets you a flag.
Play of inches indeed, that's a tough call for either side
lambeau field special, as a lions fan I understand
People don’t understand AS SOON as the ball moves it’s free game watch it in .25 the center moves the ball UP so he can get the snap back as soon as that happens they can do whatever
I’m speechless man.
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That’s bulls hit
Bruh why they jump so early...3 of them😭😂😂😂
They didn’t tho. At least not “so” early.
Imagine commenting that
Not offsides and a 10 point swing. This changed the whole game.
Normal Green Bay biased officiating.
The NFL refused to show the side view down the line of scrimmage to avoid showing how NOT offside that was. If the center raises the ball forward for a long snap, then that's the snap.
I agree that shouldn't have been offsides coming from a Packer fan the one rule in football don't move unless the ball moves
As a Packers fan, that was so bad. Why do the refs always suck at Packers games? Like we either get royally screwed or get all the calls to where the win doesn't even feel satisfying
Offsides
Totally got screwed there. Timed the snap perfect and Minkah was already passed the 40 on the other side when they called it. Green Bay refs gave us sour cheese
actually if you look at it, it looks like TJ watt is more offsides than anyone else. could be the penalty was meant to be on him and not on haden. pause at 0:52 and look where Watt is compared to everyone else lined up on the ball
Another bad call in favor of the Packers. Definitely not the first time.
Is it even worth getting excited about big plays anymore?
i want to cry myself to sleep tonight
Totally do not understand how the heck the Steelers are penalized for jumping when the ball is moving and I do agree with Gene Steratore! Total BS call
The only thing my family and I could think of was that maybe he lined up offsides? And maybe the flag was thrown before the snap. But it definitely doesn't look like an early jump
The real issue here is not only was that *at the very worst* too close to call offsides, but also the flag came in extremely late, meaning the refs only decided to throw the flag after seeing the Steelers get a TD off it. Had it been recovered by the Packers or gotten the Steelers little to no yardage they probably wouldn't have called it.
Another phantom call for the Packers.
really cool camera angle for the return touchdown
I love how Haden doesn't even move the second time they kick
Pissed off
“But this one is a play of inches guys…and this is real real tight”🤣
They started before the snap but didn't cross from my view.
That was not offsides
My heart sank once I saw that?!
They moved on the snap so unless they're saying they lined up offsides I don't get the call.
0:52 put it at 0.25x..........he moved across line just prior to snap. But it is super DUPER debatable.
Back end you can see they didn't budge until the center starts the snap, total BS.
There is a WHAT back at the line of scrimmage?!